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DC sports radio: Redskins floor is minimum 11 win season

NYG27 : 6/30/2016 1:21 pm
Driving to work this morning, turned on DC sports radio to hear about the Andrew Luck contract. After spending 20 minutes on Luck, they started talking about the floor for the Redskins was 11 wins minimum.

I can understand being optimistic and hoping for a 10+ win season but seems crazy that they think the minimum win total for this team is 11 wins. Especially for a team that didn't beat any other team that had a winning record last year and now plays a first place schedule.

Personally I think they have a good shot to go 0-3. Their first two home games are against the Steelers and Cowboys who will both have a healthy Big Ben and Tony Romo playing. Then in week 3 they travel to play the Giants on the road. They'd be very fortunate to even win one of those 3 games.
they will never learn  
Jints in Carolina : 6/30/2016 1:23 pm : link
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you like that?  
Rocky369 : 6/30/2016 1:26 pm : link
you like that???
lol  
djm : 6/30/2016 1:27 pm : link
I wouldn't even say that the Pats floor is minimum 11 wins but have at it! Skins fans are a treasure.
minimum?  
djm : 6/30/2016 1:29 pm : link
so they are saying the very worst the Skins will do is 11-5 even if everything were to go wrong in 2016?

Skins fans should learn how to read. Then buy a dictionary. Then learn what the word minimum actually means. Then take that knowledge and try to apply it to print. BUt first they would need to write.
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Greg from LI : 6/30/2016 1:30 pm : link
fuckers luck into a bullshit 9-7 division title without beating a  
Greg from LI : 6/30/2016 1:31 pm : link
single winning team, get their asses whipped at home in the playoffs, and now they're a juggernaut. Skins fans always have been and always will be the worst.
Redskins fans in June  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/30/2016 1:31 pm : link
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcz_kDCBTBk[/img]
fail  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/30/2016 1:32 pm : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcz_kDCBTBk
So this is the best Washington team  
an_idol_mind : 6/30/2016 1:33 pm : link
since 1991? Because that's the last time that franchise won more than 10 games in the regular season.
aaaaaand Redskins fans in January  
Greg from LI : 6/30/2016 1:38 pm : link
Don't fault them. They are very sick people.  
Boy Cord : 6/30/2016 1:38 pm : link
I love this. They are set up for such a big fall. This year will mark a quarter century of futility. I can't say it enough. If you are a 30 y/o DC Football Club fan you basically know what it's like to be a Browns fan. Their arrow may be pointing in a more positive slope than the Browns, but big picture it has been the same.
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Danny Kanell : 6/30/2016 1:43 pm : link
I think there's a significantly better chance they finish in last place than win 11 games.
It wouldn't be as fun  
mrvax : 6/30/2016 1:43 pm : link
if they predicted an 8-8 year then got the snot beat out of them.

11-5 for the 2016 Redskins is not possible under any circumstance.

NFL teams that have a "fight song" always have the dumbest fans. Not sure why it is but it is.
Have they  
old man : 6/30/2016 1:44 pm : link
actually looked at their schedule?
The Washington Redskins  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/30/2016 1:45 pm : link
Champions of the Off-Season!!!!
I think  
Randy in CT : 6/30/2016 1:48 pm : link
that 8-8 is reasonable for them.
I bet they have them  
superspynyg : 6/30/2016 1:49 pm : link
sweeping the division 6-0.
Required Post  
Trainmaster : 6/30/2016 1:51 pm : link


Come on though  
kporzee : 6/30/2016 2:01 pm : link
Just because 1 hack says that makes it what all redskins people think?

11 wins for just about any team is really freaking good.
Better chance they go 6-10, than 11-5.  
Tom in NY : 6/30/2016 2:01 pm : link
That out of division schedule is brutal.
RE: Come on though  
NYG27 : 6/30/2016 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13015827 kporzee said:
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Just because 1 hack says that makes it what all redskins people think?

11 wins for just about any team is really freaking good.


