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Eli: Giants "definitely" a playoff team

Big Blue '56 : 7/7/2016 12:42 pm
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“Yeah, definitely,” Manning said, via the New York Post. “We added some great players in the offseason. We were aggressive in free agency, but still have a lot of our core guys, especially on offense, back and I think we made some good moves on defense. We’re getting some guys back healthy. It’s just a matter of, hey, the talent is there, can we put it together, can we find a way to win the games and play our best football when we need to?”

Manning ran through a couple of reasons why the Giants might not be able to translate that talent into success, including injuries and “how you’ll respond in critical situations in games.” Both were sore spots in the last few years of Tom Coughlin’s run on the sideline and changing things on those fronts could prove to be as crucial to the team’s hopes as any of their offseason maneuvers.


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I keep saying it  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/7/2016 12:44 pm : link
We are the best team in the division. You can point to where we have holes, but all teams who aren't obvious Super Bowl contenders have them. I don't think we're hoisting the Lombardi this year (though who knows), but there's no reason this team can't win double digit games.
Agreed Mike  
muhajir : 7/7/2016 12:47 pm : link
On paper we're the most talented team in the division. Very balanced and have star power at multiple levels on O and D. If we dont have a drastic uptick in wins i think it will be an indictment of our coaches rather then front office this yr.
RE: I keep saying it  
Big Blue '56 : 7/7/2016 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13024495 Mike in Long Beach said:
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We are the best team in the division. You can point to where we have holes, but all teams who aren't obvious Super Bowl contenders have them. I don't think we're hoisting the Lombardi this year (though who knows), but there's no reason this team can't win double digit games.


If we make it to the playoffs, our chances of hoisting the Lombardi are as good as, if not better than, anyone else in the tourney, imo
RE: Agreed Mike  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/7/2016 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13024502 muhajir said:
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On paper we're the most talented team in the division. Very balanced and have star power at multiple levels on O and D. If we dont have a drastic uptick in wins i think it will be an indictment of our coaches rather then front office this yr.


For the most part I agree, though one could argue our biggest offseason need (a quality pass rusher) was addressed with a player who's been very good, but not someone who's lit the world on fire... and we gave him a whole lot of money. A lot of what the Giants do is going to depend on Vernon being worth his contract. I believe our tackles are going to be stout run defenders, but the ends are very uncertain, which was not what we wanted by FA's end.

Still, JPP with more recovery time and Vernon is a far better situation than what we had last year (Ayers' quality season aside). It can easily be argued that the Giants overpaid in FA, but what you can't argue is whether or not the team is improved. We are better. Much better. And unless Murphy's law hits us for the 4th straight fricking year, we should be a very tough opponent.

I'm saying 11-5.
I still think a veteran OL is going to be signed off the scrap heap  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/7/2016 12:53 pm : link
once camp gets under way. A quality depth player with experience and success that can be had for cheap.
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arcarsenal : 7/7/2016 12:54 pm : link
Football is just too hard to project because injuries create such a large variance. Even looking at a schedule almost feels pointless. Seeing a team on the schedule in November right now may seem easy but once that weekend rolls around, all of a sudden that game could seem way more difficult.

On paper, yeah.. Eli is right. We should be. I like the roster we're going into this season with. I think Reese did well this offseason both in FA and the draft (obviously remains to be seen)

I think we have the most well-rounded team in the division right now and the most talent overall.. but we all know how quickly that can change.
Play some games  
Shadow : 7/7/2016 12:56 pm : link
first!
ughhhhh  
UConn4523 : 7/7/2016 12:57 pm : link
its July 7th.
agree with Mike  
Tuckrule : 7/7/2016 1:05 pm : link
this division once again looks weak. Our offense was great last year and can be even better with the additions of shepard, cruz and tye being the full time starting tight end. Been said before but if this defense showed up a few more times late in games last season we come away with the division. Adding jenkins, snacks, veron and hankins coming back from injury along with kennard sounds great to me. This team can win doub
hate the iphone  
Tuckrule : 7/7/2016 1:05 pm : link
double digit wins*
Injuries or not, there is enough talent across all positions  
LI NHB : 7/7/2016 1:06 pm : link
on this team where a missed playoff berth would be a massive disappointment.

