If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. My Final 53.

The thing that jumps out at me though is how thin the Giants are at DE if Double O does not step up to the plate.

Who is both FS and Slot CB in a pinch and a great ST guy?

at 4th DT Too.

In comment 13008571 wgenesis123 said:

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The thing that jumps out at me though is how thin the Giants are at DE if Double O does not step up to the plate.

Lewis...was a tough guy to cut, but I went with two bigger receivers in Davis and Powe not just for their size, but for their special teams ability.

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Who is both FS and Slot CB in a pinch and a great ST guy?

M. Thompson is also a FS and slot CB, in fact the Giants had him playing in the slot early on in OTAs. Both he and Jackson, to me, are basically the same guy, so I went with the guy who's a little younger, a little more athletic, and whose injury history isn't as lengthy.

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at 4th DT Too.

After three knee surgeries (and at least one failed physical), I'll take my chances with Lewis.

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In comment 13008571 wgenesis123 said: Quote: The thing that jumps out at me though is how thin the Giants are at DE if Double O does not step up to the plate. Lewis...was a tough guy to cut, but I went with two bigger receivers in Davis and Powe not just for their size, but for their special teams ability.

let me add that keeping Lewis and dropping one O-Lineman came down to a virtual coin flip.

I think that's the most reasonable 53 prediction I've seen. 2 QBs, 4 RBs, etc, the numbers make sense. I agree that some of the final choices (i.e. Lewis vs. Powe, Nix vs. Lewis) had to be tough calls.

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at 4th DT Too.

Don't agree with that statement he didn't show much and is limited plus knee issues. I'll go with Lewis as well

Adrien Robinson
Markus Kuhn
Mark Herzlich
Jayron Hosley

Seems reasonable based on where things stand right now.

Of the UDFAs and hes flashed enough that OBJ and Eli have really taken notice. He also was given the most money to come here. If we keep 6 WRs he very likely makes it before Powe. Powe makes it only if Davis doesnt or we keep 7.

doesnt justify nine OL

I think Lance Zierlein summed him up best when he wrote:

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While Lewis produced some eye-­popping deep ball numbers, he's not a true vertical receiver in terms of speed and ball skills. His build­up speed can get him past cornerbacks looking to squat on Bowling Green's underneath work, but he could find vertical success in the NFL to be exceptionally challenging due to his lack of speed and overall traits.

Basically...he isn't very big, he isn't very fast, and his hands are so-so.

In comment 13008653 XBRONX said:

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doesnt justify nine OL

Maybe not, but the Giants have kept nine OL for the past three years, and I figure it's a good bet that they'll keep nine this year, too.

Is more art than science for sure. But I see some serious game speed with this kid. I think he is a baller. I felt the same thing about Cruz when he burst on the scene. Eli and OBJ have certainly taken notice. The 3 'unproven' guys you hear the most glowing reports about across the board are Shepard, Lewis, and Davis.

Have you seen some of the 'hands' plays hes made at BG? That is not an accurate assessment.

Feel free to include Lewis when you do your own Final 53. You simply won't convince me to include him in mine.

Just because Powe is more likely to slip through waivers to the PS, although my 1st bet on a WR for the PS is easily Dable.

Unless Bennet Jackson gets reinjured, he'll make the team over Justin Currie and Tremaine Jacobs both. In fact, I'd subtract both Currie and Jacobs and replace them with Jackson and Deayon.

I have images of Deayon becoming a gunner and tackling punt returners by their ankles like a schnauzer attacking a bear... The opponents trying to block Deayon won't even see him get by them.

Lastly, none of us have a clue re the depth guys on the OL past Gettis and Hart, but I heard from someone at Giants.com (forget whom) say the brass like the Canadian Jones to be their primary back up OC.

Is probably right there with Lewis for camp suprises. He is also a gamer. Can his body size withstand NFL punishment? IF so he is a very strong bet to make the team too.

A 6th round pick in 2014 who hasn't made it out of camp healthy in two years. He makes Cooper Taylor look like Iron Man.

Deayon's an interesting kid. He could stick as the 5th CB, knocking either Jacobs or Wade off of the roster, which wouldn't bother me all that much.

I think there will be some Vets added ... But if not the only only change I would make is adding White to the WR's.

