The lack of respect for Eli...

2007 and Eli was not on the top 100 players list, but McNabb was right after signing for Washington. I think Eli might have done something in 2007.

It was not 2007, but 2011 which actually makes it worst. I knew it was the first year they had the list.

Good times.

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hundred million bucks. That's respect enough.

In comment 13041611 Chris in Philly said:

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caring about shit like this. It's never going to change, so just laugh at them...

Just win Baby, EFF the haters

I think he geta plenty of respect here on BBI. There are plenty of lesser profile players that get ignored

Why is your fandom affected by opinion of others? It's SOMEONE'S OPINION, it's different than yours, welcome to the planet earth.

Not sure why you guys are complaining

I don't know why people even let this bother them at this point. We.. well, most of us.. know what Eli is. At the end of the day, his accomplishments will speak for themselves. He's going to be in Canton. I don't really care if some asswipe prefers Tony Romo or Kirk Cousins. I'll take #10 under center on any Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Saturday, whatever.

a Top 10 QB at the beginning of the 2011 season, and Eli wasn't? Eli had to show the raters something more (in 2011), while Josh Freeman was Jesus/Buddha/Muhammad in a football uniform. You remember who Josh Freeman is, right? Right? Yeah. Top Lists are not a sign of respect. They are a cheap, zero thought, low level appeal for ratings/clicks.

that guy who don't get no respect, gave you two Super Bowls to enjoy. He took our fandom to the top, twice. Once when he was considered the worst QB in the playoffs and various personalities and fans gave no chance to win a playoff game, the second when he carried the offense and defense on his back. Remember Eli as our Champion.

The more they dump on Eli, we end up Champs!
And the talent is here!

Eli is just a nice humble company man who doesn't get much attention or respect for his extraordinary body of work.

How many people would list Eli as one of the toughest guys in the NFL? Not many would be my guess. Yet, there's his streak of consecutive starts which is not only impressive in Eli's era of play, but historically impressive. This streak is because Eli knows how to avoid big hits? He gets rid of the ball quickly? Yeah, sure, that's part of it but he's also tough as nails and plays through pain. Never seen a QB get the snot knocked out of them like Eli in San Fran NFC Champ game. Fucking legendary performance for all ages of NFL football. And he won that game. Eli is as tough as they make 'em.

Tough guy who suits up every Sunday isn't enough? How about his character in the locker room and off the field? Well, there again, Eli is the best of the best. Sure, he may not be a rah-rah sis boom bah guy but he's clearly the leader of the team and the face of the franchise. Could anyone really ask for a better franchise QB? Never throws his coach or teammates under the bus. Never ignores the media or chafes at their ceaseless stupid questions. Always giving back to the community. Signs autographs, sells jerseys, soup and soap alike. No gun charges, no rape allegations, doesn't thump the bible in public or ever say anything stupid or detrimental to the team or the league or the game. Here again, Eli is the best a franchise could ask for.

Okay, then, well yeah, he's tough and durable and the ultimate company man. But can he win the big game? Yup, Eli delivers here too, and really this is the most important aspect of Eli's greatness. The media is always blowing Romo and Johnny Come Lately's like (then) RGIII or (now) KC1 all the while ignoring the ironman two time Super Bowl MVP. It's fucking ridiculous. The bigger the stage, the better Eli plays. Can you really say that about any other QB in the league today? And if you give me Brady or Brees, I'll agree, mostly, but also point out that these few others are regularly touted as all time NFL greats when Eli never is.

For my money, in my 40 plus years as a Giants fan, Eli's the greatest Giant ever. And yeah, I saw or heard on the radio every down LT ever played as a Giant, even met him once, and yeah he's the best football player ever, but he's a lousy person, always was and probably always will be. So, yeah, I'm right there with you, the lack of respect is ludicrous.

In comment 13041838 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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Not sure why you guys are complaining

Stop.

In comment 13041631 regulator said:

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Eli is hardly the reason for it, but the media's collective memory is about two years or so. Not many "great" QBs play on consistently losing teams. Giants need to start winning and getting into the tournament for Eli to get the 'respect' he deserves. The regular season track record lately is not good. I guarantee that if the Giants make it to the postseason this year, there will be a flood of analysts parroting the line, "nobody wants to face Eli and the Giants in the playoffs." Eli has a track record there too and it's a pretty damn good one. We just need to get there.

Bingo.

