Right now Knicks currently on the roster:
C. Kyle O'Quinn
Pf. Kristaps
Sf. Melo
Sg. Gallo (Qualifying Offer), Justin Holiday
Pg. Derrick Rose
That's it. 9 holes to fill, about 26 mil in cap space and as of right now 0 draft picks to work with.
That said, pretty much everyone is trying to move out of this draft. It sounds like we'll be able to get at least one second, with an outside shot of maybe buying a first.
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The Post has learned the Knicks paid the Sixers $1.5 million for the 35th overall pick last year, which they used for center Willy Hernangomez, whom they plan to bring aboard for next season. Early second-rounders are the most economical in the draft because the minimum contract is $535,000.
This moron still doesn't know we also traded two future seconds to get Willy. He also doesn't know that in a year where most teams are significantly under the cap - second rounders may end up making more than first rounders. Link - ( New Window )
From what I've read the going rate for a 2nd is now expected to be about 3 million.
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In comment 13005758 Jay on the Island said:
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Is he going to come over this year or is he going to stay in Europe?
Supposedly wants to come over. Rumor is the Knicks have offered 4 years 4.5.
Thanks Dan, any news on how he performed last year? Is he an option to steal some minutes at center?
Played for a veteran high level team so he didn't play a "ton" but played pretty well. I think unless he's going to be playing a ton over there vs. not playing here he's better off coming to the NBA now. His brother has said he (meaning his brother) wants to play in the NBA right away so that could have an impact.
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Instead, in a deal Forman called "a retool rather than a rebuild," the Bulls proactively tried to get some return for Rose, clearly the best player in the trade. Sources said other exploratory talks led to teams asking the Bulls to include a future first-round pick to take on Rose's contract, knowing he could walk in free agency next summer.
very little has changed at MSG. Link - ( New Window )
This. Wait, except for the fact that the Knicks aren't trading future picks for risky long-term investments, which is what basically made a Knicks trade a "Knicks" trade.
So yes, very little has changed. Except for the main philosophy of the FO which has changed.
Wrong again. The Knicks use cash applicable to the following league year when making these deals. So cash used for KOQ has nothing to do with being able to acquire a draft pick this year.
So yes, very little has changed. Except for the main philosophy of the FO which has changed.
the "philosophy" of always overpaying is still going strong. And a trade doesn't have to involve giving up draft picks to make it a bad one. Steve Francis comes to mind. Or even the Z-Bo deal where they included Frye when Portland was desperate to dump his deal. Normal franchises expect something in return for taking high-priced damaged goods in a trade - the Knicks are always happy to trade assets in return. Nothing has changed.
This. Wait, except for the fact that the Knicks aren't trading future picks for risky long-term investments, which is what basically made a Knicks trade a "Knicks" trade.
So yes, very little has changed. Except for the main philosophy of the FO which has changed.
To be fair, they didn't have any picks to trade. Who can say if their philosophy has changed.
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the max you can send out in a transaction per year. We are most likely operating with less than that if we did in fact send out cash in the O'Quinn sign-and-trade.
Wrong again. The Knicks use cash applicable to the following league year when making these deals. So cash used for KOQ has nothing to do with being able to acquire a draft pick this year.
the league year starts in July. If the trade is agreed upon and announced on draft night, it takes place in the prior league year. Sometimes trades aren't consummated until the new league year, but not always.
and he even brags about "learning" about how much cash went out in the deal.
I'd do either. Lamb in particular even though it complicates the purported cap room. Worst case scenario we attach a similar asset to get rid of him.
Boy, it really seems like picks in this draft are nearly worthless, huh? Attaching #22 to get rid of a not-bad Lamb contract (and he has upside). #12 for a year of George Hill.
Sources say Phoenix, in its failed trade pitch to convince Utah to surrender Gordon Hayward, tried to pair Eric Bledsoe with a lottery pick
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neither player is making much (around 6-7 per) and both could actually help the knicks. Lamb isnt the shooter we need, but if he was the starting 2 i wouldnt hate it. Plus those contracts are going to be peanuts in a couple years. And hawes has a PO next year and with the way contracts are going to go it wouldnt shock me if he opted out.
