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Jason Sehorn

Route 9 : 7/1/2016 12:39 am
Thinking back to the days of the 90s when I'd watch ol #31 play every week, was wondering what were the thoughts on him drafted or prior to being to drafted? Did he have a lot of hype?

That INT catch vs Philly in 2000 was the craziest INT I've ever seen lol
Didn't really appreciate the INT at the time  
BurlyMan : 7/1/2016 12:52 am : link
because I was at the game but man that was amazing.

I remember reading that Strahan and others were in tears when he got carted off the field.
I was only 5 when he got drafted but  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 3:06 am : link
I've read that people were very high on him coming out of USC. I was reading an article a while back that said he was a top 3 athlete in all of college football. I've read that he ran a 4.3 forty at 6'2 215. With a 41 inch vertical jump, 10'10 broad jump and 28 reps of 225.
He was drafted as a safety  
Milton : 7/1/2016 3:15 am : link
And showed absolutely no instincts for the position in preseason action. As rookies, Thomas Randolph (also drafted that year in round 2) looked like he was going to be a future star and Sehorn like a bust. But Randolph never got any better and his lack of size and physicality was continually exploited. Meanwhile Sehorn was moved to CB and shined!
No idea how accurate those #s are  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2016 3:19 am : link
But when you watch him completely shut down Randy Moss 1 on 1 they don't seem unrealistic. Sehorn only gave up 2 catches for 18 yards & had an interception.
1997 Jason Sehorn  
English Alaister : 7/1/2016 6:07 am : link
was one of the top 5 CBs in the NFL. That D was loaded on the DL with Strahan and Hammer but don't forget Robert Smith and Chad Bratzke were both good talents too. Then of course Jesse was the leader of the whole unit. It all kinda overshadowed the defensive backfield but Sparks and Sehorn were the two best CBs I've seen in tandem in Giants blue. Conrad Hamilton was a pretty good nickel guy too and everyone was always pleased to see Mrs Hamilton at camp! :)

He shut down Michael Irving  
section125 : 7/1/2016 6:33 am : link
because he was faster and stronger. Irving was famous for, pushing off to make his catches. With Sehorn, who was faster and just as strong, Michael couldn't do it.

Amazing, amazing athlete.  
Boy Cord : 7/1/2016 6:50 am : link
I still get sick to my stomach thinking about his injury. A kickoff return in a meaningless preseason game.
RE: Amazing, amazing athlete.  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/1/2016 7:47 am : link
In comment 13016832 Boy Cord said:
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I still get sick to my stomach thinking about his injury. A kickoff return in a meaningless preseason game.


I love JS, but some of the bad stuff comes to mind too....the first Ravens TD in the SB....I'm not sure the deep guy was Jason's, but that first quick TD struck doubts early in the game. Nobody talked about Dilfer and the Ravens offense....That killed me and it changed the tone quickly.

The "let me pull up my pants (forget against who) and let them score" killed me too.
RE: Amazing, amazing athlete.  
bluepepper : 7/1/2016 7:48 am : link
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I still get sick to my stomach thinking about his injury. A kickoff return in a meaningless preseason game.

And all because HE wanted to return kicks. Coaching f-up. We had other guys who could return kicks. Don't let the players pick their positions.
I was at the shore with my wife and kids  
joeinpa : 7/1/2016 8:11 am : link
Watching that game when he got hurt on the opening kick off. It put a dames on that vacation He almost got cut before they moved him to corner. He might have been the best corner I ever saw play for the Giants. I ve been a fan since 56.
The thing I remember most about Sehorn,  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 7/1/2016 8:25 am : link
Was at training camp in Albany. Fassel had them running gassers at the end of practice, and by the end he was so far out in front of the rest of the team it was ridiculous.
I just rewatched the 2000 Championship game against the Vikings  
Moondawg : 7/1/2016 8:27 am : link
for those who haven't seen it, please do. What an amazing game. Moss had like 2 or 3 catches.
We had great seats at the Eagles game  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/1/2016 8:32 am : link
The Int was right in front of us. I could see it was a pick immediately. I remember jumping up, that's a catch!

