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NFT: Mets and Nats! Thor Day! Mets Chat 6/27

ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 10:51 am
-Mets start a very tough stretch.. Nats, Cubs, and Marlins incoming

-Syndergaard VS Joe Ross

-Reyes went 0-3, Piazza wished him the best with Mets

-Strasburg to DL. Minor leaguer expected to be called up for Tuesday's game

-Gio has been AWFUL his last 8 games

-Rendon still slumping, 19-86 since May 30th

-Familia 25 for 25

-All eyes on Syndergaard's "discomfort"

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ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 11:07 am : link
Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
Two ways to look at this week's series. One is the NL East-leading Nats versus Wild Card-leading #Mets. Two is a pair of teams in freefall.
Mets arrow is pointed up  
spike : 6/27/2016 11:13 am : link
Nats pointing down. Theyve already peaked
When will  
Josh in the City : 6/27/2016 11:45 am : link
Reyes be playing in the bigs?
RE: Mets arrow is pointed up  
chris r : 6/27/2016 11:48 am : link
In comment 13010789 spike said:
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Nats pointing down. Theyve already peaked


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Didn't the Mets win like 9 games in a row?
Daniel Murphy hit .241 so far in June with an OPS of .761  
Ira : 6/27/2016 11:49 am : link
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I suspect Murphy  
spike : 6/27/2016 11:51 am : link
Will mash the Mets these two series
RE: I suspect Murphy  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13010882 spike said:
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Will mash the Mets these two series


Without question. A game winning hit or two, for sure...
Murphy didn't magically become Ted Williams.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/27/2016 2:59 pm : link
He's due to be cold for a while.

Everything went right for the Nationals up until now. They haven't had a single bump in the road till this month. It wasn't going to continue.
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sphinx : 6/27/2016 3:28 pm : link
Jamal Collier
Lucas Giolito will start for the Nats tomorrow

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 3:33 pm : link
#Mets Game 75 of 162, @ WAS:

Granderson RF
Cabrera SS
Cespedes CF
Walker 2B
Loney 1B
Flores 3B
Nimmo LF
d'Arnaud C
Syndergaard P

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 3:38 pm : link
Matt Ehalt
Mets, I believe, are 3-0 in games started by debuting pitchers. Beat Aaron Blair, and Julio Urias and Jameson Taillon had no-decisions.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 3:50 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
The #Mets did work out Yulieski Gurriel today. Gurriel posted Instagram pictures of himself in team gear at the club's Florida complex.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 3:52 pm : link
Rich Coutinho
matz just arrived and terry found him and both just went into his office maybe it is nothing but will keep.you posted

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DanMetroMan : 6/27/2016 3:53 pm : link
Gurriel wearing Mets gear https://www.instagram.com/p/BHKqz3KBmGx/?taken-by=el_yuly10 https://www.instagram.com/p/BHKqo25hIrj/?taken-by=el_yuly10 #Mets
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sphinx : 6/27/2016 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13011522 DanMetroMan said:
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Gurriel wearing Mets gear https://www.instagram.com/p/BHKqz3KBmGx/?taken-by=el_yuly10 https://www.instagram.com/p/BHKqo25hIrj/?taken-by=el_yuly10 #Mets

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13011518 sphinx said:
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Rich Coutinho
matz just arrived and terry found him and both just went into his office maybe it is nothing but will keep.you posted

Rich Coutinho
matz just came out of office looks fine he was joking with noah and nimmo but Adam rubin or I will ask terry at 4 or so stay tuned

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:08 pm : link
Kristie Ackert
Matz not definite for Wednesday

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DanMetroMan : 6/27/2016 4:09 pm : link

Tweets
Marc Carig ‏@MarcCarig 5s5 seconds ago
Matz was checked out today in NYC. Mets may move next start. Still some elbow discomfort.
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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:10 pm : link
Matt Ehalt
There is no structural damage for Matz.

Kristie Ackert
Matz has seen the doctor already. They will re evaluate tomorrow. #Mets

Matt Ehalt
Terry did not rule out a DL stint.

Marc Carig
Matz was checked out today in NYC. Mets may move next start. Still some elbow discomfort.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:12 pm : link
Kevin Kernan
Jose Reyes will travel to Altoona tomorrow to play next two games and the Curve has a regular grass infield unlike Brooklyn

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13011563 sphinx said:
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Kevin Kernan
Jose Reyes will travel to Altoona tomorrow to play next two games and the Curve has a regular grass infield unlike Brooklyn

Matt Ehalt
Plans seems to be Reyes to Binghamton tomorrow.

