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4 Huge Position Battles this Summer - Which One Excites You?

gidiefor : Mod : 7/11/2016 3:11 pm
It seems like all four of these groups could be upended this season - and in particular Tight Ends imho - which one has your interest?

Running Backs
Tight Ends
Line Backers
Safeties
All of them.  
Klaatu : 7/11/2016 3:12 pm : link
But mostly Tight Ends.
None, really  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2016 3:15 pm : link
Because it's not like the depth is so strong at those positions is so alluring. If I had to pick, reluctantly, I'd say running back. I think 1 of the 4 will step up and have a nice season. It's almost the most important position of the ones you listed to make some strides.
It's possible that Rookies  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/11/2016 3:16 pm : link
could win starting positions in all four groups!
RE: None, really  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/11/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13029468 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Because it's not like the depth is so strong at those positions is so alluring.


MiLB - McAdoo comes from a culture that depended on Home Grown Talent -- let's call it HGT -- You don't thonk that if rookies win positions in all four groups that suddenly they become deep
All  
Matt M. : 7/11/2016 3:19 pm : link
but RB the least because the real competition is really for the 4th spot between guys who aren't likely to touch the ball much, in my opinion. Jennings will still start, Vereen is still the 3rd down back, and I expect Perkins to be the 3rd back in the rotation.

I like the TE competition because they don't seem to have a true #1, but a bunch of guys that could all be #2s. They could all complement each other well. I think it will be hard to decide on the final 3 TEs, but they can use some interesting formations with their WRs and TEs and then having Vereen or Perkins in the mix.

LB could be interesting, but maybe more from the depth positions. Same goes for S.
Tight end is the most exciting  
Jay on the Island : 7/11/2016 3:20 pm : link
There are four players that could make a case for starting but only 3 total spots. Donnell, Tye, Adams, LaCosse, and even Malleck has turned some heads. I don't think that they will keep four TE's because Will Johnson can line up as an HBack and can serve as an emergency fill in.
Rookies aren't winning all 4 of those spots  
BillT : 7/11/2016 3:23 pm : link
Maybe FS, that's it. Goodson was running 3rd string in mini camp, Perkins was still attending classes and Adams was invisible. Malleck got more press.
RE: RE: None, really  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/11/2016 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13029475 gidiefor said:
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In comment 13029468 Mike in Long Beach said:


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Because it's not like the depth is so strong at those positions is so alluring.



MiLB - McAdoo comes from a culture that depended on Home Grown Talent -- let's call it HGT -- You don't thonk that if rookies win positions in all four groups that suddenly they become deep


Home grown or not, none of the positions the OP listed have exciting position battles to me because, regardless of how they arrived in blue, I don't think the players have much potential. Will Tye snuck up on people and he can be a quality player, but is anyone really predicting him or Donnell to light the world on fire?

I'm more excited to see how a guy like Sterling Shepard (home grown) fits into the system. Will he be competing with Victor Cruz for playing time? A tight end? Fullback? Not sure how it'll shake out, but I know that's a very talented kid who's going to have to battle to get on the field.

At this point, Donnell beating out Tye or Williams beating out Jennings doesn't blow my hair back.
Actually - ORT  
njm : 7/11/2016 3:25 pm : link
That's the most wide open and quite possibly the most important.
centerfield  
Rocky369 : 7/11/2016 3:26 pm : link
and speed at OLB.
I understand why you put safefy  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2016 3:28 pm : link
But I think it is basically sealed up at this point. If anything maybe we are looking for our 3rd safety.
RE: Actually - ORT  
Klaatu : 7/11/2016 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13029487 njm said:
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That's the most wide open and quite possibly the most important.


How do you figure?
RE: I understand why you put safefy  
Klaatu : 7/11/2016 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13029494 robbieballs2003 said:
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But I think it is basically sealed up at this point. If anything maybe we are looking for our 3rd safety.


The starters are probably locked up, but the other two or three spots (probably three) should be up for grabs.
Linebacker  
mfsd : 7/11/2016 3:31 pm : link
yes, it feels like we have a bunch of nice depth guys but no dependable playmakers...but...if Kennard can stay healthy...if Goodson proves as good as the draft day chatter about him hinted...if Robinson or Brinkley come to camp ready to play and a starting spot...maybe we won't be so bad?
Excites??  
x meadowlander : 7/11/2016 3:32 pm : link
Most of the battles offer me HOPE, not excitement. HOPE that the Free Agent and Draft Pick backfills WORK.

