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NFT: Mets and Braves- Revenge!

ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 11:57 am
-Cespedes, Thor, and Wheeler all good

-Harvey VS Wisler tonight

-Reynolds hit his first HR

-Colon should start on schedule

-Cespedes should miss a couple days (No DL)

-Reyes should be available to sign anywhere Saturday

-Collins was an asshole to Jay Horwitz

-Mets only 3.5 back
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I'm pulling for you guys.  
GiantFilthy : 6/23/2016 12:00 pm : link
Hope your team can get close to looking average in this series.
Collins  
Shecky : 6/23/2016 12:04 pm : link
Glad you brought it up, complete dickhead move on his part.
To be 2 back in the loss column  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 12:05 pm : link
after all the injuries and lack of offense, is amazing.

Take 3 of 4 this weekend and have some momentum going to WAS...
RE: Collins  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13006086 Shecky said:
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Glad you brought it up, complete dickhead move on his part.


Seriously what was that about? Terrible.
RE: Collins  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13006086 Shecky said:
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Glad you brought it up, complete dickhead move on his part.


Yeah that was bizarre. Really bad look.
GO BRAVES! Another sweep!  
Beezer : 6/23/2016 12:16 pm : link

(I'm bringin' it back, baby!)
Reyes  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 12:52 pm : link
Heyman: the chances for a return to the Mets have gone from nil to very good in seemingly no time [...] their inability to manufacture runs is about the worst in baseball. Earlier this week, when they were sixth in home runs, they were still 28th in overall runs, which isnt easy.
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question for Z, MetroDan and any other close follower of Mets  
deeee : 6/23/2016 2:10 pm : link
anyone know what the deal is with Gary Cohen and the large growth on the left side of his jaw?

Just curious; I've googled and found nothing. I hope it is not serious like a tumor.
Why the 'puppy dog' remark?  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 2:12 pm : link
John Harper
One misconception I've heard: Horwitz wasn't acting on his own. Mets' brass had instructed him to have Collins announce Syndergaard elbow.

Reyes  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 2:29 pm : link
Bob Nightengale
The #Rockies officially request release waivers on Jose Reyes

RE: Reyes  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13006340 sphinx said:
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Bob Nightengale
The #Rockies officially request release waivers on Jose Reyes
Reyes will have 48 hours to clear waivers, after which hell become a free agent and have the ability to sign with any club for the pro-rated portion of the league minimum.
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would some team claim him just to screw the Mets?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/23/2016 2:48 pm : link
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Great job by Matt Reynolds  
Vanzetti : 6/23/2016 2:52 pm : link
He is a guy you you love to root for. Plays hard. Gives it all. Trys to stay in ABs. He will very likely return to earth given his tats at AAA. But that's why you give guys an opportunity: you never know when a guy can come up, get hot , and give the team a boost. Sort of the "Benny Agbayani Factor"
Nats  
spike : 6/23/2016 2:53 pm : link
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RE: would some team claim him just to screw the Mets?  
Vanzetti : 6/23/2016 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13006364 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I think they would be responsible for his contract if they claim him.
Re: Collins  
Vanzetti : 6/23/2016 3:04 pm : link
Sounds like there is some friction between Terry and the FO. Calling Jay a "puppy dog" insinuates that he is the stooge of the higher ups. I mean obviously Jay did not decide on his own to let the world know about Noah. For some reason, they wanted Collins to make the announcement--maybe to make him seem like he was in command? Hard to say.

But I don't think this is just Terry being an asshole to Jay. I'm no fan of Terry as a strategist but he has been here six years and by all accounts is a nice guy. So, there must be some underlying tension. Could it be over Reyes? Terry made it pretty clear he would welcome Jose's return with all his comments about how much he loved Jose's presence. Maybe the FO does not want to sign Jose. Obviously that is speculation on my part but definitely seems like something is going on.
RE: would some team claim him just to screw the Mets?  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13006364 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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From the article linked above ...
Technically, a team could claim Reyes off release waivers, though considering the $38.14MM remaining on his contract through the end of the 2017 season, hes a virtual lock to clear and seek new employment on the open market.

Horowitz  
Shecky : 6/23/2016 3:26 pm : link
Jay will take the high road. Make a joke about it to everyone and it will go away publicly.
Collins was 110% an asshole last night.
thanks for the info  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/23/2016 3:28 pm : link
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Expect  
DanMetroMan : 6/23/2016 3:50 pm : link
Reyes in the Mets lineup next week...
RE: Expect  
Shecky : 6/23/2016 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13006503 DanMetroMan said:
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Reyes in the Mets lineup next week...


