the act of hitting or abusing a woman sickens me, but this news doesn't necessarily make me sad. I hope she's ok and never feels or experiences any pain for the rest of her life....but I kinda hope Zeke did it??
As a Giant fan I have felt snake-bit in recent years due to the injury bug. But the Cowboys fans are going through similar feelings; only theirs are self-inflicted by the players.
Thats a pretty ridiculous comparison. The Giants could not control a lot of their injuries that crippled (no pun intended) the Giants reload of their roster. The Giants couldnt forsee Chad Jones getting into an awful car accident, Steve Smith and Kenny Phillips getting micrfracture, JPP having some fun with fireworks and having that horrible accident happen. Nicks, Cruz and Plax...none were because of anything the Giants knew about there pasts. The one instance where they had taken a flier on a guy with a questionable past, Will Hill, they got bitten, cut bait, were criticized and were proven to have made the right move. Another opportunity toroll the dice on Tunsil, same criticisms from fans, we'll have to see.
The Cowboys on the other hand are playing cards with the devil whenever they sign a monster like Hardy and he contaminates their lockerroom and culture. Randy Gregory slips out if the top ten and into the third, Cowboys think they stole the draft, suspended to start the season.
Look at the Steelers! To a lesser extent they have been the second chance ranch for many players. They lost Martavis Bryant for a whole year and may be losing LeVeon Bell to start this season.
The Cowboys Front Office has absolutely built this culture (and I honestly think the younger Jones is the one who may have started this trend as a way of showing he was ready to take over the reigns for Dad). Hell they were apparently still afterr Manziel despite him all but being a crackhead.
Comparing Giants fans suffering through massive, roster crushing injuries and Cowboys fans boohooing after cheering the owner on in signing every rule breaker available because he has talent isnt in the same stratosphere.
Your friend sounds like Begbie from Trainspotting
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LMAO - a little like that. Ray didn't talk much. He just smiled a lot, but you never wanted to question him about why he was smiling. It was usually because he was just looking for a reason to fight and he was excited with the anticipation of a good rumble. To him, a fun night out on the town was to get into a fight or two. And when no one would bite, he'd find a way to get someone to fight him. But he wasn't a big talker at all. He'd do something like bump into somebody on purpose and then get in the guy's face and blame the guy for bumping into him. If the guy did anything other than put his hands out and apologize profusely, it was on. Those who knew him avoided him...especially after he had a few drinks in him and he got a gleam in his eye and his smile grew bigger
My issue is with the notion that some victims are somehow worthier of protection than others.
Greg, I generally find you to be one of the more informative and reasonable posters on this site but seems like you're just taking a contrarian point here IMO
Likely every guy was taught as a boy that boys don't hit girls, and every decent adult knows you don't abuse a child. So yes thee is a difference between either of those and an adult male getting in a fight with another man.
I have no idea what happened with this girl and or the athlete. Is he guilty, I don t know. Is he being set up, I don t know.
But I love the new way we make judgements these day especially where celebs are concerned: Guilty until proven in innocent, it s a fine way to bring the high and mighty down.
RE: It's sad that many people's first instinct when pics of abused women
come out is to go straight to "it's a money grab."
Posting to social media seems to be this girl's last resort. The bruising seems to be substantial. Her claim is that this is an on-going issue.
Put yourself in her shoes. She lives in Columbus and is dating a GOD in the town. Said god knows he has carte blanche to do as he pleases in this town. Maybe she has brought this up to authorities before. Look at PSU, things get swept away in big college towns. Not saying that's the case, but I can see why a girl would take the Instagram route, especially after this incident when 4 people who are "witnesses" side with said god.
I don't think it is either or: she can be a victim of abuse and seeking a payout.
We often want to turn victims into pure innocent lambs. Often they are not. Just because you arethevictim of crime does not mean you are not shady yourself.
We just don't have enough info to know her motives.
However, I'm glad Giants stayed away from Elliot. He may be exonerated in this case but Once a guy has one off the field problem,he usually has others. Jerry World is the perfect place for him
As a Giant fan I have felt snake-bit in recent years due to the injury bug. But the Cowboys fans are going through similar feelings; only theirs are self-inflicted by the players.
Thats a pretty ridiculous comparison. The Giants could not control a lot of their injuries that crippled (no pun intended) the Giants reload of their roster. The Giants couldnt forsee Chad Jones getting into an awful car accident, Steve Smith and Kenny Phillips getting micrfracture, JPP having some fun with fireworks and having that horrible accident happen. Nicks, Cruz and Plax...none were because of anything the Giants knew about there pasts. The one instance where they had taken a flier on a guy with a questionable past, Will Hill, they got bitten, cut bait, were criticized and were proven to have made the right move. Another opportunity toroll the dice on Tunsil, same criticisms from fans, we'll have to see.
The Cowboys on the other hand are playing cards with the devil whenever they sign a monster like Hardy and he contaminates their lockerroom and culture. Randy Gregory slips out if the top ten and into the third, Cowboys think they stole the draft, suspended to start the season.
Look at the Steelers! To a lesser extent they have been the second chance ranch for many players. They lost Martavis Bryant for a whole year and may be losing LeVeon Bell to start this season.
