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bad it is without a PG.

That should be the #1 priority

release jack and save another 6 million in cap or keep him., They have to decide by the 30th.

they are linked to wanting Horford- they have the atkinson connection via hawks and Dominican team.... however i find it hard to see him wanting to look at the nets unless they landed some others first.

Fournier not an option as he will be matched.

Unclear on others.... Lance? not a good idea---- Rondo--- id take him to see how he impacts offensive potential of the young guys.

i would be cool with except for parsons---- dont think the risk matches the reward... you are paying the highs for him.

I like him, but signing him would take minutes away from McCullough � which I am not a fan of. IMO, signings should be done for the backcourt to allow the new draftees someone to play behind for a while.

so i dont think that should matter- and we have so little depth in the front court that playing time wont be an issue if he warrants it.

you question a soon to be 31 year old Horford joining the Nets? I mean he's going to get huge money with what upside? Max money for Horford from the Nets seems like a bad gamble to me.

If he knee is healthy, McCullough should be getting starter or near starter minutes on this team, IMO. Lottery-level talent, when healthy. Signing Horford would block him for years, as any contract to get Al would be huge in terms of money and more importantly years. He's 30 and probably looking for a last big contract.

In comment 13012927 DanMetroMan said:

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you question a soon to be 31 year old Horford joining the Nets? I mean he's going to get huge money with what upside? Max money for Horford from the Nets seems like a bad gamble to me.

it would be odd--- i agree- i would assume they have a PG lined up then- and would be trying to make the playoffs-- while developing the rookies and 2nd year guys --- lets see

is a pipe dream but the Nets need to sign any player of that ilk they can.

Creates assets if anything.

at 30 years old it would be a weird career move to go to a team that's rebuilding. I think it's much more likely they go for someone like Terrance Jones at PF, or even a veteran on big contract with less term that they could just absorb.

I think it's almost a lock they sign 1 of Rondo/Lin/Jennings at PG, but hard to tell who they prefer. Would think if character is as big of a deal as they say it is Lin is the guy, especially with the Atkinson connection.

expect Jeremy Lin to be a Net.

In comment 13012947 DanMetroMan said:

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expect Jeremy Lin to be a Net.

same. Sergio Rodriguez too.

In comment 13012945 Eric on Li said:

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at 30 years old it would be a weird career move to go to a team that's rebuilding. I think it's much more likely they go for someone like Terrance Jones at PF, or even a veteran on big contract with less term that they could just absorb. I think it's almost a lock they sign 1 of Rondo/Lin/Jennings at PG, but hard to tell who they prefer. Would think if character is as big of a deal as they say it is Lin is the guy, especially with the Atkinson connection.

In a league with a salary cap I fail to see the appeal/pull for Horford. I 100% swear this isn't some Knicks fan troll job. Horford will have multiple suitors so it just doesn't make much sense. If the Nets could offer more money that would be a different discussion.

has meetings set up with 3 unnamed teams apparently

In comment 13012927 DanMetroMan said:

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you question a soon to be 31 year old Horford joining the Nets? I mean he's going to get huge money with what upside? Max money for Horford from the Nets seems like a bad gamble to me.

Dan

As currently situated the Nets have the worst roster in the NBA.

Signing Horford makes them better and also gives them the opportunity to look to shop Lopez without leaving a huge void at Center. It's not ideal but in the situation the Nets are in they can't turn down allstar level talent.

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In comment 13012927 DanMetroMan said: Quote: you question a soon to be 31 year old Horford joining the Nets? I mean he's going to get huge money with what upside? Max money for Horford from the Nets seems like a bad gamble to me. Dan As currently situated the Nets have the worst roster in the NBA. Signing Horford makes them better and also gives them the opportunity to look to shop Lopez without leaving a huge void at Center. It's not ideal but in the situation the Nets are in they can't turn down allstar level talent.

As a fan I'm sure I'd rather watch Horford than the alternative but I just don't see the realistic upside for either side. He's not getting any younger and the Nets at minimum won't be competing for a title for another 2 years. If I'm the Nets I think it makes sense to throw out a big sheet to someone like Fournier.

Horford is not going to sign with the Nets. Even if made all sense in the world the reality is he'd have to be a fool to sign with the Nets.

To me, the best hope they can get is to sign Rondo and build an uptempo team around him with guys who can knock down shots.

Let him play PNR with Lopez in the half court and hope some of the young kids develop. Win 30 games and pick up the pieces next year.

That would open up the offense and, I would think, make Lopez more effective. Those two with Hollis-Jefferson would make a nice trio.