I am thrilled to hear Eli taking a bit of a different approach this offseason, especially with regards to how he addresses the media. He is 35 and coming off his best statistical season and the team's talent pool is significantly upgraded. He is speaking like a leader who isn't hoping for a great season, but rather expecting it.

2016 could be quite a year.
The most talented team in July  
Sec 103 : 7/7/2016 1:10 pm : link
Let's see how late December looks...
I like the confidence...  
Torrag : 7/7/2016 1:11 pm : link
...now prove it on the field week in and week out. There are still questions to be answered.
I think we're only two top-tier players away ....  
Manny in CA : 7/7/2016 1:12 pm : link

From bring a top five team -

* Offensive Right tackle

* Dominant sideline-to-sideline COVER LB or strong safety

I don't think either is on the roster at the present time (and may not be available this year via trade or free agency)
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christian : 7/7/2016 1:13 pm : link
The wildcard is always injury. But on paper this team is talented enough to be in the mix.

If a rival had the secondary and d-line talent we have, we would be scared of those units.
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Danny Kanell : 7/7/2016 1:19 pm : link
arc has gone all Hollywood on us. Shame. This was right in his wheelhouse back in the day.
SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
ArcadeSlumlord : 7/7/2016 1:19 pm : link
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8-)
This is somewhat lowkey under the bus stuff  
Mason : 7/7/2016 1:32 pm : link
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“how you’ll respond in critical situations in games.” Both were sore spots in the last few years of Tom Coughlin’s run on the sideline and changing things on those fronts could prove to be as crucial to the team’s hopes as any of their offseason maneuvers.


I agree but surprising from who it is coming from
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arcarsenal : 7/7/2016 1:37 pm : link
In comment 13024573 Danny Kanell said:
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arc has gone all Hollywood on us. Shame. This was right in his wheelhouse back in the day.


You're right.

Don't worry, I haven't completely retired.
injuries have  
area junc : 7/7/2016 1:42 pm : link
destroyed every season since the 11 Super Bowl

if, under mcadoo we can simply become a normally injured team we will be tough
Bottomline...we'll have to see  
micky : 7/7/2016 2:01 pm : link
right now all 32 teams in their minds are playoff teams, why else wouldn't they say nor think it?

wait and see.
RE: I think we're only two top-tier players away ....  
djstat : 7/7/2016 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13024557 Manny in CA said:
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From bring a top five team -

* Offensive Right tackle

* Dominant sideline-to-sideline COVER LB or strong safety

I don't think either is on the roster at the present time (and may not be available this year via trade or free agency)
Collins is a legit strong safety
When Eli got drafted, there were people who felt he was too laid back  
Ira : 7/7/2016 2:06 pm : link
to lead a team. You don't hear that said much anymore.
let's hope. alot of things have to come together quickly.  
Victor in CT : 7/7/2016 2:07 pm : link
And yes, Collins is a legit SS.
Biggest question mark, imo...  
Dan in the Springs : 7/7/2016 2:11 pm : link
isn't RT or any other position.

It's head coach. I don't know what we lost when we lost Coughlin, but believe we lost a lot on the preparation side. Not sure if we'll have the same kind of advantage in preparation that Coughlin brought.
Few Thoughts  
Samiam : 7/7/2016 2:14 pm : link
The Giants can have a relatively injury free season this year but if one of the season ending injuries is Eli, the season is over. While it's true the team has decimated by big time player injuries the past few years, we've been lucky that the one player who can't be replaced didn't have to be replaced.

