If KD doesn't sign why not go after a combo of
Bismarck Biyombo and Fournier / Crabbe
Instead of pursuing Noah and Howard who are going to come a lot more expensive
BB is a relentless defender rebounder and shot blocker. Younger and cheaper than above and allows them to pursue a wing like Fournier or Crabbe
BB will do all the dirty work on the defensive end and set the punishing picks for DRose He doesn't need the ball and allows KP and Melo freedom on the offensive end
BB. Center
KP power forward
Melo small forward
Crabbe/ Fournier SG
Derrick Rose PG
Also keeps more cap space available for 2017. I.E. Westbrook
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I mean, the season didn't start off as an extreme disaster - they beat Cleveland in the second or third game of the year.
um, things went badly VERY quickly. By the end of November they were 4-14. And then they only won one game in December.
Right. And as I said, their main piece injured himself in the second game of the year, and their starting PG was basically out for the year by game 7. And their starting 5 looked completely incompetent. How does that change anything that I've said?
Horford
Milsap
Bazemore (who they can sign last because his hold is teeny)
Schroeder
Splitter
Thebo
Korver (bad year)
THJR (??)
Taurean Prince (R)
DeAndre' Bembry (R)
There's a lot of depth there, and a lot of defense. With some youth too.
I'll pass
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I mean, the season didn't start off as an extreme disaster - they beat Cleveland in the second or third game of the year.
um, things went badly VERY quickly. By the end of November they were 4-14. And then they only won one game in December.
Right. And as I said, their main piece injured himself in the second game of the year, and their starting PG was basically out for the year by game 7. And their starting 5 looked completely incompetent. How does that change anything that I've said?
Saying the season didn't start off as a disaster when they were in the midst of a long losing streak by the second week of the season is ridiculous.
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Says charlotte will probably offer 5 year max but he will be one of their first calls Friday morning at 1201
I'll pass
Give Batum at the max for 4 years over Noah at 20+ for 4 years any day of the week though.
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Says charlotte will probably offer 5 year max but he will be one of their first calls Friday morning at 1201
I'll pass
Give Batum at the max for 4 years over Noah at 20+ for 4 years any day of the week though.
Well I'm hoping (praying) Noah doesn't cost that much. Can't really see the team that would do it.
$15-17M
Wrong. Lance was released, then given 2 10-day contracts, and then a rest-of-the-year contract. His contract for this year was around 1.6M. The minimum for a player with his years of service was roughly 1.1M.
Just because they didn't have the same level of experience in the league as Afflalo or D-Will doesn't mean they weren't "prove it" type players. What kind of nonsense argument is that?
Name one other instance when a player on a minimum contract or barely above minimum contract locked themselves into a multi-year deal at that same rate. One.
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I mean, the season didn't start off as an extreme disaster - they beat Cleveland in the second or third game of the year.
um, things went badly VERY quickly. By the end of November they were 4-14. And then they only won one game in December.
Right. And as I said, their main piece injured himself in the second game of the year, and their starting PG was basically out for the year by game 7. And their starting 5 looked completely incompetent. How does that change anything that I've said?
Saying the season didn't start off as a disaster when they were in the midst of a long losing streak by the second week of the season is ridiculous.
And I just told you that within the first week, their main piece injured himself and their starting PG went out for the year. Why are you arguing just to argue?
What's not up for debate is the Knicks do need to start winning sooner than later. We can all agree on that.
What happened Dan? I can't get ESPN NY today.
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Hahn is coming off very poorly this week I must say.
What happened Dan? I can't get ESPN NY today.
The other day he said Whiteside was a priority for us (nothing since then, nor is there any indication this is the case from anyone else including follow up from Hahn) then he tweeted we will have a meeting with Durant, doesn't appear to be the case at all). Seems like he's throw more shit out there to get people to tune in.. no way could it have something to do with his show headed to television/MSG could it...?
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Hahn is coming off very poorly this week I must say.
What happened Dan? I can't get ESPN NY today.
