losing to guys like Fernandez is going to happen, need to start winning the games we have decided advantage. Take this series, get going on this pre-deadline homestand, and add some reinforcements.
we've seen that he's still got his arm and that was a vintage triple, even though he's not nearly as fast as he used to be. He can play all over the IF, might eventually play some CF, while probably posting a .700+ OPS at leadoff. I'd be very willing to wager he's still a better offensive player than Denard Spann, with more defensive versatility, and instead of costing $31M, we have him at the minimum.
The Mets should unload Grandy in the offseason. I dont see him playing any better next year
Just depends how he adjusts to the 2 hole the rest of the season. Last year he was our most consistent player all year and our 2nd best player in the postseason, by a good margin. He's had really bad luck this year with balls in play (40 points below last year and his career average) and he's still had a decent season. 1 year / 15M isn't prohibitive if he's producing, if he's not then it would make sense to re-allocate the resources towards Cespedes.
Cabrera fails us again. Probably the biggest culprit for our hitting in scoring position woes this year. Too bad. Bat that fucker 8th Terry where he belongs!
Is even going to have a big role on this team? I highly doubt whoever we bring in is better than Reed or Robles. Blevins is an excellent LOOGY. Even if Bastardo has struggled this year his numbers against lefties are amazing. He would make a good second LOOGY if we decided to only use him in that role. We seem pretty well covered. I guess a vet like Joe Smith would give the pen another look.
Is even going to have a big role on this team? I highly doubt whoever we bring in is better than Reed or Robles. Blevins is an excellent LOOGY. Even if Bastardo has struggled this year his numbers against lefties are amazing. He would make a good second LOOGY if we decided to only use him in that role. We seem pretty well covered. I guess a vet like Joe Smith would give the pen another look.
We need someone to replace Lugo and maybe Goeddel. Hows Edgin doing in AAA?
series against St. Louis coming up. There's going to be a ton of emotion and sellout crowds at Citi Field this weekend. Coming into the weekend with some momentum can really help springboard things.
Is even going to have a big role on this team? I highly doubt whoever we bring in is better than Reed or Robles. Blevins is an excellent LOOGY. Even if Bastardo has struggled this year his numbers against lefties are amazing. He would make a good second LOOGY if we decided to only use him in that role. We seem pretty well covered. I guess a vet like Joe Smith would give the pen another look.
We need someone to replace Lugo and maybe Goeddel. Hows Edgin doing in AAA?
I like Goeddel as the 6th or 7th option. I agree about Lugo but Henderson should be back soon. Also, we probably need a long man. I'd almost like Gilmartin up in that role. Edgin has been pitching well but his velocity is down. He's also more a LOOGY. If we want a full inning crossover guy I'd like to see either Smoker or Sewald. Plenty of options though. Also if we acquired a Cashner, it would push Verrett back to the pen.
2-3 from the Cardinals. 3-4 from the Rockies. Split the Yanks. Win 2-3 from Detroit. Do that and the tough stretch is over and we can really make our move, hopefully with a few reinforcements.
Gutsy performance by Matz who didn't have pinpoint control, excellent work by the late inning bullpen per usual, and how about that guy who everyone said can't play CF robbing them on the first play of the game?
Cabrera needs tomorrow off. After he failed in the top 8th he refused to take a practice grounder bottom of inning He needs to watch a game to remove his head from his ass and get the mojo back.
this is as good of a rundown as any ball Cespedes has gotten to. Unbelievable how underrated Conforto's athleticism was in scouting reports. Conforto Diving Grab in CF - ( New Window )
Gutsy performance by Matz who didn't have pinpoint control, excellent work by the late inning bullpen per usual, and how about that guy who everyone said can't play CF robbing them on the first play of the game?
Cabrera needs tomorrow off. After he failed in the top 8th he refused to take a practice grounder bottom of inning He needs to watch a game to remove his head from his ass and get the mojo back.
He know she is not going to get to any rounders so why waste time practicing?
But in all rseriousness, you would like to see your vets model better behavior for the younger guys, yet as a fan I like it when a guy is emotional about making a big out--shows he cares
says there appears to be some traction. Smith + TDA as the basis of a package makes a ton of sense, though obviously if we can give up something lesser like Herrera, Flores or Cecchini that's better. Lucroy is a great fit for what this team needs (tough to strike out RBI guy).
says there appears to be some traction. Smith + TDA as the basis of a package makes a ton of sense, though obviously if we can give up something lesser like Herrera, Flores or Cecchini that's better. Lucroy is a great fit for what this team needs (tough to strike out RBI guy).
definitely a red flag. Hopefully it's just the byproduct of being on a bad offensive team (4th worst in the NL)? Though, Milwaukee has actually scored 20 more runs than we have this year.
