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NFT: 7/1 NBA Free Agency is finally here! Tons of rumors inside!

Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:00 am
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Derrick Rose, Carmelo Anthony & Joakim Noah are in full recruiting mode to try & get Durant to the Knicks. Even though they know it's a longshot per Woj.

Joakim Noah and the Knicks are close on a 3 year deal worth 52.5 million. The third year is only partially guaranteed.

Kevin Durant has a 90% chance of going back to the Thunder. He will make his decision by July 4th.

The Wizards are close to a 5 year 133 million dollar deal with Bradley Beal. Once that gets done they will try to sign Nic Batum.

Hassan Whiteside is leaning towards the Mavericks over the Heat. We should know where he is going shortly after midnight.

Chandler Parsons is trying to get a max contract from the Lakers, Blazers, Magic or Grizzlies.

Mike Conley will most likely choose between the Grizzlies & Mavericks with the Grizzlies as the front runners.

Harrison Barnes will get close to a max offer from the Sixers. Possibly in a sign & trade.

Al Horford will have a meeting with the Celtics & Rockets according to Woj. Most likely leaving Atlanta.

Pau Gasol is drawing a lot of interest from the Warriors. Who are probably the favorites if they miss out on Durant.

Dwyane Wade & Miami aren't close on money. It's a real possibility that he leaves Miami this year.

Dwight Howard is looking for at least 24 million a year. The Hawks, Celtics & Heat are interested if they lose Whiteside.

Kent Bazemore is projected to get somewhere between 18-20 million a year.

Dion Waiters was given a qualifying offer from the Thunder. The Kings are supposed to go hard after him. Possibly offering him 18 million a year.

Ryan Anderson is getting heavy interest from the Lakers. Could be their first free agent signing
Should be a fun day!  
Anakim : 7/1/2016 12:02 am : link
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So many bad contracts  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 12:03 am : link
Everywhere

Jesus Bradley, parsons. Fucking waiters?!?
Harrison Barnes  
Keith : 7/1/2016 12:04 am : link
might be the worst.
Kent Bazemore  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:04 am : link
Will have his first meeting with the Rockets. James Harden is in attendance.

Knicks are expected to talk with Austin Rivers today. The Blazers are also a possibility.
Rockets meeting with baze  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 12:05 am : link
Knicks expected to meet with Austin rivers lol
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Anakim : 7/1/2016 12:07 am : link
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA
The Lakers are making a serious run at Cleveland free agent center Timofey Mozgov, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Knicks & Noah  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:09 am : link
Working on the framework of a 4 year 70+ million dollar deal.
I thought it was  
GMEN46 : 7/1/2016 12:10 am : link
3 years 52.5 with partially guaranteed 3rd year I don't like 4 years $70mm
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Anakim : 7/1/2016 12:11 am : link
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account
‏@WojVerticalNBA
Spurs meeting with Kevin Durant in the Hamptons will include Gregg Popovich, RC Buford and LaMarcus Aldridge, sources tell @TheVertical.
RE: I thought it was  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/1/2016 12:13 am : link
In comment 13016686 GMEN46 said:
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3 years 52.5 with partially guaranteed 3rd year I don't like 4 years $70mm


I don't like either one of them. The guy has practically done nothing for 2 years. There's evidence he might've been irreparably run into the ground by Thibs. Treating him like he's an answer as opposed to a question is lunacy.
Lakers & Mozgov  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:17 am : link
Will probably be the first deal done tonight.

TWolves have a call lined up with Luol Deng tonight.
Clippers  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:21 am : link
Visiting with Jeff Green tonight.
Wiz/Bradley Beal nearing the max  
Anakim : 7/1/2016 12:21 am : link
The Vertical ‏@TheVertical

.@WojVerticalNBA: Bradley Beal, Wizards nearing five-year, $128 million maximum deal
Woj says  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:23 am : link
The Wizards will sign Bradley Beal to a 5 year deal worth 128 million.
RE: Wiz/Bradley Beal nearing the max  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 12:24 am : link
In comment 13016703 Anakim said:
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The Vertical ‏@TheVertical

.@WojVerticalNBA: Bradley Beal, Wizards nearing five-year, $128 million maximum deal


I guess it's no shock he was gonna get the max whether the Wizards gave it to him or another team gave the offer sheet for it. It just looks a lot worse seeing the actual numbers.

