The #1 area our offense needs to truly improve in is redzone offense, scoring TD's when inside the 20 yard line.
That means we must run better and I believe we will. FB Johnson is a huge addition to this offense and I also believe our TE's will be much improved. Donnell is a big body and Tye should be improved.
I also wonder if our WR play will be improved in the redzone as well. This is year #3 in this offense; Cruz is returning; maybe Perkins and Williams showing redzone short yardage prowess.
As long as our starting OL stays healthy and develops continuity through camp we will be good enough as far as blocking goes. It is a damn shame we didn't get a stud RT in UFA but I guess you can't have everything. I have to believe with coach Solari the entire OL will be improved.
Also, I like the fact that RB Vereen is also year #2 in this offense as I see him being a redzone threat as well. I'm talking catching the ball at the 10 yard line and possibly juking his way in. I look forward to July 29 and the first day of training camp.
Eli mentioned two young WRs stepping up as Shepard, Â
who's impressed everyone obviously, and Geremy Davis. Again Davis.
Here's Davis physical combine profile vs Randle's.
Davis......Randle
Height 6'2" vs 6'3"
Weight 216 vs 210
Arm length 32.25" vs 33.0"
Hands 9.5 vs 9.5
40 yard dash 4.49* vs 4.55
Bench 23 vs 15
Vert jump 36.5" vs 31.0 "
Broad jump 124" vs 121"
3 cone 6.86 vs 6.99
Short shuttle 4.18 vs 4.36
60 yard shuttle 11.28 vs 11.78
* Indicates pro day time, all other values for both from NFL combine. Davis had a hamstring issue and elected not to run the 40 at the combine.
All the above tells me one of 2 things. Either Davis 1) is actually a more explosive athlete than Randle, or 2) he prepared himself more seriously for the combine than Randle did - ie he is more dedicated and a harder worker. The big difference in their 60 yard shuttle times speaks to Davis's superior conditioning.
I would be happy with 1 or 2. It's also worth noting that with the additional 6# on his almost identical frame Davis's speed, agility drills, and leaping tests are even more impressive.
The two really good things on Davis's college tape are his hands and the way he fights for contested balls, something we know Randle was inconsistent doing.
I am not holding my breath on Davis, but boy it would be nice if he pans out. Especially as it would mean getting production from deep in the draft, something the Giants have missed since drafting Ahmad Bradshaw.
I'm encouraged Eli mentioned him specifically as having "a nice Spring." When he spoke highly of Davis "knowing where he should be" or what he should do in his routes, it was almost a between the lines poke at Randle... if you want to read into it.
who's impressed everyone obviously, and Geremy Davis. Again Davis.
Here's Davis physical combine profile vs Randle's.
Davis......Randle
Height 6'2" vs 6'3"
Weight 216 vs 210
Arm length 32.25" vs 33.0"
Hands 9.5 vs 9.5
40 yard dash 4.49* vs 4.55
Bench 23 vs 15
Vert jump 36.5" vs 31.0 "
Broad jump 124" vs 121"
3 cone 6.86 vs 6.99
Short shuttle 4.18 vs 4.36
60 yard shuttle 11.28 vs 11.78
* Indicates pro day time, all other values for both from NFL combine. Davis had a hamstring issue and elected not to run the 40 at the combine.
All the above tells me one of 2 things. Either Davis 1) is actually a more explosive athlete than Randle, or 2) he prepared himself more seriously for the combine than Randle did - ie he is more dedicated and a harder worker. The big difference in their 60 yard shuttle times speaks to Davis's superior conditioning.
I would be happy with 1 or 2. It's also worth noting that with the additional 6# on his almost identical frame Davis's speed, agility drills, and leaping tests are even more impressive.
The two really good things on Davis's college tape are his hands and the way he fights for contested balls, something we know Randle was inconsistent doing.
I am not holding my breath on Davis, but boy it would be nice if he pans out. Especially as it would mean getting production from deep in the draft, something the Giants have missed since drafting Ahmad Bradshaw.
I'm encouraged Eli mentioned him specifically as having "a nice Spring." When he spoke highly of Davis "knowing where he should be" or what he should do in his routes, it was almost a between the lines poke at Randle... if you want to read into it.