Rightly or wrongly, QBs get too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when they lose. Lately the Giants have been losing.

I remember during the 2011 playoff run, before every game, the TV ass wipes picked against the Giants every single game. Every game! Now that's disrespect.

In comment 13041869 trueblueinpw said:

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Eli is just a nice humble company man who doesn't get much attention or respect for his extraordinary body of work. How many people would list Eli as one of the toughest guys in the NFL? Not many would be my guess. Yet, there's his streak of consecutive starts which is not only impressive in Eli's era of play, but historically impressive. This streak is because Eli knows how to avoid big hits? He gets rid of the ball quickly? Yeah, sure, that's part of it but he's also tough as nails and plays through pain. Never seen a QB get the snot knocked out of them like Eli in San Fran NFC Champ game. Fucking legendary performance for all ages of NFL football. And he won that game. Eli is as tough as they make 'em. Tough guy who suits up every Sunday isn't enough? How about his character in the locker room and off the field? Well, there again, Eli is the best of the best. Sure, he may not be a rah-rah sis boom bah guy but he's clearly the leader of the team and the face of the franchise. Could anyone really ask for a better franchise QB? Never throws his coach or teammates under the bus. Never ignores the media or chafes at their ceaseless stupid questions. Always giving back to the community. Signs autographs, sells jerseys, soup and soap alike. No gun charges, no rape allegations, doesn't thump the bible in public or ever say anything stupid or detrimental to the team or the league or the game. Here again, Eli is the best a franchise could ask for. Okay, then, well yeah, he's tough and durable and the ultimate company man. But can he win the big game? Yup, Eli delivers here too, and really this is the most important aspect of Eli's greatness. The media is always blowing Romo and Johnny Come Lately's like (then) RGIII or (now) KC1 all the while ignoring the ironman two time Super Bowl MVP. It's fucking ridiculous. The bigger the stage, the better Eli plays. Can you really say that about any other QB in the league today? And if you give me Brady or Brees, I'll agree, mostly, but also point out that these few others are regularly touted as all time NFL greats when Eli never is. For my money, in my 40 plus years as a Giants fan, Eli's the greatest Giant ever. And yeah, I saw or heard on the radio every down LT ever played as a Giant, even met him once, and yeah he's the best football player ever, but he's a lousy person, always was and probably always will be. So, yeah, I'm right there with you, the lack of respect is ludicrous.

Bravo. Excellent epistle on Eli.

His Super Bowl performances alone should have people bowing at his feet. He outperformed Brady, not to mention the crap performances from Big Ben and Peyton on the biggest stage. Also, he carried that 2011 team during the regular season. Flat out carried them. I don't know who won MVP in 2011, but they should have come in second place.

Funny how his statistics look prettier now that he is in a QB-friendly system that other QBs have been feasting on for years.

I am confident Eli will win one more ring. He wants it just because and not to shut some ignorant people up. The latter will just be a bonus.

2016 will have him put up numbers that are far better than any he has previously had.

Tony Romo is 36 and beat up. Surgeries, missed games, the body can only take so much and my feeling is the key to beating Dallas is hitting Romo. That is why I believe Dallas will keep the TE Witten in to block and pass protect a lot more than in year's past. In fact, TE Witten is no longer the receiving threat he was in years past as I believe he is 35 or 36 now. I actually thought he was going to retire.

For Eli to have the kind of season I predict the following must be in place:
1. OBJ must stay healthy and not be suspended for the season. This offense is 1/2 as productive without him. The man just beats double coverages and produces. Eli has the best deep ball in the NFL and OBJ will benefit.
2. OL / TE / FB blocking must be there for the pass and run. If we develop a solid running game that moves the chains Eli will have more options and more time of possession to get points.
3. Health: we don't have great depth at most positions so staying healthy is key.
4. WR Victor Cruz and WR Sheppard. A healthy productive Cruz changes this offense completely. Imagine Eli having a WR that can be counted on to convert 3rd downs? That can be counted on to run the right routes? If Cruz does bounce back and catch even 75-850-7 type numbers without running the wrong routes (Reuben Randle) which caused Eli to throw turnovers, well, this offense improves immensely. Rookie Sheppard must also become a true force as the year moves along. If he is "OBJ JR." in terms of being a rookie who can play and be effective this offense has 3 reliable wideouts and you need that in today's NFL.
5. Redzone offense: Eli and the coaches have to find ways to score TD's when inside the 20. A run games helps but so do playmakers. I think this is where FB Johnson, TE Donnell and WR Davis may be used along with RB Vereen.