They opened up the phones lines and majority of all the callers agreed with the two hosts, Kevin Sheehan and Chris Cooley. Only guy who didn't was a Steelers fan who called and predicted 7-8 win season, which sounds reasonable.
to be fair  
djm : 6/30/2016 2:15 pm : link
the Skins have been the best team in the NFC East over the last 4 seasons. They have two division titles while Philly has one and Dallas has one. Their fans are still idiotic mouth breathing mutants but they haven't been a bad team lately. Just not very good and there's plenty of room for slippage this season.

I guess they are spoiled lately. Two decent years has them drunk with optimism.
If you tell them they are going to lose their first 3 games,  
Doomster : 6/30/2016 2:20 pm : link
without blinking, they will say they will go 11-2 the rest of the way....
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Danny Kanell : 6/30/2016 2:20 pm : link
Looking at their schedule, you can make a strong case that they'll win 6 or 7 games, tops.

Link - ( New Window )
Schedule  
kporzee : 6/30/2016 2:27 pm : link
The Schedule is way harder, but it's also hard to look at a schedule in June and say how it plays out. Those things always tend to look different than initially thought.
well here is the obvious  
mdc1 : 6/30/2016 2:38 pm : link
they were better last year and likely improved this year and not much on the offseason claims of championships. Different organization unless they regress to Snyder dysfunction.

Look at us, we are yet to prove that we can consistently win back to back games for a winning season and with the official record. Many seasons now.

We are proclaiming a successful season without our offseason acquisitions with no evidence of winning. We kind of sound like the old offseason champ redskins don't we? Lets play the games and see how the numbers look and find out. Our team has a lot to prove. The skins have improved and likely getting better.
11 wins is hard to predict  
NINEster : 6/30/2016 2:41 pm : link
even for consensus top 5 teams in the NFL year in and year out.

And to set it as a minimum is crazy.
Just 11?  
NoPeanutz : 6/30/2016 2:47 pm : link
The Skins propaganda machine is mellowing out
RE: .  
JohnVB : 6/30/2016 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13015863 Danny Kanell said:
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Looking at their schedule, you can make a strong case that they'll win 6 or 7 games, tops. Link - ( New Window )



Yep.

Pitt, Cincy, Minny, GB, Car, and AZ look like lock losses unless those teams get hit by injuries.

That's 6 losses right there without touching the division.
RE: RE: .  
BillKo : 6/30/2016 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13016021 JohnVB said:
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In comment 13015863 Danny Kanell said:


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Looking at their schedule, you can make a strong case that they'll win 6 or 7 games, tops. Link - ( New Window )




Yep.

Pitt, Cincy, Minny, GB, Car, and AZ look like lock losses unless those teams get hit by injuries.

That's 6 losses right there without touching the division.


How can you count those as six losses? In no way is that definitive.

Tell me they are going to lose the majority, ok. But all six?
RE: Come on though  
montanagiant : 6/30/2016 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13015827 kporzee said:
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Just because 1 hack says that makes it what all redskins people think?

11 wins for just about any team is really freaking good.

Obviously you have not followed this teams fan base over the years. This is regular occurrence for the media and fans that covers them (mainly because Snyder controls most of the coverage).
the Giants and Cowboys rosters have problems...  
Torrag : 6/30/2016 4:15 pm : link
...but the Redskins are still the third most talented club in the NFC East.
well, all of those teams had winning records last season  
Greg from LI : 6/30/2016 4:16 pm : link
And the Redskins were allergic to beating winning teams last year.
RE: RE: Come on though  
T-Bone : 6/30/2016 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13016055 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13015827 kporzee said:


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Just because 1 hack says that makes it what all redskins people think?

11 wins for just about any team is really freaking good.


Obviously you have not followed this teams fan base over the years. This is regular occurrence for the media and fans that covers them (mainly because Snyder controls most of the coverage).


This is 100% true. Although there are SOME realistic Skins fans (my wife happens to be one)... I'd say 90% of their fan base would've thought 11 wins as a floor had the team finished in LAST place LAST season. Every team has fans that no matter what reality is telling them their team is going undefeated every year. But when it comes to the Skins? It's almost as if the team has some kind of weird mind control over them and most of them think they're winning it all every year. It's pretty crazy actually.
mdc1  
DieHard : 6/30/2016 5:07 pm : link
Let me get this straight.

