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NFT: Mets Minors 6/24/2016- More like K-pucki!

DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 9:42 am
Mets sign former SJU pitcher/graduate student Joe Napolitano, he was undrafted
AAA- Gorski
AA- Jannis
A+ Conlon (A+ debut)
A Ingram
BK TBD
Kingsport Humphreys
DSL1
DSL2


AAA
Cecchini 1-4 (error)
Nimmo 2-5
Herrera 1-5
Plawecki 0-3, 2 BB
Ynoa 6.2 innings 4 hits 2 runs 2 walks 8 k's
Lugo 1 inning 4 hits 3 ER 0 walks 2 k's
Smoker 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 1 k


AA (Rosario added)
Smith 0-4, K (not to incur the wrath of PJ but I have to repeat, Smith has been a stone cold turd this season. Still young but jeez)
Taylor 2 innings 4 hits 3 runs 2 walks 2 k's


A+
Becerra 1-4, 2 k's
Guillorme 2-4, 2b
Nido 3-3, BB (quietly a nice little breakout)
Church complete game 8 hits 3 runs 1 walk 4 k's


A
Kaczmarski 1-4, 2b
Winningham 1-4, 2b, K
Mazeika 1-4 K (both he and Kaczmarski the overage A ball darlings from last year have been disappointing)
Wilson 0-3, BB, K
Shaw 5 innings 8 hits 5 runs 2 walks 7 k's
Montgomery 2 innings 1 hit 1 run 0 walks 3 k's


BK
H. Gonzalez 6.2 innings 1 hit 3 runs 3 walks 5 k's
Henry 1.1 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's
Cone 0-5
Woodmansee 2-4
Sanchez 2-4, K
Jabs 2-4
Berrios 1-4, K (has been comically horrible very early on)
Zanon 0-3, BB, 2 k's

Kingsport
Szapucki 6 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 13 k's (Rivera noted before the game that Szapucki touched 97 and sat mid 90's. Grain of salt from a players manager but damn son)
Torres 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's
Holderman 0.2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 1 k
Wolf 0-1, 3 BB
Cespedes 0-4, 2 k's
Ramirez 0-3, BB, 2 k's (repeating the level)



DSL2
Gimenez 2-3, BB, SB
Valdez 2-2, 2 BB
De Oleo 1-1, HR

DSL1

Guerrero 3-4, 2b, BB
Fermin 1-3, 2BB, K, SB
Garcia 2-2, 2 BB
Explain  
feelflows : 6/24/2016 9:45 am : link
A+ pitching. Are we more encouraged with low BB or high Ks?
Plawecki  
debo_GIANTS : 6/24/2016 9:45 am : link
picking up right were he left off, picking up another O-ffer.
RE: Explain  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 9:47 am : link
In comment 13007425 feelflows said:
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A+ pitching. Are we more encouraged with low BB or high Ks?


Andrew Church? I mean it would be nice to see more k's but he was recently promoted so the performance is impressive as it is. He will have to improve upon 20.2 innings 12 k's to really be on the radar for me. 8 walks 12 k's obviously isn't very good.
Ks and BB  
Shecky : 6/24/2016 10:00 am : link
Most young pitchers have to learn to control the ball better. And it is a universal truth that it can be taught, and it almost always improves with age. Most pitchers walk less batters as they age.

Very very very few pitchers learn to miss bats as they age though. A low K rate in the minors almost always leads to a pitcher not making it in the bigs. Where as walk rate, there are tons of extremely successful pro pitchers who have overcome that.
RE: Ks and BB  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 10:07 am : link
In comment 13007474 Shecky said:
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Most young pitchers have to learn to control the ball better. And it is a universal truth that it can be taught, and it almost always improves with age. Most pitchers walk less batters as they age.

Very very very few pitchers learn to miss bats as they age though. A low K rate in the minors almost always leads to a pitcher not making it in the bigs. Where as walk rate, there are tons of extremely successful pro pitchers who have overcome that.


