NFT: GoT- Season 7 Confirmed- Only 7 Episodes

or 7 episodes for the remainder of the show? I'm guessing the former. Either way, what a clusterfuck.

On the TV show, it was mentioned several times that Dorne was the only location in the 7 kingdom's that was able to resist Aegon's invasion and his 3 dragons.

Curious if the books mentioned how Dorne did this? Wouldn't the dragons be able to fly overhead on the Dornish capital\castle of Sunspear and just burn everything down? Was there something that Dorne did to prevent this?

A shortened season was first mentioned by the showrunners as early as season 5 and much more prominently at the start of this season. This didn't even cause any contract problems with the cast as HBO now has them all under contract through the end. And the delayed start time is because they want to shoot in Iceland in January, to depict real life winter elements instead of fake snow or CGI.

In comment 13036892 moespree said:

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A shortened season was first mentioned by the showrunners as early as season 5 and much more prominently at the start of this season. This didn't even cause any contract problems with the cast as HBO now has them all under contract through the end. And the delayed start time is because they want to shoot in Iceland in January, to depict real life winter elements instead of fake snow or CGI.

I don't care about the delays. I'm more talking about where we are in the series and what's left, and I think far too much fan fiction has crept into the show.

In comment 13036884 UConn4523 said:

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or 7 episodes for the remainder of the show? I'm guessing the former. Either way, what a clusterfuck.

7 episodes next season...They are saying about 13-15 hours left total. So 7 hours next season leaves 6-8 for the final season to be right in that range. I would hope for 7 episodes in the finale as well but the actual series finale would be a 2 hour event.

and the final season will only have 6.

I'm left watching because I might as well finish it at this point, rather than because I just can't wait to see what happens.

I think 13 episodes makes sense.

UConn4523 said:

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I don't care about the delays. I'm more talking about where we are in the series and what's left

I think they have plenty of time to tell what remains story wise and not rush things.

My guess for season seven will be the story breaks down to two main story-lines. First Euron and Cersi join forces against Dany's incoming invasion and hostile takeover of Kings Landing. Pretty sure by the end of that season, Cersi is dead and Dany is finally sitting on the Iron Throne. Second part of the story-line will be up North, where I think Littlefinger will run some sort of plot to take control of the North. Majority of his plans were based on securing that northern army to march down on Kings Landing. Also pretty sure by the end of the season, the White Walkers will be able to take down the magically re-enforced wall and start invading into the South. I expect the final scene being the Night King on his horse marching towards Winterfell.

Then for the final season, Jon Snow (or is it Stark now) leading his northern army down south to get reinforcements for this final major fight to end the series. It will be at this point Jon gets introduced to Dany and they have to find a common ground to work together for the good of the kingdom. My guess the key player here will be Tyrion, as he had a good relationship with Jon Snow in season one and actually saved his life once when Jon first joined the Night's Watch.

In comment 13036906 Jay on the Island said:

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and the final season will only have 6.

If 6 episodes is the final season, than the 7th episode is in episode 6.

Thus the 2 hours finale..

In comment 13036887 NYG27 said:

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On the TV show, it was mentioned several times that Dorne was the only location in the 7 kingdom's that was able to resist Aegon's invasion and his 3 dragons. Curious if the books mentioned how Dorne did this? Wouldn't the dragons be able to fly overhead on the Dornish capital\castle of Sunspear and just burn everything down? Was there something that Dorne did to prevent this?

I can't remember where I read it, but I think Dorne was basically fighting guerrilla warfare and wore them down.

story left as they want at this point. They can zip through it like they did in season 6 or take their time and drag it out, which is what it would be now that they have broken their own cadence.

I'm obviously down on the show and have been for some time, but my vote would be to have this thing over and done with in 2017 whether its 7 episodes or all 13. They are now bending the fans over because they can, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if this somehow pushed into late 2018+.

we see Winds of Winter this year but I'm not holding my breath

In comment 13036920 Andy in Halifax said:

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I think 13 episodes makes sense.

Yeah, especially with a location convergence. Sansa and Jon together, Dany with Tyrion, Theon, and others. Dat season finale killed off 40% of the minor plotlines.

The story expanded and is now contracting.

I almost wish I didn't. That show is visual crack and morphine rolled into a 100 year old scotch dipped blunt of awesome. But I need more. And now it's only 7 fucking episodes? Fuck off.

In comment 13036974 djm said:

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I almost wish I didn't. That show is visual crack and morphine rolled into a 100 year old scotch dipped blunt of awesome. But I need more. And now it's only 7 fucking episodes? Fuck off.

