But I'm burned out and turned off to the super hero movies. Hollywood has way over done these types of movies in recent years.
Hollywood has been cranking out superhero movies in one form or another for 100 years. As long as they keep making money, they'll keep cranking them out.
But I'm burned out and turned off to the super hero movies. Hollywood has way over done these types of movies in recent years.
As long as they keep pulling in close to or over a billion dollars a pop, you're going to keep seeing them. Batman v Superman did about $875 million globally, and was trashed by critics. The studios basically print money with these things.
The fad will never end which sucks. So many good projects aren't being funded because budgets are going to comic book films. The only way it stops is if people stop going (not happening).
When a movie comes out that I don't want to see, Â
The fad will never end which sucks. So many good projects aren't being funded because budgets are going to comic book films. The only way it stops is if people stop going (not happening).
It's not a fad. It's a genre that has been around almost as long as movies have been made, although it's only been in the last 40 years or so that these movies have been upgraded from serials and "B" pictures to the "A" list, primarily because of the advances in special effects.
the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
What good projects are being skipped?
How do people keep track of all the comic book stories ... Â
the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
What good projects are being skipped?
Too many to count. I read all the time how studios won't fund a ton of original concepts with top writers and directors due to budgets and not wanting to give up creative control.
RE: How do people keep track of all the comic book stories ... Â
the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
What good projects are being skipped?
Too many to count. I read all the time how studios won't fund a ton of original concepts with top writers and directors due to budgets and not wanting to give up creative control.
Making movies is a business, so business decisions have to be made. Whether it's comic book movies, war movies, gangster movies, disaster movies, secret agent movies, westerns, rom-coms, horror, or whatever, if a studio thinks it will make money, they'll fund it. Their stockholders should expect no less. If that means letting someone's "original concept" (whatever that may be) whither and die, so be it. It's a business, not a charity.
the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
What good projects are being skipped?
Too many to count. I read all the time how studios won't fund a ton of original concepts with top writers and directors due to budgets and not wanting to give up creative control.
Making movies is a business, so business decisions have to be made. Whether it's comic book movies, war movies, gangster movies, disaster movies, secret agent movies, westerns, rom-coms, horror, or whatever, if a studio thinks it will make money, they'll fund it. Their stockholders should expect no less. If that means letting someone's "original concept" (whatever that may be) whither and die, so be it. It's a business, not a charity.
I don't really need a lecture on why these movies continue to be made when I already alluded to it earlier in the thread and the answer is quite obvious, Business 101. I'm allowed to discuss my displeasure with these projects which I guess piss people off from time to time, sorry if one of them is you.
Some of these projects have lots to look forward to (mostly those produced by Netflix, a much better platform than these awful 2 hour CGI fests), and some are brutal (anything Zack Snyder). But there's just so damn many now that its tiresome to a lot of people. I am going to continue doing what i've been doing the last couple years and focus on the independent film sector as its producing infinitely higher quality movies these days, even in the scifi genre.
Fine. But don't blame them alone for any perceived slights to other areas of film-making just because you don't care for them. Lots of people do, which is why they continue to be profitable and continue to get made. Broadcast TV has always capitalized on this and now Netflix is, too. I'm sorry this bothers you. If you don't like them, don't watch them, but don't bitch about them, either. What's the point?
there are some I like. I don't simply "hate comic book movie", I hate that there are so many comic book movies. I love David Ayer, but I know he's been neutered by Warner Brothers who wants full control, so i'm almost certain we don't get a David Ayer movie there.
They aren't solely responsible for the under-funding of better projects, but they play absolutely play role. I also hate that good actors like Hugh Jackman keep making them, and don't get involved in better projects. Outside of his last one which will be an R rating, the entire Wolverine character has been out of character, and a waste. I'm sure its an amazing paycheck, but the character has been beaten to death, I can't believe he still does them.
I trust Marvel Studios and their vision for these characters Â
People really need to stop clumping in all "Comic Movies" together. Marvel Studios has put out a greater quality of films compared to....
Warner Bros - DC Universe (Superman\Batman\Green Lantern)
FOX - X-Men\Fantastic Four\Daredevil
Sony - Spiderman\GhostRider
A lot of people gave Marvel Studios negative feedback when they announced the production of films based on 2nd tier superheroes like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man. Although they knocked both out of the park. Not to mention Dr. Strange film looks visually amazing.