I also recall a game maybe the year before. I was sitting behind the bench with my son and some drunk is yelling, "hey Sehorn, who's banging your wife tonight?". Sehorn yells back at the guy but I couldn't hear what he said. It was ugly.
RE: RE: Amazing, amazing athlete.  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/1/2016 8:33 am : link
In comment 13016855 bluepepper said:
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I still get sick to my stomach thinking about his injury. A kickoff return in a meaningless preseason game.


And all because HE wanted to return kicks. Coaching f-up. We had other guys who could return kicks. Don't let the players pick their positions.


That's bullshit, football is a tough sport. He could have been hurt anytime.
RE: We had great seats at the Eagles game  
njm : 7/1/2016 8:39 am : link
In comment 13016895 AP in Halfmoon said:
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The Int was right in front of us. I could see it was a pick immediately. I remember jumping up, that's a catch!

I also recall a game maybe the year before. I was sitting behind the bench with my son and some drunk is yelling, "hey Sehorn, who's banging your wife tonight?". Sehorn yells back at the guy but I couldn't hear what he said. It was ugly.


Happened right in front of me as well. Wasn't sure he didn't trap it until he got up and began to run
Yeah that injury  
HoustonGiant : 7/1/2016 9:08 am : link
killed his speed, and his career....
During the off season after 1995  
djstat : 7/1/2016 9:09 am : link
The MO on Sehorn was, "A very very great athlete, just not a very great football player." -- Lindy's Football.

Then came '96 and everything clicked.

He was a stud player. Sad his injury changed his career
njm  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/1/2016 9:15 am : link
Times have changed. I lived in a small college town at the time. They had a coffee shop with a Ticketmaster outlet. The Giants announced when tickets were going on sale and I arrived an hour early. I practically forced this kid to stand there entering 4 best seats over and over until I got the tickets.
One of the best  
Flash : 7/1/2016 9:19 am : link
all around football athletes. Certainly the best Giants corner back. His wife is my all time favorite gal celebrity.
RE: njm  
njm : 7/1/2016 9:19 am : link
In comment 13016994 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Times have changed. I lived in a small college town at the time. They had a coffee shop with a Ticketmaster outlet. The Giants announced when tickets were going on sale and I arrived an hour early. I practically forced this kid to stand there entering 4 best seats over and over until I got the tickets.


Got my ticket from a season ticket holder who had to participate in a charity telethon that was being held that day. Paid face plus a $25. contribution to the charity. Good deal all ways around.
I remember  
jtfuoco : 7/1/2016 9:25 am : link
After he hurt his knee he ran back out on the field for a play and I thought to myself he is going to be okay it was crushing when you found out the total extent of the injury. He was a great athlete and in my mind like Deion Sanders he could have been a situational offensive/Special teams threat.
He was shutting down the likes of....  
BillKo : 7/1/2016 9:31 am : link
Chris Carter (out jumping him for balls) and Irvin as someone previously said.

Was a freak athlete, who was on the verge of becoming a superstar in the league IMO.

Then he hurt the knee the following preseason and nevergot back to where he was. Even in 2000, he really struggled a lot of that year. Then he had the playoff run, and the Giants had to pay him.

In hindsight, they should have signed Tiki's brother.........
RE: I remember  
BillKo : 7/1/2016 9:34 am : link
In comment 13017018 jtfuoco said:
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After he hurt his knee he ran back out on the field for a play and I thought to myself he is going to be okay it was crushing when you found out the total extent of the injury. He was a great athlete and in my mind like Deion Sanders he could have been a situational offensive/Special teams threat.


