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NFT: HBO cancels Vinyl

PaulBlakeTSU : 6/22/2016 3:02 pm
I'm disappointed. The show was up and down, but I still thought it had a lot of promise. Bobby Cannavale is a great actor though he seemed to lack any redeeming qualities. He was worse than Don Draper, with fewer Don Draper light bulb moments.

I thought with some better organization, season 2 could have been much better, similar with the way The Leftovers turned into one of the best shows on television.
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Typical HBO  
NDMedics : 6/22/2016 3:46 pm : link
move. I stopped watching their stuff years ago when they canceled Deadwood and Carnivale right in the middle. HBO can not be trusted to see a series through to a conclusion.
I only caught the first 3 or 4 episodes  
illmatic : 6/22/2016 3:49 pm : link
but I thought it was decent.
RE: Typical HBO  
I Love Clams Casino : 6/22/2016 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13004822 NDMedics said:
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move. I stopped watching their stuff years ago when they canceled Deadwood and Carnivale right in the middle. HBO can not be trusted to see a series through to a conclusion.


Deadwood was a major disappointment. I've heard rumors of a movie.

Also....G.O.T.
people weren't watching Vinyl  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/22/2016 3:55 pm : link
and it was very expensive to make. Plus, they changed show runners (for those reasons) and because it wasn't getting good reviews either. They then decided to spend money elsewhere.

I'm guessing for Westworld, and hopefully for a bigger GOT budget.
The show sucked.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/22/2016 3:57 pm : link
The only episode I liked was the one with Elvis. I don't know who that guy was, but he was a great impersonator.
good.  
ArcadeSlumlord : 6/22/2016 4:02 pm : link
back to the drawing board...
the dice man was funny though  
ArcadeSlumlord : 6/22/2016 4:03 pm : link
lol!
I don't know why  
Pete in MD : 6/22/2016 4:07 pm : link
but I Bobby Cannavale almost always urks me on screen. His character in Boardwalk Empire was a ridiculous cartoon character.
I loved Bobby Cannavale on Nurse Jackie  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/22/2016 4:09 pm : link
and in "Win Win".
He wasn't bad in "The Station Agent"  
T in NJ : 6/22/2016 4:13 pm : link
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Thank God Leftovers got a 3rd season  
Motley Two : 6/22/2016 4:15 pm : link
That is all.
Bobby Cannavale in Boardwalk  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/22/2016 4:21 pm : link
cracked me up. Liked him in Blue Jasmine as well
Hello Ladies with Stephen Merchant was great  
Kulish29 : 6/22/2016 4:27 pm : link
Too bad it never got a second season.
They fucked up  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/22/2016 4:29 pm : link
With having a 2 hour premier. It was long and took forever to get good. I know someone who writes for the show too. If they had a fast paced first episode I think it would have been better.
RE: Hello Ladies with Stephen Merchant was great  
speedywheels : 6/22/2016 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13004988 Kulish29 said:
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Too bad it never got a second season.


True. But they did film a full length movie, so at least there was some closure to the story...
I'm not surprised.  
Section331 : 6/22/2016 4:30 pm : link
The first 3 or 4 episodes were pretty good, but it went downhill really quickly. I didn't finish the season, but the last 3 or 4 episodes I did watch were pretty terrible.
RE: RE: Hello Ladies with Stephen Merchant was great  
Kulish29 : 6/22/2016 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13004996 speedywheels said:
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Too bad it never got a second season.



True. But they did film a full length movie, so at least there was some closure to the story...


Wait...That actually happened? I had heard Merchant say they were thinking about doing a final episode to bring closure to the series but, that's it.

Wonderful news! Now I something to re-binge watch!
RE: RE: RE: Hello Ladies with Stephen Merchant was great  
speedywheels : 6/22/2016 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13005006 Kulish29 said:
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Too bad it never got a second season.



True. But they did film a full length movie, so at least there was some closure to the story...



Wait...That actually happened? I had heard Merchant say they were thinking about doing a final episode to bring closure to the series but, that's it.

Wonderful news! Now I something to re-binge watch!


