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NFT: Yanks deal Chapman

adamg : 7/25/2016 12:05 pm
For Torres, McKinney, Warren, and 1 more via Jon Heyman on twitter
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Tricky time to trade Eovaldi.  
manh george : 7/25/2016 3:52 pm : link
He just added a cutter, and just had two extremely impressive starts in a row. Tough to see whether that is an anomaly by the trade deadline.
heard a good interview on FAN yesterday with SWB manager Al Pedrique  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:53 pm : link
good stuff about the prospects. He spoke highly of Severino's character and work ethic, said he's doing well, but still seems like he has some command issues to work out. He's getting by on pure stuff, still needs to hit spots consistently.
RE: RE: Of course  
Matt M. : 7/25/2016 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13044637 Dunedin81 said:
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If guys like Campos and Severino and Judge et al. don't pan out, it won't be all that interesting. It will be pretty sad here for a while.



The problem is that Yankee fans need to be prepared for it not panning out immediately. Some of them are going to struggle, and if we boo them into oblivion after 100 ABs we're going to send the FO a message about whether we actually do have the patience to rebuild.
Excellent point. And, even if they do pan out, we have a lot of needs. By "panning out" I mean that those types of names have to be in the Bronx for a decent amount of time next season and be reasonably good. They have to show they can handle the big leagues. They don't need to be stars now, but eventually in 2018 or 2019 they will need to be.
Saw Severino live..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:54 pm : link
last week. Was hitting 95 through the 6th. Gave up a double and HR to the first two batters and then didn't give up another run. Think he walked two, but his control seemed decent for as hard as he was throwing.
Severino I really like  
Matt M. : 7/25/2016 3:58 pm : link
I was expecting a better showing than what he gave early in the year. I think he still has a shot to be a very good pitcher in the majors. I have yet to see Campos. How much of a shot does he have to start the year in the Bronx next season?
RE: Saw Severino live..  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13044645 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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last week. Was hitting 95 through the 6th. Gave up a double and HR to the first two batters and then didn't give up another run. Think he walked two, but his control seemed decent for as hard as he was throwing.


good to hear.
I like the deal for both clubs. Cashman did well trading for him.  
Ira : 7/25/2016 4:16 pm : link
You got a few months from him and better prospects in return than the ones you traded to get him.
MLB.com puts Torres #1 on Yankees prospect list  
Heisenberg : 7/25/2016 4:26 pm : link
Mateo and Judge 2,3 and then McKinney goes #4, ahead of sanchez
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Jayson  
DanMetroMan : 7/25/2016 4:27 pm : link
Stark tweeted the price for Davis is higher than Chapman. Why wouldn't it be? He's under contract for next year. Not sure why this is a surprise?
Yeah, I think if you are in the market for a reliever  
Heisenberg : 7/25/2016 4:29 pm : link
you're not psyched with the Cubs right now.
RE: Yeah, I think if you are in the market for a reliever  
DanMetroMan : 7/25/2016 4:31 pm : link
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you're not psyched with the Cubs right now.


I would think it'll hurt more paying "X" for someone significantly worse than Chapman than the really strong package the Cubs gave up. I mean barring injury Chapman is a great reliever and the Cubs can pay him through the nose if they want to keep him. The teams giving up B+ prospects for a Tyler Clippard are the ones who will regret it.
RE: RE: Yeah, I think if you are in the market for a reliever  
rich in DC : 7/25/2016 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13044706 DanMetroMan said:
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you're not psyched with the Cubs right now.



I would think it'll hurt more paying "X" for someone significantly worse than Chapman than the really strong package the Cubs gave up. I mean barring injury Chapman is a great reliever and the Cubs can pay him through the nose if they want to keep him. The teams giving up B+ prospects for a Tyler Clippard are the ones who will regret it.


I think the Chapman trade probably hurt the Indians the most. I doubt the Royals trade their closer in their division. The Yanks have Miller, but his price tag just went up- and now you have to hold off the Rangers and the Nats.