Interesting analysis and comparison. However, Davis is not nearly as an accomplished player coming out of college as Randle was. Randle's problem had to have been a combination of attitude and laziness in study. Randle clearly cost Eli some serious interceptions over his years, esp last year. You could see Eli's face on some of those throws towards Randle which were picked off.
My hope for Davis is that he becomes a superb redzone guy, a big body who runs the right route and uses his size to bring the ball in. That would be nice. If he does more well that is just a plus.
But it is good to hear Eli praise a rookie like Shepherd and a second year wideout like Davis. That is good news.
are his short throws to his backs....sometimes they are whistled at their heads, thrown behind them, way outside,at their feet, etc.....if the back has to wait for the ball or reach for a poor thrown pass, instead of catching it in stride, this gives the defense the extra time to close in on the play.....
I love Eli, but sometimes he is more accurate at 50 yards than he is a 5 yards....
are his short throws to his backs....sometimes they are whistled at their heads, thrown behind them, way outside,at their feet, etc.....if the back has to wait for the ball or reach for a poor thrown pass, instead of catching it in stride, this gives the defense the extra time to close in on the play.....
I love Eli, but sometimes he is more accurate at 50 yards than he is a 5 yards....
He isn't Brady when it comes to the 5 yard accuracy but he is still better than most.
I am looking forward to how much we will use Vereen this year as compared to last. I think with OBJ; a healthy Cruz; and, a shifty rookie in Shepherd out there drawing coverages it should be "easy" for a guy like Vereen to get open. And Vereen being in there doesn't guarantee a pass either as he can run. Vereen isn't a great runner but he can run.
are his short throws to his backs....sometimes they are whistled at their heads, thrown behind them, way outside,at their feet, etc.....if the back has to wait for the ball or reach for a poor thrown pass, instead of catching it in stride, this gives the defense the extra time to close in on the play.....
I love Eli, but sometimes he is more accurate at 50 yards than he is a 5 yards....
You are such a fucking drag. You must be a hoot in party with.
Someone there saw him as developmental and needing to work on his routes.
The same source compliments Davis on his route running but called him slow and lacking ability to separate.
Randle was not NFL ready except in Jerry Reese's fantasies.
I stand corrected. As for Davis lack of separation speed, I recall reading that about him when he was drafted. We'll see how he does this camp. That is all we can do at this pont.
It is hugely important, especially if we are to see improved run game play. I love FB Johnson and what he adds. I love coach Solari for our OL. I believe our TE blocking will be improved due to experiencce. And I think our offense is in year #3 so there shouldn't be as much "thinking" aobut who to block.
Jeez, why don't you just give away the whole playbook, Eli. Â
In the system is huge. Eli recently said they know the offense cold to the point they can get into any play at any time. They did not have that ability before-huge w Eli at the helm
In the system is huge. Eli recently said they know the offense cold to the point they can get into any play at any time. They did not have that ability before-huge w Eli at the helm
Not just Eli, but the whole team, at least everyone that has been here 3 years, is ready to rock n roll at this point. But yes, Eli is the "key" guy to know the offense of course.
I also like the fact that our OL is coming back "in tact" from last year, and now also with coach Solari. Yes, I'd like to upgrade Jerry and Newhouse especially for run blocking but we couldn't make it happen this off-season. So all we can do is hope that Newhouse and Jerry improve just a bit at least with another year of experience and coach Solari's leadeership.
Talent level at draft time was night and day compared to Davis why he never took the next step from his rookie year only the gods know. He seemed to lack only big play speed but was used quite a bit on deep routes. He never seemed to be on the same page with Eli once again only the gods know for sure who's fault in most cases. For a guy his size one should say he played soft or had to fire in his game or WR moxie.
This is a good year for us to find out much about Randle and Davis one has moved on the other is in his second year looking to take that next step the other never did. Davis is in a much better situation he is not being asked to be the second WR he is being asked to be a solid and consisten third option if Cruz can't return to form.