This is the 3rd year of this offense and Eli knows it cold. We have very solid personnel and a "maturing OL" that has continuity on its side.

Eli prediction: 65%, 5,000 yards, 45 TD, 10 INT. Probowl and playoffs.

That some people never get beyond perception. No matter what actually occurs they never allow facts to deter them from their narrative. This happens in all areas of like. It is why I stopped caring long ago about what talking heads and reporters have to write or say about sports, politics, etc.

It really hit me that he's thrown two of the most memorable passes in the history of the sport. That will be his legacy long after the media mouths have moved on to other victims.

Fans about Eli. It takes one game like Minnesota to put them back to saying he sucks. He can have five great games after that and people still remember one of those. I choose not to watch or talk about the Giants with these people.

because a lot of the same apes that vote for shit like this also have a HOF vote. Some of the HOF voters have a warped opinion of certain players. Warped is being kind.

That's what bothers me. I've seen NY athletes get snubbed or virtually ignored for the HOF many times before.

In comment 13042026 djm said:

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because a lot of the same apes that vote for shit like this also have a HOF vote. Some of the HOF voters have a warped opinion of certain players. Warped is being kind. That's what bothers me. I've seen NY athletes get snubbed or virtually ignored for the HOF many times before.

How DE Michael Strahan wasn't a first ballot hall of famer was beyond me. I think he got "penalized" because Strahan's sack record is tainted by the Brett Favre fall down, which is also over-rated cause he was going to get nailed anyway. So yeah, there is an anti- NY stigma.

I think Eli is ALREADY a HOF QB with two rings and solid overall play during his career including his GAMES STARTED streak. But oddly I think Eli need to put up some huge statistical, FF league impressive numbers these next few years to get in first ballot. A 3rd ring and MVP makes him a first ballot, no argument. Lets hope Eli gets what he deserves.

and only one HOFer that played on both teams--LT. One additional one in Harry Carson. Guys like Banks, Bavaro, Marshall, Oates don't even get a WHIFF of Canton. Not even a vote or a mention while I can rattle of a dozen members of Canton that like those 4 players should probably be in the hall of very good, but only NY athletes receive the 'objective" vote. When it's Dan Hampton or Jerome Bettis---come on in we love you!

Look at the Yankees teams from the mid to late 90s. How many true Yankees from that era will make it to cooperstown? Two? Jeter and Mo. No one else will come close. I am not saying anyone else should get in but you can bet your ass if Bernie Williams won 2 WS titles and dominated his position for 8 seasons for a team like the Padres? He'd be a lock. An absolute lock. You know it I know it.

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but in the end it's Romo's upside and consistency that got him the nod

LMAO

An injury prone 36 yr old QB with "upside". Too funny....

In comment 13042071 RinR said:

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Quote: but in the end it's Romo's upside and consistency that got him the nod LMAO An injury prone 36 yr old QB with "upside". Too funny....

I laughed at that statement as well. But upon further review, I think they mean upside as in having a good statistical season on this loaded offense. This assumes he stays healthy which is a big "if" if you ask me. He had surgery this off-season to "tune up" his shoulder so he doesn't potentially get hurt. I mean, is this preventative surgery?

I hope our pressure wreaks havoc on him opening day in their house. Watch him wince as he hits the ground hard. Assuming health, we are going to bring heat from mostly the DL but also from blitzes from LB Kennard, LB Robinson, S Collins and possibly my wildcard guy FB Nikita Whitlock. :)

Why this continues to bother people i don't understand. This will not change. It is easier to bash Eli as the anti Peyton than it is to prop him up. It is not changing - not a big deal

stays healthy, I expect him to put up better numbers than Eli. He has an absurd offensive line and an elite wide receiver. That's all this article has to say.

In comment 13042167 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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stays healthy, I expect him to put up better numbers than Eli. He has an absurd offensive line and an elite wide receiver. That's all this article has to say.

Maybe. Just maybe. I was watching a Jerry Jones interview with Romo being the key topic. I think it was ESPN online. Anyhow, you got the idea that Jones was going to "protect" Romo as much as he can. That means running more; using TE Witten as a blocker; and RB Elliott to stay in and chip when he doesn't run.

I think QB Tony Romo, if healthy, will have a highly efficient season behind that blocking. I'm just not so sure he'll throw as many TD's as in year's past. Dallas wiill run for like 25 TD's with that OL and those RB's.

