Oklahoma Citys Kevin Durant is the top free agent on the market, and has been in New York since last week, declining multiple interview requests by The Post on Sunday. And while the Knicks havent yet landed a sit-down with Durant and are believed to be long shots at best to sign him this summer, a recent report claims that they have at least given themselves an opportunity to sign the star.
While the Oklahoman had recently broken down the contenders for Durants services and didnt even put the Knicks on the list ranking them behind the delusional pipe-dreamers category USA Today reported Saturday night that the deal for Derrick Rose and development of Kristaps Porzingis have led to Durant seeing the Knicks in a more favorable light. |
http://nypost.com/2016/06/26/kevin-durant-rethinking-knicks-after-derrick-rose-trade-report/
On the other hand the Knicks have NOT been granted a meeting yet per Ian Begley
Ian Begley
ESPN Staff Writer
No meeting has been scheduled - or agreed to - between the Knicks and Kevin Durant at this point, sources say. The Knicks are optimistic that they'll ultimately get consideration from Durant but they were not among the initial group of teams with whom Durant agreed to meet. The Golden State Warriors, San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder are the first known teams to secure a meeting with Durant, according to ESPN's Marc Stein. Durant's ties to the Knicks include his strong relationship with Carmelo Anthony and the relationship between his agent, Rich Kleiman of Roc Nation Sports, and Knicks GM Steve Mills. Still, given that New York is not among the first group of teams with whom Durant has agreed to meet, it seems as if the club faces long odds to sign him.
-Durant's camp has confirmed 6 meetings so far
-Grizzlies claim Wroten
-Knicks add Summers to Summer League squad
-Knicks add Tokoto to Summer League Squad (he reminds me Shumpert, don't count him out making the roster).
- Knicks interested in Crawford (and he in them)
-Kyler says we rank our center options as Noah #1 and Howard #2, would be "surprised" if the Knicks don't sign one of them. At this point I'd be shocked if Noah isn't a Knick.
-Tommy Dee claims we are interested in Parsons and Gerald Green
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They are at 36 now renounce Galloway and Thomas that gives you 40 or trade O'Quinn for a future 2nd...
Herangomez you can sign with room exception...
What is the cap at now? According to hoopshype we are at 55 mill NOT including Lance or Galloway.
Yeah I read it wrong, they would need to trade O'Quinn if noah wants 13
I'd say Melo picks his spots better than George did this last season. But George carried a huge offensive load. George gets a lot more space on his jumpers due to his athleticism and I think he's one of the 10 best shooters in the game right now. Melo also struggled mightily at the rim and I don't know if he can get back to his old self in the regard at this age.
Not disrespecting Melo at all. I just don't think PG gets the credit he deserves coming back right away and leading a bunch of decent role players to the playoffs.
I might be higher than George than most but I don't think it's crazy to suggest swapping PG onto the Spurs for kawhi and SA still winning 65 games or so.
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They are at 36 now renounce Galloway and Thomas that gives you 40 or trade O'Quinn for a future 2nd...
Herangomez you can sign with room exception...
Right now they have 54.1 committed not including LT and LG. Assuming you're using a 93 million cap, that leaves 36 million. There is no extra room on the 36 million for giving up Lance and Gallo.
Your right I counted wrong so they would Have to get rid of OQuinn
Can you shed a 4 million dollar contract without picking up salary back?
Easily I think. The prices for free agents are going to be crazy, and teams need to hit really high cap floors the next few seasons.
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They are at 36 now renounce Galloway and Thomas that gives you 40 or trade O'Quinn for a future 2nd...
Herangomez you can sign with room exception...
Right now they have 54.1 committed not including LT and LG. Assuming you're using a 93 million cap, that leaves 36 million. There is no extra room on the 36 million for giving up Lance and Gallo.
Your right I counted wrong so they would Have to get rid of OQuinn
Can you shed a 4 million dollar contract without picking up salary back?
Easily I think. The prices for free agents are going to be crazy, and teams need to hit really high cap floors the next few seasons.
Actually I meant it in regards to the CBA. I think there are rules in place where you cnat just shed salary without taking back salary within 20-25% of the salary you are trading away.
That's me being an overly optimistic Knicks fan, something you know about pretty damn well.
But again it's up to watch the season to see how it plays out. Rose has had a significant knee injury in 3 of the last 4 seasons. I don't see how you ignore that completely. The stats that show how much better he is off two days rest as opposed to 1 exemplifies. I don't see how it's not justified to be concerned about Rose's health if you have followed he NBA over the last 5 years. Have you? Or should I just assume you stick to Knicks games and have absolutely no clue?
Actually I meant it in regards to the CBA. I think there are rules in place where you cnat just shed salary without taking back salary within 20-25% of the salary you are trading away.
No. I think you're thinking of the rule about capped out teams taking on MORE salary. If you're capped out you can still take on a bit more salary in trades, so long as the traded for salaries are within a certain $$.
There is no rule that says you have to take salary back in any trade.
Paul George played 81 out of 82 games, 35 minutes a night. He's fine. When and If Rose ever does that, people will change their minds.
You're still diminishing defense. It's 50% of the game. George is a top 3 wing on that end. Melo is average at best. Shooting isn't that close anymore, George has eclipsed Melo. I think PG can be the 2nd best player on a championship team. Maybe even #1 if he magically gets a Spurs roster in Indy. Melo is a 3rd wheel at best.
Heres what I have if Phil can pull off the unimaginable:
C Noah/Hernangomez/KP
PF Durant/KP/Melo/Thomas
SF Melo/Durant/Thomas
SG Holliday/Galloway/Baker
PG Rose/Baker
With the top 4 players being the 'stars' and some positional overlap it will be all about rotation and minute distribution.
