NFT: Knicks/Draft Day Talk 6/23

Melo can be a passable defender when he needs to be, I just would worry about those 3 down low.

The way the NBA is evolving though couldn't we realistically play Durant as kind of a swing 2 and put a big on the court to play the 5 with KP at the 4 and Melo the 3?

gets us durant its like the greatest trade ever. I mean its nice that we are in the conversation, but id still be beyond shocked if we got him.

In comment 13006448 arcarsenal said:

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Melo can be a passable defender when he needs to be, I just would worry about those 3 down low. The way the NBA is evolving though couldn't we realistically play Durant as kind of a swing 2 and put a big on the court to play the 5 with KP at the 4 and Melo the 3?

All kidding aside I think they would make it work. I mean say we played the Warriors, those games would be shoot outs any way you slice it. The Cavs are NBA champions but it's not as if they have 3 great offensive players that would be able to exploit the Knicks "bad" defensive trio.

it would depend who you are playing. If you are playing with a team that has anything resembling a slashing 2 guard you couldnt put durant on him. That said the SG position in the nba isnt amazing right now so there could be times you could maybe get away with it for short spurts. I think it would def be an issue, but i also think that KP will be a bit of an eraser on D. His shot blocking ability/timing for a rookie was very impressive.

unless you have two elite wing defenders you are going to be in trouble when we have melo/durant. Not to mention your big getting pulled out of the paint to guard KP at the 3 pt line (not that i want KP living out there, but at times sure).

Load, and drive the UHall all the way to OKC for KD.

an elite defender to play the 2 who cant do anything else. That kind of guy never gets paid and with Rose, Melo, Durant, and KP you dont need more offense. Sure a 3 and D guy would be nice, but if all we could afford would be the D then so be it.

The Oklahoma City Thunder are shopping Serge Ibaka in trade scenarios on draft day.

Ibaka will be an unrestricted free agent in 2017.

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for the pic from Melo with him and Rose sitting at a bar with an empty sit between them?????

would make a KD departure more likely (or signal KD has already said he's maybe/probably leaving).

That's true. I'm absolutely all for Durant (though I'm sure this is just wishful thinking in the end), I would never worry about fit so much that I'd pass on adding an elite player. Just kind of piecing it together and how it would work in my head.

Ibaka's play has declined the past 2 years. Only 26 but notable. Knicks don't have any chips to land him though #Knicks

and what kind of relationship he has with Durant. You gotta think that OKC wouldnt do anything that would lower there chances of keeping Durant though.

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In comment 13006434 Coach Mason said: Quote: Alan Hahn on his show this afternoon. First words out of his mouth. Said he spoke to people who said Durant is intrigued and wants to meet with Knicks. Said other FA around the league are intrigued as well, mentioned he was texting back and forth a FA with multiple awards (pretty sure it was Crawford) who was now intrigued by the Knicks situation Thing about NBA players is that they're generally terrible at acknowledging the decline of star players. Hence people thinking Kobe was a top player to the end. That cognitive dissonance should help with Melo and Rose -- two superstars!

If you somehow land Durant, You have two 'more healthy'stars in Durant and KP and two that have battled some issues in Rose and Melo. But even Rose and Melo are not too old age -wise and minutes can be monitored a bit with a good rotation of star players around them.

But I simply don't see how Durant and Melo coexist. I would rather play the year out with Rose, let him earn a contract, and then make the big push for Russell Westbrook.

don't see any possible way the Knicks could land Ibaka. We have absolutely nothing to trade. Hernangomez isn't landing you Serge Ibaka.

Durant no matter what cost, but what does that leave is just vet mins for the rest of the roster, do we get mid level and mini mid level of we are at the full cap?

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Not without tearing an ACL

1997 the Bulls were going to trade Pippen for McGrady but Jordan "vetoed" it. GM Jordan was wack son.

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In comment 13006512 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: . Not without tearing an ACL

Bastard 😂

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In comment 13006397 Jon in NYC said: Quote: In comment 13006393 Anakim said: Quote: LegionNBA ‏@MySportsLegion The Celtics and Bucks are discussing a trade that would involve Khris Middleton and Greg Monroe heading to Boston. (via @GeryWoelfel) Wonder what would be going back. No 3? Bradley or Smart and number 3.