Binghamton is playing in Altoona

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:21 pm : link
Mike Puma
Gilmartin and Verrett would be the main options if Matz can't go Wednesday.

Of course Matz is still having some discomfort  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 4:31 pm : link
Maybe they should just shut him down for a few weeks and let that elbow get better...
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DanMetroMan : 6/27/2016 4:34 pm : link
Robert Brender ‏@robertbrender 21m21 minutes ago
TC acknowledged that the team will likely have to monitor Matz and Syndergaard all season because of their arm issues.
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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:36 pm : link
Kevin Kernan
Jose worked with Fonzie at 3b and also took grounders at 2B in PreGame with Cyclones

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:45 pm : link
Kevin Kernan
Dunn will pitch Friday or Saturday for Cyclones I am told

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:49 pm : link
Marc Carig
Alderson will be here in DC tomorrow. Will be part of the meeting to decide how to move forward with Matz.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 4:53 pm : link
Marc Carig
Marc Carig Retweeted Jim Eimer
Matz says he's been told rest won't knock out the discomfort.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 5:01 pm : link
Kristie Ackert
Three #Mets sources tell me Matz has a bone spur in elbow.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 5:22 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
Juan Lagares will begin a Minor League rehab assignment tomorrow in Binghamton. He'll be a teammate there of Jose Reyes.

I love Matz, but he's starting to have a little too much in common  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/27/2016 5:22 pm : link
with TDA. It's always something.
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sphinx : 6/27/2016 5:23 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
Steven Matz's elbow discomfort is coming from a bone spur. The #Mets do believe he can pitch through it without risk of damage.

Motherfucker  
GMenLTS : 6/27/2016 5:30 pm : link
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If Matz gets surgery now ...  
sphinx : 6/27/2016 5:30 pm : link
Marc Carig
Believe it would be 6 weeks before he began throwing.

RE: If Matz gets surgery now ...  
sphinx : 6/27/2016 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13011692 sphinx said:
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Marc Carig
Believe it would be 6 weeks before he began throwing.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 5:34 pm : link
Robert Brender
Ricco told me it is possible to gauge a players ability from one workout. They think there will be competition for his

Ricco said Gourriel is essentially in the process of building his market with the workouts. His agent has yet to request formal offers.

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sphinx : 6/27/2016 5:36 pm : link
Matt Ehalt
And seems Mets are not in on Yunel Escobar at this point.

Some quick hits: Mets not at the point with De Aza where they're looking to part ways. And teams aren't inquiring on him.

We need Wheeler  
spike : 6/27/2016 5:38 pm : link
Stat!
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Shecky : 6/27/2016 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13011701 sphinx said:
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Matt Ehalt
And seems Mets are not in on Yunel Escobar at this point.

Some quick hits: Mets not at the point with De Aza where they're looking to part ways. And teams aren't inquiring on him.


So what's come out today so far.
Mets have no big traded lined up.
Rosario is considered untouchable.
Mets not in on little trades like Escobar.

Z - see why I didn't agree the other night?
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ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 6:02 pm : link
In comment 13011715 Shecky said:
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In comment 13011701 sphinx said:


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Matt Ehalt
And seems Mets are not in on Yunel Escobar at this point.

Some quick hits: Mets not at the point with De Aza where they're looking to part ways. And teams aren't inquiring on him.




So what's come out today so far.
Mets have no big traded lined up.
Rosario is considered untouchable.
Mets not in on little trades like Escobar.

Z - see why I didn't agree the other night?


Yeah. I dont even know which parts you were disagreeing with. This guy is 100% legit IMO and has connections just like you do. He never said the Mets were on the verge of making a trade or anything like that. He did mention that they have an eye on a large target and are familiar with what the parameters of a deal would look like. I felt like sharing only because most people assumed we were only exploring Reyes, Gurriel, ect. Its all good. No biggie. I think from now on Ill just keep it to myself. I pretty much always preface it with being clear asshat, ect.
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PhiPsi125 : 6/27/2016 6:04 pm : link
In comment 13011730 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13011715 Shecky said:


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In comment 13011701 sphinx said:


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Matt Ehalt
And seems Mets are not in on Yunel Escobar at this point.