Exciting news, thanks Dan!
RE: RE: Expect  
DanMetroMan : 6/23/2016 3:58 pm : link
In comment 13006515 Shecky said:
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In comment 13006503 DanMetroMan said:


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Reyes in the Mets lineup next week...



Exciting news, thanks Dan!


No confirmation obviously but Reyes 100% wants to return and Jeff has already given the okay.
Dan  
debo_GIANTS : 6/23/2016 4:00 pm : link
Have you come around on signing Reyes? Last week you seemed torn.
RE: Expect  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 4:00 pm : link
In comment 13006503 DanMetroMan said:
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Reyes in the Mets lineup next week...


That would be great. As long as it doesn't mean they won't be serious players for Gurriel.

Not saying they HAVE to sign him; if he goes to a higher bidder then so be it. But I don't want to hear "well, we signed Jose so that's all we can do now", or some such crap...

Jose will cost peanuts, and DW is a huge question mark to ever return, so they had better do their due diligence on Gurriel, who would only cost money...
RE: Expect  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13006503 DanMetroMan said:
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Reyes in the Mets lineup next week...

Why not Sat night? :)

........................  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 4:07 pm : link
Rich Coutinho
Met Lineup:
Grandy RF,
Cabrera SS,
Loney 1B,
Walker 2B,
Johnson 3B,
Conforto LF,
darnaud c,
DeaZa CF,
Harvey P

Mike Puma
Gourriel is expected to work out with the Mets at some point next week.

Anthony DiComo Verified account
Noah Syndergaard WILL make his next start as scheduled Monday in Washington, starting off a three-game series against the Nationals

Jose  
Shecky : 6/23/2016 4:17 pm : link
There is no highest bidder in this situation.

This doesn't take Mets out of anything. Just need 40 spots
RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 6/23/2016 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13006525 debo_GIANTS said:
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Have you come around on signing Reyes? Last week you seemed torn.


I'm a hypocrite. I think the allegations/what he reportedly did was disgusting but he was my second favorite Met ever and I guess people deserve a chance to come back from their mistakes.
RE: Horowitz  
Rflairr : 6/23/2016 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13006459 Shecky said:
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Jay will take the high road. Make a joke about it to everyone and it will go away publicly.
Collins was 110% an asshole last night.


There needs to be a public apology. No excuse for insulting him publicly like that.
Apology  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 4:23 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
Terry Collins apologized to Jay Horwitz today for his behavior at the end of yesterday's press conference. Called it "unprofessional."

Marc Carig
Full media contingent wasn't here at start of TC's presser. When they arrived, he issued another apology to Jay Horwitz.

RE: question for Z, MetroDan and any other close follower of Mets  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13006302 deeee said:
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anyone know what the deal is with Gary Cohen and the large growth on the left side of his jaw?

Just curious; I've googled and found nothing. I hope it is not serious like a tumor.


I honestly have no clue man.
RE: Jose  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13006570 Shecky said:
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There is no highest bidder in this situation.

This doesn't take Mets out of anything. Just need 40 spots

Duda and Wright still on the 15 day DL

lets kick some  
spike : 6/23/2016 4:29 pm : link
tomachop butts!
I'm coming around on Jose too  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 4:29 pm : link
I think he offers league average offense upside (meh) but he's an emotional guy and maybe he sparks this lifeless lineup. He costs nothing. Count me in on thinking we need "more" leading up to the deadline. Gurriel seems like a nice gamble on paper but maybe he looks like shit at his showcase? With Wright out for sure and Duda not coming back for months we need another bat in the middle of the lineup. Can't depend on Conforto anymore either.
we need speeeed  
spike : 6/23/2016 4:35 pm : link
im not sure Gourriel has any speed but Reyes can still steal bases
Let's assume Reyes returns..  
Chris684 : 6/23/2016 4:48 pm : link
Where do you put Grandy in the lineup?

Who is playing 3B?

What does the overall lineup look like?
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DanMetroMan : 6/23/2016 4:49 pm : link
An Ex-Met has returned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. not hot him, Darin Gorski- http://goo.gl/alerts/ktlmN #GoogleAlerts #Mets
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Chris684 : 6/23/2016 4:52 pm : link
Reyes SS
Cabrera 3B
Conforto LF
YC CF
Walker 2B
Grandy RF
TDA C
Loney/Flores 1B

????
RE: Let's assume Reyes returns..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/23/2016 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13006645 Chris684 said:
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Where do you put Grandy in the lineup?

