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NFT: Cubs and Mets game 1

ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 4:38 pm
Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo – RF
Neil Walker – 2B
Yoenis Cespedes – CF
James Loney – 1B
Asdrubal Cabrera – SS
Kelly Johnson – LF
Wilmer Flores – 3B
Travis d’Arnaud – C
Steven Matz – LHP

Cubs Lineup

Ben Zobrist – RF
Kris Bryant – 3B
Anthony Rizzo – 1B
W. Contreras – C
Javier Baez – 2B
Matt Szczur – LF
Addison Russell – SS
John Lackey – RHP
Albert Almora – CF
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RE: We should expect DW to be done  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13016430 spike said:
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And have zero contribution in the future


I think he retires in the offseason. He MIGHT give it one more go next year just to test his body out and see how it responded from the surgery but his time is really just about done IMO. I also no longer think he has ANY chance to make it back this year even to be added to the playoff bench.
RE: Thanks Phi  
PhiPsi125 : 6/30/2016 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13016420 ZGiants98 said:
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The guy comes out once a year... You guys all see what he does. Yeesh.


Sorry man, I kinda went off the rails today.

But this guy is a stain on society. Whatever, he'll disappear again soon.
Nimmo  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:25 pm : link
Is no Zobrist lol
I actually like Nimmo  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:27 pm : link
He looks like he belongs out there, and not just as a fourth outfielder
RE: I actually like Nimmo  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13016437 spike said:
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He looks like he belongs out there, and not just as a fourth outfielder


Im quietly optimistic. Do we have the time to be patient though? There's clearly an adjustment level. Very rarely do guys just jump out and are immediately good and even when they do (Conforto) they might still be due for a huge regression/slump when the league corrects itself. Its so frustrating. Our lineup is desperate for offense and we have 4-5 guys that are killing it in Vegas lol.
NP.  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 8:32 pm : link
Phi.
Conforto has been the most notable under performer.  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 8:32 pm : link
Probably Harvey too. deGrom hasn't been as good as we thought but he hasn't been bad at all.

Who else is totally underperforming, though? I think Granderson pretty clearly overperformed last year.. I didn't expect him to repeat his 2015. He's basically doing what I thought he would. 25 HR pop.. low average, etc..

d'Arnaud hasn't really played enough to say he's underperforming but obviously he's got to be better.

Cespedes, Walker and Cabrera have all basically been what I thought they'd be. Ditto Lagares (before he got hurt)

It's definitely playing a role but so are the injuries. To say the injuries aren't making a difference right now is crazy. We won 13 of our last 15 games to close out April with a healthy team and closed the month on an 8 game winning streak. This team really hasn't looked the same since.
Lets go  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:37 pm : link
Matz!
I love  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:38 pm : link
Matz not taking shit from Lackey
I posted everyone's OPSs  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 8:38 pm : link
next to their career averages the other day. I agree Granderson probably isn't the 130s guy he was last year but I was hoping for closer to his career average of 118 so I would certainly say he's one guy that's underperformed. For a leadoff hitter he hasn't been walking nearly enough either. Still, he's always been streaky. A hot 2 weeks would bring him right back up to his career averages which certainly could still happen. He's at 107 right now.
He has to hit  
Rflairr : 6/30/2016 8:38 pm : link
Give it right back to him
Dude I wish Matz  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 8:39 pm : link
would have beat his ass. THAT's what this team needs to wake the fuck up. lol
Dang it  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:40 pm : link
Almost
Fuckin Cubs outfielders  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:40 pm : link
Catch everything
Bummer  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:41 pm : link
Almost got to Lackey
Arc, I'm not saying that injuries don't play a part...they clearly do  
PhiPsi125 : 6/30/2016 8:42 pm : link
Essentially, three players carried us through April offensively...Conforto, Walker, and Cespedes. Almost everyone else was pitiful. If Granderson was overperforming last year, then we are in trouble. The bench has been awful. Call ups have been bad. We literally can't even buy any help. Reyes comes to the Mets and goes 0 for 9 in the minors (I know, I know). But still.

I feel like every year we have the same conversation in regards to the team going through the motions and being stuck in an uninspired rut. Every damn year. Maybe there is something to that?

