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NFT: Adnan Syed (Serial) conviction vacated, granted new trial

Deej : 6/30/2016 5:14 pm
I thought that so long as his raising of the issues was timely/allowed under the law, logically this was a necessary outcome.
Motion was granted because his lawyer  
Deej : 6/30/2016 5:17 pm : link
failed to cross examine the state's witness re cell tower evidence. Denied on the grounds of failing to talk to the potential alibi witness.
Sarah Koenig's heart just skipped a beat  
BurberryManning : 6/30/2016 5:25 pm : link
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I think he did it  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2016 5:26 pm : link
But (and I'm no lawyer) it didn't seem like there was enough evidence
I thought  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/30/2016 5:28 pm : link
The prosecutions main witness (whatever his name is) was guilty as sin. That guy did it. It's about the only thing I can remember about it.
RE: I think he did it  
Deej : 6/30/2016 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13016236 giantsfan44ab said:
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But (and I'm no lawyer) it didn't seem like there was enough evidence


Where I ultimately came down was that there was really no evidence he did it without Jay, and Jay clearly lied his ass off. There was a bunch of circumstantial evidence that didnt look great for him. He would have had to have been really unlucky. But there were innocent explanations too.

There is no way they retry this in my opinion. So the real question becomes whether he takes an Alford Plea (pleads guilty without admitting act and maintains innocence). Or whether the charges just get dropped.
RE: I thought  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2016 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13016243 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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The prosecutions main witness (whatever his name is) was guilty as sin. That guy did it. It's about the only thing I can remember about it.


The guy was fishy. But I didn't think he did it. It's been a while since I was familiar with the case so even though I wanted to pin him guilty there was something that made me think he couldn't have done it. He definetly BS'd some stuff though. He for sure knows what exactly happened.
It's been a while but I came away thinking he killed her and jay  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 6/30/2016 8:03 pm : link
Was his drug dealer.
I thought he did it  
kporzee : 6/30/2016 11:14 pm : link
What is the precedent in terms of having a new trial so far after the original incident? Like obviously stuff has been rehashed, but still asking to remember perfect details from so long ago is hard.
Jay put them on Adnan  
mattlawson : 7/1/2016 8:01 am : link
I think the cops somehow worked with Jay and gave him the location of the car, really helped Jays case along. Undisclosed podcast really builds that theory up pretty conclusively.

All the prosecution had was Jay - really.
As presented by Serial  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/1/2016 8:08 am : link
I didn't think there was nearly enough evidence to convict Adnan beyond a reasonable doubt.

However, the more I reflected after listening (when I wasn't as wrapped up in the wanting for it to be a compelling conspiracy), the less clean Adnan's hands seemed to be.

So while he may have deserved all the time he spent in jail, our criminal justice system has a very high burden of proof precisely to prevent innocent people from criminal punishment.

also  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/1/2016 8:09 am : link
since we are on the topic of Serial, it's always worth watching this every once in a while.

SNL's parody of Serial was one of the best shorts they did in a long time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXbJjuZqbc - ( New Window )
he did it  
Motley Two : 7/1/2016 8:11 am : link
dude's a liar
RE: I think he did it  
bradshaw44 : 7/1/2016 8:57 am : link
In comment 13016236 giantsfan44ab said:
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But (and I'm no lawyer) it didn't seem like there was enough evidence


After listening to Serial I thought he did it too, but wouldn't have convicted him if I were on the jury. After listening to the Undisclosed Podcast it's frightening how innocent I think he is. The second podcast brings a lot of crazy things in to the light. It's worth a listen.
RE: RE: I think he did it  
giantsfan44ab : 7/2/2016 1:24 am : link
In comment 13016944 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 13016236 giantsfan44ab said:


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But (and I'm no lawyer) it didn't seem like there was enough evidence



After listening to Serial I thought he did it too, but wouldn't have convicted him if I were on the jury. After listening to the Undisclosed Podcast it's frightening how innocent I think he is. The second podcast brings a lot of crazy things in to the light. It's worth a listen.


The Undisclosed podcast (from what I read) was extremely biased and left a out important facts so I never thought to listen.
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