Who is playing 3B?

What does the overall lineup look like?


Nice thing about Grandy is he'll be fine anywhere in the lineup. Batting him leadoff was the one place that seemed like a big questionmark.
Ces  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 4:56 pm : link
James Wagner
Cespedes said he first hurt wrist in '13 but only needed a few days. Reappeared over past wk. Said he can play today but was given day off.

Yuck I guess I go  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 5:07 pm : link
Reyes
Granderson
Cespedes
Walker
TDA
Conforto
Cabrera
Loney

Nimmo for Conforto?

Reyes
Nimmo
Cespedes
Granderson
Walker
TDA
Cabrera
Loney

However if Reyes is hitting like he hit last year he bats 8th
I wanted the Cuban guy for 3B  
Rflairr : 6/23/2016 5:12 pm : link
But damn, I didn't know he was already 32
RE: ...  
Rflairr : 6/23/2016 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13006652 Chris684 said:
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Reyes SS
Cabrera 3B
Conforto LF
YC CF
Walker 2B
Grandy RF
TDA C
Loney/Flores 1B

????


I just don't think you can move Cabrera right now. He's playing some of the best SS we've seen in a while here.
To me the power  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 5:14 pm : link
Move would be moving Walker to 1B (fully aware it hasn't been discussed). Get Loney's bat out of the lineup and get Herrera AND and Reyes in there.

RE: I wanted the Cuban guy for 3B  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 5:15 pm : link
In comment 13006677 Rflairr said:
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But damn, I didn't know he was already 32


Yup but that really helps us as he's likely up for a short term deal. If he was 25 we'd have to offer him a boatload more.
RE: To me the power  
Rflairr : 6/23/2016 5:21 pm : link
In comment 13006684 ZGiants98 said:
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Move would be moving Walker to 1B (fully aware it hasn't been discussed). Get Loney's bat out of the lineup and get Herrera AND and Reyes in there.



I like that. Herrera deserves to be up here. And thats likely getting the best players out there
RE: RE: To me the power  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13006691 Rflairr said:
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In comment 13006684 ZGiants98 said:


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Move would be moving Walker to 1B (fully aware it hasn't been discussed). Get Loney's bat out of the lineup and get Herrera AND and Reyes in there.





I like that. Herrera deserves to be up here. And thats likely getting the best players out there


They won't do it though. They LOVE the chemistry in the middle. Seems like they are extremely hesitant to even move Walker to 3B. A position he has hundreds of professional games at (minors included). I also suspect they have an eye on that extra year of Herrera control (August).
I was always one  
Chris684 : 6/23/2016 5:26 pm : link
who liked Reyes better than Wright. I respect DW but I always felt Reyes was the more dynamic talent.

I was against bringing him back, then I came around to the idea, and now I'm back to being "somewhat" against it.

There really is not alot to lose but I just don't see how Reyes helps this current team all that much. He's not a fit position wise. So far, Cabrera has been one of the brighter spot on the team and he's been terrific defensively.

What we need is for Conforto and TDA to stay healthy and hit. These are young guys we had penciled in. We need production from them badly.

.  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 6:00 pm : link
Paul Rosenberg ‏@PaulsRandomness 1h1 hour ago
#BREAKING NEWS: According to a source with knowledge of their plans, the #Mets will sign Jose Reyes by the end of this weekend.
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arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 6:43 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 6/22/2016 11:10 pm : link : reply
Maybe Jose joins us just in time for the Nats and gives us a little spark at the right time. :)


:)
Luck of the draw ...  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 6:52 pm : link
Harvey was just seen looking at tonight's lineup and going over to Collins and saying, "are you fucking kidding me?"

j/k

........................  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 7:10 pm : link
Marc Carig Retweeted Alex Nieves
Nothings final. But if theres a reunion, I hear Reyes likely goes to minors to get some time in at third base.

RE: ........................  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 7:13 pm : link
In comment 13006774 sphinx said:
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Marc Carig Retweeted Alex Nieves
Nothings final. But if theres a reunion, I hear Reyes likely goes to minors to get some time in at third base.


Hmmm. Guess that means Gurriel isn't going to be an option...
RE: RE: ........................  
sphinx : 6/23/2016 7:22 pm : link
In comment 13006777 speedywheels said:
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In comment 13006774 sphinx said: Quote: Marc Carig Retweeted Alex Nieves
Nothings final. But if theres a reunion, I hear Reyes likely goes to minors to get some time in at third base.


Hmmm. Guess that means Gurriel isn't going to be an option...