Some quick hits: Mets not at the point with De Aza where they're looking to part ways. And teams aren't inquiring on him.




So what's come out today so far.
Mets have no big traded lined up.
Rosario is considered untouchable.
Mets not in on little trades like Escobar.

Z - see why I didn't agree the other night?



Yeah. I dont even know which parts you were disagreeing with. This guy is 100% legit IMO and has connections just like you do. He never said the Mets were on the verge of making a trade or anything like that. He did mention that they have an eye on a large target and are familiar with what the parameters of a deal would look like. I felt like sharing only because most people assumed we were only exploring Reyes, Gurriel, ect. Its all good. No biggie. I think from now on Ill just keep it to myself. I pretty much always preface it with being clear asshat, ect.


I don't see an issue with sharing stuff that you hear. Makes for fun conversation if nothing else.
Thanks  
ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 6:06 pm : link
Phi.
Z  
Shecky : 6/27/2016 6:07 pm : link
It's all good. Wasn't knocking the info. Just disagreeing with it.

I assume he was alluding to trading Rosario when you mentioned big target but not giving up pitching. Seemed obvious what implication was to me.

Having an idea about what it would take to land a big target? You never know TRUE asking price of a player unless you have serious negotiations. And sandy wouldn't have serious negotiations without being ready to pull the trigger - he'd view it as dirty to holds real talks with no intentions to act for a month or two. Lastly, trade demands fluctuate like the stock market the next 6-8 weeks.
Yeah no he didn't mention  
ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 6:15 pm : link
Rosario at all. He actually insinuated whoever this target was would cost a pitcher (I assumed Wheeler).
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sphinx : 6/27/2016 6:26 pm : link
Marc Carig
If there's good news re: Matz, it is that the bone spur is not in area that threatens ligament, per source.

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JayBinQueens : 6/27/2016 6:36 pm : link
In comment 13011733 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13011730 ZGiants98 said:

I felt like sharing only because most people assumed we were only exploring Reyes, Gurriel, ect. Its all good. No biggie. I think from now on Ill just keep it to myself. I pretty much always preface it with being clear asshat, ect.



I don't see an issue with sharing stuff that you hear. Makes for fun conversation if nothing else.


Also in the camp of share what info you get passed. Worst case scenario it doesn't come to fruition and it spurs some good back and forth
Yes, Z  
sphinx : 6/27/2016 6:55 pm : link
By all means pass along what you hear. My request is that you sensibly filter it

BTW, I checked with my friends and family today and most, not all, said I was definitely not a douchebag. You're in the minority.

RISP's early in this one  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:12 pm : link
1st-3rd 1 out for walker
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2016 7:13 pm : link
You just knew he was making that fucking catch.
1-0 good guys  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:14 pm : link
OK, Noah - do you thing...
as a baseball fan  
JayBinQueens : 6/27/2016 7:15 pm : link
you love seeing that.

As a Met fan... fuck that
Of course Revere gets a hit  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:17 pm : link
after that fucking catch...
Now a walk  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:19 pm : link
crap...
Another walk  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:26 pm : link
double crap.

And Murphy up. Awesome
no bueno  
JayBinQueens : 6/27/2016 7:26 pm : link
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Thought he was going to come out  
Rflairr : 6/27/2016 7:27 pm : link
And shut them down after they got an early run. Jeesh
Nice play, Loney!  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:31 pm : link
saves at least a run
wooo!  
JayBinQueens : 6/27/2016 7:31 pm : link
Thor!!!
Noah works out of it  
Mike in NY : 6/27/2016 7:31 pm : link
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Wow  
Rflairr : 6/27/2016 7:31 pm : link
Thor!!
Yes!  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:31 pm : link
DP ends the inning...
That was Mets-esque for the Nats  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2016 7:32 pm : link
:)
bases loaded  
pjcas18 : 6/27/2016 7:32 pm : link
0 outs, gets out of it, 23 pitches isn't horrible all things considered
RE: That was Mets-esque for the Nats  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13011816 arcarsenal said:
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Yep. And they had their two best hitters up!
RE: Nice play, Loney!  
Spreegal22 : 6/27/2016 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13011811 speedywheels said:
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saves at least a run

He has been a solid pick up
whew  
timintey : 6/27/2016 7:34 pm : link
Dodged a bullet in the first
RE: RE: Nice play, Loney!  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13011819 Spreegal22 said:
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saves at least a run


He has been a solid pick up


He's given then everything they were hoping to get from him...
NImmo with his first hit!  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:38 pm : link
Good job, kid...
Grandy hitting 109 with RISP  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:42 pm : link
042 with 2 outs.