Every year I rewatch the whole series right before the new series starts. Except this year I watched just the last few seasons.

Do a re-watch.

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I can't remember where I read it, but I think Dorne was basically fighting guerrilla warfare and wore them down.

Yup: a decade of guerrilla warfare, punctuated by a few key clashes, including one at Hellholt where the Dornishmen showed they could deal with dragons by shooting down Meraxes, with Queen Rhaenys aboard. Much later, another Targaryen King briefly conquered Dorne, then lost it, before an alliance was finally cemented by marriage.

In comment 13036976 Deej said:

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In comment 13036974 djm said: Quote: I almost wish I didn't. That show is visual crack and morphine rolled into a 100 year old scotch dipped blunt of awesome. But I need more. And now it's only 7 fucking episodes? Fuck off. Every year I rewatch the whole series right before the new series starts. Except this year I watched just the last few seasons. Do a re-watch.

I plan to. I'm going to re-watch season 1

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In comment 13036974 djm said: Quote: I almost wish I didn't. That show is visual crack and morphine rolled into a 100 year old scotch dipped blunt of awesome. But I need more. And now it's only 7 fucking episodes? Fuck off. Every year I rewatch the whole series right before the new series starts. Except this year I watched just the last few seasons. Do a re-watch.

I re-read the books in between seasons. Ok, that's not true, but if and when the winds of winter comes out I plan to re-read them before it.

So you mean they are doing exactly what they've said they were going to do for months? Shocker.

Has their final season split these days. Considering fat ass isn't close to finishing his books, GOT is going to be dragged out regardless. The writers have also said many times the original plan was to do 7 seasons for 7 books. If you look at it that way, we should be kissing HBO's feet that they are giving us an "extra" 3-5 hours.

To stretch it out

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To stretch it out

I'd be down. Keep it going forever. Lol

the Hedge Knight, or something like that - three short stories merged into one short novel - I read it, forget the name, it has part of the story of Aegon.

do final split seasons now doesn't mean fans should accept it. It's almost always a bad decision and dilutes the quality of what you are watching. I expect nothing less at this point from Beinoff and Weiss, and like I said earlier, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they stretch this out beyond the end of 2018.

I smell a spring 2019 2 hour finale finale.

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To stretch it out

I have been saying this for a while. I would love to see either a series of a movie prequel that focuses on the mad king, Rhaegar, and the rebellion. That would be awesome.

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I almost wish I didn't. That show is visual crack and morphine rolled into a 100 year old scotch dipped blunt of awesome. But I need more. And now it's only 7 fucking episodes? Fuck off.

No, there's 13 more episodes, more than originally planned. This is good news.

In comment 13037121 pjcas18 said:

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the Hedge Knight, or something like that - three short stories merged into one short novel - I read it, forget the name, it has part of the story of Aegon.

The Dunk and Egg novellas. They take place maybe 100 years in the past of this world. The first is The Hedge Knight, the second is The Sworn Sword, the third is The Mystery Knight. If you really love the world of A Song of Ice and Fire, then this furthers the immersion experience of the world by giving life to events or characters that were hinted at in the books. I've read that GRRM plans to do as much as 12 of these.

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In comment 13037121 pjcas18 said: Quote: the Hedge Knight, or something like that - three short stories merged into one short novel - I read it, forget the name, it has part of the story of Aegon. The Dunk and Egg novellas. They take place maybe 100 years in the past of this world. The first is The Hedge Knight, the second is The Sworn Sword, the third is The Mystery Knight. If you really love the world of A Song of Ice and Fire, then this furthers the immersion experience of the world by giving life to events or characters that were hinted at in the books. I've read that GRRM plans to do as much as 12 of these.

yeah, they were great, all three were combined into one book called A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

I did read Martin said he stopped all "other" projects so he can finish Winds of Winter.

reading the novels. I'm getting very pissed about the Winds of Winter. I saw a rumor today saying he may release a Dreams of Spring at the same time.

The final battle scene between the White Walkers and Dany's Dragons will be Epic. Song of Fire and Ice. Bring it.

In comment 13037146 UConn4523 said:

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do final split seasons now doesn't mean fans should accept it. It's almost always a bad decision and dilutes the quality of what you are watching. I expect nothing less at this point from Beinoff and Weiss, and like I said earlier, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they stretch this out beyond the end of 2018. I smell a spring 2019 2 hour finale finale.

