and my old addled mind isn't helping me pick. If I had to choose, it would probably be the Giants vs. Washington game that was played the same night the Mets were playing in the World Series. So weird to have cheers at odd times during the game. Most everyone in the crowd was also following the World Series. Oh, yeah, the Giants won and Joe Morris ran all over the skins. A very good night.
...because nothing from the regular season tops that first Super Bowl win or the 2 NFC Playoff wins.
My favorite was the Monday Night win against the Niners. A huge win and a tremendous comeback - really, after that first half in San Francisco, the Giants never looked back, picking up steam as they rolled through their last month.
Down 17-0 in that game until THIS changed the momentum:
most vividly is the Conference Championship game. The winds. And that defense. Jesus. Even Madden was ready to proclaim them the greatest after that...
The 39-20 win over the Broncos, and its not close, it made everything else relevant, without that win then what would be the big deal about any of it. It also gave us our first super bowl, I couldn't imagine the Giants losing that game I admit, but then again it was the Giants we were talking about, they had not been a winner in such a long time. So it was pure joy to finally win it all.
The three YA Title seasons were just so frustrating for a young kid who didn't see them win it in 1956, I was too young then. Once they won that game, then you look back and see the comeback in Frisco, the dismantling of the Redskins in Washington, the 4th and 17 game against the Vikings and then they become classic memories, also we can't forget one of the greatest plays in Giants history, the 90 yard interception return by George Martin in the home win against the broncos that very season.
I can't pick just one, so I'll pick two that immediately jumped to mind when I read the thread title.
The San Francisco game where the Giants went down 17 - 0, then clawed back into the game with Bavaro's amazing catch and run carrying almost the entire 49ers' defense on his back. The best part of it was that I was watching this game in my dorm suite at college. An asshole on my floor talked smack about the Giants losing and not having a chance to come back against San Fran. I made him eat a lot of crow when the Giants won the game.
The other was the very last game of the season against Green Bay. It was a total blow out. We dominated the Packers all day, but the team relaxed a bit knowing they were in the playoffs and were beating the Packers so soundly that the Packers scored a couple of quick touchdowns making it a game. Parcells lit into his team during halftime for letting up. At the beginning of the 2nd half, the G-Men just tore apart the Packers for a final score of 55 to 24. My favorite memory of that game was the blocked punt and return for a touchdown by the backup safety Flynn - can't remember his first name. There was a replay filming of the huge smile on his face when he blocked the punt and reached behind himself to catch the ball and then run probably 30 or 40 yards for the TD. I can still see his huge smile in my head. It was glorious.
Why? Before that game I think we all thought the Giants would win the super bowl. After that game we knew. Or at least I did. The image of LT bending around the edge all fucking day...
Monday night in SF. Down 17-0, asshole niner fans all giddy
and the Giants come back in the 2nd half and kick the snot out of them, with Bavaro punctuating their physical dominance.
And they had to score 1 TD TWICE because the refs fucked Stacy Robinson out of a TD
The SB against Denver was great obviously, but I really felt like that was a fait accompli going in after the way they completely dismantled the Niners and Redskins in the playoffs. I had no doubt that they would win.
"we knew we were going to win the Super Bowl" crew coming from? The team never won anything and the momentum didn't really start rolling until late. Meanwhile, a 14-2 Bears team had given up far less points than the Giants had.
"we knew we were going to win the Super Bowl" crew coming from? The team never won anything and the momentum didn't really start rolling until late. Meanwhile, a 14-2 Bears team had given up far less points than the Giants had.
Yeah - we didn't know jack - no way we were going to beat the freakin' 49'ers... then, no way we were going to beat that Washington team 3 times in the same year?!
Really - after the Washington game, I knew they would roll Denver.
"we knew we were going to win the Super Bowl" crew coming from? The team never won anything and the momentum didn't really start rolling until late. Meanwhile, a 14-2 Bears team had given up far less points than the Giants had.
I am right here. If you were around Rutherford in early December of 86 you would have heard me saying the Giants will win it all and it won't even be close. I was convinced once they beat the Skins in round 2.