Talent level at draft time was night and day compared to Davis why he never took the next step from his rookie year only the gods know. He seemed to lack only big play speed but was used quite a bit on deep routes. He never seemed to be on the same page with Eli once again only the gods know for sure who's fault in most cases. For a guy his size one should say he played soft or had to fire in his game or WR moxie.
This is a good year for us to find out much about Randle and Davis one has moved on the other is in his second year looking to take that next step the other never did. Davis is in a much better situation he is not being asked to be the second WR he is being asked to be a solid and consisten third option if Cruz can't return to form.
OK I'll take your word for it that Randle was a far superior draft prospect coming out (although I read somewhere that Davis's senior year was clouded by a leg injury and poor QB play) but I am not sure Randle's failure to take the next step was a mystery to all but the gods...
He simply wasn't dedicated enough. And I have a very hard time wondering if his lack of connection to what Eli saw on the field was a question, as to whose fault it was.
Eli, even in Gilbride's complex route adjusted system, managed to have great results with a plethora of receivers: Smith, Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, Boss.
And both Nicks and Manningham had horrible Wonderlic scores of 11 and 7, IIRC, so as difficult as KG's system was, it clearly could be mastered by WRs with less than stellar intellects.
I never thought Randle was dumb, FWIW. To my ears and eyes he came off much better in interviews than Nicks or Manningham ever did...
The only possibility left, as Sherlock Holmes would deduce after eliminating the impossible, was that Randle didn't care enough and failed to work hard enough in his playbook. And for two years he played in Mac's supposedly simpler timing based system.
What struck me most odd about his failure to develop was that he showed effort blocking, a trait many WRs lack.
As you wrote, we'll learn a lot this year, year 2 for Davis. Let's hope for the best.
Talent level at draft time was night and day compared to Davis why he never took the next step from his rookie year only the gods know. He seemed to lack only big play speed but was used quite a bit on deep routes. He never seemed to be on the same page with Eli once again only the gods know for sure who's fault in most cases. For a guy his size one should say he played soft or had to fire in his game or WR moxie.
This is a good year for us to find out much about Randle and Davis one has moved on the other is in his second year looking to take that next step the other never did. Davis is in a much better situation he is not being asked to be the second WR he is being asked to be a solid and consisten third option if Cruz can't return to form.
OK I'll take your word for it that Randle was a far superior draft prospect coming out (although I read somewhere that Davis's senior year was clouded by a leg injury and poor QB play) but I am not sure Randle's failure to take the next step was a mystery to all but the gods...
He simply wasn't dedicated enough. And I have a very hard time wondering if his lack of connection to what Eli saw on the field was a question, as to whose fault it was.
Eli, even in Gilbride's complex route adjusted system, managed to have great results with a plethora of receivers: Smith, Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, Boss.
And both Nicks and Manningham had horrible Wonderlic scores of 11 and 7, IIRC, so as difficult as KG's system was, it clearly could be mastered by WRs with less than stellar intellects.
I never thought Randle was dumb, FWIW. To my ears and eyes he came off much better in interviews than Nicks or Manningham ever did...
The only possibility left, as Sherlock Holmes would deduce after eliminating the impossible, was that Randle didn't care enough and failed to work hard enough in his playbook. And for two years he played in Mac's supposedly simpler timing based system.
What struck me most odd about his failure to develop was that he showed effort blocking, a trait many WRs lack.
As you wrote, we'll learn a lot this year, year 2 for Davis. Let's hope for the best.
I think it is clear WR R. Randle wasn't as dedicated as he needed to be and it showed on the field with his route running. You could see on Eli's face on some of those interceptions that Randle clearly didn't do what he was supposed to do and BOOM.
The most likely reason Randle wasn't pursued despite our limits at wideout was his attitude. it was just time to move on. And maybe Reuben Randle does develop just elsewhere. Sometimes a young guy needs to have his ass kicked and clearly his was a bit by Giants.
Normally I would wish any former Giant to do well. Â
The day you say something positive about Eli will be the first time you ever said anything intelligent.
And the truth according to dep comes out. It is impossible to criticize Eli intelligently. Thanks for admitting your bias!
And please point out when he ever has pointed out Eli's flaws positively and talked about an intelligent level? I know finding an intelligent conversation may be hard for you, considering how fucking stupid you are..... but I will give you some time to do so.