Absolutely zero chance of that happening and once again you are off on an island by yourself when it comes to GOT.

Big money is the influence here, Martin increases market for his final books and HBO makes more with less episodes as production costs are insanely high and will be worse with the battles go come.

Win win for them all.

I'm halfway through season 2. The books, especially the audio version, are better but it's cool to see the characters come to life. The casting was very well done.

In comment 13037240 AP in Halfmoon said:

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reading the novels. I'm getting very pissed about the Winds of Winter. I saw a rumor today saying he may release a Dreams of Spring at the same time.

Yes there is this rumor that is starting to emerge. It stems from his New Years day post. He mentioned in that post he met with his publishers last summer 2015 and told them he was confident he could gets Winds out in October 2015. He obviously didn't. But the thing that has caught people's attention is if he thought he could gets Winds out last summer by October 2015....then why is it still not out? That doesn't add up. He obviously was far enough along last summer that he thought he could finish by October. So it's quite odd it still isn't out, almost a year later.

Personally, I really don't think he's going to release both at the same time, but if he did, and beat the show to the end, he go from being mocked to brilliant overnight. It'd be an incredible creative and business move by him. But I'll believe it when I see it.

To release one now and the Winds at Christmas even if it's done. The rumor site I was reading thought 2024 was more likely.

We've seen that Bran not only has the ability to travel back and forward in time but that he can also manipulate time as well. Ned at the Tower of Joy heard Bran call for him, Hodor had the seizure that crippled him when Bran couldn't control his powers when he visited the past.

Then we saw the Night King gain the ability to attach the Three Eyed Raven by simply touching Bran in another vision Bran couldn't control.

So that leads us to consider exactly how powerful can Bran become as the new Three Eyed Raven? Could he go back in time to effect the events that are currently occurring?

it would be pretty pointless for Bran to be that powerful. Would take away from basically everything we've read or watched thus far.

In comment 13037254 JerebilJ said:

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The final battle scene between the White Walkers and Dany's Dragons will be Epic. Song of Fire and Ice. Bring it.

#TeamWhiteWalkers

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it would be pretty pointless for Bran to be that powerful. Would take away from basically everything we've read or watched thus far.

There must be a bigger reason to showcase that Bran can influence the past in his visions besides Hodor, Night King and having Ned turn around at the Tower of Joy. They might be setting up his abilities for bigger reveals in season 7 or 8.

Initially I thought Bran's role in the final battle would be to warg into one of Dany's three dragons. But I now think all three dragons will be rode by Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion.

So what will Bran's role be in the final season? Will it be revealed that he was able to travel back in time and actually influenced the Stark relative Bran the Builder a thousand years ago to build the wall? Did he travel back in time and was actually the one whispering to the Mad King that lead him to be crazy. Maybe Bran's plan was the influence the Mad King to stockpile wild fire at Kings Landing to be used against the white walkers in the final battle. Instead of influencing and communicating with the Mad King, instead Bran just drove him crazy with visions of White Walkers which is why he kept on saying "Burn them All" over and over again until Jaime killed him. Maybe the Mad King kept on saying Burn them All was meant for the White Walkers instead of Tywin Lannister's forces that were invading Kings Landing at Roberts Rebellion.

or involvement will be but if its to alter time, than the show/story has and will jump the shark, IMO. It would be awful for him to be that powerful and I'm hoping there are severe limitations in his abilities.

I'm also on Team White Walkers. I want the realm to be a barren wasteland, no interest in a happy ending.

No wonder you hate the show so much.

there's too many "filler" episodes now...I hate that shit

You wait all week and nothing really happens....7 episodes should reduce a lot of the fluff

In comment 13038093 Giantology said:

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No wonder you hate the show so much.

I don't hate the show, just displeased with the direction they took and i'm rooting for evil to prevail at this point.

When Tyrion is on the ship during the storm. "As waves tossed the ship, it groaned like a fat old man trying to shit"

go back and influence past events, if I were him the list would begin with when he walked in on Jamie and Cersei.

then he'd have his legs back and only then would I (if I were him) start monkeying around with other historical events.

Sure, it's a little selfish, but tough shit.

that takes away from the story. His paralysis has been a big part of the story. I think he has a different destiny where he won't need to walk.

That Dany is not the Ultimate Villain? She is from inbred ancestry that has Madness in her DNA. She is coming as a Conqueror not a liberator, with 50,000 warriors and 3 Dragons. Unleashing her Horny Dothraki horde on Dorne and the rest of Westoros should be a fun ride to watch.