And please stop with the Bears nonsense. Go read the archives as this nonsense about the Bears has been obliterated time and time again. That bears team was nowhere near the 85 unit. The Giants would have destroyed them. Their offense sucked. Not hyperbole. It totally fucking sucked. They literally had the easiest schedule of all time. Look it up. Bears couldn't beat the Skins and the Giants killed the Skins 3 times. What does that tell you.
The 85 Bears were probably the best or second best team I ever saw. But the Bears team of that entire era was overrated. They didn't have much staying power at all. And every time some idiot brings up the 87 home opener let us not forget the 90 playoff game.
so while I had to endure some losing and pain I didn't go through the 70s like the older fans had. I had already witnessed 3 playoff seasons prior to 86. I wasn't jaded at all and back then when a team got rolling and was universally considered the best team going, they pretty much always won the super bowl. I had no doubts. I was nearly convinced after 4th and 17.
And every time some idiot brings up the 87 home opener let us not forget the 90 playoff game.
That's just dumb as the rosters turned over so much it wasn't even the same teams. Everybody worth their salt knew the Giants offense didn't match up well with the Bears defense. It was the mobile Jay Schroder who won that playoff game. Who knows what would have happened if the Giants and Bears met and only a select few fanatics turned a blind eye to the 14-2 Bears who, oh by the way were the defending champs, gave up only 187 points and did win 14 games. It's ridiculous to just think that was layup considering the Giants offense got the shiat knocked out of them in 85 and 87.
So many those from that year...George Martin int vs Elway and LT tackling the poor old man in end zone after several times trying to get LT to take it in for him...2nd game of season vs SD really fought through that game. Wash game at RFK..
And every time some idiot brings up the 87 home opener let us not forget the 90 playoff game.
That's just dumb as the rosters turned over so much it wasn't even the same teams. Everybody worth their salt knew the Giants offense didn't match up well with the Bears defense. It was the mobile Jay Schroder who won that playoff game. Who knows what would have happened if the Giants and Bears met and only a select few fanatics turned a blind eye to the 14-2 Bears who, oh by the way were the defending champs, gave up only 187 points and did win 14 games. It's ridiculous to just think that was layup considering the Giants offense got the shiat knocked out of them in 85 and 87.
So it's fair to attribute 85 greatness to the 86 Bears even though you don't really know the fine details of that team but it's dumb for me to point out the FACTS that the Bears of that era didn't win jack shit after 1985. Matter of fact did they even win another playoff game after 1985? lol...the 86 Giants would have taken that historically overrated 86 Bears team out to the woodshed. Yes the 86 Bears D could hang with anyone, the Giants would have scored enough. They scored on anyone that second half of the year lest we forget.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
what happened in 1985 means absolutely nothing. NOTHING. The 86 Giants were light years better than the 85 team and the 86 Bears were a lot worse than the 85 team.
Stop. It's a disgrace to give that 86 Bears team any shot at all at beating a good football team let along a historically great team. And the 86 Giants were in fact historically great. Of course anything can happen. But talking in the logical sense this scary scenario of yours was a bigger long shot than you make it out to me. It wasn't happening. The Giants would have embarrassed the Bears offense.
because every time someone brings up 1986 someone has to bring up the big bad bears of that season. It's a disservice, no, it's a disgrace to that 86 Giants team to even bring up the remote possibility that they could beaten down the stretch that season. That to me tells me some didn't appreciate how good that team really was. Not just great...historically great.
You wanna bring up the 2011 Saints as a legit threat to the 2011 Giants? Fine...that's fair and even that to me is overstated but yes the Giants may have faced a tougher haul if they travel to New Orleans, although much like the 86 Skins I think people underrate how good that 2011 Niner team was and how impressive the Giants were in beating them.
I feel it's my duty and calling in life to squash any of this crap talk about the 86 Bears and squash it fast and swiftly. I won't let it even fester!
The '86 season and '87 Super Bowl was the best Giant team I've seen (I go back to '68 or so).
As for the best win that season. There's just nothing that will ever be better for me than winning on the road in Washington. And that win that year was simply great. Actually, great times 10. Can't think of a word would describe it better.