Who could win multiple superbowls while stringing together the seasons Eli has the past 7 years with all the production and get such little of respect. As it is, pretty much any journeymen or young nothing-to-show-to-date hack who falls into a good situation and has a half way decent year can find SOME boob in the media putting him ahead of Eli in their top10 list.

I guess it's all a matter of preference. If one prefers counting completion % over superbowl wins, who I am to say otherwise?

In comment 13042214 UberAlias said:

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Who could win multiple superbowls while stringing together the seasons Eli has the past 7 years with all the production and get such little of respect. As it is, pretty much any journeymen or young nothing-to-show-to-date hack who falls into a good situation and has a half way decent year can find SOME boob in the media putting him ahead of Eli in their top10 list. I guess it's all a matter of preference. If one prefers counting completion % over superbowl wins, who I am to say otherwise?

Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gillbride's offense called for deeper passes hence the lower completion percentages. Eli's completion percentages have been decent the last two years under McAdoo and the WCO.

The reason I like Eli over most QB's is that he is a pressure QB. ICE under pressure and a winner. 2 rings prove that. I firmly believe that had the Giants sustained the "normal or average" amount of injuries from mid-2012 to 2015, we'd have made the playoffs maybe each and every one of those years, except 2013! We just didn't catch those breaks you need to catch.

I mean, if LT Beatty, DE JPP, CB Akumura, S Jackson (looking like starter) had stayed healthy all year I think we are a playoff team. We'd still have sucked but at 9-7 maybe we take the division over the Skins. It is about health and QB play and superstar play (OBJ).

There is not a QB in the league who would get such little recognition if they had half of Eli's resume. A guy can show nothing for years and then put up a half way decent year managing games and you're going to see someone propping him over Eli. Those hacks come and go every year.

That said, I think the pieces are in place for a monster year for Eli if Cruz looks something like we remember.

This year I think people are starting to take notice. Noticed that he's had 2 solid years under a more QB friendly system. Noticed that he has done so under the radar. Noticed enough to place him top 50 when he usually doesn't make the top 100 (albeit behind Rivers which I don't get). Noticed enough for more than one analyst to consider he has a great chance to be an All Pro this coming season. One even suggested the league MVP.

There's always going to be an article that craps on Eli. He's not elite. He doesn't belong in the HoF. Blah blah blah. Hell I laugh when people call Big Ben more of an iron man than Eli. I guess my definition of iron man differs from others. Still, I think if he has another great statistical year, even a quiet one, the talk about Eli will really turn a corner.

how little the Cowboys have accomplished with Romo, and how time after time, the Cowboys are everyone's darling in the preseason. Then they begin to tank, and then win a game, maybe they are 2-5 or some shit, and people start projecting them running the table and winning the division, and it has happened what? 3 times in 10 years? And they are always everyone's darling. It gets tiring. And Romo's consistency? And upside? Where the fuck does that come from? He will not play 16 games this year. Take it to the bank. The Cowboys have won 2 playoff games under Romo. And the win last year was gift-wrapped with the picked up PI flag. Inexplicable. They lost to the Giants in 07-08, after going 12-4, and it was Romo at the end of the game with the ball in his hands throwing a game ending interception. That win over the Eagles in the playoffs was a joke. Eagles had nothing. The Cowboys lose when they are supposed to lose, and lose when they are supposed to win. It does make me sick how every year is finally going to be their year.

In comment 13042359 Glover said:

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how little the Cowboys have accomplished with Romo, and how time after time, the Cowboys are everyone's darling in the preseason. Then they begin to tank, and then win a game, maybe they are 2-5 or some shit, and people start projecting them running the table and winning the division, and it has happened what? 3 times in 10 years? And they are always everyone's darling. It gets tiring. And Romo's consistency? And upside? Where the fuck does that come from? He will not play 16 games this year. Take it to the bank. The Cowboys have won 2 playoff games under Romo. And the win last year was gift-wrapped with the picked up PI flag. Inexplicable. They lost to the Giants in 07-08, after going 12-4, and it was Romo at the end of the game with the ball in his hands throwing a game ending interception. That win over the Eagles in the playoffs was a joke. Eagles had nothing. The Cowboys lose when they are supposed to lose, and lose when they are supposed to win. It does make me sick how every year is finally going to be their year.