Bradley beal is going to earn $128 million.

I guess all you can really say is good for him
4 year deal for the Moz?  
Anakim : 7/1/2016 12:29 am : link
The Vertical ‏@TheVertical
.@WojVerticalNBA: Lakers, Timofey Mozgov in serious negotiations on four-year deal.
Holy  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 12:39 am : link
Moz....

$65M
Parsons meeting with the Blazers  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:40 am : link
4 year deal worth the max is on the table.
With Mozgov getting 16 a year  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:41 am : link
I guess we really can't complain about Noah getting 16-18 million.
WTF on that Mozgov contract  
Mason : 7/1/2016 12:42 am : link
oh shit.
Who's the Knicks plan at the 2?  
Tuckrule : 7/1/2016 12:43 am : link
Anybody hearing anything....not thrilled about 4 year deal for Noah was hoping for a 3 year but if that's what I takes get it done!!
Wow, $65M!  
yatqb : 7/1/2016 12:43 am : link
I guess we're getting a bargain with Noah then? ;-)
Parson getting a max contract from Portland  
Mason : 7/1/2016 12:45 am : link
OMG
Lockout coming another 3 years  
Mason : 7/1/2016 12:46 am : link
As I said how can you ever side with management. These are the guys giving out these contracts.
RE: Wow, $65M!  
Mason : 7/1/2016 12:49 am : link
In comment 13016722 yatqb said:
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I guess we're getting a bargain with Noah then? ;-)


That Noah deal looks awesome right about now. Better yet that Lopez deal looks like a damn bargain for the Bulls.

Dwight already setting his price at $24 million per year.
Tuckrule  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:53 am : link
Courtney Lee is the name I keep seeing as the SG. Quite a few people who know much more about basketball then I do think Lee is a great fit next to Rose & Melo.
RE: RE: Wow, $65M!  
Sgrcts : 7/1/2016 12:53 am : link
In comment 13016725 Mason said:
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In comment 13016722 yatqb said:


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I guess we're getting a bargain with Noah then? ;-)



That Noah deal looks awesome right about now. Better yet that Lopez deal looks like a damn bargain for the Bulls.

Dwight already setting his price at $24 million per year.


Just because there was another shitty deal doesn't make our shitty deal any less shitty. Never mind the fact that Mozgov has been a more productive player over the last few years...........
Chris Broussard  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:54 am : link
Knicks & Noah close to an agreement for 4 years 72 million. I'll gladly take Noah at 1.5 million more then Mozgov.
where are all these rumors from  
chris r : 7/1/2016 12:54 am : link
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Whiteside to the Mavs  
Mason : 7/1/2016 12:56 am : link
..
Chris r  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:56 am : link
All of them are from either Woj, Marc Stein, David Aldridge & Chris Broussard.
Mason  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 12:57 am : link
Where did you see that about Whiteside? I know a fake Twitter account posted something about it. Haven't seen it from a legit account though.
RE: Mason  
Mason : 7/1/2016 12:59 am : link
In comment 13016737 Big Rick in FL said:
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Where did you see that about Whiteside? I know a fake Twitter account posted something about it. Haven't seen it from a legit account though.


Foxsports but it was just pulled. They could have gotten it from that fake account.
Damn!!  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 1:00 am : link
Was hoping it was true. My Brother is a Heat fan. I hope they miss out on KD & lose Wade/Whiteside.
RE: Damn!!  
Mason : 7/1/2016 1:03 am : link
In comment 13016741 Big Rick in FL said:
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Was hoping it was true. My Brother is a Heat fan. I hope they miss out on KD & lose Wade/Whiteside.