Yeah, I think it came out last year sometime. It was good. I won't spoil it for you, but it was a nice tie up...
Olivia Wildes bush  
B in ALB : 6/22/2016 4:40 pm : link
Fin.
They ended Boardwalk Empire  
barens : 6/22/2016 5:37 pm : link
for this show...what a disappointment all around. If it weren't for GOT, they would be having a hard time with some recent bad decisions.

Showtime, on the other hand, can't seem to do anything wrong.
I'd argue  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/22/2016 5:49 pm : link
that HBO has the two best comedies on television (Veep and Silicon Valley), the best drama on television (Game of Thrones, a top 3 drama (The Leftovers and Fargo being 2/3 in some order), and the best variety/talk-show program (Last Week Tonight).
I stopped watching Leftovers  
GiantsFanInFL : 6/22/2016 7:30 pm : link
After season 1. So I should give season 2 a shot?
RE: I stopped watching Leftovers  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/22/2016 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13005281 GiantsFanInFL said:
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After season 1. So I should give season 2 a shot?


Season 2 was better and that's saying a lot. New place, new characters, bombshell plots... definitely watch it.
Good  
UConn4523 : 6/22/2016 8:26 pm : link
give all that budget to Westworld, cannot fucking wait for that show.
RE: Typical HBO  
schabadoo : 6/22/2016 8:52 pm : link
In comment 13004822 NDMedics said:
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move. I stopped watching their stuff years ago when they canceled Deadwood and Carnivale right in the middle. HBO can not be trusted to see a series through to a conclusion.


You haven't watched HBO shows in years but know this was a bad move.

Can't see how it'll be missed. Take its bloated budget and get me a season of Deadwood. Maybe Milch can get his shit together instead of focusing on another John from Cincinnati.
Love " win win"  
CaptSehorn : 6/22/2016 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13004922 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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and in "Win Win".


One of my favorite flicks of the last few years
The first half of the season was terrible  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 6/22/2016 9:43 pm : link
By the end it had started to pull out of the nosedive and I had some hope for a decent season 2.

You really can't start a show with the main character in a downward spiral. We have to at least have some time to find out who they are before they hit the floor, otherwise who cares.

There was a lot of stuff in this show that just didn't belong. Starting out with a murder was a huge mistake. I think Winter only knows how to make one kind of show.

When the show was at its best, it was about about the music and then it was pretty good. Here is the best scene from its short run. Watch it now and imagine what the show could have been.
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RE: I stopped watching Leftovers  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/22/2016 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13005281 GiantsFanInFL said:
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After season 1. So I should give season 2 a shot?


Season 2 was one of the best seasons of any television show I've seen. It was an emotional adventure. Great characters, and perfect use of music.
RE: I'd argue  
mattlawson : 6/22/2016 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13005146 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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that HBO has the two best comedies on television (Veep and Silicon Valley), the best drama on television (Game of Thrones, a top 3 drama (The Leftovers and Fargo being 2/3 in some order), and the best variety/talk-show program (Last Week Tonight).


yup. HBO crushing it. Girls as well was really good last season. no judgements
I always thought the show...  
Aquasax : 6/23/2016 8:10 am : link
would have been better without the manslaughter/murder subplot. There was so much going on already.
RE: RE: I stopped watching Leftovers  
Motley Two : 6/23/2016 8:25 am : link
In comment 13005453 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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After season 1. So I should give season 2 a shot?



Season 2 was one of the best seasons of any television show I've seen. It was an emotional adventure. Great characters, and perfect use of music.



Agree. I liked season 1 quite a bit, but season 2 was just WOW. Not a ratings giant, but basically achieved cult status overnight.
done  
giantfan2000 : 6/23/2016 8:45 am : link
I thought all the characters were so unlikable especially the lead

it is so funny how they were trying to do Mad Men but with Record Business
but in Mad Men you had unlikable characters like Pete but he was written as a complex character that you could not help but root for him to change and grow.

but in Vinyl the unlikable characters you just wanted to punch in the face.

also Mad Men was able to weave real events and people into the story in great way which made you feel the characters were living during the times but Vinyl's attempt at doing this very thing was ham fisted and dumb.