At this point with their track record, I simply trust Marvel Studios to put out good film, including this upcoming Captain Marvel production.
mainly because both are so diffident than the rest. Everything going on with the Avengers and the larger MCU plot is beat. I'm guessing all the films will tie in at somepoint, but I like the stand alone stuff much much more.
Sony, Fox and WB are light years behind from top to bottom. I still don't understand how Snyder hasn't been completely fired from every project he was a part of.
there are some I like. I don't simply "hate comic book movie", I hate that there are so many comic book movies. I love David Ayer, but I know he's been neutered by Warner Brothers who wants full control, so i'm almost certain we don't get a David Ayer movie there.
They aren't solely responsible for the under-funding of better projects, but they play absolutely play role. I also hate that good actors like Hugh Jackman keep making them, and don't get involved in better projects. Outside of his last one which will be an R rating, the entire Wolverine character has been out of character, and a waste. I'm sure its an amazing paycheck, but the character has been beaten to death, I can't believe he still does them.
Playing the Wolverine didn't prevent Hugh Jackman from appearing on the stage in The Boy from Oz, Les Miserables, or Oklahoma, with a number of award nominations and wins. Regardless, maybe you think the Wolverine has been beaten to death, but I'll bet most fans don't. And maybe his playing the Wolverine is like Vin Diesel appearing in all of those Fast & Furious movies. The money he makes allows him to finance, produce, write, and direct his own independent projects.
As for David Ayer, he wrote and directed the soon-to-be released Suicide Squad. The studio has gone overboard promoting it. If that's your idea of neutering him, I disagree. If it does as well as they hope it will he'll be able to write his own ticket...or tickets.
Anyway, it's like this...I don't like soccer. Should I be upset that ESPN spends what seems to me to be an inordinate amount of time covering soccer? No, because I recognize that it's popular and profitable. Ditto for FS1 and NASCAR (and auto racing in general). Why people like to watch cars driving around in a circle is beyond me, but, again, it's popular and profitable. I don't like hockey, either. Should I go on hockey threads and tell people why? Nope. I just ignore them.
My advice to you would be to ignore comic book movie threads, since clearly they strike a nerve with you. Sorry if that sounds like another lecture, but if you wouldn't go to a comic book movie just to stand up and tell the audience that movies like this are sucking the life out of more worthy projects, then you shouldn't come on threads like this and do the same. You have the right to do it, but to me it's just bad form.
i enjoy a good discussion. I'll be right there on a Dr. Strange thread because its a completely different offering in the genre with a great cast. And i'll make fun of Batman v Superman as well.
As for your comparisons, i get your point, but I don't hate comic book movies, I hate a chunk of them and enjoy others as I've mentioned several times. I hate hockey and never post on those, which fits what you are talking about more accurately.
i enjoy a good discussion. I'll be right there on a Dr. Strange thread because its a completely different offering in the genre with a great cast. And i'll make fun of Batman v Superman as well.
As for your comparisons, i get your point, but I don't hate comic book movies, I hate a chunk of them and enjoy others as I've mentioned several times. I hate hockey and never post on those, which fits what you are talking about more accurately.
Yay another comic book movie
UConn4523 : 7/24/2016 12:15 pm
because that's what we all need.
The fad will never end which sucks. So many good projects aren't being funded because budgets are going to comic book films. The only way it stops is if people stop going (not happening).
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i enjoy a good discussion. I'll be right there on a Dr. Strange thread because its a completely different offering in the genre with a great cast. And i'll make fun of Batman v Superman as well.
As for your comparisons, i get your point, but I don't hate comic book movies, I hate a chunk of them and enjoy others as I've mentioned several times. I hate hockey and never post on those, which fits what you are talking about more accurately.
Spoke to a few people who didn't like BvS but their opinion changed after seeing the Ultimate Edition
Fans shouldn't have to watch a new version of a movie for it to be good, they already paid $15+ to see it the first time and the studio should put out their best work. That goes for any movie from any director. I know a couple people that saw the Ultimate edition. The ones who liked the original said they liked it, those that didn't said it was a waste of even more time. I won't see it so I guess my opinion is irrelevant.
If the movie industry goes the video game route where you get 75% of the game/movie at launch and then 25% more through DLC/Bluray, then I am completely out as a fan.
Everything going on with the Avengers and the larger MCU plot is beat.
Curious to get your take on exactly what you think has been beaten to death by the MCU?
Avengers\Iron Man - While every strong first films for both franchises, their sequels while solid were just not quite up to par as the originals.