Outside throwing a max contract to like Allen Crabbe don't see any top tier FAs coming to Brooklyn. I would hold onto jack. I think he could have trade value come trade deadline (even if it's minimal). There's always some major PG injury and Jack is good depth for a contending team anyways. I think he can pull a second rounder or two come trade deadline.

I think there's more upside in Jennings than Rondo. Jennings is much younger and can still be useful when the nets might be "good" in like 4 years. He's coming off a big injury and has a lot to play for. His earning power is high but not just yet. He isn't getting the big contract these other guards are going to get.

Rondo isn't going to get any better and he isn't really playing for anything. He doesn't give two shits about trying on defense and is what I would call a "selfish" passer. He dribbles the air out of the ball until he can get a sure fire assist at the cost of running an actual offense.

That being said I fully expect the nets to make the incorrect move and throw $60M at rondo.

and 50 million just to reach the salary floor. You might as well attempt to field something decently competitive for the next few seasons since rebuilding with high picks is out of the question. My ideal offseason would look something like this:

You decline the option on Jack and hope that Ellington opts out.

Sign Jennings, Bazemore, Biyombo, Bennett, and Motiejunas.

Playing Biyombo at the 4 does carry some risks defensively.

2016/2017:

Brandon Jennings / Isaiah Whitehead / Yogi Ferrell
Kent Bazemore / Caris Levert / Markel Brown
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson / Bojan Bogdanovic / Sean Kilpatrick
Bismack Biyombo / Chris McCullough / Anthony Bennett
Brook Lopez / Donatas Motiejunas

With the cap rising again in 2017, maybe you go out and grab a guy like Gordon Hayward:

Brandon Jennings / Isaiah Whitehead / Yogi Ferrell
Kent Bazemore / Caris Levert / Markel Brown
Gordon Hayward / Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Sean Kilpatrick
Bismack Biyombo / Chris McCullough / Anthony Bennett
Brook Lopez / Donatas Motiejunas

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That would open up the offense and, I would think, make Lopez more effective. Those two with Hollis-Jefferson would make a nice trio.

Problem with this is despite his numbers Anderson grades out as a poor rebounder and is an awful defender as well. The Nets would likely struggle with a slow footed four and five.

Offensively it would make a lot of sense.

very sad

More seriously, wait for the Celtics to strike out on big UFAs, and then trade them Brook Lopez for your 2017 #1. Nets may have to add, but it significantly alters your outlook for the better.

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More seriously, wait for the Celtics to strike out on big UFAs, and then trade them Brook Lopez for your 2017 #1. Nets may have to add, but it significantly alters your outlook for the better.

Don't see Boston giving them back brooklyns pick. This is supposed to be an insane draft class and a nets pick is the premier non-player asset to have over the next few years.

I think they should hold as is and tank the season and get the number one pick in next year's lottery.

Of their own for 2 more years

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I think they should hold as is and tank the season and get the number one pick in next year's lottery.

If there was any team in position to pull a Sam Hinkie it's BKN. They just cant

In comment 13012947 DanMetroMan said:

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expect Jeremy Lin to be a Net.

I agree. Probably the best fit too. I'm not crazy about Lin, but I'd be very nervous with Rondo or Jennings around young players.

I'd look to trade Brook for picks. Maybe Boston gives up their 1st! :-D

I have no idea why any in demand FA would choose to go to the Nets right now and I think ultimately Lin is the guy that makes the most sense for Brooklyn, mostly because I don't know that there are any other teams out there where he'd start.

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I think they should hold as is and tank the season and get the number one pick in next year's lottery.

Do they have that pick?? Doesnt Boston have swap rights?? If not I agree with you.

The only way to improve in the NBA currently is to have some bad seasons and nail your picks. Otherwise you are stuck in Limbo with overpaying mediocre Free Agents cause the big guys want to go to winning teams.

then I believe the trade is complete? Either way the Nets are going to have to employ the Spurs model of rebuilding, without having Duncan/Parker as the foundation. Partly why I could see Marks being very high on Horford is that seems to have the type of game that could age well like Duncan, and I'm not sure there are going to max out a 30 year old big man. But all it takes is 1 other team and it sounds like Atlanta wants him back so I don't see how the Nets will get them, despite being interested.

