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Earl the goat : 6/27/2016 8:56 pm
If KD doesn't sign why not go after a combo of

Bismarck Biyombo and Fournier / Crabbe
Instead of pursuing Noah and Howard who are going to come a lot more expensive
BB is a relentless defender rebounder and shot blocker. Younger and cheaper than above and allows them to pursue a wing like Fournier or Crabbe

BB will do all the dirty work on the defensive end and set the punishing picks for DRose He doesn't need the ball and allows KP and Melo freedom on the offensive end

BB. Center
KP power forward
Melo small forward
Crabbe/ Fournier SG
Derrick Rose PG

Also keeps more cap space available for 2017. I.E. Westbrook
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Biyombo is rumored to get around  
giantsfan44ab : 6/27/2016 9:18 pm : link
$18M a year, probably more than Noah. Even if his age is falsified he's younger and healthier than both of those guys.
I want a defensively solid guard  
djm : 6/27/2016 9:57 pm : link
Preferably younger and definitely a guy that can flourish on both ends of the court while handling big minutes. He's gonna cost s fortune whoever it might be just hope they can get him. Knicks need the replacement center too but I still see their biggest need at guard. They still can't defend the position adequately even if Rose plays well.
I'd rather they remian flexible and sign shorterm deals  
Vanzetti : 6/27/2016 11:35 pm : link
than lock themselves in with longterm deals to mediocre players

I'd go with Gasol and Crawford.

I think those two improve the team as much as any other combo being mentioned (other than Durant, obviously) and you can probably get both of them on shorterm deals

Crabbe & Fournier  
PhilSimms15 : 6/28/2016 8:15 am : link
are both restricted. Their teams will likely match, plus you tie up your cap space for 5 days while the team decides.

Crawford is not going to come here for any kind of discount -- in fact, with the league awash in cap space and a higher cap number -- people are going to be stunned by who gets max contracts, and who gets huge $$ that outsize their talent. Pure supply and demand.

Knicks best bet is Noah to replace Lopez, hopefully at the same number, and a young defender at the 2, like Bazemore.
I  
AcidTest : 6/28/2016 8:18 am : link
read an article that said that Noah was the Knicks #1 target in FA.
Here is a question  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2016 8:21 am : link
If Durant wants golden state they have to trade iquodala, would you help out golden state and trade for him and absorb him into the cap space?

Rose ai Melo kp noah

Still have a little room to fill out rest of roster
RE: I  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2016 8:22 am : link
In comment 13012076 AcidTest said:
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read an article that said that Noah was the Knicks #1 target in FA.


I expect noah to be a knick by Friday morning
RE: RE: I  
mfsd : 6/28/2016 8:33 am : link
In comment 13012080 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13012076 AcidTest said:


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read an article that said that Noah was the Knicks #1 target in FA.



I expect noah to be a knick by Friday morning


For how much, is the pertinent question
I bet gsw  
Italianju : 6/28/2016 8:42 am : link
Can get something for iggy even if they don't want to take salary. Like picks or a young guy. That said if they were just dumping him I'd take him. Would be a good fit as a great defender. He can guard whoever the best player is at the 1-3 which would help out Melo and rose.
agree. I think  
Enzo : 6/28/2016 8:48 am : link
they can get something useful in return for Iggy. At a bare minimum they could get second rounders. As for bogut, they're going to have to trade at least one first. But the first pick they can trade is 2019.
Ian Begley  
Big Rick in FL : 6/28/2016 8:59 am : link
Just said on Twitter that we are interested in Mozgov. I'd assume if talks with Joakim break down.
RE: RE: I  
AcidTest : 6/28/2016 9:20 am : link
In comment 13012080 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13012076 AcidTest said:


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read an article that said that Noah was the Knicks #1 target in FA.



I expect noah to be a knick by Friday morning


Hes also apparently the #1 target of the Wizards. Dont get into a bidding war. That would be crazy.
That Wizards  
Big Rick in FL : 6/28/2016 9:24 am : link
Rumor was false according to a few NBA Writers. I've read a few times in the last day that the Wizards top target is Ryan Anderson.
Unnamed Bigman  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 9:31 am : link
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Tommy Dee  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 9:32 am : link
insists Noah will get more AAV than Lopez.
Magic  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 9:33 am : link
have said they will match any offer on Fournier (as they should).
The Raptors???  
Italianju : 6/28/2016 9:35 am : link
that seems odd.

