....and he must go down hahrd.
What is the under over for Romo this year for games played? I've gotta tell you, I think he's gonna take a shot in the opener that will dictate the rest of his season and not in a good way. Vernon abused T. Smith last year which is a major part of why he was signed (to me, anyway).
Dallas is a serious state of flux all around with an OL that isn't exactly good at pass protection.
10 sacks in 2 playoff games last year. Yes. 10.
I feel strongly that Spags has the horses and will have NASCAR 2.0 rolling this year. If we take his binky away in Witten and double Dez with a safety over the top, the other guys in Dallas aren't making me lose any sleep.
This preseason is starting to feel like Christmas for me. I'm hopeful that we get a least one, good, clean shot on Romo to see where that back and collarbone are. And I do mean a clean shot. I know I paraphrased ol' Al Davis in the thread title, but I still believe in getting after the QB and getting after him good, but within the rules.
Bring pressure with the front four and an occasional Bullets blitzer and let's see if Tony the Tiger is a 'lil gunshy. I'm almost betting on it. The Dolphins had Romo shook up early with two picks but then had Tannehill throw the pick to McClain for a TD which really changed the course of the game.
Throw the house at Romo early to see where he is physically. He looks old and brittle to me when I see the game highlights from last year. I can't wait to see what another year does for Romo.
Also, did Dez seem a little slow footed to you last year, as well? All that partying will catch up to you. Except if you're Keith Richards. Then it just mummifies you.
Hell, if it means the Eagles and the Skins get two wins apiece, so can we.
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any Mod can delete a thread whether without your say so. Just saying...
That was me being facetious, Mike. Ive been deleted before. But thanks.
No problems brother. Just wasn't sure you were aware. That's all. Enjoy the weekend.
Again, someone who actually read the original post. All I want to see is him take a good hard shot within the context of the game to see if he's going to continue to stand in the pocket or not. I just want to see where he is mentally. Honestly, I don't see him finishing a 16-game schedule regardless of who hits him.
Perhaps you didn't read your original post because the subtext of the opening lines suggest an enthusiasm for Romo getting hurt.
Not a ton of room for interpretation.
He won't make it to Week 8.
I don't know about that.
He's far better than Russell Wilson. I'm grateful he's not in the NFC West.
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because he is no Aikman and keeps the Cowboys as an average team.
I don't know about that.
He's far better than Russell Wilson. I'm grateful he's not in the NFC West.
Far better than Russell Wilson? What are you smoking, I'd love to try some... They may be comparable as passers, but Russell Wilson is so much better with his legs, as a team leader and decision maker, and so much more of a winner, that it's not even worth arguing about. He's also ten times tougher than Romo, and several years younger. Wilson is the only QB in the NFL who is a threat as a runner and NEVER gets hurt. That's both because of his toughness and because he sees the whole field so much better than Romo ever could. In almost every category, there is simply no comparison between the two players, IMO.
Alex Smith would have won the Super Bowl in 2013 with Seattle, and Romo would have done it very easily.
Colin Kaepernick has played in a super bowl and almost won it. Are you ready to give him his due, or just slant your anti-Romo bias as you see fit?
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because he is no Aikman and keeps the Cowboys as an average team.
I don't know about that.
He's far better than Russell Wilson. I'm grateful he's not in the NFC West.
Far better than Russell Wilson? What are you smoking, I'd love to try some... They may be comparable as passers, but Russell Wilson is so much better with his legs, as a team leader and decision maker, and so much more of a winner, that it's not even worth arguing about. He's also ten times tougher than Romo, and several years younger. Wilson is the only QB in the NFL who is a threat as a runner and NEVER gets hurt. That's both because of his toughness and because he sees the whole field so much better than Romo ever could. In almost every category, there is simply no comparison between the two players, IMO.
Romo is a better pure passer than Wilson as are at least 8 other QBs. Wilson has some success on defined throws and he throws a pretty decent lob/jump ball.
Wilson does not see the field that well purely in the pocket and going through a lot of progressions in that area.
He sees the field extremely well after he plants his feet 10 seconds after a broken play begins.
The 3rd and 22nd tight sideline throw Romo made in Seattle is something I've never seen Wilson do. His guys on broken/extended plays are always wide open....like that play in Minnesota wild card game.
When Wilson fails to deliver in the playoffs again after his dominant defense does their best to keep the game respectable, people will keep praising him and knocking Romo.
Predictably.
Here is an example, Bradshaw won 4 SBs and two SB MVPs, but is not even considered a top 10 QB all time.
Marino won zero SBs and would be given greater consideration as a top 10 QB all time than Bradshaw.