Second, as bad a team as the Giants were last year, with decent coaching, the club could have won the division. They gave away several games with both inept coaching (Dallas) and just bad coaching in several other games. If we started last season winning the first couple of games, who knows how the season would have turned out. I've been a huge Coughlin fan since he coached the WRs in the 1980s but he needed to be replaced and between that, and the free agents and what looks like a good draft class and the return of some of the injured especially JPP, Eli's in not close to going out on a limb. They can get to the playoffs and do some damage.

Last, this Newhouse talk is tiring to me. He clearly is not a very good RT. But, the OL did not have a really bad year last year and with Eli's quick release and some WRs who can get open quick, the OL is not being asked to block for deep drops. The OL does have to get better rushing the ball but I don't think the team will strive for the balance that Coughlin wanted and a quick pass can have the same effect that a run can even at the goal line and in the last few minutes of the game especially if we have a TE who can catch and I think we do. Plus, Newhouse, Jerry and company have now played together for a season and with an OL, familiarity can make the sum total better than the individuals.
Listen, it's July as many have said  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/7/2016 2:17 pm : link
So that means, literally, the only thing that can be discussed is what's on paper. No one is saying projections are gospel here.

But on paper, since that's all we have, I'd put us at the top.
Can the "it's July" posters  
ANGPASS : 7/7/2016 2:26 pm : link
please shut up. If "it's July" why are you even on here?
RE: Can the  
Klaatu : 7/7/2016 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13024710 ANGPASS said:
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please shut up. If "it's July" why are you even on here?


Because it's July.
RE: Biggest question mark, imo...  
Victor in CT : 7/7/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13024682 Dan in the Springs said:
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isn't RT or any other position.

It's head coach. I don't know what we lost when we lost Coughlin, but believe we lost a lot on the preparation side. Not sure if we'll have the same kind of advantage in preparation that Coughlin brought.


great point Dan
Agree with Dan as well.  
Big Blue '56 : 7/7/2016 2:58 pm : link
With other important areas presumably shored up(TBD), I'm not all that concerned about the right side if we opt to go with Hart, Newhouse, Jerry or someone else presently on the roster.

No, like Dan and Victor, My biggest concern outside of depth-reducing injuries, is the new HC. I like him. I think. I'm optimistic. I think. But he's new, so we really are in wait, see and pray mode..

The one saving grace, is that unlike most newbie HCs, he starts his regime with a two-time SB winner/MVP and most likely a future HOFer in tow. That's a HUGE advantage when you're starting anew, imv..Eli's presence is the major reason I am not apprehensive about McAdoo..But, it still merits a concern, imo
RE: injuries have  
Giantology : 7/7/2016 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13024624 area junc said:
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destroyed every season since the 11 Super Bowl

if, under mcadoo we can simply become a normally injured team we will be tough


Especially once we acquire Davis. What's the latest from Davis' camp?
RE: Agree with Dan as well.  
Rick5 : 7/7/2016 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13024771 Big Blue '56 said:
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With other important areas presumably shored up(TBD), I'm not all that concerned about the right side if we opt to go with Hart, Newhouse, Jerry or someone else presently on the roster.

No, like Dan and Victor, My biggest concern outside of depth-reducing injuries, is the new HC. I like him. I think. I'm optimistic. I think. But he's new, so we really are in wait, see and pray mode..

The one saving grace, is that unlike most newbie HCs, he starts his regime with a two-time SB winner/MVP and most likely a future HOFer in tow. That's a HUGE advantage when you're starting anew, imv..Eli's presence is the major reason I am not apprehensive about McAdoo..But, it still merits a concern, imo

I agree with the others too. There's no way to predict at this point how BM will turn out as a HC.
We have a QB who is a 2 time Super Bowl MVP  
Coach Mason : 7/7/2016 5:28 pm : link
We have upgraded multiple spots including the most important one after QB and thats pass eush. We have a chance to have an excellent receiver corps. We have 3 great corners and some exciting players who starred in OTAs.

