is a legit prospect, wish they could have gotten something a little closer to MLB ready though (if the trade goes through). If the kid turns out to be a star though I guess I'll eat my words. I really would have liked Schwarber.
Didi is 25 and Doesn't Matteo play short as well? I don't understand this. We need pitching
If you're able to get a team's best prospect, you do it. You don't take someone lesser just because you have a current need there. And we don't know what will happen in upcoming years. Didi might regress, get injured, etc. And these shortstops can usually make the switch to second or third. Plus it doesn't hurt to have more ammo for future trades. Not to mention not all of these guys will pan out. Between Mateo and Torres, if one of them turns out to be above average while the other is a bust, you should probably be thankful. Most of these guys don't work out.
Yanks Are 10 games over .500 since May 9th which is when chapman came back, also heard the Yankees try and go for it even after trading chapman, so now with chapman gone who picthes the 7th Sherve? Good luck with that he stinks, maybe it will be Green but now the Yankee bullpen is not as good, it will be a struggle to get the ball to Betances and Miller with a lead like it was in April . Just blow this team up completely and sell off Beltran,and others.
it seems the baseline deal is Chapman for Torres, plus other pieces back to NYY.
If it were to expand, it seems Soler has been mentioned. Going back to the Cubs the names are all over the place..Beltran, Gardner, Eovaldi, Pineda have all been thrown out there on Twitter so who knows.
It's still Torres plus, with no indication what the plus is...
If they feel they want to realistically compete next season then keep Miller but you need to add a bat in the offseason and I want Encarnation for DH/1b. I know he will cost us but we have ZERO power with Beltran gone Big E has power.
If you don't sign a big bat then its probably best to sell Miller with his value so high.
well isnt bird essentially a big bat we will add next season?
Bird was a great story last year. But, there are two big problems relying on him for anything. One, last year was out of character in terms of the power he displayed. Two, he had shoulder surgery. There is no way to know how his recovery will impact his ability next year.
but yes, the impact of the shoulder surgery is unknown at this time.
Potential is one thing. He displayed decent power in the minors, but his production while up with the big club last year seemed to surprise a lot of people. I like Bird, but that shoulder worries me more than anything.
Per Davidoff/King, Jeimer Candelerio could be the second name...
for A prospects. Even with him being a top prospect and assuming for a meteoric rise through the minors, that is, at best, 2-3 years from now. They should be able to get top prospects in AAA for their chips.
for A prospects. Even with him being a top prospect and assuming for a meteoric rise through the minors, that is, at best, 2-3 years from now. They should be able to get top prospects in AAA for their chips.
I get that, though I would point out that if he started next year at AA he could easily be up at the tail end of next year. It's not like he's in rookie ball. But I think what people miss on this is that he is immediately a significant trade chip, so that even if he doesn't have an MLB AB until 2018 he could headline a deal for another piece we need as early as this offseason.
for Mateo. I know his reputation is as a generally good kid, but the recent suspension shows that there are some maturity issues. Bringing in some competition to let him know that he's not going to be just handed anything can only help with his development.
Mateo could probably shift to CF very easily. There's nothing
for A prospects. Even with him being a top prospect and assuming for a meteoric rise through the minors, that is, at best, 2-3 years from now. They should be able to get top prospects in AAA for their chips.
I get that, though I would point out that if he started next year at AA he could easily be up at the tail end of next year. It's not like he's in rookie ball. But I think what people miss on this is that he is immediately a significant trade chip, so that even if he doesn't have an MLB AB until 2018 he could headline a deal for another piece we need as early as this offseason.
Exactly. The flexibility is there whether:
1- Didi continues to be amazing and stays on the team for awhile. Then he'd switch positions - hopefully easy to do due to his athleticism
2- Didi regresses. Then he can take over
3- Yankees are contending somehow and this guy isn't ready. Then he's a great trade chip.
for A prospects. Even with him being a top prospect and assuming for a meteoric rise through the minors, that is, at best, 2-3 years from now. They should be able to get top prospects in AAA for their chips.
I get that, though I would point out that if he started next year at AA he could easily be up at the tail end of next year. It's not like he's in rookie ball. But I think what people miss on this is that he is immediately a significant trade chip, so that even if he doesn't have an MLB AB until 2018 he could headline a deal for another piece we need as early as this offseason.
Exactly. The flexibility is there whether:
1- Didi continues to be amazing and stays on the team for awhile. Then he'd switch positions - hopefully easy to do due to his athleticism
2- Didi regresses. Then he can take over
3- Yankees are contending somehow and this guy isn't ready. Then he's a great trade chip.
MLB-ready 3B. Also chatter Warren could be the throw-in. Before y'all get too excited he has been terrible this year.
As for Bird, I've been following Bird since he was drafted and his success didn't surprise anyone who read what the Yankees thought of him.
Candelario was actually born in NYC. Moved back to DR because his dad opened a training facility. Utility player upside. Might be a very solid one at that.
Sherman just tweeted Candelario is not part of the
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 14m14 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
#Yankees plan is deal Chapman, play next 4-5 days, see if make inroads in race. If so, will go for it. If not, Miller, Beltran, etc in play
Said Epstein made it clear Schwarber was not in play, even for Miller. Sherman - ( New Window )
the Cubs told all teams right off the bat that Schwarber was not on the table for any deal. That included some "mystery" starter who hasn't been discussed and is cost-controlled for a "long time" that was never revealed. Seemed like a media creation to me (The Schwarber stuff).
