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NFT: Bill Cosby has gone completely blind.

Mike in Long Beach : 7/19/2016 4:29 pm
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Bill Cosby is now “completely blind,” said a well-placed source, who added that the embattled comic is “in his own personal hell.”

The disgraced comedian once known as “America’s Dad” is now confined to his Pennsylvania home with only his incomprehensibly loyal wife, Camille, at his side.

The source close to Cosby told us, “His alleged victims may take some solace in the fact that he’s in his own personal hell. He has been suffering from a degenerative eye disease and is completely blind .& #8201;.& #8201;. All his Hollywood friends have turned their backs on him.

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Karma's  
antdog24 : 7/19/2016 4:30 pm : link
a bitch.
I didn't see this coming.  
ATL_Giants : 7/19/2016 4:32 pm : link
 
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Old Dirty Beckham : 7/19/2016 4:33 pm : link
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a bitch.


Not in this case. He's 79 and has gone Blind. Until this shit surfaced he lived an awesome fucking life.

Unless hell actually exists Cosby is going to get away with being a despicable person with little punishment all things considered.
Does his Pennsylvania home have curtains..  
ATL_Giants : 7/19/2016 4:37 pm : link
or Venetian blinds?
When he was arrested, who brailed him out?
Sorry, jokes in poor taste.  
ATL_Giants : 7/19/2016 4:39 pm : link
He's a criminal.
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Modus Operandi : 7/19/2016 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13038344 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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a bitch.



Not in this case. He's 79 and has gone Blind. Until this shit surfaced he lived an awesome fucking life.

Unless hell actually exists Cosby is going to get away with being a despicable person with little punishment all things considered.


Well, not exactly. His eldest son was murdered a few years back. Cosby is undoubtedly a terrible person, but I can't think of many things more horrible than having to bury your own child.

Flame on.
IMO he harmed not only himself but the country.  
KeoweeFan : 7/19/2016 4:43 pm : link
Race relations were at a highpoint during the time of, and partly because of the Huxtables (and before that Bill's very popular standup routines which sold very well as long playing albums. Bill damaged that memory for all of us.
All in the Family showed the power of ridicule. (the only thing I'd agree with Saul Alinsky on.
Deterioriation since then.
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Old Dirty Beckham : 7/19/2016 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13038360 Modus Operandi said:
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a bitch.



Not in this case. He's 79 and has gone Blind. Until this shit surfaced he lived an awesome fucking life.

Unless hell actually exists Cosby is going to get away with being a despicable person with little punishment all things considered.



Well, not exactly. His eldest son was murdered a few years back. Cosby is undoubtedly a terrible person, but I can't think of many things more horrible than having to bury your own child.

Flame on.


Didnt know his son was murdered. That sucks. Even still, he's made millions and will likely never be punished by the law for his crimes.
All of this convo is predicated on the idea of karma being real  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/19/2016 4:48 pm : link
which of course, it isn't.

Burying your own child is terrible. All the things he did were also terrible. I won't get into the business of trying to decide if he's suffered enough.
Mike, have to admit when I saw this  
pganut : 7/19/2016 4:51 pm : link
I was thinking there was a horndog masturbation joke in here somewhere.
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26.2 : 7/19/2016 4:52 pm : link
Bill Cosby spoke at my college graduation and I used to brag about it all the time. Now I wish it was some state senator that I never heard of that was boring as shit like at everyone else's graduations.
Maybe he ate too much  
jlukes : 7/19/2016 4:54 pm : link
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Go Terps : 7/19/2016 4:59 pm : link
I remember in like 2007 hearing Ron Bennington say on his show that the stories that would come out about Cosby after he died would shock people. It ended up not taking that long.

I also remember Eddie Murphy knocking him in his stand up back in the eighties.
Karma  
SGMen : 7/19/2016 5:01 pm : link
So many women have came forward that well it is hard to argue his innocence. I am not sure but I'd say the statue of limitations has likely passed on all his crimes?
I just can't understand why...  
BillT : 7/19/2016 5:02 pm : link
He was a huge celebrity at a time when even regular guys were having sex all over the place. He had to have had women throwing themselves at him and he decided to drug and rape them instead????? WTF?????
BillT: There's about 30 years of literature on that topic.  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/19/2016 5:12 pm : link
For the most part, rape seems to be a crime of violence and power. It's usually not about the sex.
RE: BillT: There's about 30 years of literature on that topic.  
BillT : 7/19/2016 5:24 pm : link
In comment 13038406 Big Blue Blogger said:
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For the most part, rape seems to be a crime of violence and power. It's usually not about the sex.