B/R is unreliable. They got fooled twice tonight.
Blazers  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 1:03 am : link
Offerin parsons the max according to hoops hype
It's done. Mozgov to the Lakers  
Anakim : 7/1/2016 1:13 am : link
The Vertical ‏@TheVertical
.@WojVerticalNBA: Lakers, Timofey Mozgov have agreed to four-year, $64 million deal.
RE: It's done. Mozgov to the Lakers  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 1:19 am : link
In comment 13016750 Anakim said:
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The Vertical ‏@TheVertical
.@WojVerticalNBA: Lakers, Timofey Mozgov have agreed to four-year, $64 million deal.


Phew. Because if it was $65M that would've just been pain old crazy.
ROLO Deal  
brunswick : 7/1/2016 1:21 am : link
Is a bargain based on these numbers
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Anakim : 7/1/2016 1:23 am : link
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Brooklyn, Utah and Phoenix (again), sources say, are among the teams after vet swingman Jared Dudley, with Washington also still in the mix
Funny but probably accurate  
Mason : 7/1/2016 1:23 am : link
Bill BarnwellVerified account
‏@billbarnwell Bill Barnwell Retweeted The Vertical

Lakers: Well give you $65 million over four years.
Mozgovs agent: Wait, seriously?Bill Barnwell added,
The Vertical @TheVertical
Kings apparently have big offer for waiters  
nygiants16 : 7/1/2016 1:26 am : link
Will they ever learn?
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Anakim : 7/1/2016 1:47 am : link
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Rajon Rondo remains a possibility for the Brooklyn Nets. Hearing there's some mutual interest there. Nothing imminent though.
DeMar DeRozan  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 2:16 am : link
Has agreed to a 5 year deal worth 139 million with the Raptors.
Sorry that I'm blowing up  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 2:36 am : link
Both free agency threads. Up late trying to finish my driving school.
Adrian Wojnarowski  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 2:36 am : link
Says Eric Gordon has emerged as the Knicks top perimeter target & they are discussing the framework on a deal.
Jordan Clarkson  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 4:17 am : link
Resigned with the Lakers 4 years 50 million.

DJ Augustin signed with the Magic.

Batum resigned with the Hornets 5 years 120 million.
Guys  
Giantology : 7/1/2016 6:42 am : link
Post your sources, please.
Basically everything I post  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 6:46 am : link
is from Wojnarowski or from people who work Woj for TheVertical. It's either posted by him or retweeted by him. He's rarely ever wrong.
Andre Drummond is getting a 130 million dollar deal  
Anakim : 7/1/2016 6:46 am : link
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NBA FA  
stretch234 : 7/1/2016 7:52 am : link
I had heard that only 5 teams last year spent the money that will be needed to hit the floor this year. Teams have to spend money and the 2nd & 3rd tier players are the ones who will capitalize the most. Timing is everything
RE: RE: It's done. Mozgov to the Lakers  
AcidTest : 7/1/2016 8:47 am : link
In comment 13016759 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13016750 Anakim said:


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The Vertical ‏@TheVertical
.@WojVerticalNBA: Lakers, Timofey Mozgov have agreed to four-year, $64 million deal.



Phew. Because if it was $65M that would've just been pain old crazy.


Wow. Crazy coin. Good for him.
it's a brave new world out there  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/1/2016 8:49 am : link
NBA revenues are astronomical and there are only so many players on a roster.

I wonder if GS and Phi do a sign and trade  
dep026 : 7/1/2016 8:50 am : link
for Barnes.... who would they have to trade back?

Noel?
Covington?

I think Covington could be a nice little player for them. Defends and shoots the 3.
Hoopshype rumors:  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 8:51 am : link
Ish smith to Detroit, 3 years $16M.

First bargain of FA
RE: I wonder if GS and Phi do a sign and trade  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 8:52 am : link
In comment 13016928 dep026 said:
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for Barnes.... who would they have to trade back?

Noel?
Covington?