Small sample size or not, that is brutally bad...
Yes!  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:43 pm : link
2-0 good guys on single by Grandy...
bases loaded for Ces  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:46 pm : link
...
well, that sucked  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:49 pm : link
damn...
2 K's for Noah  
speedywheels : 6/27/2016 7:54 pm : link
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Nice start!  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 8:05 pm : link
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atta boy wilmahhhhhhhhhhh  
GMenLTS : 6/27/2016 8:06 pm : link
keep scoring boys
Dusty is just gonna leave Ross out there to rot tonight.  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2016 8:08 pm : link
Keep pouring it on.
Really want that run  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 8:09 pm : link
on 3rd here. Gotta tack on every chance you get.
Brutal!  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 8:10 pm : link
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4 run lead  
Rflairr : 6/27/2016 8:26 pm : link
And Noah is going to give it back? Unreal
This is a disaster  
EJV79 : 6/27/2016 8:28 pm : link
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unfuckingbelievable  
GMenLTS : 6/27/2016 8:34 pm : link
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Big let down  
Rflairr : 6/27/2016 8:34 pm : link
By Noah in this game
Awesome fucking pitch selection TdA  
PhiPsi125 : 6/27/2016 8:35 pm : link
Picking up right where you left off.
Running all over the mets  
EJV79 : 6/27/2016 8:35 pm : link
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I sense Thor's air of  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 8:36 pm : link
invincibility is just not there.

4 stolen bases! He's got to do better than that, much fucking better!
Everyone is fucking Ricky Henderson  
Rflairr : 6/27/2016 8:37 pm : link
Against these two
I hate d'arnaud  
EJV79 : 6/27/2016 8:38 pm : link
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did no one wanna go to the mound to tell him to settle down?  
GMenLTS : 6/27/2016 8:38 pm : link
or did I miss someone?

Because he was off from the first pitch of the inning
and for fuck's sake  
GMenLTS : 6/27/2016 8:39 pm : link
the steals are absurd already
Weak ass performance  
Rflairr : 6/27/2016 8:40 pm : link
By Thor. Big let down

Embarrassing. Letting a team run on you like this
Okay, this has been all season long now  
PhiPsi125 : 6/27/2016 8:40 pm : link
Can these idiot coaches place ANY importance on their pitchers (Thor) holding runners on? Morons.
finally  
GMenLTS : 6/27/2016 8:41 pm : link
jesus fucking christ
Like watching Little League  
sphinx : 6/27/2016 8:43 pm : link
with the steals. The word is out with Noah.

Who is managing this team????  
Chris L. : 6/27/2016 8:43 pm : link
Can we at least have a throw over to first base once and a while?????? You can at least try to hold runners on.
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sphinx : 6/27/2016 8:45 pm : link
Buster Olney
Syndergaard has allowed 28 steals this season; five tonight. No other pitcher has allowed more than 14

If he's not embarrassed  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 8:45 pm : link
enough after that display, I don't know what will force his hand into working on that part of his game. That was a disgrace!
more steals for good measure  
GMenLTS : 6/27/2016 8:59 pm : link
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This thing could get out of  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 9:01 pm : link
control shortly. What a nauseating brand of baseball.
Stolen bases and infielders with no range  
Vanzetti : 6/27/2016 9:05 pm : link
that's what has killed the Mets this game

Cabrera is a fucking statue. Pigeons are going to start landing on him.
I'm done with this fucking game  
EJV79 : 6/27/2016 9:20 pm : link
Fuck this shit. Nats shitting all over these fucking pathetic mets.
Ha! Who didn't think  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 9:21 pm : link
Espinosa was going to get a hit after the 0 - 2 count? Would love to see the opponents BA when 0 - 2.

This is pure garbage!
I mean, half of it is on the pitcher to make the pitches  
PhiPsi125 : 6/27/2016 9:25 pm : link
But TdA calls an awful game. I'm really starting to despise him as a catcher.