Yeah, I get all that (not that I buy it all) but he already had power. I can see guys who always get their way going berserk when they don't but this is systematic. Just too weird. Doesn't fit the paradigm.
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Jim in Fairfax : 7/19/2016 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13038394 BillT said:
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He was a huge celebrity at a time when even regular guys were having sex all over the place. He had to have had women throwing themselves at him and he decided to drug and rape them instead????? WTF?????

Rape is not about sex. It's about control.
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Giantology : 7/19/2016 5:54 pm : link
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For the most part, rape seems to be a crime of violence and power. It's usually not about the sex.


Yeah, I get all that (not that I buy it all) but he already had power. I can see guys who always get their way going berserk when they don't but this is systematic. Just too weird. Doesn't fit the paradigm.


Very different types of power.
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26.2 : 7/19/2016 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13038432 Jim in Fairfax said:
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He was a huge celebrity at a time when even regular guys were having sex all over the place. He had to have had women throwing themselves at him and he decided to drug and rape them instead????? WTF?????


Rape is not about sex. It's about control.


yeah, but doesn't the drug part kind of override the power/control thing? He's definitely a sexual predator, but I think he's more of a sociopath who wants to have sex with all these women and make it so they don't remember. Which is obviously horrible, but I think it has a lot to do with sex in this case.
How ironic considering that they say  
montanagiant : 7/19/2016 6:19 pm : link
Justice is blind
Would be great if he could get treated like  
mfsd : 7/19/2016 6:48 pm : link
Otto from Sons of Anarchy. You know, how he was blind and the marshall arranged for him to get raped by different guys each morning
Bummer  
Danny Kanell : 7/19/2016 8:10 pm : link
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Could be a fetish, or not  
Face Pepler : 7/19/2016 11:22 pm : link
Who knows?
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Kulish29 : 7/20/2016 12:07 am : link
And I completely don't give a  
Matt M. : 7/20/2016 10:00 am : link
shit.
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Cam in MO : 7/20/2016 10:38 am : link
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He was a huge celebrity at a time when even regular guys were having sex all over the place. He had to have had women throwing themselves at him and he decided to drug and rape them instead????? WTF?????


Rape is not about sex. It's about control.



yeah, but doesn't the drug part kind of override the power/control thing? He's definitely a sexual predator, but I think he's more of a sociopath who wants to have sex with all these women and make it so they don't remember. Which is obviously horrible, but I think it has a lot to do with sex in this case.



There are all sorts of kinks/fetishes that have to do with control and power- hell, most do when you get down to it.

There are plenty of women willing to take part in a fetish/kink about control/power.

Which is why this is in no way a kink or fetish, and shouldn't be compared to one.

It really points back to this NOT being about sex as much as it is about control and power. He didn't want any form of consent- which is obviously by definition rape and also IMO pretty obviously more about violence, control, and power rather than sex.


The lack of consent is the fetish, Cam.  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/20/2016 11:00 am : link
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RE: The lack of consent is the fetish, Cam.  
Cam in MO : 7/20/2016 11:03 am : link
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No, that's rape.
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Mike in Long Beach : 7/20/2016 10:06 pm : link
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No, that's rape.


It's both. I'm actually surprised you can't see that rape can include fetishes and can't. Strange.
I find it extremely strange that you would classify rape  
Cam in MO : 7/20/2016 10:32 pm : link
as a fetish. It's actually sickening. It's implying that a serial rapist does so merely because of something as common and ' normal' as a fetish. There is nothing remotely 'normal' about someone performing a sexual act on another without consent.

Fetishes are very common and to equate the two shows a complete misunderstanding of both.

You're so weird.  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/21/2016 9:04 am : link
What is your desire here to describe all fetishes as hunky dory? There are appropriate ones and horrible ones. Rape is a fetish. Staring at severed donkey lips above a movie poster for Back To the Future prior to orgasm can be a fetish.