His history of bashing Eli (much like your history of being a giant cunt), is just nauseating at this point. It's impossible to have a conversation regarding Eli on this board because there are jokes like him, who is actually using his salary as means of demeaning him. Yeah, very intelligent.
Also to note.... Eli has always been the first one to criticize his own play when he has struggled. So his point, much like your existence, is pretty worthless. But continue you on your crusade of whatever you do on this board. Just as long as you know the more you post, the more you will disappoint. Much like you have disappointed your parents throughout your life.
Anyone can see that if the D comes around, Cruz comes back, and Shepard is as advertised, and the OL isn't a total shitstorm, the Giants will be in the hunt this year.
You waste a lot of good energy defending E against nonsense.
Anyone can see that if the D comes around, Cruz comes back, and Shepard is as advertised, and the OL isn't a total shitstorm, the Giants will be in the hunt this year.
You waste a lot of good energy defending E against nonsense.
Good point. This is more of a shitting on radar than defending Eli. I am starting to learn he doesnt need a defense from fans anymore. I think even some of his biggest naysayers and people who have hit on him in the past, are seeing the light. There will always be some naysayers though.
Back on topic, as I didnt watch the video - the one area in which I want to see him play better is inside the 20. He missed a few TDs last year and threw a few too many INTs for my liking. I think some of it was forcing to OBJ, some were the likes of Randle not executing. But a more efficient QB in the red zone could to a lot more points. We left a lot of points on the board last year.
Anyone can see that if the D comes around, Cruz comes back, and Shepard is as advertised, and the OL isn't a total shitstorm, the Giants will be in the hunt this year.
You waste a lot of good energy defending E against nonsense.
Good point. This is more of a shitting on radar than defending Eli. I am starting to learn he doesnt need a defense from fans anymore. I think even some of his biggest naysayers and people who have hit on him in the past, are seeing the light. There will always be some naysayers though.
Back on topic, as I didnt watch the video - the one area in which I want to see him play better is inside the 20. He missed a few TDs last year and threw a few too many INTs for my liking. I think some of it was forcing to OBJ, some were the likes of Randle not executing. But a more efficient QB in the red zone could to a lot more points. We left a lot of points on the board last year.
Redzone offense was one of the key offensive "holes" that I listed on another thread. Outside of OBJ, we lack a redzone playmaker. Donnell was hurt; Tye was learning; Randle was so so; and we had no power run game.
This year, assuming we stay healthy, with the addition of FB Johnson we should run much better and that will help an awful lot. Also, this is year #3 of the offense and that means anyone who has been on the team during this time now has the offense down to a science, especially Eli.
I believe if Donnell returns to form; Tye develops; Davis develops; and we run well we'll have redzone options and ability. Lots of ifs but this offense is fairly "mature" outside of Sheppard and should therefore execute better.
That means we must run better and I believe we will. FB Johnson is a huge addition to this offense and I also believe our TE's will be much improved. Donnell is a big body and Tye should be improved.
I also wonder if our WR play will be improved in the redzone as well. This is year #3 in this offense; Cruz is returning; maybe Perkins and Williams showing redzone short yardage prowess.
As long as our starting OL stays healthy and develops continuity through camp we will be good enough as far as blocking goes. It is a damn shame we didn't get a stud RT in UFA but I guess you can't have everything. I have to believe with coach Solari the entire OL will be improved.
Also, I like the fact that RB Vereen is also year #2 in this offense as I see him being a redzone threat as well. I'm talking catching the ball at the 10 yard line and possibly juking his way in. I look forward to July 29 and the first day of training camp.
Here's Davis physical combine profile vs Randle's.
Davis......Randle
Height 6'2" vs 6'3"
Weight 216 vs 210
Arm length 32.25" vs 33.0"
Hands 9.5 vs 9.5
40 yard dash 4.49* vs 4.55
Bench 23 vs 15
Vert jump 36.5" vs 31.0 "
Broad jump 124" vs 121"
3 cone 6.86 vs 6.99
Short shuttle 4.18 vs 4.36
60 yard shuttle 11.28 vs 11.78
* Indicates pro day time, all other values for both from NFL combine. Davis had a hamstring issue and elected not to run the 40 at the combine.