But he's great at framing pitches...YEAH!!
Pull Gilmartin  
spike : 6/27/2016 9:26 pm : link
This is BS
This is ugly baseball!!!!!  
Chris L. : 6/27/2016 9:26 pm : link
Yeah I'm talking to you Terry Collins!!!!!
Time to wave white flag  
spike : 6/27/2016 9:27 pm : link
Send Bastardo and Goeddel to mop up
RE: I mean, half of it is on the pitcher to make the pitches  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13011895 PhiPsi125 said:
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But TdA calls an awful game. I'm really starting to despise him as a catcher.

But he's great at framing pitches...YEAH!!


He really is terrific at framing pitches, isn't he? He'll always be a liability behind the plate and standing at the plate, well, I'm not sure we're going to see much from him there either.
Another two strike count and another completely hittable pitch  
PhiPsi125 : 6/27/2016 9:29 pm : link
called by TdA...right in Werths wheelhouse. Fuck this guy.
TDAs future  
spike : 6/27/2016 9:29 pm : link
Is at first base. Hes not even an average defensive catcher
RE: Another two strike count and another completely hittable pitch  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 9:32 pm : link
In comment 13011903 PhiPsi125 said:
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called by TdA...right in Werths wheelhouse. Fuck this guy.


As bad a defensive catcher as he is our pitchers aren't helping. Thor was supposed to throw a fastball off the plate to Zimmerman in the 3rd with 2 strikes and he missed by two feet to the inside ...fortunately beat him for the K. The location on most of the 2 strike counts are so hittable it's not even funny.
Reyes looks like he's ready  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 9:34 pm : link
to join the big team. LOL!
RE: RE: Another two strike count and another completely hittable pitch  
PhiPsi125 : 6/27/2016 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13011906 Stufftherun said:
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In comment 13011903 PhiPsi125 said:


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called by TdA...right in Werths wheelhouse. Fuck this guy.



As bad a defensive catcher as he is our pitchers aren't helping. Thor was supposed to throw a fastball off the plate to Zimmerman in the 3rd with 2 strikes and he missed by two feet to the inside ...fortunately beat him for the K. The location on most of the 2 strike counts are so hittable it's not even funny.


No doubt, I agree. But TdA is so bad. I've always said that one of their biggest mistakes was not getting a veteran catcher to man this young pitching staff. It's almost like TdA has no idea where the weak spots are of the hitters or how to waste pitches when his pitchers are up in the count.
Has anyone adjusted  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 9:40 pm : link
their wins total prediction yet?
What I don't understand  
Vanzetti : 6/27/2016 9:42 pm : link
is last year the Mets had a great team. Really, they were the best in baseball from Aug-Oct. They just lost to a more experienced, heady Royals team that had stocked up by adding Cueto and Zobrist.

During that time , the team had one big problem: a catcher who could not throw anybody out. Instead of fixing that problem, you go and "fix" a bunch of things that were not broken.

Sorry but Cabrera is not an upgrade over Flores/ Tejada.

Walker is a huge downgrade from Murphy.

De Aza and Bastado? The less said, the better.

Why did they make all these changes to a team that was already great and filled with youth by adding a bunch of "meh" veterans. I know I get on Sandy too much and that annoys some of you. But really why would just not bring back that team from last year? Flores hit 16 HR and finally was starting to crank and now he is bench player so that you can add the Venus de Milo?

The Walker-Murphy move was kind of nifty because presumably you get two picks, assuming Walker does not accept arbitration. But when you have a team filled with young studs, you should be thinking about winning now. You should not be weakening the team in 2016 so you will be stronger in 2022 IMO.

Just my opinion and I know not everyone will agree, but it is really a tragedy what they did to this team. Right now, I just want to see the young guys. I have seen enough of Walker, Cabrera and the other lifeless automatons. I have seen enough pulling the ball into the shift. I have seen enough runners left in scoring position. I have seen enough statues playing infield. Lets get Herrera up here. Let Nimmo play. If Cecch can overcome the yips, let's get him up here. Inoa or Edgin and maybe Smoker in the pen. Give them an opportunity. Cuz what you got ain't getting it done.
RE: Reyes looks like he's ready  
Vanzetti : 6/27/2016 9:46 pm : link
In comment 13011908 Stufftherun said:
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to join the big team. LOL!