BUT - Running Back actually looks interesting this season. Some nice new blood, the potential of Darkwa - I feel like this group can bring back a solid, chain-moving, consistent running game, and might - MIGHT even deliver a star.

TE  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/11/2016 3:33 pm : link
and there may be a surprise at RB
TE intrigues me the most  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2016 3:39 pm : link
Because we have seen reports saying Donnell is our guy to him being released. The position is all over the place. LaCosse seemed to start off hot but then cooled off with Malleck showing a lot of promise as a 2 way TE. Adams is talked about as a long term solution. Tye had a very nice year last year as an undrafted rookie. You could ask 6 people how our TE position will workk out and you will probably get 6 different answers and they could all be wrong.
I've never been excited over position battles.  
Big Blue '56 : 7/11/2016 3:49 pm : link
Just the games, Poppy..
RE: RE: Actually - ORT  
njm : 7/11/2016 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13029496 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13029487 njm said:


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That's the most wide open and quite possibly the most important.



How do you figure?


I have a higher opinion of Flowers than many here. ORT is the one starting position on the OL that prevents the starters from being a quality group. Can the highly mediocre starter improve? Can the kid step up? Is the starter not even on the roster?
FS.  
Vin_Cuccs : 7/11/2016 4:04 pm : link
Literally anyone could win it.

I would say likelihood in order:

Darian Thompson
Nat Berne
Bennett Jackson
Mykkele Thompson
Justin Currie
Cooper Taylor
Andrew Adams

Also, I think FS is probably the only starting spot up for grabs.

Depth at other spots could be real ingesting battles too.

4th DE
Slot CB
4th and 5th WR
LB's
4th DT
TE's
There is a position battle at RB?  
Jimmy Googs : 7/11/2016 4:23 pm : link
I would figure #1 at the beginning of the season is clearly Jennings and hope to have #1 be Perkins at the end of the season (or likely beg of next year).

Vareen is the 3rd down back, and everybody else whatever...
Tight End probably will be the most competitive.  
Jimmy Googs : 7/11/2016 4:26 pm : link
LB will be too but unfortunately not exactly "one for the ages..."
MLB is the one I am looking forward to  
gmen9892 : 7/11/2016 4:58 pm : link
Between Brinkley had a decent close to the season last season, and with a better understanding of the defense plus playing behind a MUCH improved DL, he will only improve.

My hope is that Goodson overtakes them all and shows good enough to where he is in position to get snaps early in the season, if not starting. He is the youngest, and ultimately, probably the most talented of the bunch.
RE: RE: RE: None, really  
ColHowPepper : 7/11/2016 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13029485 Mike in Long Beach said:
[quo In comment 13029468 Mike in Long Beach said: ....
Quote: At this point, Donnell beating out Tye or Williams beating out Jennings doesn't blow my hair back. [/quote]
Mike, I would agree; in fact I'll go you one further: if Donnell winds up the starter, I'll consider it a step backwards. Tye was reliable and a bit versatile. LaCosse seems like he can block a little. It seems Adams is in over his head in adjusting to this level, for the time being. We know what Donnell is and his pass catching upside is neutralized by his inability to block and his propensity to put the ball on the ground. it's not pretty, imo.
I could get excited  
lugnut : 7/11/2016 5:37 pm : link
about being in a position with Margot Robbie.
LB  
George : 7/11/2016 5:51 pm : link
I'm praying that Goodson comes to camp ready to play.

I think D. Thompson wins the Safety battle by mid-August and that the RB rotation will get settled by then, too.

TEs baffle me. I have no idea what the hell the Giants really have and who the hell the Giants like. This is one battle that doesn't excite me at all. It scares the bejebus out of me.
RE: All  
AcidTest : 7/11/2016 6:29 pm : link
In comment 13029478 Matt M. said:
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but RB the least because the real competition is really for the 4th spot between guys who aren't likely to touch the ball much, in my opinion. Jennings will still start, Vereen is still the 3rd down back, and I expect Perkins to be the 3rd back in the rotation.

I like the TE competition because they don't seem to have a true #1, but a bunch of guys that could all be #2s. They could all complement each other well. I think it will be hard to decide on the final 3 TEs, but they can use some interesting formations with their WRs and TEs and then having Vereen or Perkins in the mix.

LB could be interesting, but maybe more from the depth positions. Same goes for S.


^This.
I don't see any rookie  
Bill in UT : 7/11/2016 6:35 pm : link
but Thompson starting at those 4 positions and as Robbie said, the job is probably already his
FWIW. Feagles' pick as surprise starter for 2016  
BlueLou : 7/11/2016 7:55 pm : link
Named today was Kelvin Sheppard among a projected starting trio at LB of Kennard, Robinson, and Sheppard.