I think Covington could be a nice little player for them. Defends and shoots the 3.


Doubt they trade Noel. He's their 2nd best asset after Simmons. Don't think Barnes will ever be close to the player Noel will be.
I think Noel  
dep026 : 7/1/2016 8:53 am : link
is terrible. Okafor is a much better player.
RE: I think Noel  
giantsfan44ab : 7/1/2016 8:58 am : link
In comment 13016935 dep026 said:
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is terrible. Okafor is a much better player.


Huh, really? I guess Okafor has more potential but Noel is easier to build around. He can protect the rim and switch onto perimeter players, 2 things almost required of modern NBA bigs. It's easier to build around Noel.

Okafor you need to pair with a rim protector and floor spacer. Simmons is neither of those things.
Hassan Whiteseide announced his return to the Heat  
dpinzow : 7/1/2016 9:19 am : link
by writing in the Players Tribune (Jeter's online magazine)
RE: It's done. Mozgov to the Lakers  
dpinzow : 7/1/2016 9:32 am : link
In comment 13016750 Anakim said:
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The Vertical ‏@TheVertical
.@WojVerticalNBA: Lakers, Timofey Mozgov have agreed to four-year, $64 million deal.


LOL
RE: I wonder if GS and Phi do a sign and trade  
Deej : 7/1/2016 9:39 am : link
In comment 13016928 dep026 said:
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for Barnes.... who would they have to trade back?

Noel?
Covington?

I think Covington could be a nice little player for them. Defends and shoots the 3.


I suspect it is closer to a #2 pick. Philly holds the cards. They can sign him and unless GS can convince them that they'd match, he's theirs. So all GS would be doing in denying a S&T is cosint Philly a few days and denying Barnes his 5th year and higher raises.

No way they're getting Noel back. Noel is a good player. Not a star but a good defensive and rebounding 5. Very, very useful. He's just not a 4 and that's where he'd have to play in Philly.
I'd expect that the Sixers just regained some of their leverage..  
BurberryManning : 7/1/2016 9:54 am : link
with regards to Noel & Okafor seeing as how players like Mozgov are commanding upwards of $65mm.

Most Sixers fans are willing to sit out the big ticket free agents this summer but resigned to the fact that Colangelo will probably go all-in for Barnes, which is the lesser of other evils, being that he's at least a solid player that fits as opposed to some other free agents that were available.
BM  
Deej : 7/1/2016 9:59 am : link
Noel yes, Okafor no. Noel is a piece. Okafor is an organizational commitment. If you get him, that's your team. You're building an offense around him hopefully being a 25+ point inside scorer who can kick out. And you need to build a defense around his deficiencies. It's hard to have a bad defensive center. Even harder if that guy has really slow reaction time defensively (as Okafor does).
Sounds like Linsanity is coming to Brooklyn  
Anakim : 7/1/2016 10:01 am : link
Lin is nearing an agreement with the Nets
From Woj  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/1/2016 10:02 am : link
@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Jeremy Lin is nearing a multi-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
9:59 AM - 1 Jul 2016
Stein says Lin got 3-36  
Heisenberg : 7/1/2016 10:06 am : link
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Yikes!  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/1/2016 10:06 am : link
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In this market  
Old Dirty Beckham : 7/1/2016 10:32 am : link
3/36 is a good deal for the Nets. Lin probably could have gotten more but he'll be marketable in this area and for the Nets they'll get the added benefit of selling tickets.

I'd like to see them sign Brandon Jennings too. It's a ball handlers offense and the two of them would be able to play together.

Not a bad start for a Net team that has a long way to go.
RE: BM  
BurberryManning : 7/1/2016 11:16 am : link
In comment 13017090 Deej said:
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Noel yes, Okafor no. Noel is a piece. Okafor is an organizational commitment. If you get him, that's your team. You're building an offense around him hopefully being a 25+ point inside scorer who can kick out. And you need to build a defense around his deficiencies. It's hard to have a bad defensive center. Even harder if that guy has really slow reaction time defensively (as Okafor does).