Championships should be the last measure when comparing QBs.
In Wilson's first two years in the league Seattle had the #1 rated defense and rushing game in the NFL. This was the major impetus for Seattle going to the SB each year. Wilson was not asked to carry the team.
Imagine Wilson playing for New Orleans and being asked to carry the team as Brees is asked to or in Dallas as Romo does. I don't think he would perform as well.
I will give credit to Wilson last year in the 2nd half when the team needed him to step up in the passing game, he did the job.
Let's see how he does this(his 4th season) to see if he has progressed to the next level, elite QB.
Perhaps you didn't read your original post because the subtext of the opening lines suggest an enthusiasm for Romo getting hurt.
"I'm hopeful that we get a least one, good, clean shot on Romo to see where that back and collarbone are. And I do mean a clean shot. I know I paraphrased ol' Al Davis in the thread title, but I still believe in getting after the QB and getting after him good, but within the rules."
Learn to read, Paul. The words 'clean shot' and 'within the rules' must be foreign to you. Nowhere in that did I root for injury. But if he dies, he dies.
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That was me being facetious, Mike. Ive been deleted before. But thanks.
No problems brother. Just wasn't sure you were aware. That's all. Enjoy the weekend.
You, too. Enjoy.
Not a ton of room for interpretation.
"What is the under over for Romo this year for games played?" Taking liberties with what I actually wrote, I see.
Wanting Romo to hit the ground hard so he's a 'lil gunshy and WANTING him to get hurt are mutually exclusive from one another. Why is this so hard to understand?
I think they met in Miami or something...
Homophobe. That much is clear. Latent, much?
10 sacks in 2 playoff games, Glover. Kind of like the Gmen's inability to run the football. We are better in Pass protection than running the ball. Rare that you have a line that does both exceedingly well.
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He did also say if you get Romo down right away he gives it up much more frequently...
I think they met in Miami or something...
Homophobe. That much is clear. Latent, much?
Dammit. You caught me... I've been trying to hide my latent homosexuality for years. But some double entendre to some douchewad retard on a Giants forum exposed my psychological complex...
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He did also say if you get Romo down right away he gives it up much more frequently...
I think they met in Miami or something...
Homophobe. That much is clear. Latent, much?
Dammit. You caught me... I've been trying to hide my latent homosexuality for years. But some double entendre to some douchewad retard on a Giants forum exposed my psychological complex...
Come out. Come out. Wherever you are. You're getting there, Adam.
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He did also say if you get Romo down right away he gives it up much more frequently...
I think they met in Miami or something...
Homophobe. That much is clear. Latent, much?
Dammit. You caught me... I've been trying to hide my latent homosexuality for years. But some double entendre to some douchewad retard on a Giants forum exposed my psychological complex...
Come out. Come out. Wherever you are. You're getting there, Adam.
Wow, it really is liberating. You know what? You should come out of that closet too. The one for the people who are macho bitches online. Come on, boy.
You just need to look at the Dallas winning percentage and offensive stats with Romo and without. The same ten other players, but totally different results.
Last year when Romo went down the opposing divisional fans were doing cartwheels. This thread and some of the responses are proof enough. Everyone knows that the other 52 don't matter if Romo is out. Romo is the key to Dallas's success, it's a fact.
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He did also say if you get Romo down right away he gives it up much more frequently...
I think they met in Miami or something...
Homophobe. That much is clear. Latent, much?
Dammit. You caught me... I've been trying to hide my latent homosexuality for years. But some double entendre to some douchewad retard on a Giants forum exposed my psychological complex...
Come out. Come out. Wherever you are. You're getting there, Adam.
Wow, it really is liberating. You know what? You should come out of that closet too. The one for the people who are macho bitches online. Come on, boy.
Ummmm, you contradict yourself, smart guy. If I am playing tough guy, how am I in your 'tough guy' closet?
I have a friend named Dave who would like you. I told him about you already. He thinks you're a powerbottom. Haha.
Powerbottom. Priceless.
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that you are walking back your comments on Romo, but stop blaming others as if they didn't read your post or lack reading comprehension. If the way most people are interpreting your post is different from what you meant to say, then it is on you, the writer, for being unclear.
Perhaps you didn't read your original post because the subtext of the opening lines suggest an enthusiasm for Romo getting hurt.
"I'm hopeful that we get a least one, good, clean shot on Romo to see where that back and collarbone are. And I do mean a clean shot. I know I paraphrased ol' Al Davis in the thread title, but I still believe in getting after the QB and getting after him good, but within the rules."