So it's fair to attribute 85 greatness to the 86 Bears even though you don't really know the fine details of that team but it's dumb for me to point out the FACTS that the Bears of that era didn't win jack shit after 1985. Matter of fact did they even win another playoff game after 1985? lol...the 86 Giants would have taken that historically overrated 86 Bears team out to the woodshed. Yes the 86 Bears D could hang with anyone, the Giants would have scored enough. They scored on anyone that second half of the year lest we forget.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
It was Jim McMahon without having to research but thanks for the layup question. So you knew the Giant, who stumbled through most of 1986, would win the Super Bowl. I can only imagine how many other years you knew the Giants would win the Super Bowl too.
Bash the Bears all you want and be VERY selective with FACTS by pointing out the Bears didn't win the Super Bowl again while it was our Giants who didn't even win another playoff game until 1990. All we can look too was 85 and 87. Games could have gone either way and neither were a given despite you claims. Oh by the way, with Simms in 1990 the Giants didn't match up well with 49ers for the same reasons they didn't match up well with the better Bear teams.
uh, the '86 Bears lost AT HOME to the Redskins in the playoffs
You wanna bring up the 2011 Saints as a legit threat to the 2011 Giants? Fine...that's fair and even that to me is overstated but yes the Giants may have faced a tougher haul if they travel to New Orleans, although much like the 86 Skins I think people underrate how good that 2011 Niner team was and how impressive the Giants were in beating them.
Thanks for making my point for me. Much like the Saints weren't a good matchup for the Giants in 2011 the Redskins weren't a good matchup for the Bears in 86.
RE: uh, the '86 Bears lost AT HOME to the Redskins in the playoffs
not only lost, but were embarrassed 27-13. Skins had the ball for 33:44, ran for 134 yards.
Bears QB: Doug Flutie. 11 for 31 134 long 11
Bears turned it over 4 times. Washington Redskins 27 at Chicago Bears 13 Saturday, January 3, 1987 - ( New Window )
ok, so despite our Giants being embarrassed in both 85 and 97 to that Bears team they would have destroyed the Bears in 1986. Ok, but I'm quite certain the vast majority of Giants fans did not "KNOW" the Giants were going to win in 1986 being, despite the growing momentum, had a history of screwing up and had their share of miserable performances in 1986 despite winning.
So it's fair to attribute 85 greatness to the 86 Bears even though you don't really know the fine details of that team but it's dumb for me to point out the FACTS that the Bears of that era didn't win jack shit after 1985. Matter of fact did they even win another playoff game after 1985? lol...the 86 Giants would have taken that historically overrated 86 Bears team out to the woodshed. Yes the 86 Bears D could hang with anyone, the Giants would have scored enough. They scored on anyone that second half of the year lest we forget.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
It was Jim McMahon without having to research but thanks for the layup question. So you knew the Giant, who stumbled through most of 1986, would win the Super Bowl. I can only imagine how many other years you knew the Giants would win the Super Bowl too.
Bash the Bears all you want and be VERY selective with FACTS by pointing out the Bears didn't win the Super Bowl again while it was our Giants who didn't even win another playoff game until 1990. All we can look too was 85 and 87. Games could have gone either way and neither were a given despite you claims. Oh by the way, with Simms in 1990 the Giants didn't match up well with 49ers for the same reasons they didn't match up well with the better Bear teams.
Apology accepted.
RE: RE: and you know why I fight this good fight ?
You wanna bring up the 2011 Saints as a legit threat to the 2011 Giants? Fine...that's fair and even that to me is overstated but yes the Giants may have faced a tougher haul if they travel to New Orleans, although much like the 86 Skins I think people underrate how good that 2011 Niner team was and how impressive the Giants were in beating them.
Thanks for making my point for me. Much like the Saints weren't a good matchup for the Giants in 2011 the Redskins weren't a good matchup for the Bears in 86.
Well...no you're wrong. Again.
RE: RE: uh, the '86 Bears lost AT HOME to the Redskins in the playoffs
not only lost, but were embarrassed 27-13. Skins had the ball for 33:44, ran for 134 yards.