Good assessment and post. The Cowboys defense is really going to struggle, especially early in the year with suspensions and such.

The Cowboys are likely going to score a lot and control the clock, but may struggle against our DL where each player is an above average run defender. I also think LB Robinson gives us middle of the field coverage ability that we haven't had in recent years.

So long as our safeties develop in pass coverage, we'll be fine on defense. We just have to stay healthy, knock Romo around and hope Cromartie holds his own against WR Bryant.

In comment 13041695 Pete in MD said:

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There are only 12 QBs IN HISTORY who have won multiple Super Bowls. Only 7 players IN HISTORY have multiple Super Bowl MVPs. Eli is on both of those lists but he's somehow not a top 10 QB in the league right now. I wish Romo would've stayed healthy so he could have choked in the playoffs more and we wouldn't have this "what could have been" narrative. I'm glad that Eli doesn't care about this crap but it drives me crazy.

And there is only one QB in the history of the NFL that has defeated an 18-0 team in the SB

In comment 13041611 Chris in Philly said:

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caring about shit like this. It's never going to change, so just laugh at them...

This.

Why do we care about how much respect someone gets from media, fans, or even other players?

Do you remember where you were when he won us our Super Bowls? Do you remember who you were with and how happy you were?

That's what matters. That's what I will take to my fucking grave when the man comes around.

Respect for Eli,it does bother me a little that he gets slighted for aspects of his game in favor of quarterbacks who have not achieved what he has or choked on a grander scale. How Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford or Andy Dalton are lifted above Eli is fucking stupid to me.

Bold prediction for Romo is he will play all 16 games. Bold prediction for Eli is first team all pro. Possibly the best QB in the league. Also an admission of underrating him the last 2 years.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000675666/NFC-East-bold-predictions-for-2016?campaign=fb-nn-sf31404211-sf31404211

Also here is Eli being picked by Jamie Dukes as MVP. He does later caveat that Brady was his first pick but he's sitting out 4 games.

http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/NFL-Network-has-Eli-Manning-as-a-2016-MVP-candidate/fa28de61-1801-4bd7-b00b-03fd77f939e0

Finally, here's his pick at 47 of the top 100 which shows me the players are starting to respect his game as well.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100-2016/0ap3000000667954/Top-100-Players-of-2016-No-47-Eli-Manning

My point here is that I think it's clear that the change in offensive philosophy has greatly helped Eli. I'm not hating on Gilbride's offense either. Gilbride's offense was feast or famine. The highs were high and the lows were low. Hell yes OBJ is incredible but it's just been him so far. Most of the talking heads said Eli couldn't make the adjustment to a WCO. I don't think Eli has gotten better over the last 2 years. I think he's in a system that makes a QB look better. Just how many interceptions under Gilbride's offense was due to the receiver and QB not being on the same page? We may never known. Under McAdoo's offense, we are seeing much of Eli's skillset and less of the team's misfires.

I'll make another point that he's getting these accolades despite an overall terrible team the last 2 seasons. Is anybody blaming Eli for the Giants missing the playoffs? In previous years people would try and discredit him and claim the defense won the SB's and Eli had nothing to do with it. Laughable I know since Eli took home the MVPs.

Call me crazy but he could do it this year ....
We played the Panthers as good as anybody with Zero
on Defense and should have Won same with New England
now I'm not saying what Von Miller might have done to the right side of the O-line if the right things fall into place starting with health and guys like Kennard Hankins Cruz and Donnell come back and stay healthy and Thompson or whomever
secure the FS position . We will not only make some noise but we will make a run .
Then all the Idiots who refuse to face the facts about our
future HOF WB ...
Were gonna bitch slap The Boys opening night and find a way
to at the Very Least split with Philthy ...

agree about Eli always being put down.. but do you remember way back when, that "Bob" McAdoo used to be called Ben?

The media's being mean to Eli again

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Call me crazy but he could do it this year .... We played the Panthers as good as anybody with Zero on Defense and should have Won same with New England now I'm not saying what Von Miller might have done to the right side of the O-line if the right things fall into place starting with health and guys like Kennard Hankins Cruz and Donnell come back and stay healthy and Thompson or whomever secure the FS position . We will not only make some noise but we will make a run . Then all the Idiots who refuse to face the facts about our future HOF WB ... Were gonna bitch slap The Boys opening night and find a way to at the Very Least split with Philthy ...

