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Does Darkwa Have A Chance Of Making The Final Roster?

gidiefor : Mod : 6/21/2016 1:44 pm
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Orleans Darkwa spent the spring on the shelf. It was far from ideal for a running back in a crowded Giants backfield who is set to face an intense battle for a spot on the roster.

Darkwa was working out at the start of the Giants offseason program. Everything seemed fine.

At the start of organized team activities (OTAs), the Giants shut him down with a small fracture in his leg. It was a problem that originated last season, but never fully healed.

"I think it's something that lingered. I thought it was shin splints, so I played with it and didn't think much about it," Darkwa said. "They kind of got worse as the season went on."


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it will be tough with an injury  
Vanzetti : 6/21/2016 1:46 pm : link
he is in a competition with Williams for the final RB spot.
If williams is going to push Darkwa out..  
shabu : 6/21/2016 1:48 pm : link
If williams is going to push Darkwa out, he must be very very improved.

Darkwa was a bright spot last year.
Sure.  
AcidTest : 6/21/2016 2:04 pm : link
Even without injuries, he’s definitely in the mix. He played well last season.
He's dynamic.  
Beezer : 6/21/2016 2:06 pm : link
Gotta think he's got a shot, if he puts together a good summer and pre-season.
Williams needs to show  
Tom in NY : 6/21/2016 2:07 pm : link
More patience - allow the hole to develop.

Better receiving skills - his hands, up to this point, have been among the worst for an offensive player in the 40+ years I have been watching this team.

More elusiveness, rather than just a battering ram.

If he can't do all 3, then I believe Darkwa is on the team.
Imo he showed a LOT more than Williams last year,  
yatqb : 6/21/2016 2:11 pm : link
but the injury sure hurts his chances.
Unless Darkwa gets good and healthy by early during training camp,  
BlueLou : 6/21/2016 2:21 pm : link
His chances remind me of a scene from a Brendan Behan play, IIRC "The Quare Fellow."

An inmate in prison begs one of the guards for a cigarette, and the guard responds: "what brand do you smoke, Micky?"

Micky says "I don't give a rat's ass, I'll smoke whatever ya got."

Guard: "well Micky all I've got right now is 'The Three Nuns'."

"3 Nun's? That's a queer brand."

"The Three Nuns: None yesterday, none today, and none tomorrow."
Darkwa  
jintman : 6/21/2016 3:01 pm : link
My opinion, when he was not hurt he was the best running back on the roster...hurt often though........guy has talent...
I want the best  
Bleedin Blue : 6/21/2016 3:09 pm : link
53 players! I'm tired of the sentimental charity roster spots. As Carl Banks had said over and over again enough of the scholarships!
if he can't stay on the field, he can't make the final 53  
Dave : 6/21/2016 3:31 pm : link
say what you will about AW but he has proven that he can line up week in and week out, not so for OD.

(and while he may not dominate in the nfl like he did in the ncaa, with better OL play I think we will see better production from him)
Williams IS our designated battering ram ...  
Manny in CA : 6/21/2016 4:00 pm : link

Darkwa is competing against Vereen & Perkins; don't think he'll beat either out.
Bad Luck for him  
Watson : 6/21/2016 4:04 pm : link
Besides proving he can stay health, think he also must show improvement in pass protection for a good shot to make the team.
can he? sure  
UConn4523 : 6/21/2016 4:12 pm : link
will he? probably not. Vereen/Jennings/Perkins are locks outside of injury. It will be between Williams/Darkwa for that final spot and with what Perkins brings to the table, i'm guessing they will want someone with a different skillset (Williams) unless Darkwa blows him away in camp.

I don't really care either way, may the best player win the battle.
Yes  
AP in Halfmoon : 6/21/2016 4:21 pm : link
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the difference sometimes between making it  
grizz299 : 6/21/2016 4:22 pm : link
and not making it can fit on the tip of a sharp pin.

But what a difference in a life.
His chances are awful slim, imo...  
Dan in the Springs : 6/21/2016 4:54 pm : link
He barely made the team last year. While he looked good at times, there was some inconsistency. Now he's facing (hopefully) improved competition and he's coming off a bad injury.