Bears QB: Doug Flutie. 11 for 31 134 long 11
Bears turned it over 4 times. Washington Redskins 27 at Chicago Bears 13 Saturday, January 3, 1987 - ( New Window )
ok, so despite our Giants being embarrassed in both 85 and 97 to that Bears team they would have destroyed the Bears in 1986. Ok, but I'm quite certain the vast majority of Giants fans did not "KNOW" the Giants were going to win in 1986 being, despite the growing momentum, had a history of screwing up and had their share of miserable performances in 1986 despite winning.
How old are you? Were you watching football back then? I'm not trying to be a wise ass there's nothing wrong with being a younger fan but honestly it sounds like you weren't really watching football that season. If you were I stand corrected.
that's when I really started to believe we were going to win the SB. We were winning, we had the talent, it was a 'magic' play. Now I knew We had everything.
So it's fair to attribute 85 greatness to the 86 Bears even though you don't really know the fine details of that team but it's dumb for me to point out the FACTS that the Bears of that era didn't win jack shit after 1985. Matter of fact did they even win another playoff game after 1985? lol...the 86 Giants would have taken that historically overrated 86 Bears team out to the woodshed. Yes the 86 Bears D could hang with anyone, the Giants would have scored enough. They scored on anyone that second half of the year lest we forget.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
It was Jim McMahon without having to research but thanks for the layup question. So you knew the Giant, who stumbled through most of 1986, would win the Super Bowl. I can only imagine how many other years you knew the Giants would win the Super Bowl too.
Bash the Bears all you want and be VERY selective with FACTS by pointing out the Bears didn't win the Super Bowl again while it was our Giants who didn't even win another playoff game until 1990. All we can look too was 85 and 87. Games could have gone either way and neither were a given despite you claims. Oh by the way, with Simms in 1990 the Giants didn't match up well with 49ers for the same reasons they didn't match up well with the better Bear teams.
WRONG, the QB was Doug Flutie. McMahon only played 6 games that year due to injury.
...because nothing from the regular season tops that first Super Bowl win or the 2 NFC Playoff wins.
My favorite was the Monday Night win against the Niners. A huge win and a tremendous comeback - really, after that first half in San Francisco, the Giants never looked back, picking up steam as they rolled through their last month.
Down 17-0 in that game until THIS changed the momentum:
HOW GIANTS MIRED, THEN BURIED, 49ERS - ( New Window )
Another vote for Monday night in SF for me. Although Minn 4th and 17 is a close second.
but it's just flat out unfair to bring up other seasons and then dismiss what the Giants and Bears both did beyond 86. You attribute far too much to the 1987 regular season opener that saw a hungover sleep walking Giants team stumble against the home Bears. We aren't talking about the 87 season. We are talking about the 86 season. And if you were truly paying attention that season you'd know that the 86 Bears weren't any good while the 86 Giants, down the stretch, were completely dominant.
And to steal an arrogant pompous tone from Mike Francessa --I was at the week 16 finale against the PAckers when nearly every giants fan in the house was screaming we want the Bears. The fans weren't worried at all.
WRONG, the QB was Doug Flutie. McMahon only played 6 games that year due to injury.
Stumbled? I'll stumble to 14-2 any day
I read 85 so my bad. I knew who at QB in 86.
Every Giants fan knows that team had issues in 86 and even Simms was quoted as saying "it was rough". The media was all over him, the offense struggled and that team had issues in multiple games. It's funny how some forget about 1986 and are so quickly to praise 14-2 yet somehow dismiss the 14-2 Bears.
I was at the week 16 finale against the PAckers when nearly every giants fan in the house was screaming we want the Bears. The fans weren't worried at all.
We all wanted the Bears for payback. The Giants already beat the Skins twice, beat the 49ers twice, finally beat Dallas. Besides winning the bowl, all that was left was to avenge the 85 Bears.
Giants vs Bears in the mid 80's. Those games were won on turnovers and mistakes.
My favorite was the Monday Night win against the Niners. A huge win and a tremendous comeback - really, after that first half in San Francisco, the Giants never looked back, picking up steam as they rolled through their last month.
