NFT: At least 3 officers dead in Baton Rouge shooting

In comment 13037362 AP in Halfmoon said:

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I posted a couple of times there but I have no recollection of that. Moving on........

Want me to bring them up? No problem...

This one was titled on comic relief...

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barilko Senior Member **** barilko Avatar Posts: 282 Nov 3, 2014 at 10:54pm QuotelikePost Options Post by barilko on Nov 3, 2014 at 10:54pm This helped: This game is on Tom Coughlin dep026 : 10:45 pm : link he should fucking apologize to every one of his fucking players.

This one was titled enjoying the game day thread

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barilko Senior Member **** barilko Avatar Posts: 282 Dec 8, 2013 at 5:34pm QuotelikePost Options Post by barilko on Dec 8, 2013 at 5:34pm Watching the game alone, doing some work and reading the game thread for comic relief to lessen the misery. What a bunch of fucking morons. Eli gets to the line with 15 seconds, dep claims it's 8 seconds. Accuracy was never Eli"s strength and he's not sharp today either. What's the deal with dep's "analysis" of Eli?

this was titled "dep"

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barilko Senior Member **** barilko Avatar Posts: 282 Sep 29, 2013 at 3:52pm QuotelikePost Options Post by barilko on Sep 29, 2013 at 3:52pm You're one of the worst football posters on BBI, stick to fantasy?

So your 282 posts is a little bit than time to time. Usually starting threads about me. Those were 3, I could find more, but I guess you get the point. You have fucking issues dude. Going to one site while Banned, and then posting about me on another board. Sad and pathetic.

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In comment 13037371 AP in Halfmoon said:

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Self reflecting is important. Maybe you can learn from this and realize you are sad pathetic bitch.

or something like that

about BLM.

In comment 13037270 dep026 said:

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should be fucking embarrassed and fired from CNN (even though we all know why he wont be). After being eviscarated by Clarke last night, he tries to rip him after his speech - and all of his fellow commentators are basically dismissing Lemon. What a schmuck.

Clarke and evisceration are irrelevant here. Lemon did no analysis and basically whined about the night before. Totally unprofessional.

Fair observation

and attempt to equal people standing against uncivil unfair and inhumane treatment is somehow racist in nature. Anyone being real and honest can see that their is an negative imbalance treat of blacks by law enforcement. But people taking a stand against it says other lives do not matter...there is no connection nor logic in that. If a person was being honest and real and truly felt ALL lives MATTERED then they would be saying yes all lives matter but there is an serious issue on how blacks are being killed at a rate that makes no sense at the hands of police. Are the cases where non-blacks are unjustly killed by police? Yes. However considering that we are a small portion of the population and most times unarmed and encountered from a bias stance ALL should be appalled and angry. However the rate frequency in which it is happening is no way justifiable! But the reality is there is a large segment are like those "thugs" ie niggers deserve it.

Blacks being killed by the police is a village being razed that needs help against the attacks. Saying well all villages matter ... yes they do however those villages are not being targeted and razed.

BLM is not anti-police they are anti-illegal killings by the police. The well what about black on black crime argument...is like saying to someone trying to get a cure for cancer ... what about the HIV virus?

end up with cancer.

I suppose that one might argue that if you cured AIDS, then there would be a concomitant reduction in the number of deaths due to cancer.

When a white cop shoots a black criminal...it turns out to be a justified shooting. A split second decision at worst. Most normal human beings understand this.

Instead of focusing on why so many young black men have these interactions with police and have lengthy criminal records, some falsely want to believe it is just a bunch of racist cops out there picking on black people...And that is where BLM loses most peoples attention.

Instead this false narrative has brought upon violence against cops. WHo would want that job...seriously..

P. Castile ... A. Sterling .... R. King .... etc

are all victims of people saying Black Live DO NOT Matter.

As I said "I feared for my life" is the it is ok calling card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW5rXN9c67M

In comment 13037684 PA Giant Fan said:

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When a white cop shoots a black criminal...it turns out to be a justified shooting. A split second decision at worst. Most normal human beings understand this. Instead of focusing on why so many young black men have these interactions with police and have lengthy criminal records, some falsely want to believe it is just a bunch of racist cops out there picking on black people...And that is where BLM loses most peoples attention. Instead this false narrative has brought upon violence against cops. Who would want that job...seriously..

It happens more than you realize ... the issue is a lot of times there are no witnesses and no video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp0On3_CQKQ

Look people want to pretend the racist nature and mentality country is far and removed but that is far from true. http://www.ushistory.org/more/timeline.htm
My father not grandfather or great grand father ... My father could not eat at certain places ... use certain water fountains.

Are all cops racist? No. However more are then a lot of people are willing to admit. Also the system is still very much racist. As noted above about the example given about the Jewish riot.

We should forget about slavery but remember the Holocaust...Remember 9/11 but pretend the terrorist attack on Black Wall Street never happened. http://www.blackwallstreet.freeservers.com/The%20Story.htm

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/videos/1091431710895746/

In comment 13037678 MotownGIANTS said:

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BLM is not anti-police they are anti-illegal killings by the police.