I'd say his chances are between slim and none.
Dan - I have to agree with you  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/21/2016 5:02 pm : link
even if Williams doesn't make the team -- the Giants brought in another vet and have Perkins

Perkins, Jennings and Vereen are definitely in -- that leaves Williams, Rainey, Coprich and Darkwa to duke it out - and the coaching staff has been saying good things about Rainey and Williams -- I just don't see how Darkwa gets in
RE: Dan - I have to agree with you  
Jimmy Googs : 6/21/2016 6:56 pm : link
In comment 13003176 gidiefor said:
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that leaves Williams, Rainey, Coprich and Darkwa to duke it out


This sounds right on. So unlikely he makes it, and even if he does he provides little to nothing for our offense...
Fracture?  
Glover : 6/21/2016 7:26 pm : link
His leg would have to be amputated for Williams to beat him out.
I dont want to hear about Williams losing weight, putting on muscle. The Giants have suffered this 4th round mistake for 2 years. Time to move on.
Andre can play ...  
Manny in CA : 6/21/2016 8:07 pm : link

Maybe, in the NFL, he's tried to be something he's not.

With the Giants he's trying to run over defenders at the L.O.S. (like he didn't in college). Look at this video - he can juke, cut, and run fast; with a running start he can run over any NFL safety (but not NFL linemen & linebackers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGEk0w_sxM

He needs to remember his college style, or he's done.
I loved Cajun Thunder when he was firing on all cylinders.  
TC : 6/21/2016 8:27 pm : link
Best pure RB in the group. But, sadly, that doesn't seem to happen that often, and he has a history of it that goes back to college.

I guess Williams is going to stick around. So let's see who stays healthy out of camp. I don't want to jinx Rashad. I like Rainey over Coprich. I don't see any way Perkins isn't on the roster.

Biggest surprise would be if they cut Williams. But I'm surprised a lot.
IMO,  
Simms11 : 6/21/2016 9:06 pm : link
he's got more of a chance to stick then most think, due to the fact that he plays specials too and plays them well. Unless there's another injury, it will come down to Williams and Darkwa for the 4th spot.
Darkwa is so overrated its not even funny  
blueblood : 6/21/2016 9:29 pm : link
I dont think is anything special.
Coprich  
Vegas Steve : 6/21/2016 9:56 pm : link
Could be. A better back than both OD and Williams
RE: Darkwa is so overrated its not even funny  
adamg : 6/21/2016 11:36 pm : link
In comment 13003500 blueblood said:
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I dont think is anything special.


I agree. He had one good game. One good quarter in that game. And a lot of people want to crown him our best back. He was exciting for those few carries. He then wasn't exciting the next week. Ultimately he's too fragile and unproven to take it away from Williams, a guy who has lead the team in rushing yards.

I like Darkwa, but he's made of glass and isn't a sure anything.
RE: Andre can play ...  
DonQuixote : 6/21/2016 11:56 pm : link
In comment 13003400 Manny in CA said:
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Look at this video - he can juke, cut, and run fast; with a running start he can run over any NFL safety (but not NFL linemen & linebackers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGEk0w_sxM

He needs to remember his college style, or he's done.


Not seeing much "juke, cut" on that video, so not sure what you are seeing. He mostly runs straight ahead and runs people over. In fact, I found these highlights lumbering.
Unfortunately,  
Doomster : 6/22/2016 9:55 pm : link
Darkwa reminds me of Andre Brown......
RE: IMO,  
BlueLou : 6/23/2016 6:04 am : link
In comment 13003462 Simms11 said:
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he's got more of a chance to stick then most think, due to the fact that he plays specials too and plays them well. Unless there's another injury, it will come down to Williams and Darkwa for the 4th spot.


On a different thread I pooh-poohed Darkwas's STs prowess but after listening to Feagles speak about him yesterday my bad. I bet Feagles knows more about the Giants' STs players than anyone aside Quinn and Jeff confirmed Darkwa is top notch on STs.

Apology to whomever I doubted on the other thread.
Darkwa may be overrated  
mattnyg05 : 6/23/2016 6:23 am : link
But the reason why is because for a few quarters, he showed more pure running back skills (finding and hitting holes, making his own openings) than Williams has in two years. With the perceived talent they have at rb this year, keeping a drive-killing guy who can't catch the ball for anything because he's a big, fit dude would be really stupid IMO.
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