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NFT: New report suggests Michael Jackson truly was a sicko

DanMetroMan : 6/21/2016 2:43 pm
Michael Jackson hid a sinister house of horrors inside his infamous Neverland Ranch, stockpiling images of pornography, animal torture, S& M and gore in a bid to seduce innocent young boys.

Nearly seven years after the King of Pop’s death, RadarOnline.com has obtained never-before-seen reports from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department that show the true depths of his depravity.

READ THE REPORTS


Authorities wrote the bombshell reports after dozens of sheriff’s deputies, armed with search warrants, raided Jackson’s secluded Neverland Ranch in Los Olivos, Calif., in November 2003.

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The search was conducted as part of the continuing child sex abuse investigation against the Gloved One and turned up everything from Jackson’s twisted porn collection — which included filthy photos and videos of men, women, boys and girls in perverted positions — to drugs to treat sex addiction, with multiple prescriptions written by a variety of physicians for people close to the star.
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This is why i didn't do anything when he died  
Bramton1 : 6/21/2016 6:37 pm : link
So, he was a good singer. But he was a sick fuck, who didn't deserve to be reverred.
Jacko: "Why can't you share your bed?"  
FranknWeezer : 6/21/2016 6:50 pm : link
"What's wrong with sharing your bed?"
Jacko interviewed in 2003 by Martin Bashir - ( New Window )
RE: Jacko:  
FranknWeezer : 6/21/2016 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13003317 FranknWeezer said:
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"What's wrong with sharing your bed?" Jacko interviewed in 2003 by Martin Bashir - ( New Window )


Go to 1:26. "It's the most loving thing you can do, to share your bed."
Shocked I tell you  
mfsd : 6/21/2016 6:54 pm : link
What's next? We find out a WWE wrestler is on PEDs?
MJ, I can believe...but I would be shocked,  
SHO'NUFF : 6/21/2016 7:03 pm : link
SHOCKED, I say, if they found out Prince was anywhere near as perverse as MJ.
RE: rich and famous  
SHO'NUFF : 6/21/2016 7:07 pm : link
In comment 13003067 grizz299 said:
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so you get bored and turn to perversion?

I don't believe that for one moment. You make it sound inevitable and universal. Trumps rich, he's just dumb not crazy.
I am sorry for him, sorry for the damn world that such stuff exists. But I'm betting his sickness was pervasive, not at all related to his bank account and would have occurred if he worked at Walmarts.


That's why when my kid becomes rich and famous, I'll be there to humble his ass down from Entitlement Land.

So you guys think, nature vs nurture, that you guys would be fucked up, too, if you were rich and famous from a young age like MJ and Tyson?
After being a pedophile  
AP in Halfmoon : 6/21/2016 7:28 pm : link
Nothing could surprise me. He was a very warped person
Back in the day, like really back like 2300 years ago:  
wgenesis123 : 6/21/2016 7:59 pm : link
Rich Romans considered young boys a special treat. I will never understand them and I will never understand MJ. I think I would kill myself before I got sick enough to understand.
It doesn't excuse his alleged behavior but  
Kulish29 : 6/21/2016 8:01 pm : link
Jackson didn't exactly have the best parents or the best childhood. I remember hearing stories about how, when he was on the road with his father and brothers, they would have women in the room and, it would turn into a straight up orgy.

What he allegedly did is reprehensible but, he wasn't born a perverted mental case. His upbringing, or lack thereof, had everything to do with what he became.
The only sad thing is how often people cover shit  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/21/2016 8:02 pm : link
Up for people like him. And it goes on today as every other day is my guess

Roman Polanski raped a 13 year old and actors still want to work w him. How many pedophiles do you want to work with if they are really talented? The entertainment industry loves to hold themselves up as some great communtiy. Bill Cosby Michael Jackson Woddy Allen is scum too . Remember when hat deep thinking Whoopi claimed what Ploanski did was rape. Not Rape rape. Yeah. No one knows about this. It's all so surprising
Many reasons and excuses for the gloved one  
SomeFan : 6/21/2016 8:20 pm : link
Why not the same for Sandusky?
RE: animal torture is as sick as it gets  
Chris in Philly : 6/21/2016 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13002961 gtt350 said:
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That's an odd take when he was a child molester.
A great musician  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 6/21/2016 8:29 pm : link
But I would never spend a second defending him.
RE: RE: rich and famous  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/21/2016 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13003177 Randy in CT said:
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so you get bored and turn to perversion?