I don't see how you can reconcile that statement with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws

Beyond that, the atrocity in Tulsa happened 95 years ago. Yes, it was an atrocity, but fortunately we've come far enough so that would never take place today. And it wasn't forgotten. At least when I was in college (yes, later than 1921) it was included in a 20th century American History course I took. And as bad as it was, the death toll was a small fraction of the 6 million that the Holocaust took.

Finally, Steve King made a statement that was even more ignorant than it was racist. Yet he represents whites no more than Cynthia McKinney did blacks when she said Bush was in on 911.

I think I know you well enough to know that you aren't suggesting that anything under 6mill deaths is an acceptable number. Yet, I'm not sure what else that paragraph could mean.

In comment 13038003 Modus Operandi said:

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I think I know you well enough to know that you aren't suggesting that anything under 6mill deaths is an acceptable number. Yet, I'm not sure what else that paragraph could mean.

Totally unacceptable, but a death toll in the hundreds is on a completely different scale than 6 million.

How you totally ignored the FACT that I linked the holocaust to slavery in comparison .... and then came with we moved so far that it will never happen again ...

I guess like the police brutality during the 1st wave of the jim crow laws?

Because if you are not really paying attention this is the beginning of the 2nd wave.

Its a media driven crapfest. 2x more whites have been killed by cops then blacks. If it was about race the numbers would tell a different story. And almost every time the killing was justified or at minimum a split second decision. Thanks goodness for stats and not fairy tales

As you would suspect. When blacks commit less violent crime and have less encounters with police, fewer will be killed by police. And just the same. If whites commit less violent crime, they will see the same happen.

In comment 13038106 PA Giant Fan said:

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Its a media driven crapfest. 2x more whites have been killed by cops then blacks. If it was about race the numbers would tell a different story. And almost every time the killing was justified or at minimum a split second decision. Thanks goodness for stats and not fairy tales

That may be true, but why are unarmed black men killed at 5x the rate as unarmed white men?

In comment 13038058 MotownGIANTS said:

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How you totally ignored the FACT that I linked the holocaust to slavery in comparison .... and then came with we moved so far that it will never happen again ... I guess like the police brutality during the 1st wave of the jim crow laws? Because if you are not really paying attention this is the beginning of the 2nd wave.

Oh, over the centuries the slave trade could clearly be classified as a holocaust. However, everybody got into that act, not just whites. And it will never happen again (IMHO, if you like). What's different about the Holocaust is that a) It happened more recently and b) It happened predominantly in a 5 year period. No five years in the slave trade could match 1941-45.

Also interesting is your failure to acknowledge my link.

As far as a purported second wave I don't see it. Not that I see everything being peachy keen either. But that's just as much a prediction of the future as your comment. We'll see who's right.

In comment 13037995 njm said:

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In comment 13037678 MotownGIANTS said: Quote: BLM is not anti-police they are anti-illegal killings by the police. I don't see how you can reconcile that statement with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws

It's pretty easy to reconcile that statement when you consider that the vast majority of BLM protestors aren't chanting things like that. I wouldn't look at one video on YouTube and assume that this is what the movement is about.

That stat is nonsense. Here are numbers for 2015 in link below
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In comment 13038147 PA Giant Fan said:

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That stat is nonsense. Here are numbers for 2015 in link below Link - ( New Window )

How about a more reputable news source?
The Guardian has numbers for all of 2015 and 2016 so far - ( New Window )

so you are saying 400+ yrs of slaves then decades of systematic racism that ALLOWED people to be murdered pales in comparison ... and mind you the 1940s - 1960s where after the holocaust you know when we were still be lynched and NO one was punished for it.

Then you have the 70s & 80s were let where the govt decided to use drugs to destroy the community.

SMH ... The holocuast was more recent.

When was it Jewish people where killed for knowing how to read? Stripped of religion language culture etc?

In comment 13038058 MotownGIANTS said:

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How you totally ignored the FACT that I linked the holocaust to slavery in comparison .... and then came with we moved so far that it will never happen again ... I guess like the police brutality during the 1st wave of the jim crow laws? Because if you are not really paying attention this is the beginning of the 2nd wave.

The second wave of what? Jim Crow? What the hell are you babbling about?

In comment 13038147 PA Giant Fan said:

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That stat is nonsense. Here are numbers for 2015 in link below Link - ( New Window )

You do realize that your own link doesn't even support your own narrative on this thread?

Try running the math and you'll arrive to where we are.

it will never happen again

https://www.facebook.com/SteveHarveytv/videos/1174405859284049/

own admisssion

50 to 60 cases (that is 1 single officer) .... but yea we have come soooo far ....

Jim Crow was a system of laws that codified discrimination. That link isn't remotely the same thing.

Concealed weapon laws

Stand your ground laws


Are not EQUALLY applied! How the JUDICIAL SYSTEM handles cases of the same nature and level are not equal for blacks/hispanics as it is for whites. The 2nd wave is beginning.

In comment 13037684 PA Giant Fan said:

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Instead this false narrative has brought upon violence against cops. WHo would want that job...seriously..