Learn to read, Paul. The words 'clean shot' and 'within the rules' must be foreign to you. Nowhere in that did I root for injury. But if he dies, he dies.
BlueGuy, are you really that stubborn? Your first few sentences suggest rather obviously your enthusiasm and hope for Romo to get injured. If you don't like that people are interpreting those lines that way, then you should have done a better job explaining your thoughts; blaming others only reflects your lacking maturity, intellect, and character.
Learn to read? I read just fine, though I suggest you learn to reason. "Clean shot" and "within the rules" are not foreign to me, but they are irrelevant to this conversation. Nowhere did anyone claim that you suggested the Giants should play dirty or break the rules to hurt Romo.
Just know that when people show instances of other teams' fans acting classless that those fans can point to this thread you started and make the same claim. Keep digging in those heels, though.
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Really? He has arguably the best Oline in the league, the best running game in the league, a stud WR and a hall of fame TE. The defense has hardly been lacking for talented players in his time there. Romo isn't carrying his team. What a joke.
You just need to look at the Dallas winning percentage and offensive stats with Romo and without. The same ten other players, but totally different results.
Last year when Romo went down the opposing divisional fans were doing cartwheels. This thread and some of the responses are proof enough. Everyone knows that the other 52 don't matter if Romo is out. Romo is the key to Dallas's success, it's a fact.
How satisfied were you with Romo's play last season? The guy threw 7 picks to his 5 TDs and QBR under 80. That's what you call carrying his team? If that's what we have to look forward to, bring it on.
The truth is, Dallas is and always has been a bunch of front runners. It wasn't just Romo, the combination of Romo injury and Dez getting hurt and the team quit. No heart. Your coach is so overrated. He should have been able to get more out of them, but didn't. Personally, I've little doubt after the injuries Jerry was more than happy to write the season off to the injuries and get out of there with the #4 overall pick.
You'll spin the Return of the King narrative and will be a better team, no denying. But the truth is, Romo was not particularly good last season even when he played and crappy backups and gutless performance in the face of adversity doesn't translate into the guy carrying the team.
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Really? He has arguably the best Oline in the league, the best running game in the league, a stud WR and a hall of fame TE. The defense has hardly been lacking for talented players in his time there. Romo isn't carrying his team. What a joke.
You just need to look at the Dallas winning percentage and offensive stats with Romo and without. The same ten other players, but totally different results.
Last year when Romo went down the opposing divisional fans were doing cartwheels. This thread and some of the responses are proof enough. Everyone knows that the other 52 don't matter if Romo is out. Romo is the key to Dallas's success, it's a fact.
Romo is a good QB and the play of Dallas backups was horseshit. But that hardly means Romo carries his team. I should point out they actually did okay when Brandon Weeden was in there and several of his stats were better than Romo's (better comp%, better TD to INT ration, better QBR).
How satisfied were you with Romo's play last season? The guy threw 7 picks to his 5 TDs and QBR under 80. That's what you call carrying his team? If that's what we have to look forward to, bring it on.
The truth is, Dallas is and always has been a bunch of front runners. It wasn't just Romo, the combination of Romo injury and Dez getting hurt and the team quit. No heart. Your coach is so overrated. He should have been able to get more out of them, but didn't. Personally, I've little doubt after the injuries Jerry was more than happy to write the season off to the injuries and get out of there with the #4 overall pick.
You'll spin the Return of the King narrative and will be a better team, no denying. But the truth is, Romo was not particularly good last season even when he played and crappy backups and gutless performance in the face of adversity doesn't translate into the guy carrying the team.
Wow, your basing your "Romo doesn't carry the team" argument on four games last year. Talk about cherry picking. Not being able to see that Romo is the key for Dallas to succeed doesn't say much for your football IQ.
Before I go, just want to address another clueless comment, the team quit. If you had done your homework and gone through the schedule you would have seen that the only game Dallas could be guilty of quitting in was the very last game versus Washington. The Dallas defense gave up 21 quick points in the 1st QT and the game was over.
Dallas may have lost many games, but the team played hard and fought to the end in all but one. Dallas just couldn't make any plays when the games were on the line and lost them. It was the inability of making plays that doomed Dallas, not their effort.
Yeah, they sucked last year when Romo was not in there. Backup QB play was horrible. But having crappy backups is a weak ass argument for claiming the guy "carries" his team. They will probably send 6 - 8 players to the probowl and you will be back here saying it was all Romo. But I'm quite sure if there was a thread about who has the best OLine in the league or how Dez ranks among the elite WRs, or Witten's position among all time TEs, you won't be making the argument about it being all Romo then, so go on your way.