There was never a chance that ORL would let fournier go. Even if they dont want to sign him (they do) then you either sign him and then trade him in december or at least do a S&T to someone. This is the same reason i dont think crabbe is an option. It just doesnt make sense for a team to lose an asset for nothing.
RE: Tommy Dee  
Enzo : 6/28/2016 9:39 am : link
In comment 13012161 DanMetroMan said:
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insists Noah will get more AAV than Lopez.

wouldn't shock me if Mozgov beats his number too. Maybe even Mahinmi.
If  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 9:39 am : link
Fournier were a Knick we wouldn't even be entertaining the thought of not resigning him. A soon to be 24 year old who's numbers have been trending the right way for 3 seasons now. I don't even entertain him as an option.
I  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 9:44 am : link
suspect Noah 100% will be a Knick. Doesn't sound like Fournier, Clarkson and Tyler Johnson will even be options. Matt Moore projects Courtney Lee to get 3 years 14-18 per
RE: I  
giantsfan44ab : 6/28/2016 9:47 am : link
In comment 13012174 DanMetroMan said:
[quote] suspect Noah 100% will be a Knick. Doesn't sound like Fournier, Clarkson and Tyler Johnson will even be options. Matt Moore projects Courtney Lee to get 3 years 14-18 per [/quote

Give me Bazemore then
The cap is going up and these guys  
giantsfan44ab : 6/28/2016 9:52 am : link
Are going to get paid but who the hell is giving Lee $18M per year? The sixers? The nets? The Grizzlies?

I don't see a big market among top teams for a 3 and D guard and I don't see why a bottom feeder would give $70M to a 30 year old guard that averages 8 points a game.
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RE: Tommy Dee  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/28/2016 9:56 am : link
In comment 13012161 DanMetroMan said:
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insists Noah will get more AAV than Lopez.


I don't think that's very shocking. Lopez is on a value deal. Noah is an accomplished former all star in a new, money-flushed market. He's certainly going to get paid. It's just a matter of how much it's going to hurt.
RE: RE: Tommy Dee  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:00 am : link
In comment 13012196 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13012161 DanMetroMan said:


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insists Noah will get more AAV than Lopez.



I don't think that's very shocking. Lopez is on a value deal. Noah is an accomplished former all star in a new, money-flushed market. He's certainly going to get paid. It's just a matter of how much it's going to hurt.


Well quite a few people on here were talking about Noah as some "cheap" or even a 1 year deal. I suspect 3 for 45-ish is the baseline.
Mavs  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:12 am : link
reportedly "very confident" they can sign Whiteside
Noah  
kporzee : 6/28/2016 10:13 am : link
I'm afraid that 15 mil per might even be low for what he's going to get.

I'd love Noah on this team, but am weary of the type of price and length of contract.
RE: RE: RE: Tommy Dee  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/28/2016 10:13 am : link
In comment 13012201 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13012161 DanMetroMan said:


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insists Noah will get more AAV than Lopez.



I don't think that's very shocking. Lopez is on a value deal. Noah is an accomplished former all star in a new, money-flushed market. He's certainly going to get paid. It's just a matter of how much it's going to hurt.



Well quite a few people on here were talking about Noah as some "cheap" or even a 1 year deal. I suspect 3 for 45-ish is the baseline.


He's too young to settle for a veteran's special type contract. Not like he's 35 and on his last legs. I agree with your guess.
Mozgov is a decent fall back plan, I suppose  
Heisenberg : 6/28/2016 10:14 am : link
I am fond of the guy but he's a limited player.

Noah will get at least Lopez money. He's a better player than RoLo when healthy. Someone will take a chance on his health.
Gasol  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:15 am : link
has informed the Bulls he won't be returning. Heavy spoke he's eyeing the Spurs.
Randomly  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:17 am : link
a friend of mine was working some Nike camp yesterday and not even the counselors were told what the "special surprise" was when the USA basketball team showed up.
Tommy Beer  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:18 am : link
Noah  
Jon in NYC : 6/28/2016 10:19 am : link
will get probably 3-50 or so. Maybe 4/65. But he's a better player than Rolo. Hopefully he stays healthy.
One year ago Greg Monroe was the hot free agent  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/28/2016 10:19 am : link
now he's a contract dump, lol
I would love  
Jon in NYC : 6/28/2016 10:20 am : link
Jodie Meeks as a shooter off the bench. We really don't have any.
Bulls  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:22 am : link
shopping Taj Gibson
RE: I would love  
giantsfan44ab : 6/28/2016 10:23 am : link
In comment 13012227 Jon in NYC said:
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Jodie Meeks as a shooter off the bench. We really don't have any.