Down 17-0 in that game until THIS changed the momentum:
HOW GIANTS MIRED, THEN BURIED, 49ERS - ( New Window )
Ditto.
And that 4 game stretch where they really started rolling - Minnesota, Denver, San Fran and then the game I noted versus Skins.
You knew we were going to win Superbowl.
The three YA Title seasons were just so frustrating for a young kid who didn't see them win it in 1956, I was too young then. Once they won that game, then you look back and see the comeback in Frisco, the dismantling of the Redskins in Washington, the 4th and 17 game against the Vikings and then they become classic memories, also we can't forget one of the greatest plays in Giants history, the 90 yard interception return by George Martin in the home win against the broncos that very season.
The San Francisco game where the Giants went down 17 - 0, then clawed back into the game with Bavaro's amazing catch and run carrying almost the entire 49ers' defense on his back. The best part of it was that I was watching this game in my dorm suite at college. An asshole on my floor talked smack about the Giants losing and not having a chance to come back against San Fran. I made him eat a lot of crow when the Giants won the game.
The other was the very last game of the season against Green Bay. It was a total blow out. We dominated the Packers all day, but the team relaxed a bit knowing they were in the playoffs and were beating the Packers so soundly that the Packers scored a couple of quick touchdowns making it a game. Parcells lit into his team during halftime for letting up. At the beginning of the 2nd half, the G-Men just tore apart the Packers for a final score of 55 to 24. My favorite memory of that game was the blocked punt and return for a touchdown by the backup safety Flynn - can't remember his first name. There was a replay filming of the huge smile on his face when he blocked the punt and reached behind himself to catch the ball and then run probably 30 or 40 yards for the TD. I can still see his huge smile in my head. It was glorious.
And they had to score 1 TD TWICE because the refs fucked Stacy Robinson out of a TD
The SB against Denver was great obviously, but I really felt like that was a fait accompli going in after the way they completely dismantled the Niners and Redskins in the playoffs. I had no doubt that they would win.
Remember the days when only ONE player on the entire team would be lost for the season to injury?
Really - after the Washington game, I knew they would roll Denver.
I am right here. If you were around Rutherford in early December of 86 you would have heard me saying the Giants will win it all and it won't even be close. I was convinced once they beat the Skins in round 2.
And please stop with the Bears nonsense. Go read the archives as this nonsense about the Bears has been obliterated time and time again. That bears team was nowhere near the 85 unit. The Giants would have destroyed them. Their offense sucked. Not hyperbole. It totally fucking sucked. They literally had the easiest schedule of all time. Look it up. Bears couldn't beat the Skins and the Giants killed the Skins 3 times. What does that tell you.
The 85 Bears were probably the best or second best team I ever saw. But the Bears team of that entire era was overrated. They didn't have much staying power at all. And every time some idiot brings up the 87 home opener let us not forget the 90 playoff game.
That's just dumb as the rosters turned over so much it wasn't even the same teams. Everybody worth their salt knew the Giants offense didn't match up well with the Bears defense. It was the mobile Jay Schroder who won that playoff game. Who knows what would have happened if the Giants and Bears met and only a select few fanatics turned a blind eye to the 14-2 Bears who, oh by the way were the defending champs, gave up only 187 points and did win 14 games. It's ridiculous to just think that was layup considering the Giants offense got the shiat knocked out of them in 85 and 87.
So many those from that year...George Martin int vs Elway and LT tackling the poor old man in end zone after several times trying to get LT to take it in for him...2nd game of season vs SD really fought through that game. Wash game at RFK..
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And every time some idiot brings up the 87 home opener let us not forget the 90 playoff game.
That's just dumb as the rosters turned over so much it wasn't even the same teams. Everybody worth their salt knew the Giants offense didn't match up well with the Bears defense. It was the mobile Jay Schroder who won that playoff game. Who knows what would have happened if the Giants and Bears met and only a select few fanatics turned a blind eye to the 14-2 Bears who, oh by the way were the defending champs, gave up only 187 points and did win 14 games. It's ridiculous to just think that was layup considering the Giants offense got the shiat knocked out of them in 85 and 87.