I don't believe BLM played much of a role in either shooting. The Baton Rogue shooter didn't support BLM, he was a lunatic who wanted to see violence.

In comment 13038195 Modus Operandi said:

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In comment 13038147 PA Giant Fan said: Quote: That stat is nonsense. Here are numbers for 2015 in link below Link - ( New Window ) You do realize that your own link doesn't even support your own narrative on this thread? Try running the math and you'll arrive to where we are.

I never provided a link, but the data I shared is aggregated from the Census, and FBI crime reports. But I guess the information isn't 'good enough'.

My post was directed at PA Giants fan, who unknowingly posted a link to an article that debunks his entire arguement on this thread - which is that black men aren't killed at a higher rate than white men.

I was suggesting he do the math.

My apologies for misreading your response.

I ignored the post but was curious where he heard that

I'm sure if police officers said "please" and "thank you" while shoving a plunger up someone's anus or killing an unarmed man, it would solve a lot of these issues. Politeness goes a long way.

In comment 13038246 AP in Halfmoon said:

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In comment 13037684 PA Giant Fan said: Quote: Instead this false narrative has brought upon violence against cops. WHo would want that job...seriously.. I don't believe BLM played much of a role in either shooting. The Baton Rogue shooter didn't support BLM, he was a lunatic who wanted to see violence.

There's a difference between saying BLM is anti-cop and saying they were involved in the Baton Rouge killings

who uses circular logic and leans on confirmation bias to 'prove' a point. He's not worth engaging at all. Eric and the mods should be embarrassed for allowing this clown to post on here for years. I would wager to bet that this type of shit drove off good posters like GMANinDC.

In comment 13038282 Modus Operandi said:

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I'm sure if police officers said "please" and "thank you" while shoving a plunger up someone's anus or killing an unarmed man, it would solve a lot of these issues. Politeness goes a long way.

And it might have knocked a year or two off Volpe's 30 year sentence without the possibility of parole.

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In comment 13038298 njm said:

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In comment 13038282 Modus Operandi said: Quote: I'm sure if police officers said "please" and "thank you" while shoving a plunger up someone's anus or killing an unarmed man, it would solve a lot of these issues. Politeness goes a long way. And it might have knocked a year or two off Volpe's 30 year sentence without the possibility of parole.

And to think, they successfully prosecuted Volpe despite the blue wall of silence. Or is that a myth?

I said it parallels violent crime.

Whites are killed by police 2:1. If you had basic reading skills you would stop pretending the real issue is racism by cops

"According to the Guardian’s tally, of the approximately 1001 people killed by police this year in America, 502 were white, 250 were black, 163 were Hispanic/Latino, 18 were Asian/Pacific Islander, 13 were American Indian, and 54 were other/unknown."

Now tell me what % of homicides are done by blacks?

It is simple. Blacks have more interactions with Police per capita then whites. Vastly so.

If you commit more crime, you will have more negative interactions with police. Its simple and not some racist cop thing. You should really be asking yourself why you want to believe against the statistics.

I see nothing wrong with peaceful protests against unfair treatment by police. This is America not China. I also believe BLM has a responsibility to emphasize nonviolence as many are.

and the whole thing falls apart and loses the average persons interest.

If you commit half of the homicides. Or now about 1/3.

Lets look at 2013 for example

" In 2013, black criminals committed 38% of the murders. Whites accounted for just 31 percent."

Now what % by race would you expect to have violent interactions with the police just based off of those numbers? Its freaking basic simple shit. What is scary is that there is no solution based on your beliefs. Except to leave the areas and no longer patrol violent neighborhoods.

Real solutions involve poverty, drugs and drug laws, education, criminal just system etc...But you guys are focused on a bogeyman of racist cops

In comment 13038384 AP in Halfmoon said:

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I see nothing wrong with peaceful protests against unfair treatment by police. This is America not China. I also believe BLM has a responsibility to emphasize nonviolence as many are.

When have I advocated for or suggested a ban on peaceful protest? They can even say "pigs in a blanket, fry'em like bacon." That just makes them anti-cop, and not just cops who violate the law.

In comment 13038389 PA Giant Fan said:

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and the whole thing falls apart and loses the average persons interest. If you commit half of the homicides. Or now about 1/3. Lets look at 2013 for example " In 2013, black criminals committed 38% of the murders. Whites accounted for just 31 percent." Now what % by race would you expect to have violent interactions with the police just based off of those numbers? Its freaking basic simple shit. What is scary is that there is no solution based on your beliefs. Except to leave the areas and no longer patrol violent neighborhoods. Real solutions involve poverty, drugs and drug laws, education, criminal just system etc...But you guys are focused on a bogeyman of racist cops

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. You cite statistics yet refuse to delve that extra bit deeper because it'll invalidate your narrative.

Well, I refuse to do the math for you, since it'll likely either be ignored or brushed away with gobbley good like "they should be more polite".

I'll refrain from engaging you further on the topic.

Here's a simple question.

Research shows blacks and whites smoke pot at roughly the same rate. Why are blacks 5 times more likely to be incarcerated for pot?