Great points per usual, Deej.

The consensus in Philly seems to be that Noel is clearly the better and more versatile fit within the context of the modern NBA. That being said, Okafor offers more "star" potential to build around, in a vacuum. I think Noel is by far the better piece to retain if Embiid is healthy whereas I view Okafor as sort of a hedge on Embiid getting hurt and needing some sort of cornerstone offensive player beyond Simmons....or (wishful thinking) he loses weight and becomes an average rim protecter that doesn't require every other piece to be built around him.

I'm still pissed that Ainge turned out to be so stubborn. A lot of chatter out of both Chicago and Philly that Ainge was leaking false trade offers (Noel, Covington, 24th, 26th..Butler deals, etc) to the media to pressure other front-offices. I can't imagine that Okafor wouldn't be more valuable to that team than Jaylen Brown. Ainge has developed this reputation that unless he clearly fleeces the opposing GM he's unwilling to deal (ironically, Hinkie was building that rep too) which turns a lot of other executives off.
Noel  
Steve in South Jersey : 7/1/2016 11:20 am : link
I have heard rumors that Noel wants out because he wants to be a starter and not a backup behind Embiid or Okafor.

RE: Sounds like Linsanity is coming to Brooklyn  
Mason : 7/1/2016 11:20 am : link
In comment 13017096 Anakim said:
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Lin is nearing an agreement with the Nets


That move was one of the easiest to predict this FA period. Good move for both sides.
It would make some sense, Steve..  
BurberryManning : 7/1/2016 11:26 am : link
A little bit more winning might help cure that but I could understand Noel having a little alpha ambition in him.
RE: RE: BM  
Deej : 7/1/2016 11:27 am : link
In comment 13017317 BurberryManning said:
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I can't imagine that Okafor wouldn't be more valuable to that team than Jaylen Brown.


So Okafor is a better player than Brown and nothing is likely to change that. But it gets back to the organizational commitment issue. Does Boston want to become the Okafor show? Might not be a bad move for them. But Brown for Okafor isnt just a talent/need decision. Getting Okafor commits you to a certain brand of basketball and effects what you do at the other spots defensively.

I mean, you can get Okafor and not commit to him being your offense, but to me that's dumb. He's a guy who is built to efficiently dominate against today's skinny, stretchy centers. You commit to running the offense around him, or you dont bother having him IMO.
And if Im Philly  
Deej : 7/1/2016 11:31 am : link
I dont take less than 100 cents on the dollar for J.O. See what Embiid is. See how Okafor and Simmons work together. Okafor's value isnt going to change between now and 7/1/17 in all likelihood, and it could just improve.

Noel I trade for a guard if the deal is right. He's a good player and I can easily see him playing 25 minutes a night on a contender in his prime. But my guy says you'll never "regret" trading him because he blossoms into something way better. He's never getting Bosh's jumper.
RE: And if Im Philly  
dep026 : 7/1/2016 11:43 am : link
In comment 13017340 Deej said:
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I dont take less than 100 cents on the dollar for J.O. See what Embiid is. See how Okafor and Simmons work together. Okafor's value isnt going to change between now and 7/1/17 in all likelihood, and it could just improve.

Noel I trade for a guard if the deal is right. He's a good player and I can easily see him playing 25 minutes a night on a contender in his prime. But my guy says you'll never "regret" trading him because he blossoms into something way better. He's never getting Bosh's jumper.


Rubio for Noel should have been done weeks ago.
Okafor was a rookie  
Steve in South Jersey : 7/1/2016 11:49 am : link
he should improve in year 2. Reasonable to hope for passable defense, some improvement in defensive rebounding, better passing which he was great at in college. His body should be better conditioned. His offense can also improve too. I would wait until the trade deadline to deal him. Embiid's minutes will be limited this year so there are minutes for a second center.
and if you could combine  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/1/2016 11:52 am : link
they two of them, you'd get Tim Duncan.
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