Sorry I came at you a bit today. Just particularly salty about the mets right now. My bad.
Jose Reyes 0-4 tonight again so far.  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 8:44 pm : link
WTF. Guy can't even hit AA pitching?
Game over  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:45 pm : link
No way we score 4 runs tonight
Time to fire up  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:46 pm : link
The pen
104 pitches  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:50 pm : link
Successful outing given his elbow problems

The Mets just cannot string together enough hits
RE: Arc, I'm not saying that injuries don't play a part...they clearly do  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 8:52 pm : link
In comment 13016454 PhiPsi125 said:
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Essentially, three players carried us through April offensively...Conforto, Walker, and Cespedes. Almost everyone else was pitiful. If Granderson was overperforming last year, then we are in trouble. The bench has been awful. Call ups have been bad. We literally can't even buy any help. Reyes comes to the Mets and goes 0 for 9 in the minors (I know, I know). But still.

I feel like every year we have the same conversation in regards to the team going through the motions and being stuck in an uninspired rut. Every damn year. Maybe there is something to that?

Sorry I came at you a bit today. Just particularly salty about the mets right now. My bad.


It's cool, man. Everyone's just frustrated right now. It's really tough to watch this and it doesn't feel like there's any end in sight. After that similarly miserable offensive stretch last year, I think we all felt like that was gone for good and that we'd have a really solid, productive lineup this year.

It's almost hard to believe we're right back to watching an equally futile lineup day in and day out.. but here we are.
Lol  
spike : 6/30/2016 8:54 pm : link
Why cant we play the Reds?
I gotta at least give Matz some credit.  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 8:55 pm : link
Kid battled tonight. I'm sure his elbow is really uncomfortable right now but he went out there and gave us what he could. Unfortunately we don't give any of our starters any run support so he has nothing to show for it.
RE: Lol  
Mike in NY : 6/30/2016 8:55 pm : link
In comment 13016467 spike said:
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Why cant we play the Reds?


We would be swept by them
Agree about Matz  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 8:59 pm : link
Goeddel has quietly been very good since he's been back too. I thought Henderson was a nice pickup but Goeddel has actually been better so far. No drop-off thats for sure.
Well that felt good at least  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:02 pm : link
Thanks Ces.
Somebody posted this on another board  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:13 pm : link
but its kind of crazy...

We have the third highest hard hit ball percentage in the MLB (1st in NL), but also have the 2nd lowest BABIP.


So not only have we been hit by injuries and have had a bunch of guys underperform or disappoint BUT.... we have also been one of the most unluckiest teams in baseball too. lol
Why De Aza??  
spike : 6/30/2016 9:20 pm : link
What about Degrom or Syndergaard or Reynolds?
Come on Nimmo!  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:27 pm : link
Gapper here!
HR here  
spike : 6/30/2016 9:28 pm : link
Kid
I can't even get my hopes up, man..  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 9:30 pm : link
I know how this is ending.

Ugh.
Love the  
spike : 6/30/2016 9:34 pm : link
Kid
He did it!  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 9:35 pm : link
Can we fucking tie this thing?
YES!!  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:35 pm : link
Hell of a nice atbat by both ADA and NImmo.
Come on Walker.  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:36 pm : link
Single gives us the lead.
Ill take a long sac fly too!  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:37 pm : link
Don't need to be greedy!
Please don't K  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 9:38 pm : link
.
How about  
spike : 6/30/2016 9:39 pm : link
A sac fly
YES!!!  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 9:39 pm : link
.
Fuckin love Nimmo  
spike : 6/30/2016 9:39 pm : link
Always has a smile on his face
WHOO!!  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:40 pm : link
HAHA!
Ill tell you what, Nimmo has a lot of poise  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:41 pm : link
I like this kid a lot.
Gotta get  
spike : 6/30/2016 9:41 pm : link
Insurance runs
Too bad  
spike : 6/30/2016 9:45 pm : link
That shouldve been a double
RE: Too bad  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13016523 spike said:
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That shouldve been a double


BABIP!
Youuuuuuge K  
arcarsenal : 6/30/2016 9:58 pm : link
.
Wow.  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 9:59 pm : link
One more Reed. Come on.
Come on  
spike : 6/30/2016 10:03 pm : link
Bullpen
have to bring  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2016 10:04 pm : link
in Familia for the 4 out save
Man Reed is spent.  
ZGiants98 : 6/30/2016 10:04 pm : link
Go to Blevins...
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