Captain America - Surprising, these three films have been the best overall series in the MCU. Plus in my opinion, Winter Soldier has been the hands down best comic related film ever.
Thor\Hulk - While not as popular or profitable as the films above, I think all three of their stand alone films were very good. Also looking forward to Thor Ragnarok next year, where some aspects of award winning Planet Hulk story-line will be played out.
Guardians of the Galaxy - Perhaps the funniest film in the MCU franchise. Great big old space adventure film that had a lot of laughs and heart to it. Looking forward to the sequel.
Ant-Man - Similar to GotG, had a lot of laughs and heart to a redemption story-line for Scott Lang. Liked the overall tone of the film and looking forward to the sequel that will also introduces the Wasp (Evangeline Lilly).
Spoke to a few people who didn't like BvS but their opinion changed after seeing the Ultimate Edition
Fans shouldn't have to watch a new version of a movie for it to be good, they already paid $15+ to see it the first time and the studio should put out their best work. That goes for any movie from any director. I know a couple people that saw the Ultimate edition. The ones who liked the original said they liked it, those that didn't said it was a waste of even more time. I won't see it so I guess my opinion is irrelevant.
If the movie industry goes the video game route where you get 75% of the game/movie at launch and then 25% more through DLC/Bluray, then I am completely out as a fan.
You're arguing extended vs theatrical releases. Seems silly. The theatrical release was 153 minutes. LOTR DVDs did the same thing.
arguing that. Ultimate is known for having a completely different feel than the original, not just an extension of the film time by X amount of minutes. Why would people be saying its so much better if it wasn't different?
arguing that. Ultimate is known for having a completely different feel than the original, not just an extension of the film time by X amount of minutes. Why would people be saying its so much better if it wasn't different?
Dr. Strange trailer looks good. Dr. Strange - ( New Window )
From what I understand, all they did was add more content, fleshed out the story. It's not like they changed things, removed Decker's voiceovers and added a unicorn dream sequence.
Not sure if you missed it but curious to get your take on my 11:53am post?
Yeah I meant to follow up. I'd say Marvel has a lot going for them in the standalone space. For me, and again I know I am in the minority, they start losing it when they combine too many characters. Civil War worked because it was still very much focused, but everything Avengers was a complete mess to me. Just too much of everything and not enough substance. Everything revolving around Thanos is the natural progressions, but will be the biggest downfall.
Ant Man was really good, definitely surprised me. Captain America and Iron Man I really like as well; they are all very much human and the stories are adaptable to a large screen. When combining that with Thor/Thanos, etc it just doesn't work.
As for upcoming stuff, I'm really interested in Dr. Strange as it will open up a new world for Marvel. It will be less popular, but they have the cast and Director (who's horror-ish background is really unique for this project) to pull off the mystique of comic books that's yet to be captured (IMO).
Captain Marvel was a dude for most of the characters existence. The original Captain Marvel was Mar-Vell, but he died and now Carol Danvers, formerly Ms. Marvel, is Captain Marvel.
be going into a phase where the comic movies will start dying off soon. They seem to be fooling around with these characters now to be politically correct and most folks just do not care. They just want action and violence.
there are some I like. I don't simply "hate comic book movie", I hate that there are so many comic book movies. I love David Ayer, but I know he's been neutered by Warner Brothers who wants full control, so i'm almost certain we don't get a David Ayer movie there.
“Two years ago Suicide Squad was a tertiary [DC property]. No one knew anything about it. It was a cool little playground, and I was going to go make my movie. Now it’s like the hype bus. All of the attention has swung onto it, and it has to carry a lot more weight than it was ever intended to. I think it can sustain it. But it’s a lot of pressure. You definitely feel the pressure”, says Ayer.
be going into a phase where the comic movies will start dying off soon. They seem to be fooling around with these characters now to be politically correct and most folks just do not care. They just want action and violence.
I think you have no clue wha....No, no. I KNOW you have no clue what you're talking about.
Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans retire, it will be very tough for the MCU to maintain their fan loyalty.
Right now the Marvel brand is so popular, they can do nothing wrong. Not only do they have the stranglehold on superhero movies people actually want to go see, they also have an ABC TV series, an upcoming FX series, 4 separate Netflix Series (5 once The Punisher gets made) and an eventual Defenders series. To suggest that loyalty will wain if/when Downey Jr. and Evans leaves is just ignorance.
there are some I like. I don't simply "hate comic book movie", I hate that there are so many comic book movies. I love David Ayer, but I know he's been neutered by Warner Brothers who wants full control, so i'm almost certain we don't get a David Ayer movie there.