I don't remember him running back on the field. But I do remember the doctor looking at him on the sideline, and after they knew what it was, it was almost like Sehorn was consoling the doctor....as if he felt terrible telling Jason that he has just tore the ACL and was done.
RE: One of the best  
Boy Cord : 7/1/2016 9:44 am : link
In comment 13017003 Flash said:
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all around football athletes. Certainly the best Giants corner back. His wife is my all time favorite gal celebrity.


Ex-wife, right. I thought he split with Harmon.
My memories of Sehorn  
Pepe LePugh : 7/1/2016 10:35 am : link
I went to preseason at Browns in Sehorn's second yr I think. Andre Rison wide open with BIG cushion. Don't know if he was Sehorn's responsibility or not, but he must have been 10 yards clear when he made the catch. I looked down thinking it was a TD, and when I looked up #31 came charging up to make the tackle. Had to look at program to see who is this guy?
Later against Cards, up by 5-6 points, under a minute. Cards had the ball down to around 15. 4 passes to end zone. Sehorn was the "extra DB." He was within a step of rcvr on all four (incomplete) pass attempts, and I remember thinking with a year of experience, those would be INT's.
Couple years later, he was at least top 3 on team in INT, PD, sacks, tackles, FF and recoveries. He shut down Irving, Art Monk, Herman Moore........combined 1 TD in 5 games.
He was at a disadvantage against the "Smurf" type of rcvrs, but against the big rcvrs that were dominating the league at the time, he was a true shut down corner.
RE: RE: One of the best  
Torn Tendon : 7/1/2016 10:55 am : link
In comment 13017045 Boy Cord said:
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all around football athletes. Certainly the best Giants corner back. His wife is my all time favorite gal celebrity.



Ex-wife, right. I thought he split with Harmon.

She's hot but I hate her political views
Sehorn's first wife........  
GeorgeAdams33 : 7/1/2016 11:07 am : link
Not Angie Harmon, but his first wife slept with that traitor asshole dickface Danny Kannell who was the worst starter we've had in my 40 years plus watching the GMen. What a douche.
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arcarsenal : 7/1/2016 11:13 am : link
Pre injury Sehorn was one of the fastest white dudes I can ever remember seeing in the NFL.
wasn't the problem after the knee injury how he rehabbed it?  
Greg from LI : 7/1/2016 11:52 am : link
He chose to do this training regimen with Marv Marinovich, of all people, and got so bulked up that he lost more quickness and speed than he had to? After the injury he played at 230 or so, I believe.
When he was at his best,  
Doomster : 7/1/2016 12:28 pm : link
he would take on the other team's best receiver, whether they lined up on either side.....

After the injury, he could not cut quickly in the opposite direction, so if he went for a fake, he couldn't recover as fast as he use to....

I don't care what anyone says, he shouldn't have been returning kickoffs in a preseason game....

At his best, he was a shutdown corner, and one of my faves......
There was a game against the Cowboys  
BurlyMan : 7/1/2016 1:11 pm : link
where I think he had two INTS against Michael Irvin, one of which he ripped out of Irvin's hands and Irvin was so upset he was on the sidelines crying.
RE: RE: Amazing, amazing athlete.  
Randy in CT : 7/1/2016 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13016855 bluepepper said:
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I still get sick to my stomach thinking about his injury. A kickoff return in a meaningless preseason game.


And all because HE wanted to return kicks. Coaching f-up. We had other guys who could return kicks. Don't let the players pick their positions.
How dumb.
RE: wasn't the problem after the knee injury how he rehabbed it?  
Matt M. : 7/1/2016 1:40 pm : link
In comment 13017404 Greg from LI said:
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He chose to do this training regimen with Marv Marinovich, of all people, and got so bulked up that he lost more quickness and speed than he had to? After the injury he played at 230 or so, I believe.
I had forgotten about that, but I think you are right.
I never had a problem with him returning kicks.  
Matt M. : 7/1/2016 1:42 pm : link
The year before they had a dismal return game. It was a coach's decision, not his. He was the most athletic and fastest guy on the team. It made sense. I also remember reading back then that KR was the least likely position to sustain an injury.
RE: RE: We had great seats at the Eagles game  
glowrider : 7/1/2016 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13016907 njm said:
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The Int was right in front of us. I could see it was a pick immediately. I remember jumping up, that's a catch!