This team if the injuries finally normalize should be able to play with ANY NFL team. We went toe to toe last year with many of rhe top teams and this team is a big upgrade almost across the board.
Eli said what? A playoff team? Seriously?  
Klaatu : 7/7/2016 5:31 pm : link
Why the poor simple boob...the misguided fool. Doesn't he realize how things like this can come back to bite you in the ass? Like calling yourself an elite quarterback before the season begins. Bad form. Bad news. Bad all around. Nothing good ever comes from stuff like this.
They better be.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/7/2016 5:37 pm : link
No excuses this year. They got rid of the coach.
Methinks,  
Doomster : 7/7/2016 6:38 pm : link
Eli is excited this year!
I don't know if they will make the playoffs  
AnnapolisMike : 7/7/2016 6:59 pm : link
But barring major injuries...this really should be a 9-10 win team. Same to slightly better offense and the defense should be much better.
RE: RE: injuries have  
arcarsenal : 7/7/2016 7:07 pm : link
In comment 13024802 Giantology said:
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In comment 13024624 area junc said:


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destroyed every season since the 11 Super Bowl

if, under mcadoo we can simply become a normally injured team we will be tough



Especially once we acquire Davis. What's the latest from Davis' camp?


Deal to be announced shortly....
Eli needs to STFU  
mdc1 : 7/7/2016 7:14 pm : link
and the team needs to win against the schedule with
upper tier competition. This is marketing self serving. crap
coming from a high paid QB. prove it, they post standings for a reason

Look at the record over the last 4 seasons, you can't hide
From the data and facts
If we have anything close to  
Shadow : 7/7/2016 7:14 pm : link
Cruz Nicks Manningham circa 2011 then we will be very dangerous. Eli is going into the third year of the Mac WCO so he should be playing by feel and not thinking about how to execute at all. Third year QBs in the WCO usually excel.
love this pic  
Shadow : 7/7/2016 7:15 pm : link
One thing is for certain  
blueblood'11 : 7/7/2016 7:35 pm : link
This team should be fun to watch.
We will make Manningham and Pasco  
Shadow : 7/7/2016 7:56 pm : link
Beat us! -little Bill
"I can't cover no option route all day!...when i go inside, the man  
Shadow : 7/7/2016 8:01 pm : link
goes outside"
49ers Carlos Rodgers on Victor Cruz NFC Championship game
Last time Eli said something like this  
David B. : 7/7/2016 8:56 pm : link
it was that he was "Elite." And he went out and won a SB -- while being elite.

The biggest coaching advantages ....  
Manny in CA : 7/7/2016 11:19 pm : link

* The team doesn't have to start over; I'm very sure Mcadoo learned a
lot from Tom Coughlin about preparing and motivating a team

* McAdoo attacked the coaching weaknesses that he saw. I think the
new key choices are Mike Solari (offensive line); Bill McGovern
(linebackers), Mike Sullivan (offensive coordinator) and Aaron
Wellman (strength)
Agree with You Big Blue 56  
Bluesbreaker : 7/8/2016 5:53 pm : link
I think we will need a few key parts added ...
Vet DL WR OL and I think the Sky's the Limit .
A main reason the Giants are a playoff team is because  
Jimmy Googs : 7/8/2016 7:49 pm : link
they haven't made the playoffs in a while...
The Giants dont need a vet WR  
blueblood : 7/9/2016 9:26 pm : link
at all.
I agree and expect them to win the division  
PatersonPlank : 7/10/2016 10:56 am : link
However what is he supposed to say? Could you imagine if the captain of the team comes out and says we will suck and maybe win 5 games?
RE: I agree and expect them to win the division  
Big Blue '56 : 7/10/2016 12:49 pm : link
In comment 13028157 PatersonPlank said:
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However what is he supposed to say? Could you imagine if the captain of the team comes out and says we will suck and maybe win 5 games?


True, PP, but save for his "Yes, I consider myself elite," Eli is usually bery careful with his words. He could have said, "yes, that's what we're striving for." That would have been more Eli, imv
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