I'll tell you what it was: REALITY. You guys crack me up. You are still living the fantasy of sucking and then somehow attracting a player of the caliber of Westbrook to even look at us. Have you learned nothing from the past 6 years? We are now at the point where the superstars aren't even to the point of laughing at us. THEY DON"T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EXISTENCE. We have to return to the NBA map to even have a chance. Phil rightfully realizes that we have to become relevant to attract the elite free agents. For those of you lamenting that we won't contend for a title for the next 10 years, what exactly is the path to doing that? tank for 3 years straight hoping that #1 we are lucky enough to get the #1 pick(and not drop from 2-4 like last year and #2 have the player available at #1 be a franchise changer when it has a much better opportunity of being Emeka Okafor or Anthony Bennett. Listen I'm not drop dead in lover with Rose or Noah, but if they can help us win 45 games and be a playoff team again I'm all for it. Then you can free up enough $ for a max guy next year and go from there. At least if we are a playoff team the stars will give us the time of day. This plan may not work but it sure as hell beats winning 30 games a year and hoping...because thats a long long road to tile contention.
RE: As discussed earlier, something caused Phil to drastically change
Hornacek mainly changed Phil's tune. Hornacek said get him some good players he wants to a competitive team. Hornacek also doesn't view Melo's career arc like most of BBI. He feels Melo has several good years left to chase championships. Which I agree with. Melo is only 32 yrs old not 42. Hornacek and the core of those Jazz teams were chasing championships well into their 30s (36/37 yrs old).
And Phil as stated very recently, "Whats so great about the East?"
Is because you figure 4 years of these bad contracts end, hopefully not dumb enough to resign melo after his expires. Then you are starting all over with just porzingis and whoever we get in the drafts of we actually keep the picks. It's just such a poorly run organization I have to think with consistency have poorly run the organization is no matter who the gm is, that Dolan is all over this. The gm changes but the same stupid moves take place so it has to be Dolan. That no trade clause for melo was flat out moronic and has basically set the franchise back 5-10 years. They could have done this right if melo didn't have the no trade clause.
I never thought I'd live to see the Lakers in such disarray. Spending a fortune on Mozgov, getting turned down by the likes of Bazemore...and their young talent's a bit overrated, too. If Ingram's not a franchise player, look out...
I never thought I'd live to see the Lakers in such disarray. Spending a fortune on Mozgov, getting turned down by the likes of Bazemore...and their young talent's a bit overrated, too. If Ingram's not a franchise player, look out...
You never thought you'd love it?
I've been waiting for the Lakers to be in disarray since I started watching sports. It's fucking great.
Live, meaning it didn't seem like it would happen in my lifetime.
#1 when was the last time a franchise traded a star like Melo and it lead to them being a title contender in 5-10 years? TWolves trading Garnett? Denver trading Melo? What package are they getting for Melo? multiple #1's? great so you are dealing him to a title contender and getting their shitty #1's. The bottom line is I counted. It takes a lot to come together and a lot of stars to align to make a team a title contender. How about this:
Rose is not an MVP but plays 60-65 games at the level he finished last year at. Noah gives us 65 games at normal Noah type stuff. We sign a decent 2 guard and make the playoffs. We Then have a near max or max slot for next year free agency. Thats a hell of a lot more plausible and more likely trip toward the upper tier of the East than tearing the whole thing down besides Porz and piling up #1's that end up being between #20-30 in the 1st rd.
RE: GMen the leaps you are making there are monumental
Phil just handed out one of the dumbest contracts in sports history to Joakim Noah.
A- The guy hasn't done shit in 2 years
B- Did anyone else actually want him?
I didn't think trading RoLo was a big deal, but at least I remember when he was good (he still is). Who the fuck were they bidding against for Noah? Smh.
Phil just handed out one of the dumbest contracts in sports history to Joakim Noah.
A- The guy hasn't done shit in 2 years
B- Did anyone else actually want him?
I didn't think trading RoLo was a big deal, but at least I remember when he was good (he still is). Who the fuck were they bidding against for Noah? Smh.
Many teams wanted Noah. They were immediately rebuffed by the player. This has been well documented. He wanted to be a Knick.
RE: I pray there's some option or protection for the team... otherwise,
Phil just handed out one of the dumbest contracts in sports history to Joakim Noah.
A- The guy hasn't done shit in 2 years
B- Did anyone else actually want him?
I didn't think trading RoLo was a big deal, but at least I remember when he was good (he still is). Who the fuck were they bidding against for Noah? Smh.
