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Are the Giants "suddenly very deep at the WR position" ?

gidiefor : Mod : 6/20/2016 11:22 am
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Sterling Sheppard - The Giants' second round-pick this spring, who could end up being the steal of the draft, according to many. Shepard came right out of the box as advertised, catching "everything in sight" and looking very much like a veteran. The Giants are probably going to rely on Shepard to line up as the No. 2 wideout when the season begins. With Victor Cruz still in comeback mode, the Giants will not have much to worry about with Shepard as their No. 2 behind Odell Beckham, Jr.

WR Geremy Davis -Davis was lightly-used as a rookie last season and that dropped him from the forefront of everyone's minds this spring. Until he hit the field, that is. Davis showed good hands and a firm grip on the offense, making plays and looking quite impressive in the process. He has gained the confidence of head coach Ben McAdoo, OC Mike Sullivan, and QB Eli Manning.

The Giants are suddenly very deep at the WR position.


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"Very deep"  
OC2.0 : 6/20/2016 7:00 pm : link
Is overstating things, imo. Are things looking up? I'd say most definitely, tbd.
An aside from the WR's is I'm looking for, potentially, big things out of Will Tye.
I go along with Coach Mason...  
Bluesbreaker : 6/20/2016 8:10 pm : link
Cruz is the Key to tilting the scales if he is Close to what he was were looking Very Good .
I think Sheppard will be a nightmare with Cruz Beckham and
the Like's of Davis Powe Lewis White and even King turned
a few Heads .The Potential is there ..
Add to that the TE's and RB's will draw more attention as well .
I am cautiously optimistic  
Rick5 : 6/20/2016 9:03 pm : link
about Shepard, less so about Cruz. We'll see when they play the games. Saying they are "suddenly very deep" doesn't sound like a statement that is at all warranted right now.
If OBJ stays healthy, and SS learns fast,  
CT Charlie : 6/20/2016 11:28 pm : link
we have a good receiving corps but not a deep one - and definitely not a "very deep" one. There's no way that Cruz or anyone else will be better than average NFL-startier level, but if healthy it'll be a solid upgrade over what we had last season.
RE: If OBJ stays healthy, and SS learns fast,  
BlueLou : 6/21/2016 5:28 am : link
In comment 13001870 CT Charlie said:
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we have a good receiving corps but not a deep one - and definitely not a "very deep" one. There's no way that Cruz or anyone else will be better than average NFL-startier level, but if healthy it'll be a solid upgrade over what we had last season.


Every indication is that Shepard is learning fast and "not making the same mistakes twice."

The keys to being "very deep" are the play of Davis and White, or Lewis learning the system unusually quickly for a rookie. All 3 points are serious question marks. Eli and Beckham pushing Lewis are mild indicators, as is Davis being named a "breakout" Spring player on Giants.com.
RE: Honestly?  
Klaatu : 6/21/2016 6:01 am : link
In comment 13000810 Bill L said:
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I still haven't backed off much from my opinion that it's still our biggest weakness. I still think Shepard is only a slot and I still think it's as likely that Cruz will be an injury settlement as a contributor. The rest of those guys? Everyone looks good in the spring.


Why is Shepard only a slot WR? Because he's 5-10? Would you say the same thing about Steve Smith (Ravens) or Antonio Brown?
RE: Rather Than Just Focusing On The WR Position  
Klaatu : 6/21/2016 6:08 am : link
In comment 13000857 Trainmaster said:
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I'd rather look at overall targets for Eli, including TE and RB. IF (always huge on this team) the Giant can stay reasonably healthy, Beckham, Shepard, Tye/Donnell and Vereen/Perkins should give Eli excellent targets without relying on Cruz. Cruz is "gravy/bonus" material IMHO.