I don't believe that for one moment. You make it sound inevitable and universal. Trumps rich, he's just dumb not crazy.
I am sorry for him, sorry for the damn world that such stuff exists. But I'm betting his sickness was pervasive, not at all related to his bank account and would have occurred if he worked at Walmarts.

Heh. We don't know everything about Drumpf.


Well one of your heros regualarly flies w a convicted pedofilr and flys to his island. Hmm. Hypocrit says what?
RE: RE: RE: rich and famous  
Kulish29 : 6/21/2016 8:50 pm : link
In comment 13003435 LauderdaleMatty said:
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so you get bored and turn to perversion?

I don't believe that for one moment. You make it sound inevitable and universal. Trumps rich, he's just dumb not crazy.
I am sorry for him, sorry for the damn world that such stuff exists. But I'm betting his sickness was pervasive, not at all related to his bank account and would have occurred if he worked at Walmarts.

Heh. We don't know everything about Drumpf.



Well one of your heros regualarly flies w a convicted pedofilr and flys to his island. Hmm. Hypocrit says what?


Can we really call Bigfoot a hero?
I thought the actual reports after his death  
David in LA : 6/21/2016 8:52 pm : link
said he had only had adult pron.
I'd be a little leary of going off half cocked  
Brick72 : 6/21/2016 9:24 pm : link
about an article posted by a website described this way on Google: "Radar Online | Hottest Celebrity Gossip & Entertainment News", when no other major news service publishes the same information. Do you guys REALLY believe that no other major news channel would have this on the front page if it was substantiated? National Enquirer, anyone?
I actually read through the Sheriff's report  
eclipz928 : 6/21/2016 9:32 pm : link
that the website is referencing (there's a link to it on the webpage), and the way that the website describes what's concluded by it is very misleading.

What was found in his home was mostly adult heterosexual porn. There was some other fetish stuff (bondage, chicks with dicks, etc.), and certainly some questionable material depicting juveniles, but nothing that was found was illegal. There was no kiddie porn found by the investigators.

I didn't see anything in the report regarding animal torture. It may have been in reference to what's reported on the website of an image of a person holding a bludgeoned goose. But this radar online site doesn't appear to be any more than a place for tabloid trash.
RE: I'd be a little leary of going off half cocked  
T-Bone : 6/21/2016 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13003495 Brick72 said:
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about an article posted by a website described this way on Google: "Radar Online | Hottest Celebrity Gossip & Entertainment News", when no other major news service publishes the same information. Do you guys REALLY believe that no other major news channel would have this on the front page if it was substantiated? National Enquirer, anyone?


HA! Been wondering how long it'd take for some to see that site as basically the National Enquirer on-line. Next someone will be posting a story from that site saying a farmer saw his cow Betty get abducted by aliens. I've had some questions regarding MJ's past but I'm not sure I'd use THAT site as a source of confirmation of any kind. To each their own I guess...
RE: RE: I'd be a little leary of going off half cocked  
T-Bone : 6/21/2016 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13003583 T-Bone said:
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about an article posted by a website described this way on Google: "Radar Online | Hottest Celebrity Gossip & Entertainment News", when no other major news service publishes the same information. Do you guys REALLY believe that no other major news channel would have this on the front page if it was substantiated? National Enquirer, anyone?



HA! Been wondering how long it'd take for some to see that site as basically the National Enquirer on-line. Next someone will be posting a story from that site saying a farmer saw his cow Betty get abducted by aliens. I've had some questions regarding MJ's past but I'm not sure I'd use THAT site as a source of confirmation of any kind. To each their own I guess...


That should read "....someone to see that site as....".
There's something about the term...  
BMac : 6/21/2016 10:32 pm : link
..."half cocked" in this context that just begs for attention.
RE: There's something about the term...  
Kulish29 : 6/21/2016 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13003623 BMac said:
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..."half cocked" in this context that just begs for attention.