I'd have no issue whatsoever giving up TdA. He has the talent to be every bit the player Lucroy is but he's inconsistent and injury prone. It's almost a lock that Lucroy is the better player the next 2 seasons, which is our window. The 2nd piece is obviously the variable. Rosario and Wheeler are totally off limits. It would hurt to give up Smith now that he's having a power breakout, unless they don't think he's a hard worker. Hopefully they can package Herrera + Nimmo, or something like that instead.
Brewers org is empty at 1B and Dom Smith is putting together a pretty good case to be one of the top prospects in the minors (he was Law's highest ranked 1B on the top 50 and obviously not that far from the MLB). Herrera or Flores would probably be their starting 2B tomorrow. Nimmo might even start in CF over what they currently have (Kirk). Lagares definitely would. The Brewers can return TdA and fill 1-2 other positions with cost controlled players wherever they choose, only question is how much another team is willing to play vs. what we are.
Having not played 3B in a decade and having never played 1B, Braun has nowhere to play here and he's got $80M left on his deal. No chance the Mets take him on, even if the Brewers include a big chunk of salary.
RE: They have them - question is what's the right price
Brewers org is empty at 1B and Dom Smith is putting together a pretty good case to be one of the top prospects in the minors (he was Law's highest ranked 1B on the top 50 and obviously not that far from the MLB). Herrera or Flores would probably be their starting 2B tomorrow. Nimmo might even start in CF over what they currently have (Kirk). Lagares definitely would. The Brewers can return TdA and fill 1-2 other positions with cost controlled players wherever they choose, only question is how much another team is willing to play vs. what we are.
Having not played 3B in a decade and having never played 1B, Braun has nowhere to play here and he's got $80M left on his deal. No chance the Mets take him on, even if the Brewers include a big chunk of salary.
Cespedes is playing LF the rest of his Mets tenure, that is clear.
So if he opts out, and you know he will, why not Braun, who isn't much different than Cespedes (half an fwar?) but will actually possibly cost less. Especially if the Brewers eat some cash.
and if Cespedes opts out, the Mets can offer him a QO and get a pick.
There is no question about it, down the stretch Braun and Cespedes in the middle of the lineup with be the best offensive punch the Mets have had since 2006.
Literally the only feasible spot would be RF which means they send Granderson back to Milwaukee. That's a slight upgrade based on how they're both playing this year, but it seems like a big stretch that the Mets would do that given their aversion to taking on long term contracts.
no signs of being the catcher of the future. His approach at the plate is as bad as it gets and though he has a quicker release than TdA, he doesn't throw out enough base stealers nor does he deter them from running with any kind of regularity.
no signs of being the catcher of the future. His approach at the plate is as bad as it gets and though he has a quicker release than TdA, he doesn't throw out enough base stealers nor does he deter them from running with any kind of regularity.
Plawecki calls a terrible game behind the plate, which neutralizes his quicker release
no signs of being the catcher of the future. His approach at the plate is as bad as it gets and though he has a quicker release than TdA, he doesn't throw out enough base stealers nor does he deter them from running with any kind of regularity.
Plawecki calls a terrible game behind the plate, which neutralizes his quicker release
Shecky may ask you to take this conversation out to the parking log.
Literally the only feasible spot would be RF which means they send Granderson back to Milwaukee. That's a slight upgrade based on how they're both playing this year, but it seems like a big stretch that the Mets would do that given their aversion to taking on long term contracts.
Cespy sucks it up and plays CF or Grandy does. If not, play Braun at 3B, they're talking about Reyes playing CF, desperate times call for desperate measures.
the Mets can win with this rotation in the playoffs, even without Harvey, but they have to get there, and not with the offense this anemic and there isn't another Cespedes to add nor the deal that makes sense to acquire him. No Duda, no Wright, no Murphy from last year. Duda may come back.
in good news, Wheeler to throw to batters this week. Warthen said he'd be on schedule to make his first rehab start 10 days after throwing to live batters.
But I would love the outfield to have cespedes and then rotation of grandy lagaras and conforto. Put Braun at 3rd (assuming he feels he can still play there), move Reyes to second or short and either bench walker or Cabrera or send walker to first. That lineup would frankly be awesome
But I would love the outfield to have cespedes and then rotation of grandy lagaras and conforto. Put Braun at 3rd (assuming he feels he can still play there), move Reyes to second or short and either bench walker or Cabrera or send walker to first. That lineup would frankly be awesome
I could get on board with this.