“Two years ago Suicide Squad was a tertiary [DC property]. No one knew anything about it. It was a cool little playground, and I was going to go make my movie. Now it’s like the hype bus. All of the attention has swung onto it, and it has to carry a lot more weight than it was ever intended to. I think it can sustain it. But it’s a lot of pressure. You definitely feel the pressure”, says Ayer.
You can quote a director and believe what you want, no different than a head coach speaking about something after a game.
I really like Ayer, but this doesn't look like an Ayer movie, it looks like a WB movie that Ayer is directing within certain guidelines. This will be his first non-R rated film, and also his first with a huge budget. He's never needed a big budget and that gives me pause because his entire career has been "less is more". I don't think it will be terrible, but it doesn't look very good either.
Hollywood has been cranking out superhero movies in one form or another for 100 years. As long as they keep making money, they'll keep cranking them out.
As long as they keep pulling in close to or over a billion dollars a pop, you're going to keep seeing them. Batman v Superman did about $875 million globally, and was trashed by critics. The studios basically print money with these things.
The fad will never end which sucks. So many good projects aren't being funded because budgets are going to comic book films. The only way it stops is if people stop going (not happening).
What a brilliant concept!
The fad will never end which sucks. So many good projects aren't being funded because budgets are going to comic book films. The only way it stops is if people stop going (not happening).
It's not a fad. It's a genre that has been around almost as long as movies have been made, although it's only been in the last 40 years or so that these movies have been upgraded from serials and "B" pictures to the "A" list, primarily because of the advances in special effects.
What good projects are being skipped?
The only comic book movie that has piqued my interest in over 15 years is Wonder Woman.
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the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
What good projects are being skipped?
Too many to count. I read all the time how studios won't fund a ton of original concepts with top writers and directors due to budgets and not wanting to give up creative control.
The only comic book movie that has piqued my interest in over 15 years is Wonder Woman.
keep the universes separate: Marvel vs DC and its a lot easier to follow
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... that have been made into movies? It's insane. I can't even figure out how many times Batman, Superman, and Spiderman have been rebooted.
The only comic book movie that has piqued my interest in over 15 years is Wonder Woman.
keep the universes separate: Marvel vs DC and its a lot easier to follow
and then X-men/Fantastic Four is Fox property
Spiderman is/was SONY property
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the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
What good projects are being skipped?
Too many to count. I read all the time how studios won't fund a ton of original concepts with top writers and directors due to budgets and not wanting to give up creative control.
Making movies is a business, so business decisions have to be made. Whether it's comic book movies, war movies, gangster movies, disaster movies, secret agent movies, westerns, rom-coms, horror, or whatever, if a studio thinks it will make money, they'll fund it. Their stockholders should expect no less. If that means letting someone's "original concept" (whatever that may be) whither and die, so be it. It's a business, not a charity.
Shes formerly Ms Marvel
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the use of the word fad is a bit much but it's not far off at this point. It's an over saturated genre with no end in sight. The only reason I even care is because good projects are being skipped by these same studios that have to have a Spider-Man 8 because it's guaranteed money. As a big movie fan, it sucks.
What good projects are being skipped?
Too many to count. I read all the time how studios won't fund a ton of original concepts with top writers and directors due to budgets and not wanting to give up creative control.
Making movies is a business, so business decisions have to be made. Whether it's comic book movies, war movies, gangster movies, disaster movies, secret agent movies, westerns, rom-coms, horror, or whatever, if a studio thinks it will make money, they'll fund it. Their stockholders should expect no less. If that means letting someone's "original concept" (whatever that may be) whither and die, so be it. It's a business, not a charity.
I don't really need a lecture on why these movies continue to be made when I already alluded to it earlier in the thread and the answer is quite obvious, Business 101. I'm allowed to discuss my displeasure with these projects which I guess piss people off from time to time, sorry if one of them is you.
Some of these projects have lots to look forward to (mostly those produced by Netflix, a much better platform than these awful 2 hour CGI fests), and some are brutal (anything Zack Snyder). But there's just so damn many now that its tiresome to a lot of people. I am going to continue doing what i've been doing the last couple years and focus on the independent film sector as its producing infinitely higher quality movies these days, even in the scifi genre.