I know your schtick here is bizarre sexual stuff, and that's all well and good, but to pretend that a fetish can't be an awful thing simply because yours are (hopefully) harmless hurts your point rather than helps it.

Rape can certainly be a fetish. End of story.
RE: You're so weird.  
Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 9:08 am : link
In comment 13040145 Mike in Long Beach said:
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What is your desire here to describe all fetishes as hunky dory? There are appropriate ones and horrible ones. Rape is a fetish. Staring at severed donkey lips above a movie poster for Back To the Future prior to orgasm can be a fetish.

I know your schtick here is bizarre sexual stuff, and that's all well and good, but to pretend that a fetish can't be an awful thing simply because yours are (hopefully) harmless hurts your point rather than helps it.

Rape can certainly be a fetish. End of story.


You're a fucking moron.

Absolutely rape fantasies can be a fetish. Only a fool would equate fantasy play with consent and actual rape.

I'm not following the argument Mike  
Patrick77 : 7/21/2016 9:13 am : link
I struggle to believe there are thousands or even millions of men out there with the same proclivities as actual rapists. I think the fantasy aspect of the fetish is a pretty huge distinction. I'm pretty sure these guys don't go home and rape their wives and then say afterwards "thanks for the fun babe lets go get some dinner". I'm guessing they get consent and have a way to maintain consent throughout the fantasy - otherwise it's just rape.
Mike: While I understand your point, and it's a good one...  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/21/2016 9:19 am : link
...I think you're straying from the usual definition of a fetish. What you're talking about might be the broader term compulsion.

I'm not saying all fetishes are harmless; they can be quite disabling. The difference is that a fetish usually involves a narrow fixation on an object or body part; a compulsion is an urge to act a certain way, which may or may not be motivated by a fetish.
I suppose  
mrvax : 7/21/2016 9:31 am : link
he's had to switch to masturbation.
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Mad Mike : 7/21/2016 9:40 am : link
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he's had to switch to masturbation.

That's pretty good.
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Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 9:44 am : link
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he's had to switch to masturbation.


Yeah, but he sits on his hand for 20mins first so that it falls asleep.


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mrvax : 7/21/2016 9:55 am : link
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he's had to switch to masturbation.



Yeah, but he sits on his hand for 20mins first so that it falls asleep.



LOL
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mfsd : 7/21/2016 9:58 am : link
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he's had to switch to masturbation.



Yeah, but he sits on his hand for 20mins first so that it falls asleep.



FTW!!
Fetish:  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/21/2016 10:33 am : link
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a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.


It says nothing there about said fetish being morally acceptable. There are fetishes that are OK, and there are fetishes that are dangerous and obviously horrible.

But I know you know that.

You are so weird, Cam.
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Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 10:48 am : link
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a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.



It says nothing there about said fetish being morally acceptable. There are fetishes that are OK, and there are fetishes that are dangerous and obviously horrible.

But I know you know that.

You are so weird, Cam.


No, numbnuts.

So is pedophilia a fetish? Using your argument, basically any rape is just because of a fetish the person has.

The distinct difference is one of consent. Even in the example of someone with a fetish for young partners, there is a huge difference between finding a young looking partner willing to dress up and role play and actually fucking little kids. They are not both simply a fetish. One is, the other isn't.

I think BBB was closer to what you are horribly trying to convey in your attempt to "adult" about the difference between what is a compulsion and what is a fetish.



Why the hell do you keep implying that a fetish  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/21/2016 11:04 am : link
needs to have consent? Of course, pedophilia is a disgusting fetish perpetrated by disgusting people. Consensually tying up your wife and engaging in mutually enjoyed sex is an acceptable fetish.

How are you not getting this?
And your attempt to paint all fetishes with one  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/21/2016 11:06 am : link
happy-go-lucky brush is bizarre. Why are you so resistant to the idea that some are good, some are bad. It's a principle that can be applied to anything.
While any even semi-regular poster here has grown accustomed  
Mad Mike : 7/21/2016 11:12 am : link
to some off the wall stuff from Fekker, this doesn't just take the cake, it stomps it into little crumbs all over the floor. I mean jfc dude.
Wow you are stupid.  
Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 11:55 am : link
Yes of course it is about consent and the difference between fantasy and reality.