Excellent point about the TEs and RBs. I'm looking forward to a fierce battle at both positions this summer, but especially at TE, with Adams, LaCosse, and Malleck fighting for spots.
The Giants  
George : 6/21/2016 6:29 am : link
aren't deep at any position. Haven't been for years. That's why every injury we sustain cuts so badly: we just don't have much of a bench - or, at some positions (LB and OL and FS), much by the way of starters.
Anyway...  
Klaatu : 6/21/2016 6:54 am : link
I think that before you make the claim that the Giants are "very deep" at the WR position, you have to declare just what "very deep" means. Six or seven starting-caliber WRs? That's a lot to ask of any team. Most have a couple of bona fide starters - maybe three - with the rest being role players with varying degrees of competence. In that regard, I'd say the Giants are in decent shape at WR, if not necessarily "very deep."

Odell Beckman, Jr. is an elite WR. Sterling Shepard has the potential to reach that level. If Shepard lives up to his billing, they'll become as formidable a duo as you'll find anywhere else in the league. Of course that still remains to be seen, but the early reviews have been overwhelmingly positive.

Victor Cruz is, of course, a wild card at this point in time. No one knows what to expect from Cruz in 2016. He could flame out very quickly, he could avoid further injury but still never be the same dynamic talent he was in the past, or he could shock the world and become his old salsa-dancing self once again. Only time will tell.

The rest of the WRs who make the final 53 don't necessarily have to "shock the world" to have a positive impact. They just have to make the most of whatever opportunities that come their way. Above all, they have to play smart, avoid mistakes, and gain Eli's trust, especially in critical situations. They can't choke when the money's on the line.

Excluding Beckham, Shepard, Cruz, and Dwayne Harris, there are nine other WRs currently on the roster who will be fighting for two or three spots this summer. I expect that competition will be fierce (as I do for other positions) and, as I and others say over and over again, hopefully the cream will rise to the top.
I prefer to believe  
joeinpa : 6/21/2016 7:55 am : link
Shepherd is not a question mark, qnd that Cruz s injuries are be behind him. Young people do heal from some tough injuries without complication quite often and there is no reason he can t play at a high level again.
I also don t see why a guy like Davis, a draft pick, can t blossom in his second season It s about time this happens again on the Giants.

It's ok to be optimistic. It s not like this franchise doesn t know how to win.

The OP S premise is as valid thoughts presented on BBI
Everyone who was here last year besides ODB  
UberAlias : 6/21/2016 9:04 am : link
Has a lot to prove. The only one who did anything at all, and I stress ANYTHING, is Harris, but I think it's safe to assume we know what he is. If Cruz is healthy and resembles his former self, I would give you they have some depth, but would not go as far as to say very deep. That would be assuming someone like Davis is a guy you can count on, and I'm not prepared to make that leap yet.
WR 2016 NY Giants  
ROBUSTELLI81 : 6/21/2016 10:30 am : link
Whenever have the Giants been this deep at WR? Beckham is the superstar they have never really had, not this dominating/game changer, no matter who or what generation. The Big If? Cruz, if he's back it's a Football Gods gift, but if he' s not there is the Okie Rookie, Sterling strength indeed, seriously gifted WR. Harris in the slot last year was electric, but it's his return game & specials play that really contribute more to the team, good to have him in "reserve", sob to speak. Geremy Davis seems to be stepping up, a big possession WR as go to for Eli on scrambles or the last read on the route tree. UDFA Roger Lewis playing like a keeper, and may the mojo be working for the French rookie Dable, he's a big lad for WR, if he flashes maybe at least the "Taxi Squad."

Best: Beckham / Cruz / Shepard / Davis
Best B: Beckham / Shepard / Lewis / Davis

Best: Beckham, Cruz, Shepard
You want to know what a deep WR group looks like?  
Milton : 6/21/2016 9:05 pm : link
Last year's Packers going into training camp....
Two proven Pro Bowl WR's in Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb and two young early draft picks in Davante Adams (2014 Rnd 2) and Ty Montgomery (2015 Rnd 3). And as deep as they were, by the end of camp they were desperate to add James Jones.
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