Not necessarily. It's my understanding he hasn't played any ball this year. Can't sign for another week and it's going to take some time in the minors to get in shape. Lot can happen in that period.

Already hitting  
Rflairr : 6/23/2016 7:28 pm : link
Balls hard off Harvey
Not pretty, but Harvey gets thru inning  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 7:33 pm : link
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leadoff walk for Conforto  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 7:38 pm : link
Wisler is wild today, 3rd walk already...
Reyes was allowed to play in AAA  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 7:39 pm : link
this year before he was allowed to come back. I think something similar happened to Mejia last year just before he came off suspension. You are allowed two weeks of minor league games or something like that to get in shape. Reyes actually faced the 51s about a week ago.

Supposedly he has looked good and the numbers back that up. He hit .300. wRC+ of 145 in 9 games.
If he does go to AAA  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 7:40 pm : link
Im betting its only for a couple days. He very well might make it to the big club some time during the Nats series.
Who hoo  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 7:41 pm : link
My man De Aza!! lol.
Da Aza knocks in a run!  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 7:43 pm : link
1-0 good guys
Some weak ass bullshit  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 7:53 pm : link
hits there.
Stay hot Cabrera  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 7:58 pm : link
only guy we can say that for right now.
runner on 3rd < 1 out  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 7:59 pm : link
Can walker get him home?
Nice Walker!  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:02 pm : link
Finally.
Wooo! A SF!!!  
speedywheels : 6/23/2016 8:02 pm : link
what is that, #8 on the year?

LOL...
Wow.  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:06 pm : link
De Aza is playing a nice CF.

Nice to see 97 mph from harvey on that as well.
DeAza got to  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 8:20 pm : link
that ball quickly, thought there'd be a play at the plate but boy does he have a weak arm.
Thomas Szapucki  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2016 8:27 pm : link
4 ip 1 h 8 ks at kingsport, 5th round piick last year
LOL...  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 8:28 pm : link
We literally can't get through one game without someone getting hurt. I've never seen anything like it.

We may be seeing Nimmo soon after all.
Those 2 throws by D'Aza last half inning  
timintey : 6/23/2016 8:31 pm : link
were comical.

Now Conforto limping means we'll likely see more of him. Great!!
De Aza has also made two sterling plays  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:32 pm : link
in CF so far and has one of our only RBIs. Not really the game to get on him.
Can our cleanup hitter  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:33 pm : link
get a two out knock? Im going to say no.
Atta boy Walker!  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 8:33 pm : link
Those 2 out RBI's are huge!
ANNNNND  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:34 pm : link
I was wrong. lol. Good job Neil.
RE: Thomas Szapucki  
feelflows : 6/23/2016 8:35 pm : link
In comment 13006851 CMicks3110 said:
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4 ip 1 h 8 ks at kingsport, 5th round piick last year


Struck out the side in the 5th
Thank god.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 8:36 pm : link
Looks like MC was going to bat so hopefully he is okay.
Nice to see some timely hitting for a change...  
Torrag : 6/23/2016 8:38 pm : link
...if Matt can finish strong this will be a nice stretch for him after the slow start.

Nats coming back to Earth and despite playing spotty baseball we're well within striking distance and in position to make them feel some pressure. Something that club hasn't handled well in recent years.
from message board i was following  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2016 8:39 pm : link
"Thomas Szapucki just struck out the side in the second inning of his 2016 debut on 11 pitches while hitting 97."

now has 11 ks in 5 innings
Finally.. an easy inning for Matt.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 8:41 pm : link
Could use a couple more of those.
...  
feelflows : 6/23/2016 8:47 pm : link
NO-HITTER ALERT: #Mets prospect Harol Gonzalez is through six innings for @BKCyclones. https://t.co/xTR0yTUTj6 https://t.co/sBPDx486W9
Oh  
feelflows : 6/23/2016 8:48 pm : link
And they're losing 1-0
Church goes 9 innings.  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:49 pm : link
Harol Gonzales is pitching a no hitter. Szapucki has 11Ks in 5 shutout innings. Pitchers are dealing tonight.
RE: Church goes 9 innings.  
feelflows : 6/23/2016 8:54 pm : link
In comment 13006881 ZGiants98 said:
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Harol Gonzales is pitching a no hitter. Szapucki has 11Ks in 5 shutout innings. Pitchers are dealing tonight.