They aren't solely responsible for the under-funding of better projects, but they play absolutely play role. I also hate that good actors like Hugh Jackman keep making them, and don't get involved in better projects. Outside of his last one which will be an R rating, the entire Wolverine character has been out of character, and a waste. I'm sure its an amazing paycheck, but the character has been beaten to death, I can't believe he still does them.
Warner Bros - DC Universe (Superman\Batman\Green Lantern)
FOX - X-Men\Fantastic Four\Daredevil
Sony - Spiderman\GhostRider
A lot of people gave Marvel Studios negative feedback when they announced the production of films based on 2nd tier superheroes like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man. Although they knocked both out of the park. Not to mention Dr. Strange film looks visually amazing.
At this point with their track record, I simply trust Marvel Studios to put out good film, including this upcoming Captain Marvel production.
Sony, Fox and WB are light years behind from top to bottom. I still don't understand how Snyder hasn't been completely fired from every project he was a part of.
They aren't solely responsible for the under-funding of better projects, but they play absolutely play role. I also hate that good actors like Hugh Jackman keep making them, and don't get involved in better projects. Outside of his last one which will be an R rating, the entire Wolverine character has been out of character, and a waste. I'm sure its an amazing paycheck, but the character has been beaten to death, I can't believe he still does them.
Playing the Wolverine didn't prevent Hugh Jackman from appearing on the stage in The Boy from Oz, Les Miserables, or Oklahoma, with a number of award nominations and wins. Regardless, maybe you think the Wolverine has been beaten to death, but I'll bet most fans don't. And maybe his playing the Wolverine is like Vin Diesel appearing in all of those Fast & Furious movies. The money he makes allows him to finance, produce, write, and direct his own independent projects.
As for David Ayer, he wrote and directed the soon-to-be released Suicide Squad. The studio has gone overboard promoting it. If that's your idea of neutering him, I disagree. If it does as well as they hope it will he'll be able to write his own ticket...or tickets.
Anyway, it's like this...I don't like soccer. Should I be upset that ESPN spends what seems to me to be an inordinate amount of time covering soccer? No, because I recognize that it's popular and profitable. Ditto for FS1 and NASCAR (and auto racing in general). Why people like to watch cars driving around in a circle is beyond me, but, again, it's popular and profitable. I don't like hockey, either. Should I go on hockey threads and tell people why? Nope. I just ignore them.
My advice to you would be to ignore comic book movie threads, since clearly they strike a nerve with you. Sorry if that sounds like another lecture, but if you wouldn't go to a comic book movie just to stand up and tell the audience that movies like this are sucking the life out of more worthy projects, then you shouldn't come on threads like this and do the same. You have the right to do it, but to me it's just bad form.
As for your comparisons, i get your point, but I don't hate comic book movies, I hate a chunk of them and enjoy others as I've mentioned several times. I hate hockey and never post on those, which fits what you are talking about more accurately.
As for your comparisons, i get your point, but I don't hate comic book movies, I hate a chunk of them and enjoy others as I've mentioned several times. I hate hockey and never post on those, which fits what you are talking about more accurately.
We should start our own anti-hockey threads.
Oh, just shut up.
UConn4523 : 7/24/2016 12:15 pm
because that's what we all need.
The fad will never end which sucks. So many good projects aren't being funded because budgets are going to comic book films. The only way it stops is if people stop going (not happening).
i enjoy a good discussion. I'll be right there on a Dr. Strange thread because its a completely different offering in the genre with a great cast. And i'll make fun of Batman v Superman as well.
As for your comparisons, i get your point, but I don't hate comic book movies, I hate a chunk of them and enjoy others as I've mentioned several times. I hate hockey and never post on those, which fits what you are talking about more accurately.
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Oh, just shut up.
Ok?..
Fans shouldn't have to watch a new version of a movie for it to be good, they already paid $15+ to see it the first time and the studio should put out their best work. That goes for any movie from any director. I know a couple people that saw the Ultimate edition. The ones who liked the original said they liked it, those that didn't said it was a waste of even more time. I won't see it so I guess my opinion is irrelevant.
If the movie industry goes the video game route where you get 75% of the game/movie at launch and then 25% more through DLC/Bluray, then I am completely out as a fan.
Curious to get your take on exactly what you think has been beaten to death by the MCU?
Avengers\Iron Man - While every strong first films for both franchises, their sequels while solid were just not quite up to par as the originals.