Heck if Lee and Bazemore are costing upwards of $18M a year Id consider him for the starting spot. Health is the concern as is defense but he's a knockdown combo guard.
RE: Bulls  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/28/2016 10:24 am : link
In comment 13012233 DanMetroMan said:
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shopping Taj Gibson


Let's trade for Tony Snell and Deng too!
Crawford  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:24 am : link
meeting scheduled with the Clippers. Is looking to get paid.
RE: One year ago Greg Monroe was the hot free agent  
giantsfan44ab : 6/28/2016 10:27 am : link
In comment 13012226 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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now he's a contract dump, lol


I know the status quo on here is to shit on Monroe since the Bucks didn't make the playoffs but I actually think he had a really nice season. For what he's getting paid, playing him as your 6th man isn't that egregious. They didn't start doing that till the season was almost over but a 15 and 9 guy off the bench can't hurt despite his flaws.
RE: The Raptors???  
Jay in Saratoga : 6/28/2016 10:27 am : link
In comment 13012166 Italianju said:
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that seems odd.

There was never a chance that ORL would let fournier go. Even if they dont want to sign him (they do) then you either sign him and then trade him in december or at least do a S&T to someone. This is the same reason i dont think crabbe is an option. It just doesnt make sense for a team to lose an asset for nothing.


maybe the mystery big man is Biyambo?
Hey, let's say KD decides on joining GSW.  
Heisenberg : 6/28/2016 10:32 am : link
They likely need to dump Bogut. He could be a fit with the Knicks.
RE: Hey, let's say KD decides on joining GSW.  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2016 10:41 am : link
In comment 13012252 Heisenberg said:
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They likely need to dump Bogut. He could be a fit with the Knicks.


Bogut is a part time player at this point. He's injury prone and his minutes need to be heavily, heavily managed. He hasn't averaged 30 minutes per night since 2011-2012 (23.7 per night since then).
is Bazemore Unrestricted?  
Italianju : 6/28/2016 10:46 am : link
he is very underrated, would be a huge add to get him and Noah.
Yep, Bazemore is unrestricted.  
bceagle05 : 6/28/2016 10:48 am : link
I mentioned on yesterday's thread how much I'd love a Bazemore/Noah combo to fill out the starting lineup. Both are excellent defenders and fiery competitors who would fill out the starting lineup nicely, and hopefully leave a couple of bucks for a backup PG.
and i dont care how high the cap goes...  
Italianju : 6/28/2016 10:49 am : link
if someone pays courtney lee 15+ a year they are out of their mind.
RE: Yep, Bazemore is unrestricted.  
giantsfan44ab : 6/28/2016 10:51 am : link
In comment 13012277 bceagle05 said:
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I mentioned on yesterday's thread how much I'd love a Bazemore/Noah combo to fill out the starting lineup. Both are excellent defenders and fiery competitors who would fill out the starting lineup nicely, and hopefully leave a couple of bucks for a backup PG.


Agree completely. Like I said as well, I think you can get home court advantage if we got Noah and Bazemore (assuming decent health).
RE: RE: Hey, let's say KD decides on joining GSW.  
Aspano! : 6/28/2016 10:51 am : link
In comment 13012269 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13012252 Heisenberg said:


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They likely need to dump Bogut. He could be a fit with the Knicks.



Bogut is a part time player at this point. He's injury prone and his minutes need to be heavily, heavily managed. He hasn't averaged 30 minutes per night since 2011-2012 (23.7 per night since then).


But if Hornacek wants to get out and run (which he's said) and also sees KP playing at the 5 as well, I think Bogut is a great addition because you would most likely look to play him around 20 - 25 minutes.
I would be happy with Bazemore and noah  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2016 10:54 am : link
Add 2 defensive minded players to the starting lineup next to 3 offensive guys...

Kp and noah would be a tough front line
Not sure what happened to Vasquez last season  
giantsfan44ab : 6/28/2016 10:54 am : link
But I think you can get him on a 1 year deal. He is pretty high upside as far as backup PGs go. Can pass and shoot the 3.
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