Gross.Danny should be fired if he did that.

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1997 the Bulls were going to trade Pippen for McGrady but Jordan "vetoed" it. GM Jordan was wack son.

And they probably have only 5 rings instead of 6. Nothing wrong vetoing that trade.

for the #2 pick being discussed.

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In comment 13006514 DanMetroMan said: Quote: 1997 the Bulls were going to trade Pippen for McGrady but Jordan "vetoed" it. GM Jordan was wack son. And they probably have only 5 rings instead of 6. Nothing wrong vetoing that trade.

Pippen left the Bulls after the season. That move set the Bulls back. Jordan and Tmac could have been nasty for years to come.

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for the pic from Melo with him and Rose sitting at a bar with an empty sit between them?????

Oh how sweet that would be...until Evan Turner winds up filling it.

believe Butler is available. "Multiple" offers on the table. Orlando thinks they are in the drivers seat. I wonder what they are offering?

I can't take the curse of that number anymore. This is a good sign.

In comment 13006496 chopperhatch said:

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But I simply don't see how Durant and Melo coexist. I would rather play the year out with Rose, let him earn a contract, and then make the big push for Russell Westbrook.

But two ball dominant combo guards can co-exist? You're a special kind of stupid.

to Minnesota being discussed. OKC would receive #5

filling out their roster with ring chasers if they signed Durant. You people that are complaining about fit are insane. Signing Durant gives us a better shot at the title than all the other plans anyone can think of. Just stop with the nit picking

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believe Butler is available. "Multiple" offers on the table. Orlando thinks they are in the drivers seat. I wonder what they are offering?

Oladipo and something right?

For Butler and chi first (#15?)

In comment 13006526 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13006521 dep026 said: Quote: In comment 13006514 DanMetroMan said: Quote: 1997 the Bulls were going to trade Pippen for McGrady but Jordan "vetoed" it. GM Jordan was wack son. And they probably have only 5 rings instead of 6. Nothing wrong vetoing that trade. Pippen left the Bulls after the season. That move set the Bulls back. Jordan and Tmac could have been nasty for years to come.

They would not have won in that final series and Jordan wasnt coming back, even with a high schooler who flashed potential.

Curse? Who wore #1 for the Knicks?

Fragile ass amare

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to Minnesota being discussed. OKC would receive #5

That trade makes a lot of sense for Minnesota if they can resign

they have more assets than they can use. They need to spend 5 quarters to get a dollar player.

Turning into Danny Ainge.

In comment 13006558 melojeteli4 said:

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Curse? Who wore #1 for the Knicks?

Penny. Steve Francis. Amare.

apparently think Gasol will choose between the Spurs and Knicks.

Butler to the Lakers for Ingram seems to be picking up steam. Chicago completely blowing it up?

In comment 13006448 arcarsenal said:

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Melo can be a passable defender when he needs to be, I just would worry about those 3 down low. The way the NBA is evolving though couldn't we realistically play Durant as kind of a swing 2 and put a big on the court to play the 5 with KP at the 4 and Melo the 3?

I think that would work. Plus, it would allow the Knicks to always have either Melo or Durant on the floor.

Also, if you can sign Durant, you do it and worry about how it all fits together later.

apparently the math works out to a 14 million dollar contract from last year being worth about 10 under the new cap.

For all those clamoring about Rose and how that trade doesn't help us in the long term. Gasol just adds fuel to that fire.

Unless Jackson is looking to build to win now, it doesn't make sense.

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apparently think Gasol will choose between the Spurs and Knicks.

That's good if true. Because Spurs definitely won't overpay. That's my big worry with Gasol that some team offers some ridiculous contract that it would be foolish for the Knicks to match.

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But I simply don't see how Durant and Melo coexist. I would rather play the year out with Rose, let him earn a contract, and then make the big push for Russell Westbrook.

You are seriously arguing that you would not sign Durant if he wanted to come here because it is better to wait for Westbrook?

obviously the wheels can fall off, but his game appears to be aging well.

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they have more assets than they can use. They need to spend 5 quarters to get a dollar player.

You think if Butler is a real option for them, they could potentially do a deal of both Oladipo and Fournier S&T? The numbers would work out I think.