Hope Jose was not watching tonight because he might have second thoughts.
I get your frustration  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 9:52 pm : link
but I don't agree with your assessment of Cabrera. He's been very good in the field and has stabilized that position, he's a pro. Walker's been fine but has hit some ruts. If you look at the lineup they really are overall subpar at most positions. The thing that has dissapointed me is the pitching. Just about every night I look up and see double digits in hits against our vaunted pitching and when you couple that with the all too often night off at the plate, well, you get a shitty brand of ball.
Vanzetti, it's hard to disagree with you but there are some that  
PhiPsi125 : 6/27/2016 9:54 pm : link
will get on your case of course. I also hate the two picks (BRILLIANT SANDY) excuse because I'm not really concerned with a potential bench player (if that) 4 or 5 years down the line. But to be fair, nobody envisioned Murphy doing as well as he is doing this year. My biggest gripe is that they completely fucked with the chemistry of the team, but not everyone places the same importance on that as I do.

The catching situation wasn't ideal but they had/have a young potential good hitter at the position so they weren't going to give up on that yet.

I thought they should have added more speed, but they have a flawed approach that speed (stolen bases, hit and run) isn't important. Which is weird after watching the Royals beat us in the WS with a lot of help from speed.

At the end, injuries have really hurt us...but those injured players really weren't producing anyway so I don't know how much better we would have fared if they didn't get hurt.
The mets are probably playing tight  
spike : 6/27/2016 9:55 pm : link
... or they dont care
I genuinely feel bad for  
Stufftherun : 6/27/2016 10:09 pm : link
TdA, he's just not a major league catcher. He always looks like he's fighting it back there.
I just dont know what's different  
ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 10:44 pm : link
about the "best team in baseball through August-September" and this team. Im looking at one person.... Neil Walker. That's it. And Walker is playing better now then Murphy was last year.

The rotation is identical. The pen is nearly identical (Reed is better than Clippard) If we really wanted Gilmartin back over Bastardo we could make that switch. Gilmartin got shredded tonight btw. Blevins at least is healthy this year. Robles? Verrett?

Flores is still on the team. Clearly the organization feels Cabrera is better and I find it hard to believe he's not. So who else is different? Its the Mets fault Duda and Wright are out? We really think Kirk would be SO much better than De Aza as the resident bench sitter/5th OF guy? TDA was here last year and one of the biggest reasons we got so hot in August. Conforto was a part of that too. Makes no sense to me. None.

The difference is one guy. Neil Walker over Murphy. That's the difference.
Awful performance tonight btw  
ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 10:46 pm : link
Certainly doesn't feel good getting brained by the Nats.
Time to get this guy...  
ZGiants98 : 6/27/2016 10:52 pm : link
DO NOT READ THIS POST  
sphinx : 6/27/2016 11:28 pm : link
Mike Puma ‏@NYPost_Mets 12 minutes ago
Syndergaard claims no bone spur. Multiple sources say he has one.

'what his is'  
sphinx : 6/27/2016 11:30 pm : link
Matt Ehalt ‏@MattEhalt 6 minutes ago
Terry when asked if Noah has a bone spur: I dont really know what his is, but like I said his is fine, it flares up and so.



Christ  
Modus Operandi : 6/28/2016 2:20 am : link
Either all of our players are made of paper mache or we have no idea how to treat these injuries.

This team is pathetic.
RE: Christ  
Stufftherun : 6/28/2016 8:18 am : link
In comment 13012019 Modus Operandi said:
Quote:
Either all of our players are made of paper mache or we have no idea how to treat these injuries.

This team is pathetic.


Sounds like another NY team we all know and love.

This seasons Mets are the Nats of 2015. Injuries, subpar play and soon to be irrelevant if they don't right the ship.
Collins needs to learn Coughlin's injury speak.  
Victor in CT : 6/28/2016 8:38 am : link
"He's got an elbow" a knee, fill in the body part.

These teams have all done themselves a disservice by treating pitchers like china dolls. The facts of the baseball season are that everyone has aches and pains and you have to learn to play through unless its truly a structural injury.

Ron Darling said it, the value used to be in pitching every 5th day. Now is pitching perfectly. And pitched over 240 innings once with bone spurs, once with bone chips.
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