I just read the above, Bears tell Floyd they want him to eat every two hours. The draft seems so long ago, but yet, the season does not begin until longer than that.
But the statement above made me relive leading up to the draft, and the weekend I shared with you gentlemen
In January I wanted Treadwell, and in the ensuing months there was a little Ezekiel in me, but by draft night, I was of the Conklin/Stanley camp.However, I had concluded and that there were people with more insight then me, that we would probably draft Floyd if he was there. And I tried to wrap my arms around him.
As the draft and “gas mask bong” unfolded, it took me less than two minutes after the Ravens, at 6, passed on Tunsil, to go from “oh my God he might be available”, to although I might be liberal about a little weed, as a lot of cancer survivors like myself are, Jerry would never even dare to ask Mara about drafting him.
Two trade ups and Conklin (Titans), Floyd (Bears), go 9 & 10. Who remembers what they were thinking then? We stayed on the clock just about the whole 10 minutes.
My first thought was “could Jerry really trade down for the first time”? The next 6 or 13 guys all appear to be close to equally graded. Hargreaves? Maybe Treadwell’s really not out of it.
By Saturday night, I loved Jerry’s draft. Time will tell. Two years earlier I was convinced we would draft Jonathan Martin, or Aaron Donald, when Jerry pleasantly surprised me with the greatest wide receiver to ever wear a Giant uniform, (sorry Homer Jones).
I have since embraced Eli Apple. I don’t know if it will work, and we never had the opportunity to do so, but I’m glad we didn’t draft a guy with the 10th pick, that we have to tell to eat every two hours. When you change people, you don’t know what you get.
I just don't see what teams were enamored with in him.
If you're painfully skinny and don't have the frame for more, that doesn't really go away.
Happy with the players we got.
That said, I was also concerned about size, especially after it was reported he lost the weight he gained for the combine. On draft night, I was shocked by the third pick. Shocked more by the Apple pick. After reviewing it, it seemed like a good conservative pick.
Now, I still hope they go LB next draft. Getting a great LB in the mix would be instrumental to building our D up for the future. Our secondary is in flux but young and has the potential to turn into a strength for many years. I hope they get add a piece to the smaller group in the middle there to supplement in the same way.
Overall, Floyd would have been exciting to see how he turns out and what he produces. Apple though, seems like a good kid who can turn into a solid #1 CB if built up right. He's also 4 years younger. I have no regrets about this draft.
Me too. At his age his frame should have filled out more. He'll probably burn most of the weight he gains during the season if not camp. Or he should be moved to SS.
That being said, I think BBI is a little too polarized on Floyd. It's either "he's a freak that will change a defense" or "he's skinny and going to be a massive bust."
You can't deny his athleticism and the versatility that is created from that. On the other hand, I see the physical concerns and agree that someone who is a little older than the traditional prospect is a less enticing option to have to remake his body.
That being said, I think Floyd will be a fine player and is likely in a good spot to develop him. The Bears know the position and will be a great team for him to land on.
As for Eli Apple, I am happy and excited to see a young, cheap talent added to a secondary much in need.
When Giant fans on BBI posted about Floyd's weight, I didn't care. 50% of the posters here cried out against Aaron Donald's height in 2014. (He was my pick in '14.)
I must admit though, I really thought the Giants were going to grab Floyd and I was glad the Bears took him foiling Reese's dastardly plans.
It will be interesting how LF does.
I thought was perfect for the slot ...
Good Luck to Mr Apple I hope he's the goods ...
NTTABT. To each their own.
I think if this draft was to be done over again in 3 years, Apple would go off the board in the top 3 and Floyd would go undrafted. But who knows? Maybe he'll be like the Incredible Hulk and blow up with muscle and throw TE's out of the way like wet rags. Somehow, I doubt it.
He may be a Ware or Aldon Smith type? Maybe. If he isn't the only other option is complete bust? That's BS.
Couldn't he just be a good situational pass rusher and solid coverage LB? Why isn't this a possibility with Floyd?
He may be a Ware or Aldon Smith type? Maybe. If he isn't the only other option is complete bust? That's BS.
Couldn't he just be a good situational pass rusher and solid coverage LB? Why isn't this a possibility with Floyd?
Sure, but if that's all he is then you fucked up spending a top 10 pick on him
Just like any player, Floyd can be a stud, very good, average, poor, etc. it isn't just the extremes with this player or any other.
There isn't any off the fileld stuff that could prevent him from prospering. Without off the field stuff no player is boom or bust.
Floyd landed in a good place with a coach who knows how to use him. He works hard. I'd bet on him being a special player and impact rookie defender. At the very least, they'll get him on the edge in pass rush situations. Just this skill can make him a valuable rookie contrubutor.
Maybe it's not the exact, right phrasing, but the point is he struggles mightily to add weight and keep it on. He tried to bulk up for the combine and couldn't hold on to it.
Struggles to generate movement at the point of attack or convert speed to power. Too easily controlled on the edges. Can be eliminated by blockers when he doesn't effectively use his length.
COMPARES TO: Barkevious Mingo, Cleveland Browns - Neither players is known for ideal power features. Floyd and Mingo have lean athleticism and get-off quickness to threaten the edge and keep blockers guessing.
IN OUR VIEW: A highly intriguing size-length-athleticism prospect, Floyd can stab, dip and flatten around the edge, maintaining his balance without losing speed to the pocket. He is deadly in space, but Floyd's lack of functional strength and growth potential are glaring concerns. One of the best athletes in this draft class, his is not one of the best football players and would need to land in a scheme that protects him in a niche role.
--Rob Rang (@robrang) (2/19/16)
Scheme did not matter to the Floyd cheer squad.
At LB? You have plenty of undersized players at LB in a 4-3. Seattle is planning to use a CB to take over part of Irvin's spot.
It's a different game today. Teams aren't set on placing some players in traditional LB roles. Floyd can play several positions on any team. in a 4-3 he can play weak and strong sides, at LOS, drop in coverage and so on. Very easy to find a spot for him in a 4-3.
Yet you still can't name ONE, there's a reason for that btw.
Keep waving the pom poms though!
Giants wanted the guy right? What kind of defense do they play?
Giants wanted the guy right? What kind of defense do they play?
Your points in this thread are spot on. Too bad the resident fuck heads are here to inspire negativity in every post that suggests nuance and open-mindedness.