13ks. He pitched the 6th already.
WTF.  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:58 pm : link
Fucking Markakis and Pierzinksi. Same fucking shit as last game. Gtfo of this inning.
RE: RE: Church goes 9 innings.  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13006889 feelflows said:
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In comment 13006881 ZGiants98 said:


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Harol Gonzales is pitching a no hitter. Szapucki has 11Ks in 5 shutout innings. Pitchers are dealing tonight.



13ks. He pitched the 6th already.


Nice.
RE: from message board i was following  
feelflows : 6/23/2016 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13006871 CMicks3110 said:
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"Thomas Szapucki just struck out the side in the second inning of his 2016 debut on 11 pitches while hitting 97."

now has 11 ks in 5 innings


Is this Szapucki kid really their 17th ranked project???
Geezus  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:02 pm : link
Don't know what to think about Harvey. Those three starts before last game everything was crisp and sharp again. Last two games have been a struggle and it seems like his velocity comes and goes in game. What a fucking frustrating season for him.
RE: RE: from message board i was following  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13006899 feelflows said:
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In comment 13006871 CMicks3110 said:


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"Thomas Szapucki just struck out the side in the second inning of his 2016 debut on 11 pitches while hitting 97."

now has 11 ks in 5 innings



Is this Szapucki kid really their 17th ranked project???


Dude wait until our guys from last year's draft get going. They are just starting. Our lower levels are stacked. Wotell, Szapucki, Simon, Sixto Torres... The Gonzales brothers... now Dunn, Kay and everyone from this draft.
Meanwhile  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:05 pm : link
Flexen and Church are looking really good in St. Lucie. Gsellman, Ynoa in the upper levels likely all make nice back end guys. Montero is flashing velocity again. We have pitching.
And a leadoff walk in the 7th  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:21 pm : link
Here we go
Wow. Wtf  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:24 pm : link
We are going to blow this fucking shit again.
Need a fucking K here  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:26 pm : link
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FUCK YEA  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:27 pm : link
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Fuck man...  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 9:28 pm : link
He's safe.
Not sure  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 9:28 pm : link
he's out.
HOLEY SHIT  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:28 pm : link
No way.
What a throw though.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 9:28 pm : link
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Oh what the fuck  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:28 pm : link
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It's gonna be tough to overturn this though.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 9:28 pm : link
He's definitely in there but it's hard to actually see it.
YES.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 9:30 pm : link
Holy shit.
Holy shit  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:30 pm : link
What a fucking fiasco
WOWZERS!  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:30 pm : link
What a fucking throw and catch. Saved our ass.
Wow, the call goes our way.  
PhiPsi125 : 6/23/2016 9:30 pm : link
Hell of a throw by the kid. Good for him.
Now that's a major league throw  
timintey : 6/23/2016 9:30 pm : link
May have been safe but wow!
Conforto has a sneaky strong arm  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:32 pm : link
I think he would do alright in RF if it ever came down to it.
Wow wow wow  
stillpoe : 6/23/2016 9:32 pm : link
What a throw. Did not think that would even be close. Great block by TDA as well. Wow.
See...  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 9:33 pm : link
To me, there's no doubt he got in there and touched the plate before the tag but there was absolutely no way of proving it because you just couldn't see it from any of the angles.

I'd be pissed if we were the team that got called out there but they did the right thing. If there's no definitive evidence to overturn it, you have to let the call stand.
Yeah I think he tagged his left  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:35 pm : link
leg. It was damn close either way.
Just saw the replay  
bhill410 : 6/23/2016 9:35 pm : link
Did they touch on why that was blocking by tda? That rule is still so touch and go but it looked like he was blocking.
Braves announcers salty as hell about the call  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:36 pm : link
Keep saying d'arnaud was illegally blocking the plate. one guy said mlb in NY should be embarrassed and basically its umps covering for other umps.
Come on Reed and Fam  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:38 pm : link
I really want this first one from these fuckers.
RE: Just saw the replay  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:39 pm : link
In comment 13006951 bhill410 said:
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Did they touch on why that was blocking by tda? That rule is still so touch and go but it looked like he was blocking.


He gave him the bag until the ball touched his glove. He's allowed to block once he has it.
Jesus  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:42 pm : link
Why no Reed for a clean 8th? ugh.
Wow.  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:48 pm : link
Motherfuckers.
Good grief...  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:48 pm : link
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Unbelievable.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 9:48 pm : link
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0-2  
timintey : 6/23/2016 9:49 pm : link
and you throw a pitch like that???? Jesus H Christ!!!
We played with fire this entire game  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:49 pm : link
Fuck fuck fuck.
Reed hasn't been very good lately  
PhiPsi125 : 6/23/2016 9:49 pm : link
Fuck the Braves.
0 - 2, oh well!  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 9:49 pm : link
We're fucked!

