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NFT: Mass shooting at Munich shoping center

njm : 7/22/2016 1:36 pm
Varying accounts, all with at least 1 fatality. Reuters has the highest death toll at 15
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RE: RE: Ctc  
ctc in ftmyers : 7/24/2016 8:43 pm : link
In comment 13043617 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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In comment 13043590 AP in Halfmoon said:


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I'm not predicting anything



History will not treat us kindly sounds like some sort of prediction, but who knows with you.


Wasn't worth responding to Rob.
RE: Holy strawman  
buford : 7/24/2016 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13043537 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Ya know- the idea of not letting a flood of Muslim refugees in the country isn't bigoted.


You do know that ISIS has infiltrated the refugee camps and some of the Paris attackers got there with refugees? And the FBI has said they can't vet these people.

But it's all a game to you, you just post this shit to stir up trouble.
RE: RE: Holy strawman  
Milton : 7/24/2016 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13043653 buford said:
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You do know that ISIS has infiltrated the refugee camps and some of the Paris attackers got there with refugees? And the FBI has said they can't vet these people.
I assume the plan is that anyone who can't be vetted won't be allowed in the country.

What I don't understand is why these people need to be relocated halfway across the globe as immigrants rather than staying nearby their original countries as refugees waiting to return to their county when the hostilities cease. Palestinian refugees have been waiting generations to return to their place of their origin (or their grandparents origin) without being re-settled elsewhere, what makes the Syrian refugees in a hurry to abandon their dream of a return?

Logic would dictate that Arab/Muslim refugees keep to Arab/Muslim countries where they (for the most part) share a culture and language until it is safe to return to their homes in Syria. Why relocate refugees to America where they are bound to experience the most culture shock and the most difficulty assimilating?
buford  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/24/2016 9:43 pm : link
We disagree on refugees. How is that stirring anything up? The fact that we played a role in screwing it up doesn't seem to bother you. BTW, how would one vet a widow with 2 young children?

Rob, You are correct. My apologies. I firmly believe that will be the case.
Milton  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2016 10:00 pm : link
The neighbors don't want them because they're destabilizing, and because in many instances these conflicts prove much more enduring than originally anticipated (Lebanon, for instance, had nearly a quarter-century of on again-off again war and is still at risk). Jordan, which has settled refugees, had to drive out the PLO in the 70's. The PLO was arguably the tipping point for the start of the Lebanese Civil War. Iraq has its own problems, to be sure. Saudi is famously insular, and the princelets around the Gulf don't have the resources (food/water, not $ - they have plenty of that) to accept large numbers of refugees either.
RE: buford  
buford : 7/24/2016 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13043680 AP in Halfmoon said:
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We disagree on refugees. How is that stirring anything up? The fact that we played a role in screwing it up doesn't seem to bother you. BTW, how would one vet a widow with 2 young children?

Rob, You are correct. My apologies. I firmly believe that will be the case.


It's not about refugees. It's about you.
Milton  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/24/2016 10:08 pm : link
Good points. For what it would cost to transport, house, etc. the US could rent an outdated cruise ship and anchor it off the coast of Syria.
RE: RE: buford  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/24/2016 10:16 pm : link
In comment 13043690 buford said:
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In comment 13043680 AP in Halfmoon said:


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We disagree on refugees. How is that stirring anything up? The fact that we played a role in screwing it up doesn't seem to bother you. BTW, how would one vet a widow with 2 young children?

Rob, You are correct. My apologies. I firmly believe that will be the case.



It's not about refugees. It's about you.


Great, I'll try harder to ignore you.
Suicide bombing by a 27-year old Syrian national...  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2016 10:45 pm : link
per CNN. Thankfully it seems like he wasn't very good at his craft.
I wonder what the leaders tell them  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/24/2016 10:52 pm : link
If they fail and only commit suicide do they get their rewards in heaven?
RE: Suicide bombing by a 27-year old Syrian national...  
Patrick77 : 7/24/2016 11:08 pm : link
In comment 13043722 Dunedin81 said:
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per CNN. Thankfully it seems like he wasn't very good at his craft.


Practice at your craft makes perfect. Well good practice makes perfect. Must be hard for these bozos to practice suicide bombs.
RE: RE: Holy strawman  
Stu11 : 7/24/2016 11:23 pm : link
In comment 13043653 buford said:
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Ya know- the idea of not letting a flood of Muslim refugees in the country isn't bigoted.

Holy cow the right wing has so twisted what Comey said months ago in front of congress. We have an intensely strong vetting system. It takes 6 months to get a refugee to get into this country. They are first vetted by UN security and then our country vets them. Congress asked him for 100% guarantee and nobody can ever give that about anyone trying to enter the country. Somehow Sean Hannity and Breitbart.com have taken that and interpreted it to mean that taking in refugees would be a free for all that we can't stop or monitor.
RE: RE: Holy strawman  
madgiantscow009 : 7/25/2016 12:33 am : link
In comment 13043653 buford said:
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In comment 13043537 AP in Halfmoon said:


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Ya know- the idea of not letting a flood of Muslim refugees in the country isn't bigoted.

You do know that ISIS has infiltrated the refugee camps and some of the Paris attackers got there with refugees? And the FBI has said they can't vet these people.

But it's all a game to you, you just post this shit to stir up trouble.


http://yle.fi/uutiset/yle_head_count_roughly_three_out_of_four_asylum_seekers_are_male/8355945

Where are they from?

The most common locations that asylum seekers are leaving include Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, Albania and Syria. Up to October 4, the number of refugees entering Finland from Iraq was 13,848, while 1,810 came from Somalia, 1,060 from Afghanistan, 676 from Albania and 409 from Syria.

What’s the gender split?

According to Kautto the vast majority of the asylum seekers – roughly 15,000 – are male. Women account for 2,816. There are close to 2,000 children traveling with adults, while unaccompanied minors number around 1,000.

That's Finland, but most are non-Syrian refugees and males.

17397/17816 = 0.977, 95% non-Syrian.
15000/17816 = 0.84, 84% male.

RE: RE: RE: buford  
buford : 7/25/2016 6:12 am : link
In comment 13043701 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13043690 buford said:


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In comment 13043680 AP in Halfmoon said:


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We disagree on refugees. How is that stirring anything up? The fact that we played a role in screwing it up doesn't seem to bother you. BTW, how would one vet a widow with 2 young children?

Rob, You are correct. My apologies. I firmly believe that will be the case.



It's not about refugees. It's about you.



Great, I'll try harder to ignore you.


That would be a blessing.
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