Jam own-ah!
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog...  
Milton : 6/21/2016 10:45 pm : link
"On a scale of 1 to 10, how old is Michael Jackson's boyfriend?"
At the Michael Jackson trial - ( New Window )
RE: RE: I'd be a little leary of going off half cocked  
T-Bone : 6/21/2016 11:27 pm : link
In comment 13003583 T-Bone said:
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In comment 13003495 Brick72 said:


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about an article posted by a website described this way on Google: "Radar Online | Hottest Celebrity Gossip & Entertainment News", when no other major news service publishes the same information. Do you guys REALLY believe that no other major news channel would have this on the front page if it was substantiated? National Enquirer, anyone?



HA! Been wondering how long it'd take for some to see that site as basically the National Enquirer on-line. Next someone will be posting a story from that site saying a farmer saw his cow Betty get abducted by aliens. I've had some questions regarding MJ's past but I'm not sure I'd use THAT site as a source of confirmation of any kind. To each their own I guess...


That should read "....someone to see that site as....".
RE: It doesn't excuse his alleged behavior but  
jcn56 : 6/21/2016 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13003389 Kulish29 said:
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Jackson didn't exactly have the best parents or the best childhood. I remember hearing stories about how, when he was on the road with his father and brothers, they would have women in the room and, it would turn into a straight up orgy.

What he allegedly did is reprehensible but, he wasn't born a perverted mental case. His upbringing, or lack thereof, had everything to do with what he became.


I've always felt this way as well. It doesn't excuse any of his transgressions as an adult, but I think between all the work and the fact that his father was supposedly a grade A asshole, it's hard to imagine him not being seriously fucked up.
RE: RE: I'd be a little leary of going off half cocked  
Moondawg : 6/22/2016 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13003583 T-Bone said:
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about an article posted by a website described this way on Google: "Radar Online | Hottest Celebrity Gossip & Entertainment News", when no other major news service publishes the same information. Do you guys REALLY believe that no other major news channel would have this on the front page if it was substantiated? National Enquirer, anyone?



HA! Been wondering how long it'd take for some to see that site as basically the National Enquirer on-line. Next someone will be posting a story from that site saying a farmer saw his cow Betty get abducted by aliens. I've had some questions regarding MJ's past but I'm not sure I'd use THAT site as a source of confirmation of any kind. To each their own I guess...


But what about the claim that MJ was abducted by aliens? Seems pretty plausible.
RE: this has been no secret  
Randy in CT : 6/22/2016 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13003266 Steve in South Jersey said:
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why rehash it now and speak ill of the dead
Huh? srylsly?
RE: RE: RE: rich and famous  
Randy in CT : 6/22/2016 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13003435 LauderdaleMatty said:
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so you get bored and turn to perversion?

I don't believe that for one moment. You make it sound inevitable and universal. Trumps rich, he's just dumb not crazy.
I am sorry for him, sorry for the damn world that such stuff exists. But I'm betting his sickness was pervasive, not at all related to his bank account and would have occurred if he worked at Walmarts.

Heh. We don't know everything about Drumpf.



Well one of your heros regualarly flies w a convicted pedofilr and flys to his island. Hmm. Hypocrit says what?
eh, what?
It always..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/22/2016 1:32 pm : link
boggled my mind the number of people who turned up to defend him outside the court case. The number of people who said he was just a child at heart.

If his name was Richard Pagorski wearing a wife-beater and having a beer belly, he'd have been run out of town by furious neighbors.
RE: It always..  
BMac : 6/22/2016 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13004478 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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boggled my mind the number of people who turned up to defend him outside the court case. The number of people who said he was just a child at heart.

If his name was Richard Pagorski wearing a wife-beater and having a beer belly, he'd have been run out of town by furious neighbors.


Not before they checked out his kielbasa.
No surprise here.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/22/2016 1:49 pm : link
LOL at the people who defended him all these years, though.
None of these revelations are revelatory  
BlackLight : 6/22/2016 5:49 pm : link
All of this "new" info was introduced at his 2005 trial. The man liked his adult porn and his pain meds. And none of nude/semi-nude pics of kids or teens met the definition of child pornography - according to the investigators or even the prosecutors at his criminal trial.