He didn't say whom he projected where, but sounds like Sheppard at Mike at Robinson at Wil.

I'll pick LB as the most intriguing as well as most wide open camp battle. Only a healthy Kennard has a starting role locked up.
RE: I could get excited  
Vin R : 7/11/2016 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13029659 lugnut said:
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about being in a position with Margot Robbie.


/thread
Right now just hoping for guys to show  
JerseyCityJoe : 7/11/2016 8:41 pm : link
that don't suck at those positions. Its hard to get excited at that criteria.
I think it's the green tomato ends...  
BMac : 7/11/2016 8:52 pm : link
...against the Escolar!
see now  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/11/2016 9:00 pm : link
BMac not only reads my food posts -- he remembers them!
A position battle of some sort with Margot Robbie  
Frank in Silver Spring : 7/12/2016 8:00 am : link
Really would be a nice way to start training camp. Boost attendance a wee bit too, me thinks.
RE: Actually - ORT  
Giants2012 : 7/12/2016 8:27 am : link
In comment 13029487 njm said:
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That's the most wide open and quite possibly the most important.


+1

RT might be the hottest topic and most watched battle. Will anybody emerge to solidify the position?
Frank in SS  
lugnut : 7/12/2016 10:07 am : link
Great minds think alike. Perhaps that's the legacy of CD Pubs. Do you know who I am?
Safety isn't going to be a competition  
ANGPASS : 7/12/2016 10:12 am : link
That is Darian Thompson.

TEs is intriguing but LBs and RBs are really good
WR  
djm : 7/12/2016 10:17 am : link
just because Cruz and SS have all but been handed starting jobs doesn't mean the position is settled. Those guys will be battling the NFL this summer. One is a rookie the other hasn't played in 2 years. To me the WR "battle" is front page worthy.
Lugnut  
Frank in Silver Spring : 7/12/2016 10:33 am : link
The CD Pubs part of my life was interesting to say the least, but I'm stumped as to you (?) Please tell!
I'm most interested in ORT, FS, and LB  
PatersonPlank : 7/12/2016 10:49 am : link
Can Hart beat out Newhouse?
Is Darius the guy, or does Behr/Jackson slip in there?
Can Goodson get the start? Will Robinson be back in full form?

I'm not really excited about TE because I think no matter who wins we will be about the same.
Frank in SS  
lugnut : 7/12/2016 11:29 am : link
Probably not supposed to reveal real names here (not that you'd remember), but I was hired late 1995 as one of those gen'l assignment reporters, and you and I went downtown DC sometime after to watch Giants game together. Seem to recall Randolph Childress going on his crazy tear in ACC tourney around then too (I'm WFU grad). Yes, CD Pubs would have been interesting to anyone who had the "pleasure." So pleasant for one guy (BD) that he actually died at his desk there one morning. I think it still carries on (God knows how), with DK still attached.
How about the starting slot CB position?  
Dan in the Springs : 7/12/2016 11:47 am : link
I'm excited about that. I wonder if they'll try to move one of the big three (Jenkins, DRC, Apple) inside, or if they'll find a suitable nickel corner on the roster.

I'm guessing they won't want to put Apple there as a rookie and we'll see a heated competition between the big three for the outside spot.

With DRC's Giants future dimmest of the three at this point, they may choose to push him inside if nobody else shines in the slot.
LBers and safety probably won't be exciting  
5BowlsSoon : 7/12/2016 12:32 pm : link
Injuries will decide.
Lugnut  
Frank in Silver Spring : 7/12/2016 1:38 pm : link
OK and fair enough. I'll have to put on my thinking cap on this one. I'm still in touch with AL, DK and KS, if those initials mean anything to you. All are doing well, much better than BD for sure. I think CD still owns the building and now they rent it out to various small businesses. I think some newsletter chain overseas bought it out. DK is still doing on of the Funding pubs freelance.
Frank in SS  
lugnut : 7/12/2016 3:13 pm : link
I'm humiliated I left such a non-impression. Yes, pretty sure I know those initials. Ken popped into my head just last week for some God-only-knows reason. Glad to know they're well.
Lugnut  
Frank in Silver Spring : 7/12/2016 3:27 pm : link
Don't be upset (lol). It's pretty much my aging brain. I can tell you details from FedEx for the past few years without fail, but have trouble coming up with my kids' birthdays and wedding anniversary. At least I have my priorities straight, of course.
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