I also recall a game maybe the year before. I was sitting behind the bench with my son and some drunk is yelling, "hey Sehorn, who's banging your wife tonight?". Sehorn yells back at the guy but I couldn't hear what he said. It was ugly.



Happened right in front of me as well. Wasn't sure he didn't trap it until he got up and began to run


Was also there and it was right in front of my little group.

Ron Dixon started that game off with a KR TD - best game I've personally ever attended at Giants Stadium.
Rod Woodson is in the Hall of Fame  
Greg from LI : 7/1/2016 1:51 pm : link
5 time All-Pro, 11 Pro Bowls....and he returned 260 punts and 222 kicks in his career. Deion returned 212 punts and 155 kicks. Tim Brown is in Canton and returned 202 punts and 49 kicks. This idea that great players shouldn't play special teams is asinine and nothing more than bitching after the fact. Hell, LT played special teams for years.
there weren't many CBs that were better  
djm : 7/1/2016 1:52 pm : link
than 1996-1997 Sehorn. That guy was elite. He was a mess in 99 coming back from the injury but rebounded in 2000 with a solid year, despite losing much of his athletic ability.

Fassel should be lauded for trying to maximize Sehorn's talents but fans kill him because of the injury. That's unfair. Deion and Daryl Green played specials and shined. LT even played special teams.
and the pulling up the pants incident is overblown too  
djm : 7/1/2016 1:54 pm : link
Sehorn wasn't catching that Lions player. The guy was scoring no matter what might as well pull your pants up.

Sehorn wasn't the same player in 2000 by a long shot. He got by on instincts and guile more than AA. Sad to think how good he would have been after gaining the experience because in 96-97 he was still a younger player.
Jason was without a doubt one of the top 5 athletes...  
Torrag : 7/1/2016 1:55 pm : link
...in the entire NFL at the time of his injury. He was earning recognition as one of the top CB's as well. Sadly he was a shadow of himself when he returned.
it was just shit luck  
Greg from LI : 7/1/2016 1:56 pm : link
And people act as if Sehorn never would have blown his knee out playing corner. Cmon.
Sehorn ran back kickoffs in college and he pestered Fassel  
GeofromNJ : 7/1/2016 2:00 pm : link
to let him do it in the pros. It wasn't as if Sehorn didn't know how to maneuver in traffic, but it was a needless risk. After the game, Strahan had tears in his eyes in the clubhouse. Told the reporters that we just lost our team leader. A season or two before the injury, Michael Irvin had tears in his eyes sitting on the bench in Dallas near the end of a Giants game - tears of frustration because Sehorn knocked away every 'out pass' targeted to Irvin.
Everyone forgets  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/1/2016 3:41 pm : link
The on-side kick he took to the house against the Jacksonville Jags on their way to the Super Bowl in 1999. That was a sick play.
He was on his way to becoming an absolute  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 7/1/2016 3:50 pm : link
superstar before he blew his knee out.

Funny story: my Old Man's friend was a season ticket holder &, after the Giants lost to Baltimore earlier that season, gave him his seats for the Giants-Skins home game thinking it was a lost season.

I think Sehorn had 2 picks in that game. 19 years later, I can still see him running that 2nd pick back towards the back of the end zone where we were sitting.
BurlyMan  
GeorgeAdams33 : 7/6/2016 6:30 pm : link
I do believe that it was Phillippi Sparks who made Irvin cry out of frustration. When Sparks & Sehorn were at the top of their game they were the best CB tandem I'd seen on this team. I always had wished we could've kept Mark Haynes because if he was paired with Mark Collins we would've destroyed passing games.
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