When Richie is sitting at the 'bar' at the end of the series and the owner comes up and asked him if the name CBGB's was a good one -- i wanted a throw a chair at my TV. There is NO WAY any music executive would be in CBGB's at the beginning .. it was just an empty bar with a handful of Hell's Angels before Television walked into CBs and asked if they could play

By the time a music executive walked into CBGBS the scene was fully formed and well known by downtown press.

just lazy cynical writing



RE: RE: RE: I stopped watching Leftovers  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2016 8:52 am : link
In comment 13005647 Motley Two said:
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After season 1. So I should give season 2 a shot?



Season 2 was one of the best seasons of any television show I've seen. It was an emotional adventure. Great characters, and perfect use of music.




Agree. I liked season 1 quite a bit, but season 2 was just WOW. Not a ratings giant, but basically achieved cult status overnight.


Leftovers Season 2 is one of my favorite seasons of TV ever. Can't recommend it enough.
The Leftovers  
Motley Two : 6/23/2016 9:09 am : link
Cult Status
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26.2 : 6/23/2016 11:29 am : link
my GF loves the leftovers. just too weird for me.

I really wanted to like Vinyl, but ultimately didn't. save a couple of episodes. not surprised there is no season 2.

I remember after I read the book "unbreakable" that ultimately became a movie, I thought HBO could make an awesome miniseries with that story. 2 hours isn't nearly long enough to tell that whole story.

I also think they could do something like that with "boys in the boat" about the US rowing team in the '36 berlin Olympics.

Veep and silicon valley are both very good. Girls I like, but that Dunam chick is just so unattractive and annoying sometimes...we all know how they ruined True detective. although season 1 was a tough act to follow.

I'm interested to watch that new one they are pimping - The night Of.
RE: RE: Typical HBO  
NDMedics : 6/23/2016 11:30 am : link
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move. I stopped watching their stuff years ago when they canceled Deadwood and Carnivale right in the middle. HBO can not be trusted to see a series through to a conclusion.



You haven't watched HBO shows in years but know this was a bad move.

Can't see how it'll be missed. Take its bloated budget and get me a season of Deadwood. Maybe Milch can get his shit together instead of focusing on another John from Cincinnati.


I simply said it was typical, you can be the judge of if it was a bad move or not!
RE: I stopped watching Leftovers  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 11:35 am : link
In comment 13005281 GiantsFanInFL said:
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After season 1. So I should give season 2 a shot?


Yes. I actually loved Season 1.. the general consensus seems to be that Season 1 was decent but Season 2 was outstanding.

Season 2 was outstanding, though. I just happened to really like both seasons. Definitely did think S2 was better. If you've already watched S1 you're doing yourself a major disservice not watching S2. One of my favorite shows ever at this point.
arc  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2016 2:26 pm : link
same here, loved season 1 as well. Season 2 definitely was a notch above, but that shouldn't diminish season 1.
For the first 6-7 episodes  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/23/2016 3:03 pm : link
of season 1 of The Leftovers, I wasn't positive as to what I was watching or whether I even liked it. I just had a ton of faith in HBO and Damon Lindelof. But it was frustrating up until that point and was up and down.

The last two or three episodes of season 1 turned the series around and ended it on a terrific note that left me excited for season 2. And then season 2 was a masterclass.
RE: I'd argue  
barens : 6/23/2016 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13005146 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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that HBO has the two best comedies on television (Veep and Silicon Valley), the best drama on television (Game of Thrones, a top 3 drama (The Leftovers and Fargo being 2/3 in some order), and the best variety/talk-show program (Last Week Tonight).


Granted, I have not started the Leftovers yet, but with all of the positive commentary, I'm looking forward to getting into a new show.

But too me, Silicon Valley doesn't do it for me. I did watch the first season, and I found every character to be highly irritating. Veep is good, but for some reason, it just doesn't keep my attention. And with Vinyl, and not sticking with Boardwalk, the 2nd season of True Detective, HBO cancelling the Brink(which I really enjoyed), I just haven't loved all of their decisions.

That said, I'm really just venting a bit, and am really looking forward to Ballers and Vice Principles, as well as others.
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