There's also nothing in the investigator's report about "animal torture porn" or "gore." These are the colorful inventions of people claiming "knowledge" of the investigation.
People are fucking weird  
Zebrka : 6/23/2016 12:02 am : link
with there excessive celeb slurrpping I would say

Um look at how people treat that bitch Chris Brown after what he did to Rhianna, pathetic. Look at how many people still care about Chris Benoit. Oooooh but Plaxico was a bad guy for shooint himg self! NUW!
RE: None of these revelations are revelatory  
madgiantscow009 : 6/23/2016 1:20 am : link
In comment 13005147 BlackLight said:
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All of this "new" info was introduced at his 2005 trial. The man liked his adult porn and his pain meds. And none of nude/semi-nude pics of kids or teens met the definition of child pornography - according to the investigators or even the prosecutors at his criminal trial.

There's also nothing in the investigator's report about "animal torture porn" or "gore." These are the colorful inventions of people claiming "knowledge" of the investigation.


I know one of the investigators. :)
keep  
RasputinPrime : 6/23/2016 4:19 am : link
knocking down the dead. Does anyone care to throw more dirt on his grave?
So incredibly fascinating to see how  
SethFromAstoria : 6/23/2016 5:53 am : link
Right in this very thread there is a "why can't we just let the man rest in piece?" Sort of defense of his actions and his truly disturbing behavior...I mean OJ almost sliced heads off and viciously tore apart 2 human beings including his ex wife...and yeah Bill Cosby drugged and raped women while doing his family routine on stage...

We all make mistakes no?!?

It's amazing how if someone we like is guilty of something - regardless if what it is - some sort of version of sympathy exists somewhere...


DJM you're right on point...this s what it looks like when a sociopath has so much money and also human support that he or she can be publicly maniacal. He isn't the first and not the last that's for sure but the stuff that is morally reprehensible is just awful.

,There is an HBO special a bunch of you probably know about.its about the "Iceman" Richard Kuklinski. If you don't know, he was a hitman for the mob but only because he was so good at killing and the job was a perfect fit. One part of the documentary is an interview with Park Dietz who is a forensic psychologist that interviews serial killers etc . But this one is unique because he isn't a serial killer and he goes into the personality defects that create someone like him. Someone who has the antisocial aspect and also the bad upbringing that brings out the bad things like Kulish talked about

Point I'm making is that MJ is literally a step away from being like Kuklinski but with the talent to do amazing things in a positive way and the money to hide the negative side. Now think about how he knew what he needed to hide and how to do it.....
Sorry  
SethFromAstoria : 6/23/2016 6:10 am : link
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Michael Iceman - ( New Window )
RE: keep  
baadbill : 6/25/2016 8:47 am : link
In comment 13005574 RasputinPrime said:
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knocking down the dead. Does anyone care to throw more dirt on his grave?


Yea. Let's have some respect people.
Let's do a cost benefit analysis here.  
Big Al : 6/25/2016 8:56 am : link
Look at all the joy he brought to millions through his music versus some minor damage to a few dozen insignificant kids. Get your priorities straight.
RE: None of these revelations are revelatory  
Dunedin81 : 6/25/2016 8:57 am : link
In comment 13005147 BlackLight said:
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All of this "new" info was introduced at his 2005 trial. The man liked his adult porn and his pain meds. And none of nude/semi-nude pics of kids or teens met the definition of child pornography - according to the investigators or even the prosecutors at his criminal trial.

There's also nothing in the investigator's report about "animal torture porn" or "gore." These are the colorful inventions of people claiming "knowledge" of the investigation.


Having reams of photographs of nude children in non-lascivious poses may not meet the definition of child pornography but if YOU were using it to "appeal to [your] prurient interest" you're still a pedophile.
RE: RE: None of these revelations are revelatory  
BlackLight : 6/25/2016 2:38 pm : link
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Having reams of photographs of nude children in non-lascivious poses may not meet the definition of child pornography but if YOU were using it to "appeal to [your] prurient interest" you're still a pedophile.


Let's pretend that I grant that. Now, it's just a matter of proving that's what Michael Jackson was doing.
I'd be curious as to what you think the benign and altruistic  
Bill L : 6/25/2016 2:42 pm : link
Artistic and angelic, motivations or uses one might have to collects tons of nude photos of young boys.
RE: RE: RE: None of these revelations are revelatory  
Cam in MO : 6/25/2016 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13009017 BlackLight said:
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Having reams of photographs of nude children in non-lascivious poses may not meet the definition of child pornography but if YOU were using it to "appeal to [your] prurient interest" you're still a pedophile.