All the above tells me one of 2 things. Either Davis 1) is actually a more explosive athlete than Randle, or 2) he prepared himself more seriously for the combine than Randle did - ie he is more dedicated and a harder worker. The big difference in their 60 yard shuttle times speaks to Davis's superior conditioning.
I would be happy with 1 or 2. It's also worth noting that with the additional 6# on his almost identical frame Davis's speed, agility drills, and leaping tests are even more impressive.
The two really good things on Davis's college tape are his hands and the way he fights for contested balls, something we know Randle was inconsistent doing.
I am not holding my breath on Davis, but boy it would be nice if he pans out. Especially as it would mean getting production from deep in the draft, something the Giants have missed since drafting Ahmad Bradshaw.
I'm encouraged Eli mentioned him specifically as having "a nice Spring." When he spoke highly of Davis "knowing where he should be" or what he should do in his routes, it was almost a between the lines poke at Randle... if you want to read into it.
The day you say something positive about Eli will be the first time you ever said anything intelligent.
Board retard strikes again
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his own play considering how well he is paid.
The day you say something positive about Eli will be the first time you ever said anything intelligent.
And the truth according to dep comes out. It is impossible to criticize Eli intelligently. Thanks for admitting your bias!
Here's Davis physical combine profile vs Randle's.
Davis......Randle
Height 6'2" vs 6'3"
Weight 216 vs 210
Arm length 32.25" vs 33.0"
Hands 9.5 vs 9.5
40 yard dash 4.49* vs 4.55
Bench 23 vs 15
Vert jump 36.5" vs 31.0 "
Broad jump 124" vs 121"
3 cone 6.86 vs 6.99
Short shuttle 4.18 vs 4.36
60 yard shuttle 11.28 vs 11.78
* Indicates pro day time, all other values for both from NFL combine. Davis had a hamstring issue and elected not to run the 40 at the combine.
All the above tells me one of 2 things. Either Davis 1) is actually a more explosive athlete than Randle, or 2) he prepared himself more seriously for the combine than Randle did - ie he is more dedicated and a harder worker. The big difference in their 60 yard shuttle times speaks to Davis's superior conditioning.
I would be happy with 1 or 2. It's also worth noting that with the additional 6# on his almost identical frame Davis's speed, agility drills, and leaping tests are even more impressive.
The two really good things on Davis's college tape are his hands and the way he fights for contested balls, something we know Randle was inconsistent doing.
I am not holding my breath on Davis, but boy it would be nice if he pans out. Especially as it would mean getting production from deep in the draft, something the Giants have missed since drafting Ahmad Bradshaw.
I'm encouraged Eli mentioned him specifically as having "a nice Spring." When he spoke highly of Davis "knowing where he should be" or what he should do in his routes, it was almost a between the lines poke at Randle... if you want to read into it.
My hope for Davis is that he becomes a superb redzone guy, a big body who runs the right route and uses his size to bring the ball in. That would be nice. If he does more well that is just a plus.
But it is good to hear Eli praise a rookie like Shepherd and a second year wideout like Davis. That is good news.
I love Eli, but sometimes he is more accurate at 50 yards than he is a 5 yards....
I love Eli, but sometimes he is more accurate at 50 yards than he is a 5 yards....
I am looking forward to how much we will use Vereen this year as compared to last. I think with OBJ; a healthy Cruz; and, a shifty rookie in Shepherd out there drawing coverages it should be "easy" for a guy like Vereen to get open. And Vereen being in there doesn't guarantee a pass either as he can run. Vereen isn't a great runner but he can run.
Davis: 165/2292/13.9/7
Randle: 97/1634/16.8/13
Randle's best season as a KR he caught 53 passes, Davis caught 71 his best year also as a JR.
I was not a huge fan of Randle's coming out.
The QBs throwing to Randle were gods next to UConn's.
Huh? Eli is the least of our problems.
I love Eli, but sometimes he is more accurate at 50 yards than he is a 5 yards....
You are such a fucking drag. You must be a hoot in party with.