Am I the only one who thought Robin looked like sideshow Bob with a worse low post game? His low post was good for four points or so a game. He rebounded by default (everyone else was on the perimeter), he had horrendous hands, couldn't and didn't finish strong, looked surprised when he hit a jumper, never played D with his hands up, couldn't block shots, wasn't a rim protector, was Brook Lopez without the shot blocking ability....
Why are people mad we get it rid of him? He was terrible other than just being tall. If we were going to have a guy with no O game, I'd rather a big D goon who bodied up, protected the rim and grabbed boards....where's Dale and Antonio Davis when you need them?
I'll tell you what it was: REALITY. You guys crack me up. You are still living the fantasy of sucking and then somehow attracting a player of the caliber of Westbrook to even look at us. Have you learned nothing from the past 6 years? We are now at the point where the superstars aren't even to the point of laughing at us. THEY DON"T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EXISTENCE. We have to return to the NBA map to even have a chance. Phil rightfully realizes that we have to become relevant to attract the elite free agents. For those of you lamenting that we won't contend for a title for the next 10 years, what exactly is the path to doing that? tank for 3 years straight hoping that #1 we are lucky enough to get the #1 pick(and not drop from 2-4 like last year and #2 have the player available at #1 be a franchise changer when it has a much better opportunity of being Emeka Okafor or Anthony Bennett. Listen I'm not drop dead in lover with Rose or Noah, but if they can help us win 45 games and be a playoff team again I'm all for it. Then you can free up enough $ for a max guy next year and go from there. At least if we are a playoff team the stars will give us the time of day. This plan may not work but it sure as hell beats winning 30 games a year and hoping...because thats a long long road to tile contention.
Hornacek mainly changed Phil's tune. Hornacek said get him some good players he wants to a competitive team. Hornacek also doesn't view Melo's career arc like most of BBI. He feels Melo has several good years left to chase championships. Which I agree with. Melo is only 32 yrs old not 42. Hornacek and the core of those Jazz teams were chasing championships well into their 30s (36/37 yrs old).
And Phil as stated very recently, "Whats so great about the East?"
You never thought you'd love it?
I've been waiting for the Lakers to be in disarray since I started watching sports. It's fucking great.
Rose is not an MVP but plays 60-65 games at the level he finished last year at. Noah gives us 65 games at normal Noah type stuff. We sign a decent 2 guard and make the playoffs. We Then have a near max or max slot for next year free agency. Thats a hell of a lot more plausible and more likely trip toward the upper tier of the East than tearing the whole thing down besides Porz and piling up #1's that end up being between #20-30 in the 1st rd.
The max slot next year is possible with the Noah deal and what we're going to have to shell out for a "decent" 2 guard?
What's with the constant hashtags? #douche
Quote:
Raptors looking to snipe Meyers Leonard? Get in there Phil, Crabbe! #Knicks
What's with the constant hashtags? #douche
#GetOffMyLawn
A- The guy hasn't done shit in 2 years
B- Did anyone else actually want him?
I didn't think trading RoLo was a big deal, but at least I remember when he was good (he still is). Who the fuck were they bidding against for Noah? Smh.
Quote:
Raptors looking to snipe Meyers Leonard? Get in there Phil, Crabbe! #Knicks
What's with the constant hashtags? #douche
#Relax
A- The guy hasn't done shit in 2 years
B- Did anyone else actually want him?
I didn't think trading RoLo was a big deal, but at least I remember when he was good (he still is). Who the fuck were they bidding against for Noah? Smh.
Many teams wanted Noah. They were immediately rebuffed by the player. This has been well documented. He wanted to be a Knick.
A- The guy hasn't done shit in 2 years
B- Did anyone else actually want him?
I didn't think trading RoLo was a big deal, but at least I remember when he was good (he still is). Who the fuck were they bidding against for Noah? Smh.
Am I the only one who thought Robin looked like sideshow Bob with a worse low post game? His low post was good for four points or so a game. He rebounded by default (everyone else was on the perimeter), he had horrendous hands, couldn't and didn't finish strong, looked surprised when he hit a jumper, never played D with his hands up, couldn't block shots, wasn't a rim protector, was Brook Lopez without the shot blocking ability....
Why are people mad we get it rid of him? He was terrible other than just being tall. If we were going to have a guy with no O game, I'd rather a big D goon who bodied up, protected the rim and grabbed boards....where's Dale and Antonio Davis when you need them?