There's a team that hasn't won a championship in 25 years, and in that span hasn't won over 10 games in a season, with only 8 winning seasons total (compared to the Giants' two Super Bowls and 11 winning seasons in the same timeframe). This team has also crashed after a good season numerous times, without fail. Fans of this team predict the team won't win LESS than 11 games this year even though they didn't beat a team with a winning record last year, and the schedule is much tougher this year. And your takeaway is that Giants fans are being too uppity?

Man, you really *are* a bitter fuck.
while they are improved in terms of talent  
NYG07 : 6/30/2016 5:34 pm : link
11 wins as a floor is laughable. No one wins this division two years in a row. They are likely an 8-8 team. The NFL east will come down to the Giants and Cowboys this year IMO.
Kirk Cousins is their quarterback.  
Mr. Bungle : 6/30/2016 5:52 pm : link
And they don't have a Top 10 defense.

So.........they're not winning 11.
I don't know about that  
ghost718 : 6/30/2016 6:27 pm : link
but they're an improved team,better than people will admit.
That's a lot.  
FStubbs : 6/30/2016 6:34 pm : link
I'm assuming that means if the team is completely healthy.

They're solid on both lines, have an ham and egger at QB (even if they pretend he's a franchise QB), and have one of the deeper stable of recievers in the league. Some huge questions in their secondary even if they think Josh Norman is prime Deion (he's not). 11 is hyperbole, but I'd say a floor of 7-8 wins for a team like that is reasonable.
Maybe the thing that gives them confidence  
FStubbs : 6/30/2016 6:36 pm : link
Is that they were #31 in injuries last season. They'll almost assuredly be healthier.
I think they should be the favorites to win the Division  
yatqb : 6/30/2016 6:48 pm : link
given their play last year (especially later in the season when Cousins seemed to come into his own). That said, an 11 win floor is a bit much to expect. I see the Division winner, whichever team that is, winning 10 games at most.
They had a lot of things go right for them last year, and a number  
PatersonPlank : 6/30/2016 6:56 pm : link
of lucky wins. They are my favorite team for biggest bust this season.
RE: They had a lot of things go right for them last year, and a number  
montanagiant : 6/30/2016 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13016348 PatersonPlank said:
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of lucky wins. They are my favorite team for biggest bust this season.

Absolutely agree
11 as the floor is crazy...  
aceinthehouse : 6/30/2016 7:43 pm : link
But if healthy, they're the best team in the division.

#31 in injuries Las yr and still win 9?
Damn!

They can beat Pit Monday night opener.
The cincy game, is a road game in london.
Very winnable.

The packers, Carolina and cards games will be tests.

Minny is overrated.

They get Clev, Ravens which they can win.

Then you have the div. Games .
Where it all matters.

Even if they split, they can get to 10 wins.

Most likely, they get 4 wins right there.

Have you guys seen or taken a gander at they're offensive weapons?

Against the def. In this division?

They averaged 30 pts in there last 8 games Last yr.
Jackson was hurt for 6 and reed 3 or 4.
Early on...

Now they added josh doctson and Vernon davis

Not to mention their def is better.
Sue, Norman, fuller...

Redskins may or may NOT win 11?

But they'll win in back-to-back yrs, since its been done in 2004.

Stating 11 wins is the floor for w s in the NFL  
joeinpa : 6/30/2016 8:10 pm : link
Is a ridiculous statement and not really worthy of debate.
Vernon Davis fucking sucks  
djm : 6/30/2016 8:21 pm : link
He's not an addition. He's camp fodder.
RE: 11 as the floor is crazy...  
ThatLimerickGuy : 6/30/2016 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13016391 aceinthehouse said:
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But if healthy, they're the best team in the division.

#31 in injuries Las yr and still win 9?
Damn!

They can beat Pit Monday night opener.
The cincy game, is a road game in london.
Very winnable.

The packers, Carolina and cards games will be tests.

Minny is overrated.

They get Clev, Ravens which they can win.

Then you have the div. Games .
Where it all matters.

Even if they split, they can get to 10 wins.

Most likely, they get 4 wins right there.

