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NFT: Mets at Marlins Game 1 Mets Chat 7/22

ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 10:04 am
Here we go!

-Verrett VS Conley

-Zack Wheeler plans to throw off a mound at Marlins Park in front of Mets brass

-Cubs pitcher Clayton Richard, who underwent thoracic outlet surgery in 2014, believes the procedure will help Matt Harvey. “I felt so much better afterward. It’s really been a new lease on my career,” Richard tells Matt Ehalt in the Record. “Very happy I had it done, because I would honestly probably be done. I couldn’t really throw. … I hope it’s the same for him. That isn’t anything you want to go through.”

-LGM!
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I dont understand why  
spike : 7/22/2016 7:49 pm : link
TC keeps putting Walker in the key batting spot while he has not produced for over 2 months. He should bat 6th or 7th.
Come on Flores  
spike : 7/22/2016 7:51 pm : link
Gotta get the man in from third
Another RISP < 2 out fail  
speedywheels : 7/22/2016 7:52 pm : link
Christ...
RE: Another RISP < 2 out fail  
spike : 7/22/2016 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13042308 speedywheels said:
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Christ...


Just slap the ball on the ground and Reyes would score. sigh
Brutal  
Rflairr : 7/22/2016 7:52 pm : link
.
That poor execution by Flores will probably get him benched  
speedywheels : 7/22/2016 7:53 pm : link
for two weeks...

LOL...
wake the f up  
spike : 7/22/2016 7:54 pm : link
it's a must win divisional game and Verrett is pitching. Get some runs in
2nd and 3rd  
Rflairr : 7/22/2016 7:54 pm : link
1 out. No runs. Whats new?
0-5 with RISP, and it's only the 3rd...  
speedywheels : 7/22/2016 7:54 pm : link
Sigh...
I know Wright is gone  
spike : 7/22/2016 7:55 pm : link
but this team seriously needs a players only meeting to pull their heads out of their butts
RE: Z  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 7:56 pm : link
In comment 13042303 Bill in TN said:
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I read and enjoy your posts and insights regarding the Mets and BB in general.
However, I strongly disagree with your methods of evaluating offensive production.
Baseball games are won with runs.
The only meaningful statistic of offense is runs produced (runs scored + RBI - HRs). Nothing else matters.
Billy Beane's anal discharge of metrics was created mainly to evaluate a player's worth, i.e., contract value. It's all horseshit.
Give me a guy with 200 runs produced, he's worth $25Ma year.


That's fine. Some people don't see it. How is this player going to knock in 200 runs if nobody is getting on base in front of him??? Is he going to hit 200 HRs in a season or else he sucks?? RBI's are a team stat. OPS became the gold standard in the 70's long before Bean too. Bill James called it the "Greatest measure of offensive production" in 1977. OPS+ and wRC+ are just slight tweaks on it because park factors, ect. do make a slight difference and we have better technology to inlcude these things in 2016. Watch any nationally broadcasted game and OPS is now included in a hitters line when he comes to bat. Same with reading boxscores these days. We are no longer living in a batting average, RBI world. But to each their own. I'm not telling anyone how to be a fan or enjoy the sport.
Stay hot  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 8:04 pm : link
TDA.
Z  
Bill in TN : 7/22/2016 8:05 pm : link
Point taken. We agree to disagree.
TDA has to swap spot  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:05 pm : link
with the ineffective Walker
I dont get why  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:08 pm : link
Verrett didn't actually bunt the runners over..
RE: Z  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13042324 Bill in TN said:
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Point taken. We agree to disagree.


Yeah. NP man. :)
Nice !!  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 8:09 pm : link
Heck yeah. Reyes coming back to life?
I will say this about Verrett  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 8:15 pm : link
The Marlins have been red hot and have a tough lineup. If Verrett shuts them down tonight he's officially earned the 5th starter spot.
please dont walk Yelich  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:17 pm : link
in front of Stanton and Ozuna
Sweet...  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 8:25 pm : link
Nice job Logan!
HUGE Double play!  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:25 pm : link
Kudos Verrett and Reyes.
Huge DP!  
Stufftherun : 7/22/2016 8:25 pm : link
.
Disappointed in Flores's 0 for 3  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:32 pm : link
He should be eating up the left hander
there goes the lead  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:51 pm : link
thanks anyways Verrett

2-2
Fuck.  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 8:51 pm : link
Well, there goes that.
Pads up on the Nats 5-2  
spike : 7/22/2016 8:53 pm : link
but we gotta take care of business
Robles throwing 98  
ZGiants98 : 7/22/2016 9:03 pm : link
Get's it done again.
Reyes was such a steal of a pickup  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 9:11 pm : link
Reyes - Granderson - Cespedes is a formidable top of the order. If Conforto can channel what he did last year that's the missing piece. Duda/Walker/TdA/Cabrera making up the bottom of the order is perfectly fine even though they're all inconsistent. Lucroy is the only hitter rumored available who seems to be a good fit.
Robles really does have ridiculous arm talent...  
Torrag : 7/22/2016 9:11 pm : link
...and is pitching better situationally too.
Come on Walker  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:16 pm : link
bring out of your slump
RE: Come on Walker  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13042381 spike said:
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bring out of your slump


break
Need more  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:33 pm : link
Insurance runs
Familia is really going to  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:49 pm : link
Have to earn this save
Need a slow Hr  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:54 pm : link
To win this
Solo hr  
spike : 7/22/2016 9:57 pm : link
.lets go Ces
Damn who knew Loney could do that  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:00 pm : link
he's been a great pickup. KJ and Uribe were huge low cost additions last year but Loney & Reyes may end up being even better.
They are legit major leaguers  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:01 pm : link
Aint no Ceciliani and Campbell
RE: Solo hr  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13042406 spike said:
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.lets go Ces


Called it! We dont win unless we hit homers
Walker needs A MAP  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:03 pm : link
He is lost
RE: They are legit major leaguers  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13042409 spike said:
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Aint no Ceciliani and Campbell


They are, they also contribute even when they're not hitting with defense. A Flores / Loney platoon at 1st isn't so bad if Duda comes back ineffective.
Game aint over yet  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:08 pm : link
With Mr Firebreather Familia
You cannot walk  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:12 pm : link
To bring up the tying run at the plate
Do not like facing Prado in this situation  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:16 pm : link
he's a tough out and he killed us last year.
I f'n hate Prado  
Mike in NY : 7/22/2016 10:17 pm : link
He only seems to do damage against the Mets
That meaningless stat 'batting average' strikes again  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:18 pm : link
come on Familia, get this guy out.
Phew  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:19 pm : link
I cant trust Familia in the playoffs with the spotlight on him and tougher teams
Huge to win the Verrett game, plus Nats lose  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:20 pm : link
Reyes is going to have a huge impact on the rest of this season. TDA and Walker need to start hitting.
Good win  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:20 pm : link
Nats lost, Pirates lost and the Cards play the Dodgers later
RE: Phew  
Eric on Li : 7/22/2016 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13042422 spike said:
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I cant trust Familia in the playoffs with the spotlight on him and tougher teams


This one wasn't on him as much - if Cespedes catches that ball it's a different inning.
Good job by Verrettt  
spike : 7/22/2016 10:24 pm : link
Id like to see Robles getting a chance if Logan falters
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