but we have a weakness on that right side. I really can't imagine its a fatal weakness, meaning Giants cannot deal with it, but is it worth "waiting and seeing?"...
as Washington state allows recreational pot. I just got back from a holiday at Mt Rainier and the Olympic National parks and one sees the shops along the highway. This is not a minor issue to the young man.
didn't at least trade him, and get something, anything for him.....he is already costing them 6M in dead cap space....
Giants would have been crazy to assume the deal he had......If the hold up was a renegotiated contract with the Giants, why would he come here now? He has the Giants offer for a baseline and will shop himself around.....but an even bigger question is, what were the injuries that he lost playing time from....he is also 29.....
The OP says the trade fell through. Why does everyone assume the Giants offered something and the Ravens turned them down. Maybe the Ravens offered and nobody responded, so they released him.
as Washington state allows recreational pot. I just got back from a holiday at Mt Rainier and the Olympic National parks and one sees the shops along the highway. This is not a minor issue to the young man.
Wrong. Remember the NFL randomly tests for Marijuana and don't you think that he will be on their radar based on his stance?
He can live anywhere he wants in the off-season if he wants like every other player does.
This myth that broncos and Seahawks can smoke weed without facing NFL discipline isnt true.
If we sign him it will be with a contract that doesn't effect us long term. So if he gets hurt we are at the same place we are today & if he doesn't we have a massive upgrade on the OL. There aren't any better options out there.
I agree with this. I don't see the downside if he's signed to a team friendly deal (he would be). He's better than Newhouse and if he gets hurt the Giants are in the same position they're in now.
as Washington state allows recreational pot. I just got back from a holiday at Mt Rainier and the Olympic National parks and one sees the shops along the highway. This is not a minor issue to the young man.
He's better than Newhouse because he's better. That bit of somplistic doggerel might not be so.
David Diehl, Ohara and Suey were not great players, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts and continuity can't be underestimated when you're talking about an offensive line. The more talented guy who is new might not be as effective.
Balt. is a "win now" team with a top QB and Front office. You don't let a rare commodity like a good OLT go for no reason....see Will Beatty.
We can do whatever we want with him if he signs here. If he makes more than Newhouse but isn't healthy or can't beat him out in camp, then he's the backup.
Giants would have been crazy to assume the deal he had......If the hold up was a renegotiated contract with the Giants, why would he come here now? He has the Giants offer for a baseline and will shop himself around.....but an even bigger question is, what were the injuries that he lost playing time from....he is also 29.....
The OP says the trade fell through. Why does everyone assume the Giants offered something and the Ravens turned them down. Maybe the Ravens offered and nobody responded, so they released him.
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Good player? Would this be a clear upgrade?
Over Marshall Newhouse? Yes.
Wrong. Remember the NFL randomly tests for Marijuana and don't you think that he will be on their radar based on his stance?
He can live anywhere he wants in the off-season if he wants like every other player does.
This myth that broncos and Seahawks can smoke weed without facing NFL discipline isnt true.
I agree with this. I don't see the downside if he's signed to a team friendly deal (he would be). He's better than Newhouse and if he gets hurt the Giants are in the same position they're in now.
For comparison Flowers was rated as their 65th OT & Newhouse was their 71st ranked OT.
I wouldn't have gone out of my way to mention PFF but, since you did, the statement re Flowers is not accurate. PFF had him ranked dead last (76th).
"Dud: . . . Ereck Flowers didn’t provide the immediate upgrade the [Giants] had hoped for, and was our lowest-graded tackle on the year."
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if they view him as a backup, the still may badly want him, but if someone offers him a starters job and/or starter money, he'll probably go there.
if they view him as a backup, the still may badly want him, but if someone offers him a starters job and/or starter money, he'll probably go there.
If the Giants sign him he'll make more money than Newhouse. Is that starter money?
Doesn't make sense.
We let Beatty go because he was oft injured and didn't want to move to RT.
We passed or lost out on younger players with out a significant injury history because we didn't want move Flowers to RT.
So to move Flowers to RT now? Hope not.
Derrrrrrrrrrp....
Me fail English? That's unpossible!
At least Monroe actually wants to play football and actually did last year.
The question is would he be a cost-friendly improvement over Newhouse (even if they're not playing the same position, if you're bumping Flowers over).
I suspect the answer is yes.
David Diehl, Ohara and Suey were not great players, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts and continuity can't be underestimated when you're talking about an offensive line. The more talented guy who is new might not be as effective.
Balt. is a "win now" team with a top QB and Front office. You don't let a rare commodity like a good OLT go for no reason....see Will Beatty.
If this OL has a higher ceiling with Monroe at LT and Flowers sliding over to RT and the price for Monroe winds up being reasonable, you do it.
If this OL has a higher ceiling with Monroe at LT and Flowers sliding over to RT and the price for Monroe winds up being reasonable, you do it.
Ok John Schmeelk