Could that team providing health and KP making the expected jump next year contend for a title?
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Actually I meant it in regards to the CBA. I think there are rules in place where you cnat just shed salary without taking back salary within 20-25% of the salary you are trading away.
No. I think you're thinking of the rule about capped out teams taking on MORE salary. If you're capped out you can still take on a bit more salary in trades, so long as the traded for salaries are within a certain $$.
There is no rule that says you have to take salary back in any trade.
Ah thanks for clarification.
Seems awfully like he's at least pretty sure where he's heading...or staying...
Huh? All I said was I would take George because he is younger and a better defensively player...
Where did I say he was light years better than melo? If they were the same age I would take melo
Seems awfully like he's at least pretty sure where he's heading...or staying...
If he is deciding on July 1st he knows where he is going and not taking meetings
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Can teams meet before then or is midnight 7/1 when they can start.
Seems awfully like he's at least pretty sure where he's heading...or staying...
If he is deciding on July 1st he knows where he is going and not taking meetings
Just going off what espn was reporting. I don't see it being that ridiculous. It's the annual dick sucking of star FAs. Getting wined and dined in the most lavish places in Beverly Hills and the hamptons with no downside seems like it would be pretty hard to turn down.
And to go conspiracy theorist here, he gives other contenders hope while other top FAs start signing elsewhere. Helps the prospects of whatever team you choose to go to's chances.
Don't understand Europe's aversion to weight training when it comes to ball players. You spend one summer here in an LA fitness and a 7 footer puts on 30 pounds easy
They aren't high on Noah at all #39
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Has the team met up yet? Those could easily be old list weights.
Louis Labeyrie PF 6-10 200 23 Gonesse 2014 Rnd 2 Pick 27 France
KD is not 240.
And Lebron is not 250. He's the only non-overweight player they under list the of. There are reports that he might've been between 280-300 when he was first in Cleveland.
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That's my point. It's probably his 2015-16 pre-season weight per his French team. Could be more or less now.
Always thought of him more of a SF that plays stretch 4. He reminds me more of Tobias Harris than KOQ
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Always thought of him more of a SF that plays stretch 4. He reminds me more of Tobias Harris than KOQ
I'm talking about an Orlando RFA who produced in limits minutes that you would be paying X to with the hope he could give you the same production with a larger role. I bet even the money is similar.
For Team USA, yes. The Knicks? Doubt it.
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It's not that I especially "like" him. I just think he was a high level college scorer that that almost made the warriors which leads me to believe he'd have a legit shot making our roster.
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That he and kd have been hanging out and they have been talking about teaming up
For Team USA, yes. The Knicks? Doubt it.
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
Carmelo Anthony told @ESPNSteinLine that he's recruiting Kevin Durant. Sources tell me he's been pitching NY to a few other players too.
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That he and kd have been hanging out and they have been talking about teaming up
For Team USA, yes. The Knicks? Doubt it.
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
Carmelo Anthony told @ESPNSteinLine that he's recruiting Kevin Durant. Sources tell me he's been pitching NY to a few other players too.
We've heard this before. Who has Melo actually "recruited" that has come to the Knicks?
I would be surprised, [if we started the season with our current crop of big men] ... I talk freely always with my players. This is something that in a different world maybe its awkward. It isnt because its true, its real, its part of pro sport. Sometimes for the players too, like they have to understand that maybe its best for them too. And so, all over the place instead of sort of hiding from this kind of what could be the elephant in the room or an awkward moment I dont like doing that. I speak freely with my guys about it.
Its just we understand the positional balance of our roster needs to rule the day. We have to find a balanced team.
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I would take Paul George over Melo but lets not complete disrespect melo
I'd say Melo picks his spots better than George did this last season. But George carried a huge offensive load. George gets a lot more space on his jumpers due to his athleticism and I think he's one of the 10 best shooters in the game right now. Melo also struggled mightily at the rim and I don't know if he can get back to his old self in the regard at this age.
Not disrespecting Melo at all. I just don't think PG gets the credit he deserves coming back right away and leading a bunch of decent role players to the playoffs.
I might be higher than George than most but I don't think it's crazy to suggest swapping PG onto the Spurs for kawhi and SA still winning 65 games or so.
On what planet is Paul George one of the 10 best shooters in the game? Are we just making things up now to advance our arguments?....He shot 41.9% from the field last year, and 37% from 3 which are respectable, but come on. As a comparison because those are the two players in the conversation, Carmelo shot better overall at 43.4% but had a down year from behind the arc so George was better there.
George shot 56.2% less than 8ft from the hoop, 35.5% from 8-16ft, and 39.7% from 16-24ft.
Anthony shot 49.9% from less than 8ft., 43.3% from 8-16ft, and 45.6% from 16-24ft.
So basically George is really good at the rim/in the paint and shoots under 40% everywhere else on the court.
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That he and kd have been hanging out and they have been talking about teaming up
For Team USA, yes. The Knicks? Doubt it.
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
Carmelo Anthony told @ESPNSteinLine that he's recruiting Kevin Durant. Sources tell me he's been pitching NY to a few other players too.
We've heard this before. Who has Melo actually "recruited" that has come to the Knicks?
Well the knicks have had cap room twice since Melo has been here the first time they signed chandler who was the best center on the market and he took less...
Last year by all accounts Aldridge was very interested even talked about getting a 3rd guy but then Phil said he wanted Aldridge to play center...
So really how much opportunity has he had to recruit?
On a smaller scale he got kidd and Kenyon martin