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NFT: Mets at Marlins Game 1 Mets Chat 7/22

ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 10:04 am
Here we go!

-Verrett VS Conley

-Zack Wheeler plans to throw off a mound at Marlins Park in front of Mets brass

-Cubs pitcher Clayton Richard, who underwent thoracic outlet surgery in 2014, believes the procedure will help Matt Harvey. “I felt so much better afterward. It’s really been a new lease on my career,” Richard tells Matt Ehalt in the Record. “Very happy I had it done, because I would honestly probably be done. I couldn’t really throw. … I hope it’s the same for him. That isn’t anything you want to go through.”

-LGM!
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Disappointed in Flores's 0 for 3  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:32 pm : link
He should be eating up the left hander
there goes the lead  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:51 pm : link
thanks anyways Verrett

2-2
Fuck.  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 8:51 pm : link
Well, there goes that.
Pads up on the Nats 5-2  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:53 pm : link
but we gotta take care of business
Robles throwing 98  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 9:03 pm : link
Get's it done again.
Reyes was such a steal of a pickup  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 9:11 pm : link
Reyes - Granderson - Cespedes is a formidable top of the order. If Conforto can channel what he did last year that's the missing piece. Duda/Walker/TdA/Cabrera making up the bottom of the order is perfectly fine even though they're all inconsistent. Lucroy is the only hitter rumored available who seems to be a good fit.
Robles really does have ridiculous arm talent...  
Torrag : 7/22/2016 9:11 pm : link
...and is pitching better situationally too.
Come on Walker  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:16 pm : link
bring out of your slump
RE: Come on Walker  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13042381 spike said:
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bring out of your slump


break
Need more  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:33 pm : link
Insurance runs
Familia is really going to  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:49 pm : link
Have to earn this save
Need a slow Hr  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:54 pm : link
To win this
Solo hr  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:57 pm : link
.lets go Ces
Damn who knew Loney could do that  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:00 pm : link
he's been a great pickup. KJ and Uribe were huge low cost additions last year but Loney & Reyes may end up being even better.
They are legit major leaguers  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:01 pm : link
Aint no Ceciliani and Campbell
RE: Solo hr  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13042406 spike said:
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.lets go Ces


Called it! We dont win unless we hit homers
Walker needs A MAP  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:03 pm : link
He is lost
RE: They are legit major leaguers  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13042409 spike said:
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Aint no Ceciliani and Campbell


They are, they also contribute even when they're not hitting with defense. A Flores / Loney platoon at 1st isn't so bad if Duda comes back ineffective.
Game aint over yet  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:08 pm : link
With Mr Firebreather Familia
You cannot walk  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:12 pm : link
To bring up the tying run at the plate
Do not like facing Prado in this situation  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:16 pm : link
he's a tough out and he killed us last year.
I f'n hate Prado  
Mike in NY : 7/22/2016 10:17 pm : link
He only seems to do damage against the Mets
That meaningless stat 'batting average' strikes again  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:18 pm : link
come on Familia, get this guy out.
Phew  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:19 pm : link
I cant trust Familia in the playoffs with the spotlight on him and tougher teams
Huge to win the Verrett game, plus Nats lose  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:20 pm : link
Reyes is going to have a huge impact on the rest of this season. TDA and Walker need to start hitting.
Good win  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:20 pm : link
Nats lost, Pirates lost and the Cards play the Dodgers later
RE: Phew  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13042422 spike said:
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I cant trust Familia in the playoffs with the spotlight on him and tougher teams


This one wasn't on him as much - if Cespedes catches that ball it's a different inning.
Good job by Verrettt  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:24 pm : link
Id like to see Robles getting a chance if Logan falters
Reyes defense  
CMicks3110 : 7/22/2016 10:27 pm : link
at 3rd has been pretty great. Love seeing his range at 3B, almost Machado like
Tomorrow  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:31 pm : link
We take down Met killer Fernandez and deGrominate the Fish!
Great win.  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 10:33 pm : link
Almost went a full game scoring enough to win without hitting a HR. Sure glad we hit one though as we ended up needing it.

TDA has been hitting in July. Move him up. Enough with Cabrera/Walker in the middle of everything gumming it all up.
Walker and Cabrera have been a big reason  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:36 pm : link
For our RIsP failures. Move them down
Familia 4th pitcher in major league history  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 10:36 pm : link
with 50 straight saves.
RE: Walker and Cabrera have been a big reason  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13042435 spike said:
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For our RIsP failures. Move them down


Seriously. I wouldn't even be surprised if Walker started hitting again if he had less pressure.
Turns out the one thing everyone  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 10:40 pm : link
bitched about all offseason was the last thing we needed. Addison Reed is one of the best setup men in baseball. Robles is turning into an excellent setup option himself. We seemed covered from the left side with Blevins and Familia is on a historic run. Kind of crazy we might add MORE talent as its really the only area we can logically.
Tonight's recap  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 10:46 pm : link
!
Link - ( New Window )
It ll be interesting to see  
spike : 7/22/2016 11:02 pm : link
Whos starting in CF tomorrow
I really, really love Hansel Robles.  
arcarsenal : 7/22/2016 11:03 pm : link
I keep hearing people say we need to acquire a 7th inning guy to shore up the 7-8-9 but I think Robles is it. Unfortunately, Bastardo really hasn't panned out.. obviously the plan was for him to be the 7th inning guy and have Robles be the bridge/long man but it hasn't worked out that way.