No way Braun goes to 3rd - he hasn't played there in a decade
and he was moved off for a reason - he only played 112 games there his first season and had 26 errors. His fielding percentage was under 90%. A decade later at age 32 I don't think revisiting that is an option.
There may be some logic to Braun being a Cespedes replacement in the offseason, but right now there is no way it happens. If the Brewers deal him in the next week it's because someone gives up an asset for him, and that team is highly unlikely to be the Mets.
we all know how much Sandy has loved Zobrist over the years, now imagine that guy playing catcher, where we've currently gotten almost nothing thus far this year, and signed reasonably for this year and next. He'd be a big add. I totally understand not wanting to deal Smith, I'm leaning more and more in that direction.
I predict if we get him it's a package along the lines of TdA, Nimmo, & Herrera for Lucroy and 1 of their relievers.
Same rationale as the Gary Carter trade. You've put the success of the team in the hands of a young, talented pitching staff. Give them a veteran catcher who can also hit. dUNNO is 27, ALWAYS injured. If the Brewers want to take a chance on him suddenly staying healthy, do it before they change their minds.
Just depends how he adjusts to the 2 hole the rest of the season. Last year he was our most consistent player all year and our 2nd best player in the postseason, by a good margin. He's had really bad luck this year with balls in play (40 points below last year and his career average) and he's still had a decent season. 1 year / 15M isn't prohibitive if he's producing, if he's not then it would make sense to re-allocate the resources towards Cespedes.
Hell of a job by Matz today. No offense but Matz stepped up. Can Reed and Familia shut the door?
I honestly think Ces isn't close to 100%. He looks banged up.
Robles is really turning into a nice player.
damn it overturned
Easy on the .500 team. We are 7 games over and this is our toughest stretch of the season. For all the shit the Mets get, I think people forget that.
We need someone to replace Lugo and maybe Goeddel. Hows Edgin doing in AAA?
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Is even going to have a big role on this team? I highly doubt whoever we bring in is better than Reed or Robles. Blevins is an excellent LOOGY. Even if Bastardo has struggled this year his numbers against lefties are amazing. He would make a good second LOOGY if we decided to only use him in that role. We seem pretty well covered. I guess a vet like Joe Smith would give the pen another look.
We need someone to replace Lugo and maybe Goeddel. Hows Edgin doing in AAA?
I like Goeddel as the 6th or 7th option. I agree about Lugo but Henderson should be back soon. Also, we probably need a long man. I'd almost like Gilmartin up in that role. Edgin has been pitching well but his velocity is down. He's also more a LOOGY. If we want a full inning crossover guy I'd like to see either Smoker or Sewald. Plenty of options though. Also if we acquired a Cashner, it would push Verrett back to the pen.
Cant walk him to bring up ozuna as the tying run.
GREAT job striking him out
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You have the damn base open. Puts a force on as well.
Cant walk him to bring up ozuna as the tying run.
GREAT job striking him out
In retrospect, yes! lol
and Piazza gets his number retired at Shea
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Trading deadline and Training Camp kicks off over the same weekend? YES PLEASE!
and Piazza gets his number retired at Shea
Yup Yup. And Ill be at a family wedding all weekend. lol.
Maybe one big player. Cashner and Smith can be had for virtually nothing.
A fine drama free performance by Mr Houdini
I expect him to be fairly active again and wouldn't be surprised at all if he's working on something stealthy behind the scenes.
Cabrera needs tomorrow off. After he failed in the top 8th he refused to take a practice grounder bottom of inning He needs to watch a game to remove his head from his ass and get the mojo back.
1. Carlos Martinez (their best this season) vs Syndergaard
2. Jaime Garcia vs Colon
3. Adam Wainwright vs Verrett
So the pitching matchups favor St Louis, it is imperative we win game 1!
top 9th
Conforto Diving Grab in CF - ( New Window )
It iwll be ironic considering what happened to Storen last season following the Papelbon trade
I always thought he was one of those get in a groove type relievers where when they're "on" they're really tough to hit.
he just hasn't been in one for a while. Maybe Warthen can fix him.
I'd rather Storen than Clippard and shouldn't cost nearly as much for Storen.
Thomas Szapucki has 5 scoreless innings with 8 strikeouts so far in his Brooklyn Cyclones debut. They lead 1-0 on a Desmond Lindsay RBI.