So it's fair to attribute 85 greatness to the 86 Bears even though you don't really know the fine details of that team but it's dumb for me to point out the FACTS that the Bears of that era didn't win jack shit after 1985. Matter of fact did they even win another playoff game after 1985? lol...the 86 Giants would have taken that historically overrated 86 Bears team out to the woodshed. Yes the 86 Bears D could hang with anyone, the Giants would have scored enough. They scored on anyone that second half of the year lest we forget.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
Stop. It's a disgrace to give that 86 Bears team any shot at all at beating a good football team let along a historically great team. And the 86 Giants were in fact historically great. Of course anything can happen. But talking in the logical sense this scary scenario of yours was a bigger long shot than you make it out to me. It wasn't happening. The Giants would have embarrassed the Bears offense.
You wanna bring up the 2011 Saints as a legit threat to the 2011 Giants? Fine...that's fair and even that to me is overstated but yes the Giants may have faced a tougher haul if they travel to New Orleans, although much like the 86 Skins I think people underrate how good that 2011 Niner team was and how impressive the Giants were in beating them.
I feel it's my duty and calling in life to squash any of this crap talk about the 86 Bears and squash it fast and swiftly. I won't let it even fester!
Should I go on? Or is this dumb.
As for the best win that season. There's just nothing that will ever be better for me than winning on the road in Washington. And that win that year was simply great. Actually, great times 10. Can't think of a word would describe it better.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
It was Jim McMahon without having to research but thanks for the layup question. So you knew the Giant, who stumbled through most of 1986, would win the Super Bowl. I can only imagine how many other years you knew the Giants would win the Super Bowl too.
Bash the Bears all you want and be VERY selective with FACTS by pointing out the Bears didn't win the Super Bowl again while it was our Giants who didn't even win another playoff game until 1990. All we can look too was 85 and 87. Games could have gone either way and neither were a given despite you claims. Oh by the way, with Simms in 1990 the Giants didn't match up well with 49ers for the same reasons they didn't match up well with the better Bear teams.
Bears QB: Doug Flutie. 11 for 31 134 long 11
Bears turned it over 4 times.
Washington Redskins 27 at Chicago Bears 13 Saturday, January 3, 1987 - ( New Window )
I knew they were going all the way after that one.
30 years ago. Damn. I owe the fact that I have two great sons to that team.
4th and 17 - ( New Window )
You wanna bring up the 2011 Saints as a legit threat to the 2011 Giants? Fine...that's fair and even that to me is overstated but yes the Giants may have faced a tougher haul if they travel to New Orleans, although much like the 86 Skins I think people underrate how good that 2011 Niner team was and how impressive the Giants were in beating them.
Thanks for making my point for me. Much like the Saints weren't a good matchup for the Giants in 2011 the Redskins weren't a good matchup for the Bears in 86.
Bears QB: Doug Flutie. 11 for 31 134 long 11
Bears turned it over 4 times. Washington Redskins 27 at Chicago Bears 13 Saturday, January 3, 1987 - ( New Window )
ok, so despite our Giants being embarrassed in both 85 and 97 to that Bears team they would have destroyed the Bears in 1986. Ok, but I'm quite certain the vast majority of Giants fans did not "KNOW" the Giants were going to win in 1986 being, despite the growing momentum, had a history of screwing up and had their share of miserable performances in 1986 despite winning.
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So it's fair to attribute 85 greatness to the 86 Bears even though you don't really know the fine details of that team but it's dumb for me to point out the FACTS that the Bears of that era didn't win jack shit after 1985. Matter of fact did they even win another playoff game after 1985? lol...the 86 Giants would have taken that historically overrated 86 Bears team out to the woodshed. Yes the 86 Bears D could hang with anyone, the Giants would have scored enough. They scored on anyone that second half of the year lest we forget.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
It was Jim McMahon without having to research but thanks for the layup question. So you knew the Giant, who stumbled through most of 1986, would win the Super Bowl. I can only imagine how many other years you knew the Giants would win the Super Bowl too.
Bash the Bears all you want and be VERY selective with FACTS by pointing out the Bears didn't win the Super Bowl again while it was our Giants who didn't even win another playoff game until 1990. All we can look too was 85 and 87. Games could have gone either way and neither were a given despite you claims. Oh by the way, with Simms in 1990 the Giants didn't match up well with 49ers for the same reasons they didn't match up well with the better Bear teams.
