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NFT: Kidney Stones...what to do?

OBJXIII : 6/25/2016 2:17 pm
So I'm pretty sure I may have kidney stones. About a week ago I had some intense pain in my lower back that seems to be either a nerve issue or organ, not muscle. It was unlike any other type of pain I've felt. Kind of like having the wind knocked out of you but also with needles being inserted deep inside me.

Anyways the same type of pain woke me up this morning and again lasted about an hour, and has since resided.

It seems to happen about a day or two after I drink. ( not a big drinker btw, probably had about 4 beers each time)

So yes I know spare me the "go to the doctor if you're worried about it", I'm just wondering who else has dealt with them and what did you have to do to get it over with? I feel like it's gonna come back again soon.
Rapaflo  
Giants2012 : 6/25/2016 2:19 pm : link
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Go get a CT scan or a sonogram to confirm you have them.  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 2:20 pm : link
Then go to a nephrologist or a urologist and see what the options are. They can zap them so they become smaller and don't hurt (at least not a lot) when you pass them.

I've had 4 kidney stones for like 10 years now, but I never passed them. They're just sitting dormant in my kidneys.
Thanks anakim  
OBJXIII : 6/25/2016 2:29 pm : link
I was just wondering if this is something I have to wait out and piss out or go to the doc for help.
RE: Thanks anakim  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13009000 OBJXIII said:
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I was just wondering if this is something I have to wait out and piss out or go to the doc for help.


Well you don't even know that you have it so I would go to the doctor just to confirm that you do. You may be just having back problems.
I've had several over the years  
Bill L : 6/25/2016 2:37 pm : link
I think if you have one, you might be prone to more. Usually, besides the pain, I piss wine...Merlot down to rose...for a few days.

I'd see a urologist but if they don't pass quick you could have them for a while and that ain't fun. My last time it was over a month because I had to not only wait for an appointment, but apparently their practice only has one ultrasound machine (to blast the stone to smithereens) that rotates around town from site to site and I had to wait until it got back to where I was. They did offer to stick something up my privates to extract it but for some reason the pain of the stone sounded more appealing.

Anyways, for my first one I ended up in the ER and after they watched it for a while, they called me a big baby under their breath (I'm sure) and sent me away with a Flomax Rx. I think the Flomax helped it to pass. They also said to drink a ton in general, but also to drink a lot of Newmans Own Lemonade (of all things). You might try the last and see if it helps.
RE: I've had several over the years  
Giants2012 : 6/25/2016 2:42 pm : link
In comment 13009013 Bill L said:
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, they called me a big baby under their breath (I'm sure) and sent me away with a Flomax Rx. I think the Flomax helped it to pass. .


Rapaflo is 162 times more selective for the A1 receptor than Flomax. Likely a better option than going straight for lithotripsy and blasting them away.
This was like 10 years ago.  
Bill L : 6/25/2016 2:44 pm : link
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Unfortunately, I've had experience  
mavric : 6/25/2016 2:48 pm : link
The pain is sorta like an ice pick stuck in your lower back by one of your kidneys. Think of sand being stuck in a sponge and one day, one of those grains of sands decided it's going to pass through the sponge. In order to do so, it has to cut it's own path....hence, the reason kidney stones are so painful. Once the stone gets to the bladder and then the urethra, the pain is gone.

For me - it was go to the emergency room where I was hooked up to an IV while getting a morphine drip until the stone(s) passed. It took a couple of days. Afterwards, I went through the "shock wave lithotripsy" to smash up all the other stones in my kidney. Unfortunately, once a stone is on the move, it's too late to use lithotripsy to break it up. It's only for future stones. And virtually every adult has kidney stones - they just don't know it until one of them starts to move and cuts a path through your kidney. Kidney stones are basically calcium buildup and in most cases, they are very small and never move. But once one starts to move, it is one of the most painful experiences one can go through. I used to think the people who complained was because of the stone passing through your dopper-dangler. Heck - that's nothing. The stones aren't usually any bigger than no.9 birdshot. It only hurts as it makes its way through your kidney and it is literally like a knife or an ice pick stuck in your lower back on one side or the other.

My advice: if it is a stone passing, go to the ER and get hooked up to a morphine drip
Drink a lot of water  
Vanzetti : 6/25/2016 2:51 pm : link
and take aspirin and/or ibuprofen (anti-inflamatory. very important)


also, sit down when you pee

if they don't pass and the pain gets steady, you should go see a doctor. you don't want to get a blockage or infection.
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AcidTest : 6/25/2016 3:25 pm : link
am sorry for your pain. Prayers for a full and complete recovery. Best wishes.
Kidney stone pain is usually lower abdominal  
micky : 6/25/2016 3:55 pm : link
And is like a gas pain that won't subside. gets worse and worse as it passes from kidney into urethra.

I've had several since 94' at least now I know the cause of mine..which is incurable

Hope you don't have them it's very painful to say the least
Kidney stone pain is usually lower abdominal  
micky : 6/25/2016 3:56 pm : link
And is like a gas pain that won't subside. gets worse and worse as it passes from kidney into urethra.