2) They are a better team with him than without him
3) They will be better this year with Romo back
Here is a myth that does not any any stretch extend from the above:
Romo carries his team.
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He did also say if you get Romo down right away he gives it up much more frequently...
I think they met in Miami or something...
Homophobe. That much is clear. Latent, much?
Dammit. You caught me... I've been trying to hide my latent homosexuality for years. But some double entendre to some douchewad retard on a Giants forum exposed my psychological complex...
Come out. Come out. Wherever you are. You're getting there, Adam.
Wow, it really is liberating. You know what? You should come out of that closet too. The one for the people who are macho bitches online. Come on, boy.
Ummmm, you contradict yourself, smart guy. If I am playing tough guy, how am I in your 'tough guy' closet?
I have a friend named Dave who would like you. I told him about you already. He thinks you're a powerbottom. Haha.
Powerbottom. Priceless.
You are quite stubbornly ignorant. People who are in the closest are gay, right? It's about owning your identity. In your case, it's a retarded gorilla.
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that you are walking back your comments on Romo, but stop blaming others as if they didn't read your post or lack reading comprehension. If the way most people are interpreting your post is different from what you meant to say, then it is on you, the writer, for being unclear.
Perhaps you didn't read your original post because the subtext of the opening lines suggest an enthusiasm for Romo getting hurt.
"I'm hopeful that we get a least one, good, clean shot on Romo to see where that back and collarbone are. And I do mean a clean shot. I know I paraphrased ol' Al Davis in the thread title, but I still believe in getting after the QB and getting after him good, but within the rules."
Learn to read, Paul. The words 'clean shot' and 'within the rules' must be foreign to you. Nowhere in that did I root for injury. But if he dies, he dies.
BlueGuy, are you really that stubborn? Your first few sentences suggest rather obviously your enthusiasm and hope for Romo to get injured. If you don't like that people are interpreting those lines that way, then you should have done a better job explaining your thoughts; blaming others only reflects your lacking maturity, intellect, and character.
Learn to read? I read just fine, though I suggest you learn to reason. "Clean shot" and "within the rules" are not foreign to me, but they are irrelevant to this conversation. Nowhere did anyone claim that you suggested the Giants should play dirty or break the rules to hurt Romo.
Just know that when people show instances of other teams' fans acting classless that those fans can point to this thread you started and make the same claim. Keep digging in those heels, though.
Feel free to continually misinterpret my words. Here's a refresher. "I've gotta tell you, I think he's gonna take a shot in the opener that will dictate the rest of his season and not in a good way. Vernon abused T. Smith last year which is a major part of why he was signed (to me, anyway)."
That could also mean mentally once he gets planted with a good hard shot. Which is what I meant. As a corollary, I can also wonder about his long term health in this very, violent sport.
You're not getting it. Cool. Never speak to my character. You don't know what I do for people or causes that I care about. Intellect? Another subject you're not qualified to discuss with me.
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He did also say if you get Romo down right away he gives it up much more frequently...
I think they met in Miami or something...
Homophobe. That much is clear. Latent, much?
Dammit. You caught me... I've been trying to hide my latent homosexuality for years. But some double entendre to some douchewad retard on a Giants forum exposed my psychological complex...
Come out. Come out. Wherever you are. You're getting there, Adam.
Wow, it really is liberating. You know what? You should come out of that closet too. The one for the people who are macho bitches online. Come on, boy.
Ummmm, you contradict yourself, smart guy. If I am playing tough guy, how am I in your 'tough guy' closet?
I have a friend named Dave who would like you. I told him about you already. He thinks you're a powerbottom. Haha.
Powerbottom. Priceless.
You are quite stubbornly ignorant. People who are in the closest are gay, right? It's about owning your identity. In your case, it's a retarded gorilla.
Well, I guess we know what the g stands for, PB. Haha.
Some people, other than you and me, have class around here. So quit whining like a bitch that people didn't take kindly to your classless ill-wishing and supercilious nonsensical ramblings in defense of yourself: you're not a classy person.
Some people, other than you and me, have class around here. So quit whining like a bitch that people didn't take kindly to your classless ill-wishing and supercilious nonsensical ramblings in defense of yourself: you're not a classy person.
Telling someone off? Supercilious? You're like 20? Right? Did you get the last word in yet, Pooh Bear? You can have the last post once you respond to this. You win. Time to snuggle with Tigger for a nice night's sleepie poo. FOH.
"Internet Mr Macho calls Adamg 'Pooh bear.'"
My daughters could sling better insults than that by the time they were 8!