Reed has certainly looked human of late.
Just fuckin stick  
spike : 6/23/2016 9:49 pm : link
with Blevins, TC!
These braves are becoming  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:50 pm : link
a real pain in the fucking ass
RE: .  
Shecky : 6/23/2016 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13006727 ZGiants98 said:
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Paul Rosenberg ‏@PaulsRandomness 1h1 hour ago
#BREAKING NEWS: According to a source with knowledge of their plans, the #Mets will sign Jose Reyes by the end of this weekend.


In case you didn't know, often times news gets broken on BBI. It's a fact there are people who lurk here, and follow what DMM says...

Great job Dan
Just about the only thing  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:50 pm : link
we know about Reed that's negative is he likes to come in for a clean inning. Fucking bullshit getting cute.
We are clutching defeat from the jaws of victory  
spike : 6/23/2016 9:50 pm : link
PH, Grandy, Cabrera up next
RE: Just fuckin stick  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13006971 spike said:
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with Blevins, TC!


Collins with his brilliant bullpen management.
we play  
spike : 6/23/2016 9:52 pm : link
down to our opposition
in fact  
spike : 6/23/2016 9:52 pm : link
I nominate Blevins as the 8th inning guy and Reed to 7th
RE: in fact  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:53 pm : link
In comment 13006978 spike said:
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I nominate Blevins as the 8th inning guy and Reed to 7th


After one HR lol?
We need a solo shot  
spike : 6/23/2016 9:53 pm : link
in the next inning!

Is Cespedes available to PH?
TDA!!!  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 9:53 pm : link
Would love to see more of that the rest of the way ...provided he can stay on the field.
RE: RE: in fact  
spike : 6/23/2016 9:53 pm : link
In comment 13006979 ZGiants98 said:
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I nominate Blevins as the 8th inning guy and Reed to 7th



After one HR lol?


Blevins has been unbelievable this season
I still can't get over that 0-2 pitch  
timintey : 6/23/2016 9:54 pm : link
Complete meatball. Waist high. Are you kidding me???
So let's see  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:55 pm : link
TDA has blocked and tagged out a huge runner at home... he's framed and stolen a bunch of pitches, and now gunned down a runner.

His defense is looking pretty good tonight. Now he needs to get the bat going.

Fuck this game sucks though.
RE: RE: RE: in fact  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13006983 spike said:
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I nominate Blevins as the 8th inning guy and Reed to 7th



After one HR lol?



Blevins has been unbelievable this season


Blevins has been our LOOGY. He rarely ever even pitches a full inning. Until a week ago, Henderson pitched the 7th and Reed had been one of the best setup men in baseball. He's accumulated almost an entire win of fWAR not even at the halfway mark. That's positively incredible for a reliever.
Come on Reynolds  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 9:59 pm : link
Steal 2B.
go Reynolds  
spike : 6/23/2016 9:59 pm : link

he might be our best pinch hitter
These are the kinds  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 10:05 pm : link
of games they'll be playing and if they're not letter perfect this can be the result any given game. Their margin for error is so slim.
Well that was fucking horseshit  
EJV79 : 6/23/2016 10:06 pm : link
.
BRUTAL LOSS  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:06 pm : link
Im really fucking starting to hate this Braves team.
not enough offense  
spike : 6/23/2016 10:07 pm : link
to build up a buffer.
Really unbelievable man.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 10:10 pm : link
This team just can't get out of its own damn way. Embarrassing loss.
Reed actually had stranded  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:10 pm : link
10 of 1 1 before that too. Blevins can't come in and allow a single to a lefty. He just can't. Ugh. Just another loss.
RE: BRUTAL LOSS  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13007006 ZGiants98 said:
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Im really fucking starting to hate this Braves team.


It's the other team that your anger should be directed toward. The Braves are only taking what they're given.
Even splitting this series is unacceptable.  
arcarsenal : 6/23/2016 10:11 pm : link
We'd better fucking win the next 3.
Well, TdA still sucks at hitting  
PhiPsi125 : 6/23/2016 10:14 pm : link
6 out of the 9 batters in our lineup were batting .228 or less. Let that sink in for a second.

No end in sight.
RE: RE: BRUTAL LOSS  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:19 pm : link
In comment 13007015 Stufftherun said:
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Im really fucking starting to hate this Braves team.



It's the other team that your anger should be directed toward. The Braves are only taking what they're given.