I've had several since 94' at least now I know the cause of mine..which is incurable

Hope you don't have them it's very painful to say the least
Some advice  
AP in Halfmoon : 6/25/2016 4:40 pm : link
Whatever you do, don't see a doctor. You'll learn everything you need to know on BBI.
RE: Unfortunately, I've had experience  
ctc in ftmyers : 6/25/2016 5:14 pm : link
In comment 13009032 mavric said:
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The pain is sorta like an ice pick stuck in your lower back by one of your kidneys. Think of sand being stuck in a sponge and one day, one of those grains of sands decided it's going to pass through the sponge. In order to do so, it has to cut it's own path....hence, the reason kidney stones are so painful. Once the stone gets to the bladder and then the urethra, the pain is gone.

For me - it was go to the emergency room where I was hooked up to an IV while getting a morphine drip until the stone(s) passed. It took a couple of days. Afterwards, I went through the "shock wave lithotripsy" to smash up all the other stones in my kidney. Unfortunately, once a stone is on the move, it's too late to use lithotripsy to break it up. It's only for future stones. And virtually every adult has kidney stones - they just don't know it until one of them starts to move and cuts a path through your kidney. Kidney stones are basically calcium buildup and in most cases, they are very small and never move. But once one starts to move, it is one of the most painful experiences one can go through. I used to think the people who complained was because of the stone passing through your dopper-dangler. Heck - that's nothing. The stones aren't usually any bigger than no.9 birdshot. It only hurts as it makes its way through your kidney and it is literally like a knife or an ice pick stuck in your lower back on one side or the other.

My advice: if it is a stone passing, go to the ER and get hooked up to a morphine drip


This.

Years ago got called out to an officer in distress. He was on the hood of his car in intense pain. No doubt it was a kidney stone. Said to the other cops there take all his weapons and I mean all. He's getting morphine. Never had one but treated a few patients in the field. They are not happy people. I know I never want the experience.
Think I've passed 14 in the last 5 years...  
beechbouy : 6/25/2016 5:53 pm : link
so far only one this year. I remember while having a stent removed after one of my YAG laser lithotripsy surgeries(I've had two such procedures)the nurse was telling me how it's believed that the only thing more painful than passing a stone is having a baby - but she added that's she's done both and that kidney stones were way worse!

The various synthetic opiates prescribed by my urologist during the numerous attacks had virtually no impact on the pain.

In an attempt to figure out why I've developed so many stones, I had to collect my urine for 48 hours and get a couple of blood tests. The doctor's recommendation after the tests results? "Drink more water."
Treatment  
Percy : 6/25/2016 7:11 pm : link
If you have 'em, see if you can be treated with ESWL (sound waves that break them up). There are other alternatives. Go to a big-time hospital for treatment, not some local emergency room. Sorry you're in this situation.
Drink lots of water with lemon in it  
Jay in Toronto : 6/25/2016 7:25 pm : link
(assuming you have the most common type). A lot depends on where the stones are.

As far as I know, the only totally definitive analysis is via a CATSCAN.
When the pain becomes so  
Giants_ROK : 6/25/2016 8:09 pm : link
unbearable that you have to drive yourself to the hospital at 4 AM, you've got 'em.

I had the same symptoms as you about 15 years ago, lived with it for a week. When the pain was so bad that I couldn't think, off to the ER.

This was in July. I passed them in February the next year. They sat there, dormant for 7 months. You'll know when you pass them.

Stones. Good luck, but see a doctor.

Women I know who have had stones and have given birth say they'd rather have another baby.
This is how I beat kidney Stone  
Giants : 6/27/2016 9:59 am : link
I had my first kidney stone four months ago.I heard all the stories how bad it could be.So I started Googling to see what I could do.I changed how I ate. I started drinking one shot of apple cider vinegar with two shots of water four times a day.I also would drink Lemon juice with water all day long. I also bought Renavive. After three weeks my pain started going away.Four weeks later I could not feel anything.I had ultrasound done. There is no signs of kidney stone
the best advice I've gotten on this  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/27/2016 12:33 pm : link
is eat less red meat, less salt and drink 2 litres of water a day -- it woiks -- I've passed a number of stones

Turadol also works wonders - if you see the doctor a shot of turadol will take the pain away for at least two days

opiates are good for relaxing yourself enough to pass the stone when they are far down the chute as well
see a urologist  
spike : 6/27/2016 1:29 pm : link
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RE: the best advice I've gotten on this  
Giants2012 : 6/27/2016 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13010993 gidiefor said:
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Turadol also works wonders - if you see the doctor a shot of turadol will take the pain away for at least two days



Toradol IM ;).

It's basically prescription Advil (ketorolac). NFL players like Strahan have called it "Vitamin T". Does slow the kidneys down so it's crazy NFL players take a shot and play football.

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