Warren will be a good get. He's been bad this year but he can provide depth in BP and switch to a starter if need-be. Yankees desparately need some guys just to eat innings
It's frustrating seeing so many fans tweet "Why do we need
Torres? He's a SS,we have lot's of those".Kid was BA's #1 Cub prospect this year.#26 in BA's Mid-Season top 50.(Mateo #19,Sanchez #37,judge #42)Yankee $$$ doesn't buy players any more (Even if Hal let Cash spend it!). In the past, Yanks couldn't make trades because the farm was bare. Stockpiling assets is the way baseball is run now. And,just because someone is a SS, doesn't mean they'll play that position should they make the show.Sherman just put out a what if article about maybe the Yankees turn around & pursue Sales, reason they'd be able to? prospects!
This is my dream scenario. Happ is the guy I want and if they can get him for Chapman instead of Miller, that's a great job by Cashman.
If you're able to get a team's best prospect, you do it. You don't take someone lesser just because you have a current need there. And we don't know what will happen in upcoming years. Didi might regress, get injured, etc. And these shortstops can usually make the switch to second or third. Plus it doesn't hurt to have more ammo for future trades. Not to mention not all of these guys will pan out. Between Mateo and Torres, if one of them turns out to be above average while the other is a bust, you should probably be thankful. Most of these guys don't work out.
Someone can always move to 2B or 3B (although you really want more pop from 3B than we've gotten in recent years)
Happ may end up being better than Schwarber
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Has been playing some second this year. I wish we were getting Scwarber
I would love his swing at Yankee stadium.
Happ may end up being better than Schwarber
Sell them all!!!
If it were to expand, it seems Soler has been mentioned. Going back to the Cubs the names are all over the place..Beltran, Gardner, Eovaldi, Pineda have all been thrown out there on Twitter so who knows.
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If they feel they want to realistically compete next season then keep Miller but you need to add a bat in the offseason and I want Encarnation for DH/1b. I know he will cost us but we have ZERO power with Beltran gone Big E has power.
If you don't sign a big bat then its probably best to sell Miller with his value so high.
well isnt bird essentially a big bat we will add next season?
As for Bird, I've been following Bird since he was drafted and his success didn't surprise anyone who read what the Yankees thought of him.
I get that, though I would point out that if he started next year at AA he could easily be up at the tail end of next year. It's not like he's in rookie ball. But I think what people miss on this is that he is immediately a significant trade chip, so that even if he doesn't have an MLB AB until 2018 he could headline a deal for another piece we need as early as this offseason.
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for A prospects. Even with him being a top prospect and assuming for a meteoric rise through the minors, that is, at best, 2-3 years from now. They should be able to get top prospects in AAA for their chips.
I get that, though I would point out that if he started next year at AA he could easily be up at the tail end of next year. It's not like he's in rookie ball. But I think what people miss on this is that he is immediately a significant trade chip, so that even if he doesn't have an MLB AB until 2018 he could headline a deal for another piece we need as early as this offseason.
Exactly. The flexibility is there whether:
1- Didi continues to be amazing and stays on the team for awhile. Then he'd switch positions - hopefully easy to do due to his athleticism
2- Didi regresses. Then he can take over
3- Yankees are contending somehow and this guy isn't ready. Then he's a great trade chip.
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Same applies to Mateo
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for A prospects. Even with him being a top prospect and assuming for a meteoric rise through the minors, that is, at best, 2-3 years from now. They should be able to get top prospects in AAA for their chips.
I get that, though I would point out that if he started next year at AA he could easily be up at the tail end of next year. It's not like he's in rookie ball. But I think what people miss on this is that he is immediately a significant trade chip, so that even if he doesn't have an MLB AB until 2018 he could headline a deal for another piece we need as early as this offseason.
Exactly. The flexibility is there whether:
1- Didi continues to be amazing and stays on the team for awhile. Then he'd switch positions - hopefully easy to do due to his athleticism
2- Didi regresses. Then he can take over
3- Yankees are contending somehow and this guy isn't ready. Then he's a great trade chip.
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Same applies to Mateo
He = Torres
Hehe. + Dante Bichette as cornerstones!
As for Bird, I've been following Bird since he was drafted and his success didn't surprise anyone who read what the Yankees thought of him.
Candelario was actually born in NYC. Moved back to DR because his dad opened a training facility. Utility player upside. Might be a very solid one at that.
#Yankees plan is deal Chapman, play next 4-5 days, see if make inroads in race. If so, will go for it. If not, Miller, Beltran, etc in play
Said Epstein made it clear Schwarber was not in play, even for Miller.
Sherman - ( New Window )
Warren will be a good get. He's been bad this year but he can provide depth in BP and switch to a starter if need-be. Yankees desparately need some guys just to eat innings
Along with Warren and Torres, hearing Billy McKinney and one other going to the Yankees.
McKinney is a AA OF, one of their better prospects. Not a power guy, not a huge speed guy, but his contact and patience tools are highly regarded.