Let's pretend that I grant that. Now, it's just a matter of proving that's what Michael Jackson was doing.


The only folks that need to prove anything would be folks taking him to court- the outcome of which isn't necessarily dependant on reality.

If it looks like it, and smells like it, it probably is.
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BlackLight : 6/25/2016 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13009022 Bill L said:
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Artistic and angelic, motivations or uses one might have to collects tons of nude photos of young boys.


I think that Michael Jackson was an immensely strange individual. My broader point is that I'm not keen to judge him as a child rapist absent evidence that's more compelling than this. I'm wondering why, if the guy likes children sexually, there weren't any pictures that depicted kids sexually? So the guy molests children because he thinks he's untouchable, but none of the pictures he has in his house meet the definition of child porn because - why? Because that's against the law and he's worried about getting caught?

One sort can apparently be legally acquired...  
Dunedin81 : 6/25/2016 11:06 pm : link
Or could at the time. The other, even then, was subject to sting operations and lengthy jail sentences.

What is publicly known about Jackson is damning, and was before this came along. People are starstruck and so want to pretend otherwise.
RE: One sort can apparently be legally acquired...  
BlackLight : 6/26/2016 2:53 am : link
In comment 13009421 Dunedin81 said:
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Or could at the time. The other, even then, was subject to sting operations and lengthy jail sentences.

What is publicly known about Jackson is damning, and was before this came along. People are starstruck and so want to pretend otherwise.


As I said, none of this stuff is new. It was all introduced as evidence during his 2005 trial.

And I still think it beggars belief that Jackson would be too concerned about getting caught acquiring or possessing child porn to even try getting his hands on it, but brazen enough to molest children in his bed with no concerns that his victims would talk.
RE: RE: rich and famous  
chopperhatch : 6/26/2016 3:50 am : link
In comment 13003177 Randy in CT said:
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so you get bored and turn to perversion?

I don't believe that for one moment. You make it sound inevitable and universal. Trumps rich, he's just dumb not crazy.
I am sorry for him, sorry for the damn world that such stuff exists. But I'm betting his sickness was pervasive, not at all related to his bank account and would have occurred if he worked at Walmarts.

Heh. We don't know everything about Drumpf.


Randy is SUCH a fucking ignorant weasel. He stands for nothing. He doesn't listen to reason. He labels people. He uses the same jokes over and over again.

Loathsome since the beginning Randy you fucking child.
RE: RE: One sort can apparently be legally acquired...  
Cam in MO : 6/26/2016 8:27 am : link
In comment 13009459 BlackLight said:
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Or could at the time. The other, even then, was subject to sting operations and lengthy jail sentences.

What is publicly known about Jackson is damning, and was before this came along. People are starstruck and so want to pretend otherwise.



As I said, none of this stuff is new. It was all introduced as evidence during his 2005 trial.

And I still think it beggars belief that Jackson would be too concerned about getting caught acquiring or possessing child porn to even try getting his hands on it, but brazen enough to molest children in his bed with no concerns that his victims would talk.


You think you're being logical, but you aren't. Physical evidence such as child pornography is much more dangerous than a child talking. Ignoring the fact that eyewitness testimony (much less that of a child's) is the weakest of all evidence, that children are very easy to influence, and that when it comes to sexual assault of their children, parents often times are willfully ignorant- it seems that the parents of these children were also somewhat complicit in what was going on (maybe not blatantly so, but who the hell lets their kid have a sleep-over with a grown ass man?)

Frankly, actually diddling a child is less of a risk than owning child pornography as sad as it sounds.

Regardless- it smells like shit and looks like shit, why the hell do you think we need to taste it to be sure?


I anxiously await Oliver's campaign  
Rob in CT/NYC : 6/26/2016 9:31 am : link
To have his former boss referred to as Jon Leibowitz.
You can't throw a few bucks...  
Dunedin81 : 6/26/2016 9:41 am : link
At an FBI sting investigation. Some of the parents of his underage friends were less scrupulous.
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