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NFT: BBI beer drinkers and home brewers - thoughts on this device

jcn56 : 6/27/2016 1:06 pm
I'm not an avid beer drinker, and my lone attempt to do some home brewing resulted in something that would have been better used as a cleaning solution. This device caught my attention mostly for what it claims to be able to do, not so much for the product that it'll put out (or at least what I'm expecting the output to be like).

Has anyone seen this thing yet and have any thoughts on it? Could it really simplify and speed up brewing that way and still turn out a decent beer?
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/igulu-smart-automated-craft-beer-home-brewery--4#/ - ( New Window )
Hmm, like a beer Keurig  
Johnny5 : 6/27/2016 1:11 pm : link
Yuck.
for personal home use its silly  
ron mexico : 6/27/2016 1:11 pm : link
batches are way too small to make it worth while
This is a joke.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 6/27/2016 1:20 pm : link
First of all, if you're going to want to drink home brew, it's likely because you want to brew it yourself. It's fun to use different hop bills, different malts, different yeasts and see what you come up with. This sounds like an automated dispenser of poorly made home brew, almost certainly from extract which I can't stand.

I frankly don't get the appeal of the machine. If you want home brew, then home brew. If you want a certain beer, any decent store will have lots of amazing varieties. There's more great craft beer out there than ever before. So where does this fit in? I'm not sure.
$989 for a mini keg system?  
PeterinAtlanta : 6/27/2016 1:29 pm : link
That's brutal.
Seems like a decent price.  
Randy in CT : 6/27/2016 1:31 pm : link
I might get 4 or 5 of them and spread them around.
lol I'll just stick to going to the breweries  
Vin R : 6/27/2016 1:44 pm : link
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RE: This is a joke.  
giants#1 : 6/27/2016 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13011132 Bold Ruler said:
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First of all, if you're going to want to drink home brew, it's likely because you want to brew it yourself. It's fun to use different hop bills, different malts, different yeasts and see what you come up with. This sounds like an automated dispenser of poorly made home brew, almost certainly from extract which I can't stand.

I frankly don't get the appeal of the machine. If you want home brew, then home brew. If you want a certain beer, any decent store will have lots of amazing varieties. There's more great craft beer out there than ever before. So where does this fit in? I'm not sure.


This (and others like the PicoBrew) look like they allow you to do your own experimenting in terms of hops/yeasts/etc. They just handle all the boiling, mixing, filtering, (cleaning?), etc steps for you. So it's a way to make "homebrews" without spending half a day (or more) doing so.

Or am I completely missing something?

No thanks. This seems like something for someone who  
drkenneth : 6/27/2016 2:26 pm : link
wants to "homebrew" without homebrewing.

RE: RE: This is a joke.  
ron mexico : 6/27/2016 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13011256 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13011132 Bold Ruler said:


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First of all, if you're going to want to drink home brew, it's likely because you want to brew it yourself. It's fun to use different hop bills, different malts, different yeasts and see what you come up with. This sounds like an automated dispenser of poorly made home brew, almost certainly from extract which I can't stand.

I frankly don't get the appeal of the machine. If you want home brew, then home brew. If you want a certain beer, any decent store will have lots of amazing varieties. There's more great craft beer out there than ever before. So where does this fit in? I'm not sure.



This (and others like the PicoBrew) look like they allow you to do your own experimenting in terms of hops/yeasts/etc. They just handle all the boiling, mixing, filtering, (cleaning?), etc steps for you. So it's a way to make "homebrews" without spending half a day (or more) doing so.

Or am I completely missing something?


I've heard this pitched as a great tool for very experienced home brewers or nano breweries but I have a hard time someone that experienced wouldn't want to be more involved.

Either way, I cant imagine there is much of a market for it.
RE: This is a joke.  
jcn56 : 6/27/2016 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13011132 Bold Ruler said:
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First of all, if you're going to want to drink home brew, it's likely because you want to brew it yourself. It's fun to use different hop bills, different malts, different yeasts and see what you come up with. This sounds like an automated dispenser of poorly made home brew, almost certainly from extract which I can't stand.

I frankly don't get the appeal of the machine. If you want home brew, then home brew. If you want a certain beer, any decent store will have lots of amazing varieties. There's more great craft beer out there than ever before. So where does this fit in? I'm not sure.


This was my first thought as well. Not being much of a beer enthusiast or any kind of a home brewer, I thought maybe I was missing the point or target audience.
Don't want to hijack a thread  
SchindlersFist : 6/27/2016 3:18 pm : link
But this things looks pretty cool
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RE: RE: RE: This is a joke.  
giants#1 : 6/27/2016 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13011428 ron mexico said:
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I've heard this pitched as a great tool for very experienced home brewers or nano breweries but I have a hard time someone that experienced wouldn't want to be more involved.

Either way, I cant imagine there is much of a market for it.


I thought the opposite when I first saw the PicoBrew. I thought the market was for the inexperienced that wanted to try some homebrewing without the hassle. Basically makes "homebrewing" as easy as making coffee.

re: nanobreweries - I can see how they could have some value for quick "prototyping" of a mix, but then again, I could see how the taste of a batch from one of these would differ significantly from a traditionally brewed batch so it may not even be useful there.
RE: Don't want to hijack a thread  
Johnny5 : 6/27/2016 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13011442 SchindlersFist said:
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But this things looks pretty cool Link - ( New Window )

Now this Synek I could totally get behind! That is a cool idea!
Yeah, the Synek has potential.  
TheManUpstairs : 6/27/2016 3:37 pm : link
Get some market penetration, and you may have something.
I don't think there's any chance that thing can make really good beer  
Heisenberg : 6/27/2016 3:46 pm : link
and it's probably a huge pain to clean. And while it looks cool and counter top worthy, it probably would be a real mess to have on your counter. For that much money, you could get a really good home brew kit and a kegging system. Not worth it.
As an enthusiastic and competent homebrewer  
IIT : 6/28/2016 7:51 am : link
I don't see the appeal. It would depend on how much control you have over the brewing process (can it do grains? can you control when hops are added to the wort? what about ingredients beyond malt/hops/yeast?).

Batches are on the small side and I have strong doubts about reliability. Can't imagine it would be much fun getting it serviced.

It's the homebrew equivalent of an Easy Bake Oven.

The only remotely interesting element to me are the rewards for popular shared recipes which I would bet are pretty underwhelming.
RE: Don't want to hijack a thread  
haper : 6/28/2016 11:57 am : link
In comment 13011442 SchindlersFist said:
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But this things looks pretty cool Link - ( New Window )

I've been following the synek since it was a kickstarter. When I spoke to the local brewery i frequent last year they were adamantly against it, the local liquor store that has 12+ taps never heard of it but was 'open' to the idea. The biggest issue was getting the beer into the bladder, apparently a special adaptor had to be used on the tap. Since most places aren't going to have this adaptor you're left bringing it with you. But I was told there is still a problem since many establishments are not willing to let anything touch their taps that a customer walks in with.

The big advantage is the bladders are resealable so in theory you can 'tap' a bladder, reseal, re-tap, etc without the beer going flat. It solves the biggest problem with growlers, whose beer goes flat within 24 hours imo.
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