I was hoping for de Aza, but Ty Kelly is fine too, even Eric Campbell.
Cabrera needs tomorrow off. After he failed in the top 8th he refused to take a practice grounder bottom of inning He needs to watch a game to remove his head from his ass and get the mojo back.
He know she is not going to get to any rounders so why waste time practicing?
But in all rseriousness, you would like to see your vets model better behavior for the younger guys, yet as a fan I like it when a guy is emotional about making a big out--shows he cares
I'd much rather give up Cecchini than Smith.
And I'd be a lot happier if I knew we were willing to keep Lucroy long-term.
I'd have no issue whatsoever giving up TdA. He has the talent to be every bit the player Lucroy is but he's inconsistent and injury prone. It's almost a lock that Lucroy is the better player the next 2 seasons, which is our window. The 2nd piece is obviously the variable. Rosario and Wheeler are totally off limits. It would hurt to give up Smith now that he's having a power breakout, unless they don't think he's a hard worker. Hopefully they can package Herrera + Nimmo, or something like that instead.
Jeffress is already included in it from what I've read.
Taking Braun would be a salary dump from MIL, and they'd probably be willing to take lesser prospects (meaning further away from the majors).
I think the Mets would do it, especially with Cespedes almost certain to opt out after the season.
I don't think they have the right players to do pull it off though.
Having not played 3B in a decade and having never played 1B, Braun has nowhere to play here and he's got $80M left on his deal. No chance the Mets take him on, even if the Brewers include a big chunk of salary.
Having not played 3B in a decade and having never played 1B, Braun has nowhere to play here and he's got $80M left on his deal. No chance the Mets take him on, even if the Brewers include a big chunk of salary.
Cespedes is playing LF the rest of his Mets tenure, that is clear.
So if he opts out, and you know he will, why not Braun, who isn't much different than Cespedes (half an fwar?) but will actually possibly cost less. Especially if the Brewers eat some cash.
and if Cespedes opts out, the Mets can offer him a QO and get a pick.
There is no question about it, down the stretch Braun and Cespedes in the middle of the lineup with be the best offensive punch the Mets have had since 2006.
[quote] Pretty long in the tooth in terms of catchers. I wouldn't give up Smith and TDA for him. [/quote
Lucroy sucks the Big D and I don't mean Dallas. For Dom the Bomb and TDA? Why all the interest? Here's a big 'ole HECK NO from your Uncle Frank!
Despite his struggles, he will eventually be a .750 OPS guy with average D. He can take over Lucroy
I love TDA but it might be better to move him before another injury hits
Plawecki calls a terrible game behind the plate, which neutralizes his quicker release
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no signs of being the catcher of the future. His approach at the plate is as bad as it gets and though he has a quicker release than TdA, he doesn't throw out enough base stealers nor does he deter them from running with any kind of regularity.
Plawecki calls a terrible game behind the plate, which neutralizes his quicker release
Shecky may ask you to take this conversation out to the parking log.
Cespy sucks it up and plays CF or Grandy does. If not, play Braun at 3B, they're talking about Reyes playing CF, desperate times call for desperate measures.
the Mets can win with this rotation in the playoffs, even without Harvey, but they have to get there, and not with the offense this anemic and there isn't another Cespedes to add nor the deal that makes sense to acquire him. No Duda, no Wright, no Murphy from last year. Duda may come back.
in good news, Wheeler to throw to batters this week. Warthen said he'd be on schedule to make his first rehab start 10 days after throwing to live batters.
I could get on board with this.
There may be some logic to Braun being a Cespedes replacement in the offseason, but right now there is no way it happens. If the Brewers deal him in the next week it's because someone gives up an asset for him, and that team is highly unlikely to be the Mets.
Lucroy is signed (affordably) for next season also. The team would then have the option to either extend him, or QO him and get a first round pick.
he doesn't move the needle enough IMO to include Smith. Cespedes last year changed everything.
I think Lucroy provides what everyone expected from TDA which still leaves the Mets a pretty bad offensive team.
I predict if we get him it's a package along the lines of TdA, Nimmo, & Herrera for Lucroy and 1 of their relievers.
Not going to argue your opinion but realize that TDA is 27 and been has been playing organized ball since drafted at age 18, 9 years.
Having a little fun at Francesa's expense. Sorry if I offended your tender sensibilities
Kelly Johnson two games in a row? WTF?!?
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the lineup. He's sizzling and they are struggling to score runs. Ride that horse for as long as you can.
Kelly Johnson two games in a row? WTF?!?
showcasing him for the deadline.