I wouldn't mind adding another reliever and we probably should in some capacity but I'd personally be completely comfortable with Robles as the 7th inning guy. He hit a little rough patch around Memorial Day but since June 1st he has a 1.99 ERA (not counting tonight, so it's actually a little lower) and I definitely feel like he's still getting better. Dude is only 25 years old.

Anyway.. huge win. Loney's HR was a fucking moonshot.. looked like Griffey. Really can't be any happier with what he's given us in Duda's place. Funny how it works.. Flo gets the start at 1B and then it's JL who comes through late with the blast.

Reed has been incredible and Familia just keeps doing what he does. Always worried that the one night he can't walk that tightrope is going to be one we really, really need.. but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. For now, the guy just keeps coming through.

Cannot do any worse than splitting the next two.. absolutely must, MUST win this series. A sweep would be ideal. Jake is going to have his work cut out for him with Fernandez going but I actually have the most confidence in him right now out of all our pitchers. He'll bring it. Let's do this.
I have confidence  
spike : 7/22/2016 11:05 pm : link
the Mets will hit their young new fifth starter Urias.

If we can steal tomorrows game, we are in good shape
Good post Arc - I think the BP search is more to keep those 3 fresh  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 11:14 pm : link
also seems like they might be looking at guys who are groundball pitchers, which is 1 thing we don't currently have outside of Familia. He's the only guy on the entire staff that has a GB% over 43% (he's 4th best in the entire league at 64%). Jefress for example is 17th best at 58%, which is also Joe Smith's career %.
RE: It ll be interesting to see  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 11:15 pm : link
In comment 13042452 spike said:
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Whos starting in CF tomorrow


Going to be Lagares. Because of the huge ballpark I doubt Conforto plays much this weekend.
Agree 100% Arc per usual  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 11:19 pm : link
I think Fernandez has only lost one time in his last 30 starts or something like that at home. lol. Definitely not going to be easy tomorrow.

I think the pieces are starting to come together though. The top of the order has come alive. Cespedes might be shaking off the rust. TDA has been hitting. Loney/Flores have been filling in fine. We are close to having things click again.
From Manhattan  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 11:22 pm : link
ManhattanMetsFan • 4 minutes ago

Overall, Mets are 15th in baseball with a 97 wRC+
FOURTH in the baseball with no one on with a 104 wRC+
27th with runners on with 84
dead last with RISP with 63

The Mets can hit. They get something in their heads in run scoring situations which prevents them from performing as they can.

They need a shrink, not a new hitting coach.
Apparently the Mets have checked in on Longoria  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 11:37 pm : link
No idea if there's anything to it but imagine moving Reyes to SS?

SS Reyes
CF Granderson
CF Cespedes
1B Duda
3B Longoria
RF Conforto
C TDA
2B Walker/Johnson/Flores

Now that's a fucking lineup. lol


Dodgers and Cards  
spike : 7/23/2016 1:18 am : link
are still going strong in the 15th inning
RE: Familia 4th pitcher in major league history  
Gmen1982 : 7/23/2016 8:45 am : link
In comment 13042436 ZGiants98 said:
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with 50 straight saves.


This is one of those stats that should include post season.
Just checked Walkers stats  
Vanzetti : 7/23/2016 9:32 am : link
I knew he had been struggling but he has been brutal the last two months. Campbell -like

Cabrera has also been terrible with in the clutch. .137 with RISP and two outs.

If you keep playing guys because of their contracts, you will pay for it. Fine to try and get a guy going in June. But it is getting to be crunch time: guys should play strictly on merit. Cabrera needs to get more days off and Walker needs to go to the bench or be packaged in a trade. He is a black hole in the lineup
Yea the pie in the sky notion  
bhill410 : 7/23/2016 9:47 am : link
Of offering walker to get a draft pick is very quickly withering on a vine
Walker is your seventh hitter  
spike : 7/23/2016 9:49 am : link
Unfortunately we dont have a no 5 or 6 hitter.

I suggest playing Flores more often instead of Walker. Even Johnson needs more ABs.
Walker has been a negative offensively since May
Ideal lineup  
spike : 7/23/2016 9:51 am : link
Reyes
Grandy
2015 Conforto
Cespedes
Duda
TDA
Walker/Flores
Cabrera
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