The other day he said Whiteside was a priority for us (nothing since then, nor is there any indication this is the case from anyone else including follow up from Hahn) then he tweeted we will have a meeting with Durant, doesn't appear to be the case at all). Seems like he's throw more shit out there to get people to tune in.. no way could it have something to do with his show headed to television/MSG could it...?
Hmm..last week he said Galloaway wasn't in the Knicks plans but someone posted that Phil stated they wanted Gallo back. He also said after the Rose trade that Noah was the target for center. He does seem to be all over the place.
wow you are dense. With regard to Thomas' contract, I was obviously talking about the 15/16 deal which, as YOU JUST SAID, was for more than the min. Once again, why give him that if you're not getting something in return?
Maybe you have your own definition of "prove it contracts" but guys on the fringes of the league and coming off of 10 day contracts are generally not considered in that class. Did you start following this league last month?
Thomas's deal was for 50% more than the min - so giving examples of "barely more than the min" wouldn't be relevant. But if you want current examples there were two transactions THIS WEEK that involved guys who were on deals with team options for tiny amounts: Jordan McCrae and Damjan Rudez. Then there are guys like Norm Powell on Toronto who is on a 3 year deal for $2.5 million total.
Or go back a few years when Chandler Parsons who signed a 4 year deal for $3.6 million as a second rounder (last year was a team option) when second rounders typically do 2 year deals.
And a smart deal for Thomas didn't have to be for barely more than the min. Offer him 4 over 2 years. The guy had barely made any money in his career and was coming off 10 day contracts. A chance at 4 million would have appeal to a guy like that.
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Hahn is coming off very poorly this week I must say.
What happened Dan? I can't get ESPN NY today.
The other day he said Whiteside was a priority for us (nothing since then, nor is there any indication this is the case from anyone else including follow up from Hahn) then he tweeted we will have a meeting with Durant, doesn't appear to be the case at all). Seems like he's throw more shit out there to get people to tune in.. no way could it have something to do with his show headed to television/MSG could it...?
he does seem to be playing to the fans more so than in the past. He knocks Ainge for accumulating picks calling them the "currency of hope" but then gets excited talking about our cap space this summer and next summer.
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I mean, the season didn't start off as an extreme disaster - they beat Cleveland in the second or third game of the year.
um, things went badly VERY quickly. By the end of November they were 4-14. And then they only won one game in December.
Right. And as I said, their main piece injured himself in the second game of the year, and their starting PG was basically out for the year by game 7. And their starting 5 looked completely incompetent. How does that change anything that I've said?
Saying the season didn't start off as a disaster when they were in the midst of a long losing streak by the second week of the season is ridiculous.
And I just told you that within the first week, their main piece injured himself and their starting PG went out for the year. Why are you arguing just to argue?
Melo played the first 15 games of the year. Maybe he wasn't 100% but he's played hurt before over long stretches. Botom line - they were awful with him. And what PG went out for the year? Calderon was back by November. What team were you watching?
Circumstance: Batum was told the offense would run through him as soon as he was acquired in trade a year ago. He lived up to that responsibility, averaging 14.9 points, 6.1 rebounds and 5.8 assists. His biggest value was taking some responsibility off point guard Kemba Walker, allowing him to become more of an attacking scorer.
Impression: General manager Rich Cho has repeatedly said re-signing Batum is his top priority. Cho said he intends to meet with Batum and his agent as soon as free agency begins July 1. Based on his eight seasons in the NBA, Batum is eligible for a maximum contract in the area of $26 million a season.
Chances of a return: 70 percent. Batum made it clear he’d like to return to play for coach Steve Clifford. The Hornets might not offer him the full max, but they have to come in with something above $20 million a season and five years of guarantees to not be in danger of losing him.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article85959417.html#storylink=cpy
Well than that is what Lance should expect
Circumstance: Batum was told the offense would run through him as soon as he was acquired in trade a year ago. He lived up to that responsibility, averaging 14.9 points, 6.1 rebounds and 5.8 assists. His biggest value was taking some responsibility off point guard Kemba Walker, allowing him to become more of an attacking scorer.
I hate the concept of Player X is worth more to his team than other teams. But in this case it's fair. Offensively Batum would be a complimentary piece here, perhaps even a spot up guy. He is less valuable to us than he is to the MJs.