Davis: 165/2292/13.9/7
Randle: 97/1634/16.8/13
Randle's best season as a KR he caught 53 passes, Davis caught 71 his best year also as a JR.
I was not a huge fan of Randle's coming out.
The QBs throwing to Randle were gods next to UConn's.
The same source compliments Davis on his route running but called him slow and lacking ability to separate.
Randle was not NFL ready except in Jerry Reese's fantasies.
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his own play considering how well he is paid.
Huh? Eli is the least of our problems.
Maybe but there is room for improvement. His play will be a key this year.
The same source compliments Davis on his route running but called him slow and lacking ability to separate.
Randle was not NFL ready except in Jerry Reese's fantasies.
so blocking is not important?
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so blocking is not important?
I also like the fact that our OL is coming back "in tact" from last year, and now also with coach Solari. Yes, I'd like to upgrade Jerry and Newhouse especially for run blocking but we couldn't make it happen this off-season. So all we can do is hope that Newhouse and Jerry improve just a bit at least with another year of experience and coach Solari's leadeership.
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You are such a fucking drag. You must be a hoot in party with.
The party doesn't start, until I get there....
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his own play considering how well he is paid.
Huh? Eli is the least of our problems.
Maybe but there is room for improvement. His play will be a key this year.
His play will be a key this year?
This is a good year for us to find out much about Randle and Davis one has moved on the other is in his second year looking to take that next step the other never did. Davis is in a much better situation he is not being asked to be the second WR he is being asked to be a solid and consisten third option if Cruz can't return to form.
This is a good year for us to find out much about Randle and Davis one has moved on the other is in his second year looking to take that next step the other never did. Davis is in a much better situation he is not being asked to be the second WR he is being asked to be a solid and consisten third option if Cruz can't return to form.
OK I'll take your word for it that Randle was a far superior draft prospect coming out (although I read somewhere that Davis's senior year was clouded by a leg injury and poor QB play) but I am not sure Randle's failure to take the next step was a mystery to all but the gods...
He simply wasn't dedicated enough. And I have a very hard time wondering if his lack of connection to what Eli saw on the field was a question, as to whose fault it was.
Eli, even in Gilbride's complex route adjusted system, managed to have great results with a plethora of receivers: Smith, Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, Boss.
And both Nicks and Manningham had horrible Wonderlic scores of 11 and 7, IIRC, so as difficult as KG's system was, it clearly could be mastered by WRs with less than stellar intellects.
I never thought Randle was dumb, FWIW. To my ears and eyes he came off much better in interviews than Nicks or Manningham ever did...
The only possibility left, as Sherlock Holmes would deduce after eliminating the impossible, was that Randle didn't care enough and failed to work hard enough in his playbook. And for two years he played in Mac's supposedly simpler timing based system.
What struck me most odd about his failure to develop was that he showed effort blocking, a trait many WRs lack.
As you wrote, we'll learn a lot this year, year 2 for Davis. Let's hope for the best.
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his own play considering how well he is paid.
Huh? Eli is the least of our problems.
Maybe but there is room for improvement. His play will be a key this year.
4400 yards passing yards at a 62% clip and 35 touchdowns to 14 picks?
I don't know how much more you're expecting to get out of him. There isn't some hidden 'prime drew brees' gear left in him.
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Talent level at draft time was night and day compared to Davis why he never took the next step from his rookie year only the gods know. He seemed to lack only big play speed but was used quite a bit on deep routes. He never seemed to be on the same page with Eli once again only the gods know for sure who's fault in most cases. For a guy his size one should say he played soft or had to fire in his game or WR moxie.
This is a good year for us to find out much about Randle and Davis one has moved on the other is in his second year looking to take that next step the other never did. Davis is in a much better situation he is not being asked to be the second WR he is being asked to be a solid and consisten third option if Cruz can't return to form.
OK I'll take your word for it that Randle was a far superior draft prospect coming out (although I read somewhere that Davis's senior year was clouded by a leg injury and poor QB play) but I am not sure Randle's failure to take the next step was a mystery to all but the gods...
He simply wasn't dedicated enough. And I have a very hard time wondering if his lack of connection to what Eli saw on the field was a question, as to whose fault it was.