To be successful, the Nets are going to have to get lucky and be very smart. They'll need to find a couple quality starters out of nowhere like the Blazers did with McCullom and GS did with Draymond (eventually 1 of the Mccullogh/Leverts of the world will need to be a hit). Lopez will need to continue his evolution under Atkinson. They'll also need to make savy veteran acquisitions, like the Hawks did with Millsap + Korver or Memphis did at the start of their run with Randolph when nobody really wanted him. They'll need to round out a deep lineup because it's almost impossible to see them acquiring a traditional super star they can build around. The most talented player I could realistically see them getting this offseason is Rondo, and if he has his head on straight that could give them 1 legitimate building block. I think Lin's more likely but should be an interesting offseason because I suspect they are going to make several moves.

Kyler reports the Nets are prepared to offer Rondo a max deal if he will sign with them but that Rondo won't take it unless they sign an additional piece.

from an agent days before FA. Before the Rose trade Rondo's camp leaked his desire to be in NY or BKN, now that the Knicks are out because they got Rose there are even stronger rumors that BKN is going big for him. I think his agent is putting that out there to create a market for him. I don't doubt the Nets are interested, I do doubt they'd give him a max deal (which I think would be like 30m/year for him).

as i trust the coach and GM have done their diligence given they are trying to change culture.
the team needs a PG if it wants to evaluate these young players- especially offensively.
lets see how it evolves.

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as i trust the coach and GM have done their diligence given they are trying to change culture. the team needs a PG if it wants to evaluate these young players- especially offensively. lets see how it evolves.

If they're trying to change the culture to more in tune to Sacramento, then Rondo is the ideal player for that.

was a POS when he arrived at the nets- according to most. If i trust the coach and GM-- then i have to trust the player---- not sure why thats hard to understand.

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was a POS when he arrived at the nets- according to most. If i trust the coach and GM-- then i have to trust the player---- not sure why thats hard to understand.

Agreed - it's easy to see both the potential upside/downside, so just need to trust management. I think you could make a really good argument for both Rondo (obvious all star talent who has won a ring) or Lin (high character guy who is at the age many PG's bloom, worst case is already proven to be a very good 6th man).

is lin... as expected.

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Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 11h11 hours ago Houston, New Orleans, Brooklyn and Los Angeles Lakers also interested in Conley, sources say

Looks like Nets are going to tender Markel Brown too

Is that the nets get a point guard
Jennings work out today
Lin meetings begin and would assume rondo as well

Grizzlies or mavs will get Conley

Leaves pg teams as basically nets and Dallas if they whiff on Conley - and maybe Sacramento- Detroit signed ish smith.

And then they target the restricted guys.
Looks like they want to be smaller and younger - I'm cool with that- just hoping they can grab an additional starter to go with a pg- would leave the team better then last year if they can do that with much more youth and upside/structure

i dont think that removes others from the equation on the PG side.

hoping they can get a forward and shooter.

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i wouldnt be surprised if they still tried to get another PG as well- with Lin being flexible to be a combo guard too.

they didnt overpay...

David Aldridge ✔ @daldridgetnt
Nets also working hard on Kent Bazemore�another former Atkinson connection, per source. But Rockets� presentation late Thursday was strong.

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played really well in that role last year and obviously he's a solid, hardworking veteran presence (which this team desperately needs). He basically assumed Thad Young's salary slot, which given the going price for Timofey Mozgov's is a very nice contract.

is solid.

The Nets aren't competing for a title anytime soon, so the best they can do is put a competitive team on the floor that is entertaining to watch for a few years. Adding a legit PG, who has a little history in NY, is a solid first move.

Celtics have created a scrappy team that somehow wins way more games than they should given talent level and the Hawks simply made sensible veteran acquisitions and mid round draft picks. More important than adding talent is building a competitive team and winning culture.

Justin Hamilton
His tape looks like he is a skilled big who can contribute.
Small deal.

Waiting on the wing position-

Anyone have any insight?

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Tyler Johnson will reportedly sign an offer sheet with the Brooklyn Nets worth $50 million:

Getting some praise from D Wade on Twitter as well

Lin, Hamilton, Booker, and Johnson. I can still see Crabbe and Humphries as possibilities.

4 year 70 mil. Portland won't match. Seeing this pop up on Twitter

Looks like Nets are yet to make the offer

This would be an amazing offseason.

A young athletic team that can grow over the next 3 years- with talent that has potential to be relevant.

Fingers crossed

I love the strategy especially when entering the offseason with little to offer to any vet wanting to win now

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This would be an amazing offseason. A young athletic team that can grow over the next 3 years- with talent that has potential to be relevant. Fingers crossed I love the strategy especially when entering the offseason with little to offer to any vet wanting to win now

Agree man. Love what Marks is doing. Twitter going apeshit over the assumed price. Kid is 24 years old.