Captain America - Surprising, these three films have been the best overall series in the MCU. Plus in my opinion, Winter Soldier has been the hands down best comic related film ever.
Thor\Hulk - While not as popular or profitable as the films above, I think all three of their stand alone films were very good. Also looking forward to Thor Ragnarok next year, where some aspects of award winning Planet Hulk story-line will be played out.
Guardians of the Galaxy - Perhaps the funniest film in the MCU franchise. Great big old space adventure film that had a lot of laughs and heart to it. Looking forward to the sequel.
Ant-Man - Similar to GotG, had a lot of laughs and heart to a redemption story-line for Scott Lang. Liked the overall tone of the film and looking forward to the sequel that will also introduces the Wasp (Evangeline Lilly).
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Spoke to a few people who didn't like BvS but their opinion changed after seeing the Ultimate Edition
Fans shouldn't have to watch a new version of a movie for it to be good, they already paid $15+ to see it the first time and the studio should put out their best work. That goes for any movie from any director. I know a couple people that saw the Ultimate edition. The ones who liked the original said they liked it, those that didn't said it was a waste of even more time. I won't see it so I guess my opinion is irrelevant.
If the movie industry goes the video game route where you get 75% of the game/movie at launch and then 25% more through DLC/Bluray, then I am completely out as a fan.
You're arguing extended vs theatrical releases. Seems silly. The theatrical release was 153 minutes. LOTR DVDs did the same thing.
Dr. Strange trailer looks good.
Dr. Strange - ( New Window )
Dr. Strange trailer looks good. Dr. Strange - ( New Window )
From what I understand, all they did was add more content, fleshed out the story. It's not like they changed things, removed Decker's voiceovers and added a unicorn dream sequence.
Yeah I meant to follow up. I'd say Marvel has a lot going for them in the standalone space. For me, and again I know I am in the minority, they start losing it when they combine too many characters. Civil War worked because it was still very much focused, but everything Avengers was a complete mess to me. Just too much of everything and not enough substance. Everything revolving around Thanos is the natural progressions, but will be the biggest downfall.
Ant Man was really good, definitely surprised me. Captain America and Iron Man I really like as well; they are all very much human and the stories are adaptable to a large screen. When combining that with Thor/Thanos, etc it just doesn't work.
As for upcoming stuff, I'm really interested in Dr. Strange as it will open up a new world for Marvel. It will be less popular, but they have the cast and Director (who's horror-ish background is really unique for this project) to pull off the mystique of comic books that's yet to be captured (IMO).
Captain Marvel was a dude for most of the characters existence. The original Captain Marvel was Mar-Vell, but he died and now Carol Danvers, formerly Ms. Marvel, is Captain Marvel.
“Two years ago Suicide Squad was a tertiary [DC property]. No one knew anything about it. It was a cool little playground, and I was going to go make my movie. Now it’s like the hype bus. All of the attention has swung onto it, and it has to carry a lot more weight than it was ever intended to. I think it can sustain it. But it’s a lot of pressure. You definitely feel the pressure”, says Ayer.
I think you have no clue wha....No, no. I KNOW you have no clue what you're talking about.
Right now the Marvel brand is so popular, they can do nothing wrong. Not only do they have the stranglehold on superhero movies people actually want to go see, they also have an ABC TV series, an upcoming FX series, 4 separate Netflix Series (5 once The Punisher gets made) and an eventual Defenders series. To suggest that loyalty will wain if/when Downey Jr. and Evans leaves is just ignorance.
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there are some I like. I don't simply "hate comic book movie", I hate that there are so many comic book movies. I love David Ayer, but I know he's been neutered by Warner Brothers who wants full control, so i'm almost certain we don't get a David Ayer movie there.
“Two years ago Suicide Squad was a tertiary [DC property]. No one knew anything about it. It was a cool little playground, and I was going to go make my movie. Now it’s like the hype bus. All of the attention has swung onto it, and it has to carry a lot more weight than it was ever intended to. I think it can sustain it. But it’s a lot of pressure. You definitely feel the pressure”, says Ayer.
You can quote a director and believe what you want, no different than a head coach speaking about something after a game.
I really like Ayer, but this doesn't look like an Ayer movie, it looks like a WB movie that Ayer is directing within certain guidelines. This will be his first non-R rated film, and also his first with a huge budget. He's never needed a big budget and that gives me pause because his entire career has been "less is more". I don't think it will be terrible, but it doesn't look very good either.