Eli, even in Gilbride's complex route adjusted system, managed to have great results with a plethora of receivers: Smith, Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, Boss.
And both Nicks and Manningham had horrible Wonderlic scores of 11 and 7, IIRC, so as difficult as KG's system was, it clearly could be mastered by WRs with less than stellar intellects.
I never thought Randle was dumb, FWIW. To my ears and eyes he came off much better in interviews than Nicks or Manningham ever did...
The only possibility left, as Sherlock Holmes would deduce after eliminating the impossible, was that Randle didn't care enough and failed to work hard enough in his playbook. And for two years he played in Mac's supposedly simpler timing based system.
What struck me most odd about his failure to develop was that he showed effort blocking, a trait many WRs lack.
As you wrote, we'll learn a lot this year, year 2 for Davis. Let's hope for the best.
The most likely reason Randle wasn't pursued despite our limits at wideout was his attitude. it was just time to move on. And maybe Reuben Randle does develop just elsewhere. Sometimes a young guy needs to have his ass kicked and clearly his was a bit by Giants.
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his own play considering how well he is paid.
The day you say something positive about Eli will be the first time you ever said anything intelligent.
And the truth according to dep comes out. It is impossible to criticize Eli intelligently. Thanks for admitting your bias!
And please point out when he ever has pointed out Eli's flaws positively and talked about an intelligent level? I know finding an intelligent conversation may be hard for you, considering how fucking stupid you are..... but I will give you some time to do so.
His history of bashing Eli (much like your history of being a giant cunt), is just nauseating at this point. It's impossible to have a conversation regarding Eli on this board because there are jokes like him, who is actually using his salary as means of demeaning him. Yeah, very intelligent.
Also to note.... Eli has always been the first one to criticize his own play when he has struggled. So his point, much like your existence, is pretty worthless. But continue you on your crusade of whatever you do on this board. Just as long as you know the more you post, the more you will disappoint. Much like you have disappointed your parents throughout your life.
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his own play considering how well he is paid.
Huh? Eli is the least of our problems.
Maybe but there is room for improvement. His play will be a key this year.
4400 yards passing yards at a 62% clip and 35 touchdowns to 14 picks?
I don't know how much more you're expecting to get out of him. There isn't some hidden 'prime drew brees' gear left in him.
Eli is succeeding without Gilbride, which has upset some posters. Just move along.
You waste a lot of good energy defending E against nonsense.
You waste a lot of good energy defending E against nonsense.
Good point. This is more of a shitting on radar than defending Eli. I am starting to learn he doesnt need a defense from fans anymore. I think even some of his biggest naysayers and people who have hit on him in the past, are seeing the light. There will always be some naysayers though.
Back on topic, as I didnt watch the video - the one area in which I want to see him play better is inside the 20. He missed a few TDs last year and threw a few too many INTs for my liking. I think some of it was forcing to OBJ, some were the likes of Randle not executing. But a more efficient QB in the red zone could to a lot more points. We left a lot of points on the board last year.
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Anyone can see that if the D comes around, Cruz comes back, and Shepard is as advertised, and the OL isn't a total shitstorm, the Giants will be in the hunt this year.
You waste a lot of good energy defending E against nonsense.
Good point. This is more of a shitting on radar than defending Eli. I am starting to learn he doesnt need a defense from fans anymore. I think even some of his biggest naysayers and people who have hit on him in the past, are seeing the light. There will always be some naysayers though.
Back on topic, as I didnt watch the video - the one area in which I want to see him play better is inside the 20. He missed a few TDs last year and threw a few too many INTs for my liking. I think some of it was forcing to OBJ, some were the likes of Randle not executing. But a more efficient QB in the red zone could to a lot more points. We left a lot of points on the board last year.
This year, assuming we stay healthy, with the addition of FB Johnson we should run much better and that will help an awful lot. Also, this is year #3 of the offense and that means anyone who has been on the team during this time now has the offense down to a science, especially Eli.
I believe if Donnell returns to form; Tye develops; Davis develops; and we run well we'll have redzone options and ability. Lots of ifs but this offense is fairly "mature" outside of Sheppard and should therefore execute better.