Apology accepted.
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You wanna bring up the 2011 Saints as a legit threat to the 2011 Giants? Fine...that's fair and even that to me is overstated but yes the Giants may have faced a tougher haul if they travel to New Orleans, although much like the 86 Skins I think people underrate how good that 2011 Niner team was and how impressive the Giants were in beating them.
Thanks for making my point for me. Much like the Saints weren't a good matchup for the Giants in 2011 the Redskins weren't a good matchup for the Bears in 86.
Well...no you're wrong. Again.
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not only lost, but were embarrassed 27-13. Skins had the ball for 33:44, ran for 134 yards.
Bears QB: Doug Flutie. 11 for 31 134 long 11
Bears turned it over 4 times. Washington Redskins 27 at Chicago Bears 13 Saturday, January 3, 1987 - ( New Window )
ok, so despite our Giants being embarrassed in both 85 and 97 to that Bears team they would have destroyed the Bears in 1986. Ok, but I'm quite certain the vast majority of Giants fans did not "KNOW" the Giants were going to win in 1986 being, despite the growing momentum, had a history of screwing up and had their share of miserable performances in 1986 despite winning.
How old are you? Were you watching football back then? I'm not trying to be a wise ass there's nothing wrong with being a younger fan but honestly it sounds like you weren't really watching football that season. If you were I stand corrected.
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So it's fair to attribute 85 greatness to the 86 Bears even though you don't really know the fine details of that team but it's dumb for me to point out the FACTS that the Bears of that era didn't win jack shit after 1985. Matter of fact did they even win another playoff game after 1985? lol...the 86 Giants would have taken that historically overrated 86 Bears team out to the woodshed. Yes the 86 Bears D could hang with anyone, the Giants would have scored enough. They scored on anyone that second half of the year lest we forget.
Do some research on the 86 Bears and get back to me. Who played QB for that Bears team? Do you even know?
It was Jim McMahon without having to research but thanks for the layup question. So you knew the Giant, who stumbled through most of 1986, would win the Super Bowl. I can only imagine how many other years you knew the Giants would win the Super Bowl too.
Bash the Bears all you want and be VERY selective with FACTS by pointing out the Bears didn't win the Super Bowl again while it was our Giants who didn't even win another playoff game until 1990. All we can look too was 85 and 87. Games could have gone either way and neither were a given despite you claims. Oh by the way, with Simms in 1990 the Giants didn't match up well with 49ers for the same reasons they didn't match up well with the better Bear teams.
WRONG, the QB was Doug Flutie. McMahon only played 6 games that year due to injury.
Stumbled? I'll stumble to 14-2 any day
My favorite was the Monday Night win against the Niners. A huge win and a tremendous comeback - really, after that first half in San Francisco, the Giants never looked back, picking up steam as they rolled through their last month.
Down 17-0 in that game until THIS changed the momentum:
HOW GIANTS MIRED, THEN BURIED, 49ERS - ( New Window )
Another vote for Monday night in SF for me. Although Minn 4th and 17 is a close second.
And to steal an arrogant pompous tone from Mike Francessa --I was at the week 16 finale against the PAckers when nearly every giants fan in the house was screaming we want the Bears. The fans weren't worried at all.
WRONG, the QB was Doug Flutie. McMahon only played 6 games that year due to injury.
Stumbled? I'll stumble to 14-2 any day
I read 85 so my bad. I knew who at QB in 86.
Every Giants fan knows that team had issues in 86 and even Simms was quoted as saying "it was rough". The media was all over him, the offense struggled and that team had issues in multiple games. It's funny how some forget about 1986 and are so quickly to praise 14-2 yet somehow dismiss the 14-2 Bears.
We all wanted the Bears for payback. The Giants already beat the Skins twice, beat the 49ers twice, finally beat Dallas. Besides winning the bowl, all that was left was to avenge the 85 Bears.
Giants vs Bears in the mid 80's. Those games were won on turnovers and mistakes.