You aren't crazy by any means. I too believe we'll be better than most think this year and that any of a 10 or so teams in the NFC are capable of making the SB (good QB play and pass rush being the key factors...) and we have a very good QB and we will have pass rush this year.

The key is staying healthy and for the youth to develop. If guys like Sheppard, Thompson, Apple, Behre, Jackson, OWA, Bromley, Goodson, Perkins, Brett Jones, Bobby Hart, Nikita Whitlock, etc. develop and become contributors our future looks bright.

As for Dallas, remember 3 starting defensive players are already out for game 1 due to suspension. And camp hasn't even started yet so you don't know what injuries, knicks and so forth are going to hit them on defense. Same can be said for us so I'm praying we have gotten healthy and stay healthy for a great opening day game.

The main reason I'm picking us over Dallas despite their offensive talent is we will certainly score on them but our DLine, the starting group, is very solid against the run and Dallas will focus on their ground game all year long. Every starter on the DLine is an above average run defender if healthy and so forth.

I also like LB Kennard against the run. He is a true hammer. LB Brinkley really surprised last year and showed he can stop the run. Brinkley can't cover but that is why we signed LB Robinson. I also think S L. Collins will be an absolute stud at the LOS and stuff the run with the best of them too.

I also like our special teams units. Opening day often brings surprises and big returns and I love D. Harris in this role.

I'm predicting an opening WIN this year as we bounce back and don't give the game away like we did last year. But everything is contingent on our health as we lack depth. Dallas likely doesn't have the pass rushers for opening day needed to rattle Eli - 2 DE's out due to suspension.

If you can't pressure a QB he will eat you up. I see Eli going short to his open options (Tye, Vereen, Sheppard, Cruz) and deep more than once to OBJ who will haul a few in for sure.

Giant by a TD or better if we are healthy.

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that think he will be first team all pro this season. That means he will be the best qb in the league. Better than Rogers, Luck, Cam, Brady etc. That is giving props!!

If rookie WR Sheppard is as good as advertised and is ready for live NFL game action out of the gates Eli has a real shot to put up the big numbers needed for first team AllPro. Also, we need to stay healthy and for Victor Cruz to return to form.

Other keys are redzone offense where Eli must find a way to get the ball in the endzone. I think we will run much better this year with a true FB in Johnson and improved TE blocking and OL blocking. Our continuity is also very key in my eyes.

I'm hoping Eli is 65%, 5,000, 45 TD and 9 INT or something like that but more importantly he wins games. Stats aren't everything but for AllPro they are the key.

Compilation by Beast Mode of "the NFL'S 10 Greatest Catches Ever".

Actually it's 15 since it includes 5 "Honorable Mentions".

Now of course some of those catches are "arguable" as to whether or not they belong on the list, and it's pretty clear that the specific game and play situations factored into the editor's selections. Several of them are last minute or seconds game winning grabs in OT and/or playoff situations.

Only 3 QBs appear twice, and at least one or two of those include, to my mind, a truly questionable or even dubious choice. The weakest "greatest catch" to my eyes is easily Brady to Welker for 99 yards, which is a less impressive catch than maybe half a dozen or so among Eli to (OBJ, Nicks, Cruz, or Manningham) plays that many Giants' fans can recall off the top of our heads.

But just taking the list at face value, the QBs with 2 plays on it and the plays' rankings are as follows:

15) Brady to Moss
10) Brady to Seller
14) Favre to Greg Lewis
9) Favre to Antonio Freeman
4) Eli to Beckham
1) Eli to Tyree

Of all the QBs on the list, every single one of the retired ones was a first ballot HOFer. All of the QBs on the list are or were Super Bowl winners.

Considering that Eli to Manningham is easily a more impressive throw and catch than the Brady to Welker play listed at 9, and that in any case Eli is the ONLY QB involved in 2 plays among the top 5, why isn't Eli widely though of as a sure fire HOFer?

I actually understand why and have addressed it at times, but still it's pretty bizarre.

Enjoy the video.

10 Greatest Catches of All Time - ( New Window )

"Welker"

It seems like players are rated based on how many points they'll get in fantasy. The bottom line is Eli has the rings.

In comment 13042782 AP in Halfmoon said:

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It seems like players are rated based on how many points they'll get in fantasy. The bottom line is Eli has the rings.

History will judge Eli, for the Lombardis and the greatest plays ever. Long past when the top FF guys are forgotten. Guys like Romo, Ryan, and Rivers.