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Hill looking for 9-13 per and is expected to get it, nuts lol
Well than that is what Lance should expect
Well Hill is a little younger (25, 26 next season) Thomas will be 29 next season but yeah.. Lance Thomas should be able to secure roughly 8-10 per, wow lol
Waiters is hopeful to return to the Thunder, but the Kings or 76ers could offer him more than he's worth to try and change his mind. Waiters would have the opportunity to start with either of the aforementioned clubs, although that won't necessarily translate to standard league value for the career 41.1 percent shooter.
Source: Michael Scotto on Twitter Jun 28 - 4:44 PM
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Report: Utah will pursue UFA Luol Deng
The Jazz will reportedly pursue Luol Deng during free agency.
Deng has stated on multiple occasions that his preference would be to remain with Miami, but Utah may be able to steel him away from the franchise during the early goings of free agency while the Heat focus their attention on Kevin Durant and Hassan Whiteside. With Derrick Favors, Rodney Hood, George Hill and Gordon Hayward already all fighting for touches, Deng would only complicate the equation.
Source: Andy Larson on Twitter Jun 28 - 4:13 PM
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Report: 76ers will go after Harrison Barnes
The 76ers reportedly plan to be "serious suitors" for Harrison Barnes during free agency.
Barnes will be a restricted free agent this offseason, so the Warriors will be able to match any offer he signs on the open market, but Philly could potentially pull him away form the Oakland franchise with a poison pill kind of contract. Barnes' preference would be to remain in Golden State, but he'd have much more opportunity to produce in Philly.
Source: Marc Stein on Twitter Jun 28 - 4:01 PM
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I didnt realize that Horford only made $12 million last year. So his cap hold is only $18 million. If he waits a little to officially sign, he creates an extra $10 million in cap space they can play with. OTOH, Bazemore is just an early bird player, so they cant go over the cap to resign him.
They can probably trade for Waiters for very little. With Oladipo there I'd be surprised if they budget money for Waiters.
Supposedly it was spurs or knicks and now it seems knicks are locked on noah...
If spurs sign Gasol that takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes
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confirms the Spurs want Gasol. Sure sounds like it's going to happen.
Supposedly it was spurs or knicks and now it seems knicks are locked on noah...
If spurs sign Gasol that takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes
That would depend on the amount he signs for and if they can clear room by dumping some others.
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confirms the Spurs want Gasol. Sure sounds like it's going to happen.
Supposedly it was spurs or knicks and now it seems knicks are locked on noah...
If spurs sign Gasol that takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes
That would depend on the amount he signs for and if they can clear room by dumping some others.
Do you realize how much they have to dump just to get to a max for
Durant?
Weaknesses include closing out on shooters, fire.
Do you realize how much they have to dump just to get to a max for
Durant?
If Duncan and Manu want to retire, it's not a ton more. Maybe Diaw. I figured it out once.
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Do you realize how much they have to dump just to get to a max for
Durant?
If Duncan and Manu want to retire, it's not a ton more. Maybe Diaw. I figured it out once.
It's diaw and green because they would have so many cap holds, diaw and mills is not enough...
Duncan retiring gives them 20 million in space not taking holds into account, or their first round pick....
Good lord.
Yeah. He is at least decent. Waiters is a bad player.
Barnes on a max deal with no clear star I think could be asking for trouble though. Unfair expectations could make him very unhappy.
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Would give Barnes a max philly came to mind right away. Don't think it's a bad play for them either. Don't see who they are going to pay anytime soon.
Yeah. He is at least decent. Waiters is a bad player.
Barnes on a max deal with no clear star I think could be asking for trouble though. Unfair expectations could make him very unhappy.
There's no telling what Barnes looks like on a team without stars, but I think Simmons gains control of that team day 1. Barnes I think is a Luol Deng glue guy type. Probably higher ceiling, lower floor. But he's 23, he can really blossom on the Sixers. Think they can become pretty respectable pretty quickly if they land him. 25-33 wins.
According to woj Duncan is picking up his option so spurs are pretty much out of the Durant sweepstakes