Bondage is the perfect example. It's the most common link folks engage in. It absolutely is a type of fantasy where one partner is in complete control. Basically a type of rape fantasy.

The same folks that get turned on by engaging in rape fantasy would not be turned on by actually committing rape.

Just as someone that role plays with their partner in a student/teacher fantasy wouldn't be turned on IRL.

It isn't difficult for most folks to understand.

Idiot.
And I never said all fetishes were good.  
Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 11:56 am : link
Considering your intellect I can see how labeling something as "common" could be misinterpreted that way, though.


RE: Wow you are stupid.  
mrvax : 7/21/2016 1:56 pm : link
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Yes of course it is about consent and the difference between fantasy and reality.


Not so fast, Cam. Consider the case of a young man who steals the underware from females in his neighborhood to do nasty little things with. Underwear stealing is certainly a fetish but it's very doubtful that there is any consent at all.
The definition of a fetish..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/21/2016 2:04 pm : link
has to do with the desire.

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a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.


Not the act. Huge difference. A person with a foot fetish wants to look at feet or the foot turns on the person. The act is what deviates the fetish from the perversion.

Staring at someone's feet is a fetish. Forcibly taking someone's feet and jerking yourself off becomes sexual assault.

Rape is not a fetish - it is classified as a sexual crime. Same as pedophelia. A fetish is looking at child pornography or getting turned on by images of rape. Once the actual contact takes place, it no longer is a fetish, because you've progressed from desire to an action.

You might think that's just a parsing or words, but it is critical to how a fetish is perceived both as a matter of law and also in the way it fits in sexuality.
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Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 2:19 pm : link
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has to do with the desire.



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a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.



Not the act. Huge difference. A person with a foot fetish wants to look at feet or the foot turns on the person. The act is what deviates the fetish from the perversion.

Staring at someone's feet is a fetish. Forcibly taking someone's feet and jerking yourself off becomes sexual assault.

Rape is not a fetish - it is classified as a sexual crime. Same as pedophelia. A fetish is looking at child pornography or getting turned on by images of rape. Once the actual contact takes place, it no longer is a fetish, because you've progressed from desire to an action.

You might think that's just a parsing or words, but it is critical to how a fetish is perceived both as a matter of law and also in the way it fits in sexuality.


Thanks. Conveyed much gooder than me.
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Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 3:09 pm : link
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Yes of course it is about consent and the difference between fantasy and reality.



Not so fast, Cam. Consider the case of a young man who steals the underware from females in his neighborhood to do nasty little things with. Underwear stealing is certainly a fetish but it's very doubtful that there is any consent at all.


Good point. I was talking specifically of rape. Although to be honest I hadn't considered that specific type of circumstance at all.

My over encompassing point is that there is a major difference between fantasy and reality when it comes to certain types of fetish. Specifically and especially rape-type play.

Calling rape a fetish can be incredibly harmful when you bring that type of logic to subs (the partner that enjoys being play-raped). Taking it to it's conclusion one could argue that any person that engages in that form of play essentially can't be raped, because they enjoy that kind of thing. That could not be further from the truth.


Wait. Lack of consent is a fetish?  
Beezer : 7/21/2016 3:43 pm : link

Holy crap!

It's one thing if a couple is role playing. Which this, with Cosby, was not.

Come on.
Again ...  
Beezer : 7/21/2016 3:45 pm : link

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Calling rape a fetish can be incredibly harmful when you bring that type of logic to subs (the partner that enjoys being play-raped). Taking it to it's conclusion one could argue that any person that engages in that form of play essentially can't be raped, because they enjoy that kind of thing. That could not be further from the truth.


"Play" ... is giving consent. It's a role a person would play.

Jesus.
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Cam in MO : 7/21/2016 3:49 pm : link
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Calling rape a fetish can be incredibly harmful when you bring that type of logic to subs (the partner that enjoys being play-raped). Taking it to it's conclusion one could argue that any person that engages in that form of play essentially can't be raped, because they enjoy that kind of thing. That could not be further from the truth.



"Play" ... is giving consent. It's a role a person would play.

Jesus.




....correct. Maybe re-read what I typed?
Agreeing with you Cam.  
Beezer : 7/21/2016 4:25 pm : link
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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