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A 6th round pick in 2014 who hasn't made it out of camp healthy in two years. He makes Cooper Taylor look like Iron Man. Deayon's an interesting kid. He could stick as the 5th CB, knocking either Jacobs or Wade off of the roster, which wouldn't bother me all that much.

Before his injury last year Jackson had climbed the depth chart at FS to #1 and Spags like him, liked his athleticism. He was known as a great STs player at ND and logged a lot of STs snaps there over 4 years.

He's a recent convert to DB too so is seen as having a lot of upside. Before converting to DB at ND he was a WR. So you might guess he has some ball skills too.

and possibly some more free agents signed(at FS, I hope), and the preseason will weed out some of the wannabees, but for the most part, that looks like the roster.....

A guy who can play some CB against bigger receivers, plus be a presence at FS who smart, versatile and able to cover the slot receiver as a nickel. Same with M.Thompson, this kind of player is very useful in todays NFL. These guys are some of your better athletes in the secondary. I look at Apple the same way because while I feel he will be a great CB in a year or two, if he didn't work out at CB he could always put on some muscle and play FS in this same kind of role. You need to have smart, versatile athletes on defense, especially in the secondary.

In comment 13008730 BlueLou said:

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In comment 13008694 Klaatu said: Quote: A 6th round pick in 2014 who hasn't made it out of camp healthy in two years. He makes Cooper Taylor look like Iron Man. Deayon's an interesting kid. He could stick as the 5th CB, knocking either Jacobs or Wade off of the roster, which wouldn't bother me all that much. Before his injury last year Jackson had climbed the depth chart at FS to #1...

Right...after Thompson, Taylor, and Berhe were all sidelined by injury. Quite the accomplishment.

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He's a recent convert to DB too so is seen as having a lot of upside. Before converting to DB at ND he was a WR. So you might guess he has some ball skills too.

I can't guess anything about the guy. He's barely seen the field in two years.

good. Some thoughts:

Lewis over Powe, but I wouldn’t be surprised if both make it, and the Giants therefore carry 7 WRs.

I still don’t see the harm in going with 8 OL, and stashing one on the PS. After the first six, they’re pretty much all the same. I know this is a minority position.

Think Donte Deayon makes it over Jacobs. Remember that he has some PR ability. Wade might also not make it, although that is a tougher cut.

I have no problems with you picking Currie over Jackson. I think Jackson has the edge, but his injuries have unfortunately been severe.

Well done. Good job.

We can all debate the bottom of the roster but preseason injuries may determine who ultimately makes the team.

Powe is a Guy I like but I think your a bit harsh on Lewis
there has been plenty of NFL above average starters size
speed ration doesn't knock your socks off but I think he is
a crafty tough kid that can surprise and blow by a few people . Unless Larry Donnel isn't healthy he sticks .
I don't think M Thompson makes the squad . Not too sure on
the last DT I think its gonna be a close call but hard to
say at this point . Thought Hughes showed some toughness .
But Great Job looks solid to me .

If Bennett Jackson has a healthy camp, I think he makes the roster. But if he misses time with bumps and bruises, they won't be patient with him.

And I can't picture Williams outperforming Darkwa if both have healthy camps, but Darkwa is another who can't seem to take a licking and keep on ticking. And they won't be patient.

And I think Donnell is sure to make the roster with healthy camp. He is the only veteran at the position. The only way a healthy Donnell doesn't make the roster is if they view Will Johnson more as a TE/H-back than a FB.

And I think 7 LB's make the final roster assuming the obvious six make it through camp healthy. The 7th will likely be Herzlich, but he could lose out to either Bars or Shephard. The key with Herzlich is his reliability on special teams and the fact that his best position is strongside LB and the assumed starter there, Kennard, has had trouble staying healthy. Meanwhile, Thomas and Casillas are both weakside LBs and Robinson, Brinkley, and Goodson are all Mikes. So it behooves the Giants to keep a 7th LB who is suited to the strongside.

At the end of the day--or should I say at the end of camp--it will be injuries which determine the bottom of the roster.

Although it's obviously a cause for concern. My issue is that while he's made some big catches for us, and he put up pretty good numbers in 2014, I believe his negatives far outweigh his positives. His blocking is sub-par, he gives you next to nothing in YAC, and his ball-security has become a running - or should I say tumbling- joke.

On a team bereft of talent at TE, he's your starter (in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king), but I think that a healthy LaCosse and a motivated Adams could give him a real run for his money this summer. We shall see.