The Cowboys Front Office has absolutely built this culture (and I honestly think the younger Jones is the one who may have started this trend as a way of showing he was ready to take over the reigns for Dad). Hell they were apparently still afterr Manziel despite him all but being a crackhead.
Comparing Giants fans suffering through massive, roster crushing injuries and Cowboys fans boohooing after cheering the owner on in signing every rule breaker available because he has talent isnt in the same stratosphere.
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Thats a pretty ridiculous comparison. The Giants could not control a lot of their injuries that crippled (no pun intended) the Giants reload of their roster. The Giants couldnt forsee Chad Jones getting into an awful car accident, Steve Smith and Kenny Phillips getting micrfracture, JPP having some fun with fireworks and having that horrible accident happen. Nicks, Cruz and Plax...none were because of anything the Giants knew about there pasts. The one instance where they had taken a flier on a guy with a questionable past, Will Hill, they got bitten, cut bait, were criticized and were proven to have made the right move. Another opportunity toroll the dice on Tunsil, same criticisms from fans, we'll have to see.
The Cowboys on the other hand are playing cards with the devil whenever they sign a monster like Hardy and he contaminates their lockerroom and culture. Randy Gregory slips out if the top ten and into the third, Cowboys think they stole the draft, suspended to start the season.
Look at the Steelers! To a lesser extent they have been the second chance ranch for many players. They lost Martavis Bryant for a whole year and may be losing LeVeon Bell to start this season.
The Cowboys Front Office has absolutely built this culture (and I honestly think the younger Jones is the one who may have started this trend as a way of showing he was ready to take over the reigns for Dad). Hell they were apparently still afterr Manziel despite him all but being a crackhead.
Comparing Giants fans suffering through massive, roster crushing injuries and Cowboys fans boohooing after cheering the owner on in signing every rule breaker available because he has talent isnt in the same stratosphere.
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LMAO - a little like that. Ray didn't talk much. He just smiled a lot, but you never wanted to question him about why he was smiling. It was usually because he was just looking for a reason to fight and he was excited with the anticipation of a good rumble. To him, a fun night out on the town was to get into a fight or two. And when no one would bite, he'd find a way to get someone to fight him. But he wasn't a big talker at all. He'd do something like bump into somebody on purpose and then get in the guy's face and blame the guy for bumping into him. If the guy did anything other than put his hands out and apologize profusely, it was on. Those who knew him avoided him...especially after he had a few drinks in him and he got a gleam in his eye and his smile grew bigger
Greg, I generally find you to be one of the more informative and reasonable posters on this site but seems like you're just taking a contrarian point here IMO
But I love the new way we make judgements these day especially where celebs are concerned: Guilty until proven in innocent, it s a fine way to bring the high and mighty down.
Posting to social media seems to be this girl's last resort. The bruising seems to be substantial. Her claim is that this is an on-going issue.
Put yourself in her shoes. She lives in Columbus and is dating a GOD in the town. Said god knows he has carte blanche to do as he pleases in this town. Maybe she has brought this up to authorities before. Look at PSU, things get swept away in big college towns. Not saying that's the case, but I can see why a girl would take the Instagram route, especially after this incident when 4 people who are "witnesses" side with said god.
I don't think it is either or: she can be a victim of abuse and seeking a payout.
We often want to turn victims into pure innocent lambs. Often they are not. Just because you arethevictim of crime does not mean you are not shady yourself.
We just don't have enough info to know her motives.
However, I'm glad Giants stayed away from Elliot. He may be exonerated in this case but Once a guy has one off the field problem,he usually has others. Jerry World is the perfect place for him
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As a Giant fan I have felt snake-bit in recent years due to the injury bug. But the Cowboys fans are going through similar feelings; only theirs are self-inflicted by the players.
Thats a pretty ridiculous comparison. The Giants could not control a lot of their injuries that crippled (no pun intended) the Giants reload of their roster. The Giants couldnt forsee Chad Jones getting into an awful car accident, Steve Smith and Kenny Phillips getting micrfracture, JPP having some fun with fireworks and having that horrible accident happen. Nicks, Cruz and Plax...none were because of anything the Giants knew about there pasts. The one instance where they had taken a flier on a guy with a questionable past, Will Hill, they got bitten, cut bait, were criticized and were proven to have made the right move. Another opportunity toroll the dice on Tunsil, same criticisms from fans, we'll have to see.
The Cowboys on the other hand are playing cards with the devil whenever they sign a monster like Hardy and he contaminates their lockerroom and culture. Randy Gregory slips out if the top ten and into the third, Cowboys think they stole the draft, suspended to start the season.
Look at the Steelers! To a lesser extent they have been the second chance ranch for many players. They lost Martavis Bryant for a whole year and may be losing LeVeon Bell to start this season.
The Cowboys Front Office has absolutely built this culture (and I honestly think the younger Jones is the one who may have started this trend as a way of showing he was ready to take over the reigns for Dad). Hell they were apparently still afterr Manziel despite him all but being a crackhead.
Comparing Giants fans suffering through massive, roster crushing injuries and Cowboys fans boohooing after cheering the owner on in signing every rule breaker available because he has talent isnt in the same stratosphere.