Taking what their given? The Mets actually played a real crisp game today. They made a number of excellent defensive plays in the field. They actually got runners in scoring position and were able to hit sac flys, ect. The things everyone has been screaming for. We had the lead. If Collins just goes to Reed in the 8th (who's been one of the best setup men in the game this year) its likely over. Even so, Reed doesn't suck and 99 times out of 100 the Braves dont hit a HR there. Its not like we bad news bears'd our way to a loss.
RE: Well, TdA still sucks at hitting  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13007017 PhiPsi125 said:
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6 out of the 9 batters in our lineup were batting .228 or less. Let that sink in for a second.

No end in sight.


TDA has played in 14 games this year. FOURTEEN. But yes... most of our lineup sucks.
And Im sorry  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:25 pm : link
but these Braves are a pesky fucking team. They also happen to have a horseshoe up their ass missing a suddenly hot Cespedes and Thor this series. Its really not an excuse. We should beat them anyway. But they appear to have some fight and our lineup is a walking morgue without Ces.
Sorry guys... just pissed  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:29 pm : link
Certainly not trying to attack anyone. More just venting. lol. Have a goodnight.
RE: RE: RE: BRUTAL LOSS  
Stufftherun : 6/23/2016 10:30 pm : link
In comment 13007024 ZGiants98 said:
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Im really fucking starting to hate this Braves team.



It's the other team that your anger should be directed toward. The Braves are only taking what they're given.



Taking what their given? The Mets actually played a real crisp game today. They made a number of excellent defensive plays in the field. They actually got runners in scoring position and were able to hit sac flys, ect. The things everyone has been screaming for. We had the lead. If Collins just goes to Reed in the 8th (who's been one of the best setup men in the game this year) its likely over. Even so, Reed doesn't suck and 99 times out of 100 the Braves dont hit a HR there. Its not like we bad news bears'd our way to a loss.


Yes, take what they're given, it's not a new concept. 0 - 2 count and you throw a pitch like that?! Yeah, I'd say that was a gift, mistake or whatever you want to call it but it falls under "given".
When are we having a lineup shakeup already  
Tanker20 : 6/23/2016 10:30 pm : link
this is getting so old

I love Conforto but the man needs to go to AAA.

Bring up Nimmo, Herrerra, Taijeron, freaking ANYONE. (except Campbell and Plawecki..which will probably literally be the next two to come up).

Literally, I look forward to at bats by Cabrera and Loney at this point. sad.
RE: RE: RE: RE: BRUTAL LOSS  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:35 pm : link
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Im really fucking starting to hate this Braves team.



It's the other team that your anger should be directed toward. The Braves are only taking what they're given.



Taking what their given? The Mets actually played a real crisp game today. They made a number of excellent defensive plays in the field. They actually got runners in scoring position and were able to hit sac flys, ect. The things everyone has been screaming for. We had the lead. If Collins just goes to Reed in the 8th (who's been one of the best setup men in the game this year) its likely over. Even so, Reed doesn't suck and 99 times out of 100 the Braves dont hit a HR there. Its not like we bad news bears'd our way to a loss.



Yes, take what they're given, it's not a new concept. 0 - 2 count and you throw a pitch like that?! Yeah, I'd say that was a gift, mistake or whatever you want to call it but it falls under "given".


Yes he made one mistake. Compounded by Blevins not getting out the lefty. All pitchers make mistakes though. Usually every game. Its up to the hitter to capitalize. Good job Braves. They showed fight all night.
RE: When are we having a lineup shakeup already  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:36 pm : link
In comment 13007035 Tanker20 said:
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this is getting so old

I love Conforto but the man needs to go to AAA.

Bring up Nimmo, Herrerra, Taijeron, freaking ANYONE. (except Campbell and Plawecki..which will probably literally be the next two to come up).

Literally, I look forward to at bats by Cabrera and Loney at this point. sad.


Was just going to say it. We can't go on with Conforto much longer. He is under everything. Rushing everything. He needs to go to Vegas in the worst way possible. Swap him with Nimmo. Enough already. Sign Reyes. Stick him at 3B. Take a long hard look at Gurriel.
RE: When are we having a lineup shakeup already  
MetsAreBack : 6/23/2016 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13007035 Tanker20 said:
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this is getting so old

I love Conforto but the man needs to go to AAA.

Bring up Nimmo, Herrerra, Taijeron, freaking ANYONE. (except Campbell and Plawecki..which will probably literally be the next two to come up).

Literally, I look forward to at bats by Cabrera and Loney at this point. sad.