Agreed with every word. I'll take the arm who misses bats but also misses the plate vs. the guy who has better command but doesn't miss bats. There will always be guys who get by on command etc but generally if you can't miss bats in the minors (low minors in fact) you aren't going to make it.
RE: Explain  
Deej : 6/24/2016 10:14 am : link
In comment 13007425 feelflows said:
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A+ pitching. Are we more encouraged with low BB or high Ks?


Maybe I misunderstand the question, but "A+" in the original post refers to high A ball, not an evaluation of performance.
Cecchini's days without workplace incident  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 6/24/2016 10:14 am : link
resets to 0.
RE: RE: Explain  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 10:18 am : link
In comment 13007511 Deej said:
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In comment 13007425 feelflows said:


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A+ pitching. Are we more encouraged with low BB or high Ks?



Maybe I misunderstand the question, but "A+" in the original post refers to high A ball, not an evaluation of performance.


Ah sorry. I wasn't clear what the question was either. St. Lucie is in the FSL which is considered A+ level, rookie, short season A, full season A, A+, AA, AAA
RE: Cecchini's days without workplace incident  
ZGiants98 : 6/24/2016 11:41 am : link
In comment 13007512 NewFakeDannyHeep said:
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resets to 0.


Lol. True.
Worth mentioning  
ZGiants98 : 6/24/2016 12:11 pm : link
Rosario showed up to the game mid game in Bing and hit a pinch hit double. Also worth mentioning Gonzales had a no-hitter after 6 innings.
Rivera  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 12:22 pm : link
calls Szapucki "our #1 for a reason" so I guess he's ahead of Wotell and Simon stuff wise. No real surprise.
Kenny  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 12:26 pm : link
Hernandez is at 3b today. Hopefully not permanent otherwise yuck
I thought I remembered  
ZGiants98 : 6/24/2016 12:29 pm : link
Reading Hernandez was too big for SS long term. Also that he had a real strong arm that would work well at 3b. Not surprised at all if that's the direction they are going.
RE: I thought I remembered  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 12:31 pm : link
In comment 13007743 ZGiants98 said:
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Reading Hernandez was too big for SS long term. Also that he had a real strong arm that would work well at 3b. Not surprised at all if that's the direction they are going.


They generally NEVER move players off of SS at the lower levels unless they are absolutely awful. Wilmer was there even at his plumpest. Hernandez must have looked pathetic over there.
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 12:32 pm : link
Ranfy Adon - CF
Anthony Dirocie - RF
Kenny Hernandez - 3B
Kenneth Bautista - DH
Wagner Lagrange - LF
Juan Uriarte - C
Luis Montero - 1B
Rigoberto Terrazas -SS
Oliver Pascual - 2B

Aneury Olivo on the mound for his stateside debut.
Eh.  
ZGiants98 : 6/24/2016 12:33 pm : link
He's still 17. If they see him as a 3B so be it IMO. It's not like we need another low level SS prospect.
Dave  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 12:40 pm : link
Cameron said he'd max out at 30-35 million guaranteed for Gurriel but doesn't discount the "Dodgers factor". Thinks he could get as much as 60.
I'm all in for 30-35  
ZGiants98 : 6/24/2016 12:41 pm : link
60 is ridiculous.
If  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 12:47 pm : link
Bowden is right about his workout with the Dodgers he's going to get more than 30 I'm sure. "Extremely impressive", they spend like it's going out of style.
RE: If  
ZGiants98 : 6/24/2016 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13007778 DanMetroMan said:
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Bowden is right about his workout with the Dodgers he's going to get more than 30 I'm sure. "Extremely impressive", they spend like it's going out of style.


Sucks but probably true.
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 1:03 pm : link
Great example of Gamboa's hyperbole. Claimed Alonso's final homer "measured 500 feet"... actual measurement 429 still a bomb tho #Mets
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2016 3:15 pm : link
like Harol Gonzalez is more "next Gee" than "next Harvey"

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