Please note: as a First Amendment absolutist, I believe wholeheartedly that flag burning is protected speech.
That said....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
| “You’re on fire! You’re on fire, stupid!” a Cleveland officer shouted at a protester while firing the extinguishing spray. |
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Brilliant!
Ok tough guy.
Personally, I've got better things to do than "beat the hell out of" people that elect to burn an inanimate object.
Also find it funny how on message boards its always presumed the poster wins the fight (that the poster instigated)
You are forgetting that this particular idiot wanted to burn himself too. Let the man speak... No need for assault charges, and the guy is no longer an issue. Get two birds stoned at once one might say.
No bet.
I mean you hope people don't do it as a form of protest, since many find it disrespectful, but once you limit it you start chipping away at the first amendment and it's only a matter of time before the next thing gets removed from protection and before you know it we're a bunch of communists with restricted speech.
I think you just have to hope incidents like this happen more often.
LOL, that's a great point. He did qualify it with "try to" ... missed that part. Us old guys have short attention spans.
Also in Csonka's defense, most of these flag burners tend to be hippy scrawny types... I don't see many 300 pound giants burning flags. they actually have jobs -- need them to eat as much they do.
Burn a copy of The Communist Manifesto if you want to get them all frothy.
Burn a copy of The Communist Manifesto if you want to get them all frothy.
My reply was more to the person who wanted to fight anyone burning the flag. It makes my blood boil when I see people do it, but like I said, it is something we do want protected.
And that's the way we like it. Take the bad with the good.
It's not free speech any more than burning a cross is free speech. It's intent is to incite. I don't think we'd be going down some dangerous path, or that the path we were on until 2002 was.
THIS !!!!!
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I hate that ruling. A flag burner is instigating assault. I or hopefully someone else before I get there will try to beat the hell out of you. Yes, I'll be arrested for assault. I'm ok with that. Find a better way to get your point across.
THIS !!!!!
Sort of. Virginia v. Black held that cross-burning prohibitions are constitutional only when there is a clear intent to intimidate with the threat of bodily harm. The burden is on the state to prove that intent.
That said....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I don't consider it as disgusting as protected hate speech like that of the Westboro Baptist Church, though.
exactly.
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isn't it?
Sort of. Virginia v. Black held that cross-burning prohibitions are constitutional only when there is a clear intent to intimidate with the threat of bodily harm. The burden is on the state to prove that intent.
Thomas's dissent is probably my favorite thing he has written. Ultimately I think the Majority has the law correct, but his call to acknowledge what the cross burning obviously was meant to do is important. He should have started it by referring to the other justices as "The cracker-ass crackers in the Majority".
Man, there's going to be a lot of Out of the Office Auto Replies on Turkish emails.
they were in the outfield of a baseball stadium during a game. I don't know the legal term, trespassing maybe? but they were committing a different crime that superseded their 1st amendment rights.
You're fine to burn a cross in your yard should you chose to (depending on the laws in your township.)
Of course, those laws have nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with fire safety.
The burning a cross analogy is kinda silly considering that the entire purpose is to burn the cross in the yard of the folks you are trying to intimidate.
I'm not sure if I'm familiar with the ol' "burn a flag in whitey's yard to get them to move out of our neighborhood" tactic.
the cynical side of me says a cop was yelling 'you're on fire', but thinking 'take this douchebag' while dousing a guy with a fire extinguisher.
or it may just be another shitty written or edited (which took out the relevant parts) article.
Interestingly, the "Johnson" in TX v. Johnson was arrested yesterday protesting the RNC convention.
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isnt that free speech?
I mean you hope people don't do it as a form of protest, since many find it disrespectful, but once you limit it you start chipping away at the first amendment and it's only a matter of time before the next thing gets removed from protection and before you know it we're a bunch of communists with restricted speech.
I think you just have to hope incidents like this happen more often.
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make the flag flame retardant.
Too expensive. We have them made in China for a reason.