I see this Conforto opinion a lot lately and he's struggled of late but he's still having a better year than granderson and he'd certainly be a better bench/platoon option than de aza. So I don't see how sending him down is a positive.

All for bringing Nimmo up if cespedes needs two weeks off ... And Saturday / Reyes needs to happen. Jose Jose Jose .......... Jose... Jose.....
He's only barely having a better season  
ZGiants98 : 6/23/2016 10:48 pm : link
because of an insane April. His numbers in May/June are amongst the worst in the game. He has been dreadful. To me its really just a timing thing/confidence thing too. He'll be ok but he needs to get off the major league team and clear his head. What are we going to do with Granderson anyway? Cut him? He's barely hanging around league average. Should be much better but he's ok-ish.

To me Conforto for Nimmo is an easy simple switch for a while.
1 year ago  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2016 10:51 pm : link
today the Mets were .500 (36 - 36) in the midst of a 3 - 7 last ten games and 2.5 games behind WAS.

today they are 5 games over .500 (38 - 33) and 4 games back

so yeah, they're further back in the race, but still playing better than a year ago in terms of W/L.

RE: RE: When are we having a lineup shakeup already  
Tanker20 : 6/23/2016 11:00 pm : link
In comment 13007050 MetsAreBack said:
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this is getting so old

I love Conforto but the man needs to go to AAA.

Bring up Nimmo, Herrerra, Taijeron, freaking ANYONE. (except Campbell and Plawecki..which will probably literally be the next two to come up).

Literally, I look forward to at bats by Cabrera and Loney at this point. sad.



I see this Conforto opinion a lot lately and he's struggled of late but he's still having a better year than granderson and he'd certainly be a better bench/platoon option than de aza. So I don't see how sending him down is a positive.

All for bringing Nimmo up if cespedes needs two weeks off ... And Saturday / Reyes needs to happen. Jose Jose Jose .......... Jose... Jose.....


We need Conforto to get back in a groove and be a good everyday player. Being a bench player isn't going to do anything except prolong his coldness
RE: Well, TdA still sucks at hitting  
Vanzetti : 6/23/2016 11:54 pm : link
In comment 13007017 PhiPsi125 said:
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6 out of the 9 batters in our lineup were batting .228 or less. Let that sink in for a second.

No end in sight.


You can't win with a lineup with batting averages like that. Just can't. Then throw in that the guy with the highest average is Loney, someone they basically reclaimed from the scrap heap. And second highest average is Mark Reynolds.

Brutal. Just brutal.
RE: 1 year ago  
Stufftherun : 6/24/2016 8:00 am : link
In comment 13007058 pjcas18 said:
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today the Mets were .500 (36 - 36) in the midst of a 3 - 7 last ten games and 2.5 games behind WAS.

today they are 5 games over .500 (38 - 33) and 4 games back

so yeah, they're further back in the race, but still playing better than a year ago in terms of W/L.


Comparing one season to the next is an exercise in futility. One has nothing to do with the other, circumstances are different and not just for the Mets but for every major league team.
Yet  
Shecky : 6/24/2016 8:32 am : link
Still only 4 out
.  
arcarsenal : 6/24/2016 8:36 am : link
Take the next 3 in ATL and then take 2 of 3 from the Nats. Probably only be 2 back by the middle of next week.

....RIGHT?
This coffee right now though....  
GiantFilthy : 6/24/2016 8:51 am : link
RE: RE: When are we having a lineup shakeup already  
spike : 6/24/2016 9:03 am : link
In comment 13007044 ZGiants98 said:
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this is getting so old

I love Conforto but the man needs to go to AAA.

Bring up Nimmo, Herrerra, Taijeron, freaking ANYONE. (except Campbell and Plawecki..which will probably literally be the next two to come up).

Literally, I look forward to at bats by Cabrera and Loney at this point. sad.



Was just going to say it. We can't go on with Conforto much longer. He is under everything. Rushing everything. He needs to go to Vegas in the worst way possible. Swap him with Nimmo. Enough already. Sign Reyes. Stick him at 3B. Take a long hard look at Gurriel.


Agreed completely. Conforto is overmatched right now
.  
arcarsenal : 6/24/2016 9:11 am : link
In the month of June (19 G, 57 AB), Conforto is hitting .123 with 20 K's, 4 walks, 1 double, 2 HR and a .420 OPS.

He's been horrid. I love the kid and think he's going to be a great hitter but he's not above being sent down for a couple weeks. See what Nimmo can do. Swap them and let BN play LF every day for a bit. We can't keep giving away all these outs. Conforto needs to work his way out of this in Vegas.
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