I'd do either. Lamb in particular even though it complicates the purported cap room. Worst case scenario we attach a similar asset to get rid of him.
Boy, it really seems like picks in this draft are nearly worthless, huh? Attaching #22 to get rid of a not-bad Lamb contract (and he has upside). #12 for a year of George Hill.
Same. At 22 I'd take someone like Valentine (I know you aren't a fan), Beasley or Richardson.
Lamb 15.9 PER, .107 WS/48 vs. Turner 13.6 PER, 0.85 WS/48 so if the Turner interest is real this option sound MUCH better
Lamb 15.9 PER, .107 WS/48 vs. Turner 13.6 PER, 0.85 WS/48 so if the Turner interest is real this option sound MUCH better
Id take that Lamb deal in a heartbeat. If he shows any potential as even a rotational deal his contract is fantastic. Even though they made a win now trade I don't think they should just start throwing money at 35 year old free agents
No it doesn't not even close
Lamb 15.9 PER, .107 WS/48 vs. Turner 13.6 PER, 0.85 WS/48 so if the Turner interest is real this option sound MUCH better
100%
it shows a similar flawed approach to team building but it's not as bad as the Bargs trade.
Sources say Phoenix, in its failed trade pitch to convince Utah to surrender Gordon Hayward, tried to pair Eric Bledsoe with a lottery pick
Bledsoe AND a lottery pick for a player who can opt out next offseason.
No you can't. Bargnani was, is and always will be atrocious. It made no sense at the time and still doesn't.
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Sources say Phoenix, in its failed trade pitch to convince Utah to surrender Gordon Hayward, tried to pair Eric Bledsoe with a lottery pick
Bledsoe AND a lottery pick for a player who can opt out next offseason.
To be fair they just got George Hill, don't know really how much of an improvement Bledsoe is. But I guess Hill would be the starting 2 guard after that trade.
it's still trading assets for damaged goods (that the other team is looking to rid themselves of). It's just different types of assets.
So then you have some #2s in there, and Calderon. I think Calderon has value in this market, even if people (even GMs) dont realize it at this point.
if that's your view, then what does that say about the guy who drafted him? What does it say about nearly their entire 2015 offseason? Tons of cap space and a #19 pick and all they have to show for it is one year of broken down Derrick Rose coming up. That's awful.
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Pretty expected. It's something he has said he loves doing, playing on that team.
Who says his ceiling was a backup? That's absurd.
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I think Calderon has value in this market, even if people (even GMs) dont realize it at this point.
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I know it sounds crazy. But he is a very good shooter. Floor spacer. On a shitty team you see his warts. On a team where he plays 15 minutes a night, it's a different story. good teams get use out of players like this.
What would people say if Richard Jefferson was playing a ball dominant role here? You cant win with an old make like that! Yet on Cleveland he's a valuable shot minute contributor.
His last 3 months of play when his eyesight cleared up suggest differently.
Melo
Lowry
Cousins
George
Durant
Butler
Green.
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who appeared in at least 60 games by ESPN RPM. Only Ty Lawson was worse. I think you guys are underestimating how bad Rose is.
His last 3 months of play when his eyesight cleared up suggest differently.
Really? His last 4 months by Offensive Rating/Defensive Rating:
102/112
103/113
98/113
87/120
SUPERSTAR!
Here's two other guys on the same team for reference:
Gasol:
109/102
114/105
97/103
112/104
Butler:
121/109
129/107
112/108
120/114
How many games did you see him play?
Again.... his Janurary, February, and March play was much much better than what he produced at the beginning of the year when he was wearing a mask and had blurry vision.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Are you going to come out and say right now that rose was worse than Jose Calderon?
"ghost" holds or whatever?)?
But Rose does put together a string of weeks where he looks like a top 10 or even top 5 PG. that's something to look forward to. If you check his splits on ESPN there is a drastic difference between games he has 1 day of rest vs 2 days of rest. Hopefully another season will allow him to acclimate more. That's the optimist viewpoint anyway.