Have you guys seen or taken a gander at they're offensive weapons?

Against the def. In this division?

They averaged 30 pts in there last 8 games Last yr.
Jackson was hurt for 6 and reed 3 or 4.
Early on...

Now they added josh doctson and Vernon davis

Not to mention their def is better.
Sue, Norman, fuller...

Redskins may or may NOT win 11?

But they'll win in back-to-back yrs, since its been done in 2004.


Yeah.....so I don't think you understand what the ranking of being 31st in injuries means. It means they were the 2nd LEAST injured team last year.

For context, if the Giants were 31st in that category they would be division Champs and Tom Coughlin would be manning the sidelines in 2016.
RE: RE: 11 as the floor is crazy...  
FStubbs : 6/30/2016 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13016429 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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In comment 13016391 aceinthehouse said:


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But if healthy, they're the best team in the division.

#31 in injuries Las yr and still win 9?
Damn!

They can beat Pit Monday night opener.
The cincy game, is a road game in london.
Very winnable.

The packers, Carolina and cards games will be tests.

Minny is overrated.

They get Clev, Ravens which they can win.

Then you have the div. Games .
Where it all matters.

Even if they split, they can get to 10 wins.

Most likely, they get 4 wins right there.

Have you guys seen or taken a gander at they're offensive weapons?

Against the def. In this division?

They averaged 30 pts in there last 8 games Last yr.
Jackson was hurt for 6 and reed 3 or 4.
Early on...

Now they added josh doctson and Vernon davis

Not to mention their def is better.
Sue, Norman, fuller...

Redskins may or may NOT win 11?

But they'll win in back-to-back yrs, since its been done in 2004.




Yeah.....so I don't think you understand what the ranking of being 31st in injuries means. It means they were the 2nd LEAST injured team last year.

For context, if the Giants were 31st in that category they would be division Champs and Tom Coughlin would be manning the sidelines in 2016.


You've got it backwards. They were 31st meaning only the Giants had more injuries.

Granted, there is a huge gaping chasm between their injuries and our injuries IIRC.
They may well be the best team in the division...  
Crispino : 6/30/2016 9:44 pm : link
which remains to be seen. But 11 wins as worst case scenario is just so...Redskins fan like. Confidence is one thing, but delusional is the defining characteristic of the die hard Redskin fan base.
RE: 11 as the floor is crazy...  
Boy Cord : 6/30/2016 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13016391 aceinthehouse said:
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But if healthy, they're the best team in the division.

#31 in injuries Las yr and still win 9?
Damn!

They can beat Pit Monday night opener.
The cincy game, is a road game in london.
Very winnable.

The packers, Carolina and cards games will be tests.

Minny is overrated.

They get Clev, Ravens which they can win.

Then you have the div. Games .
Where it all matters.

Even if they split, they can get to 10 wins.

Most likely, they get 4 wins right there.

Have you guys seen or taken a gander at they're offensive weapons?

Against the def. In this division?

They averaged 30 pts in there last 8 games Last yr.
Jackson was hurt for 6 and reed 3 or 4.
Early on...

Now they added josh doctson and Vernon davis

Not to mention their def is better.
Sue, Norman, fuller...

Redskins may or may NOT win 11?

But they'll win in back-to-back yrs, since its been done in 2004.


You're an idiot. Seriously. Just a typical delusional DC fan.
RE: Vernon Davis fucking sucks  
mrvax : 6/30/2016 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13016428 djm said:
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He's not an addition. He's camp fodder.


He was a good player...up until 3 years ago.
Are they really that dumb?  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/30/2016 10:57 pm : link
Jesus Christ.
11 wins, and they'll be  
CT Charlie : 6/30/2016 11:02 pm : link
SEC champions.
11 wins is possible  
Glover : 7/1/2016 11:55 pm : link
but to say it's a floor is a little ridiculous.
RE: Required Post  
Glover : 7/1/2016 11:56 pm : link
In comment 13015803 Trainmaster said:
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Uh, that would be the Giants this year.
Careful  
micky : 7/2/2016 7:40 am : link
You may stir up the "Hackensack Big Wheel Riders"
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