ROTFLMAO, gotta say it twice.
"Internet Mr Macho calls Adamg 'Pooh bear.'"
My daughters could sling better insults than that by the time they were 8!
ROTFLMAO, gotta say it twice.
Aaaah, c'mon, Lou.
Look, stupid fuck...
I want everybody outta here right now.
Hey. You should join our club.
Did you hear what I just said?
You and your friend.
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Uhh!
You hear me now?!
No, I didn't quite catch that, Lou.
Ooh!
Pfft!
Ohhh...
Still not gettin' it.
Aah! OK, OK, OK. I got it.
I got it. I got it. Shit, I lost it.
Ooh!
Back! All of you!
[Gun Cocks]
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Aw, Lou...
Come on, man.
We really like this place.
Ohh!
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Ohhh...
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Think that's fuckin' funny?!
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Fuckin' guys are loony, I'm tellin' ya.
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Fuckin' use the basement! Christ!
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On my mother's honor.
Uhh!
Lou!
Aaahhh!
Thanks, Lou.
You, too, big guy.
See you next week.
Intellect often reveals itself by a person's views and how the person is able to explain those views. You have done so rather poorly. Doubling down on your stubbornness by making irrelevant challenges to defend your intellect is meaningless and laughable. There are plenty of posters on BBI who have earned the respect of the community and who have shown to be intelligent and insightful posters. If you're goal is to be one of those people, then you are off to a horrible start.
Intellect often reveals itself by a person's views and how the person is able to explain those views. You have done so rather poorly. Doubling down on your stubbornness by making irrelevant challenges to defend your intellect is meaningless and laughable. There are plenty of posters on BBI who have earned the respect of the community and who have shown to be intelligent and insightful posters. If you're goal is to be one of those people, then you are off to a horrible start.
Happy 4th of July Paul. That's a noble effort to reach an outstretched arm.
Blue guy, you don't deserve Paul, but you'd be wise to listen to him.
Intellect often reveals itself by a person's views and how the person is able to explain those views. You have done so rather poorly. Doubling down on your stubbornness by making irrelevant challenges to defend your intellect is meaningless and laughable. There are plenty of posters on BBI who have earned the respect of the community and who have shown to be intelligent and insightful posters. If you're goal is to be one of those people, then you are off to a horrible start.
Riiiiight. Some anonymous twats who couldn't hold my jock during an actual football discussion are going to tell me about my character and personality after misinterpreting my thread and lying to themselves about how they feel in relation to the COWBOY'S starting QB.
Holy hell, Paulie. Get off your sanctimonious, bullshit high horse. Please. This site is a hoot. That's all it is. This isn't church or even the fucking library. stop trying to know it all. It's sad. Really.
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No one has to question your character. Your words and reactions on this thread illustrate it quite easily. But thanks for the blanket statement about various causes you care about.
Intellect often reveals itself by a person's views and how the person is able to explain those views. You have done so rather poorly. Doubling down on your stubbornness by making irrelevant challenges to defend your intellect is meaningless and laughable. There are plenty of posters on BBI who have earned the respect of the community and who have shown to be intelligent and insightful posters. If you're goal is to be one of those people, then you are off to a horrible start.
Riiiiight. Some anonymous twats who couldn't hold my jock during an actual football discussion are going to tell me about my character and personality after misinterpreting my thread and lying to themselves about how they feel in relation to the COWBOY'S starting QB.
Holy hell, Paulie. Get off your sanctimonious, bullshit high horse. Please. This site is a hoot. That's all it is. This isn't church or even the fucking library. stop trying to know it all. It's sad. Really.
No one is being sanctimonious except you. They're saying stop digging yourself a hole if you want to be respected in the way you seem to think you're entitled to be. It has nothing to do with the actual ethics of "if Tony Romo is injured" and more to do with what you want and how you're acting in achieving that.
Does this count now as the last word and you won't respond to each person, point by point, with more nonsense to their honest advice? I'm tired of this thread reappearing, as if it were an actual football thread which the board seems bereft of for some reason the past few days.
I'm not sure you know what this word means. Here. I'll help you out. Google is your friend.
When did I say I was 'morally' superior to anyone? Show me the exact quote. Now football? That I damn sure know more about.
Now go home and get........well, you know the rest.
Wait..
I'm not sure you know what this word means. Here. I'll help you out. Google is your friend.
When did I say I was 'morally' superior to anyone? Show me the exact quote. Now football? That I damn sure know more about.
Now go home and get........well, you know the rest.
"Sanctimonious[...]
2. [...] Of assumed piety"
Oxford English Dictionary
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