I wonder whether the Indians try and jump to the front of the line by making the Yanks an offer they can't refuse on Miller today or tomorrow and try to avoid deadline issues?
RE: MLB.com puts Torres #1 on Yankees prospect list  
Del Shofner : 7/25/2016 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13044699 Heisenberg said:
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Mateo and Judge 2,3 and then McKinney goes #4, ahead of sanchez Link - ( New Window )


from that link, sounds like Torres could play 2d or 3d:

"Torres seemed a half-step quicker in 2015, enhancing his chances of staying at shortstop. While his range may be just average, his instincts and strong arm allow him to make plays. If he has to change positions, he'd profile well offensively and defensively at either second or third base."
RE: RE: Of course  
yatqb : 7/25/2016 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13044637 Dunedin81 said:
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If guys like Campos and Severino and Judge et al. don't pan out, it won't be all that interesting. It will be pretty sad here for a while.



The problem is that Yankee fans need to be prepared for it not panning out immediately. Some of them are going to struggle, and if we boo them into oblivion after 100 ABs we're going to send the FO a message about whether we actually do have the patience to rebuild.


Bingo, Duned. We can't put added pressure on kids who will likely take a while to come into their own. It's funny, but Yankee fans are more spoiled nowadays than in the 70s, when the team really stunk.

And we have a long way to go before we're a championship-level club once again. Pretty hard to replace the stars we had during our championship run. You don't find guys like that too often unless you're picking at the top off the first round and/or do an amazing job in INT FA.
Now if we could trade a couple others  
Beer Man : 7/25/2016 5:11 pm : link
and pick-up some young talent at the corners, and possibly another SP.
McKinney ahead of Sanchez is silly  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2016 5:30 pm : link
Sanchez is only 2 years older, outhitting him at a higher level at a premium position.
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Vin R : 7/25/2016 5:39 pm : link
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Cashman did a GREAT job- as usual  
rich in DC : 7/25/2016 8:16 pm : link
Remember a few weeks ago when Randal got too full of himself (what else is new) and thought his tough guy talk about how I was wrong that Cashman was making great trades was the truth.

Where is Randal today?
RE: McKinney ahead of Sanchez is silly  
Gmen4Life21 : 7/25/2016 8:44 pm : link
In comment 13044784 Greg from LI said:
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Sanchez is only 2 years older, outhitting him at a higher level at a premium position.


They changed it. It was probably a mistake, they have Sanchez ranked higher in their top 100 (50 vs 75).
RE: Cashman did a GREAT job- as usual  
rut17 : 7/25/2016 8:59 pm : link
In comment 13044907 rich in DC said:
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Remember a few weeks ago when Randal got too full of himself (what else is new) and thought his tough guy talk about how I was wrong that Cashman was making great trades was the truth.

Where is Randal today?


He was complaining that Cashman didn't hold out for a better deal.
Baseball America Prospect Email today  
Steve in South Jersey : 7/26/2016 8:37 am : link
says that the Yankees had their choice of either Gleyber Torres or Eloy Jimenez in the Chapman trade. Interesting.
RE: McKinney ahead of Sanchez is silly  
DanMetroMan : 7/26/2016 9:26 am : link
In comment 13044784 Greg from LI said:
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Sanchez is only 2 years older, outhitting him at a higher level at a premium position.


Callis said to ignore the top 30. He said Torres is the Yankees #1 prospect, McKinney will drop off their top 100 and will be "reranked" accordingly.
RE: RE: McKinney ahead of Sanchez is silly  
rich in DC : 7/26/2016 9:43 am : link
In comment 13045196 DanMetroMan said:
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Sanchez is only 2 years older, outhitting him at a higher level at a premium position.



Callis said to ignore the top 30. He said Torres is the Yankees #1 prospect, McKinney will drop off their top 100 and will be "reranked" accordingly.


Of course McKinney will be dropped- he's a Yankee prospect.
RE: RE: RE: McKinney ahead of Sanchez is silly  
DanMetroMan : 7/26/2016 9:46 am : link
In comment 13045221 rich in DC said:
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Sanchez is only 2 years older, outhitting him at a higher level at a premium position.



Callis said to ignore the top 30. He said Torres is the Yankees #1 prospect, McKinney will drop off their top 100 and will be "reranked" accordingly.



Of course McKinney will be dropped- he's a Yankee prospect.


That's not really fair. He said they don't update the rankings in-season (cited Bregman being listed as #18 as one that stands out). You look at McKinney's numbers and tell me he's top 100 but dropped because he was a Yankee. It's not like he came into the year #25, he was #88 and having a bad year. MLB.com just removes names that are ineligible and when top 100 pre-season guys are traded they automatically rank higher than others. That's their algorithm.
This trade was great  
mdthedream : 7/26/2016 10:20 am : link
it also gives the Yankees more trading pieces to get a big bat or top pitcher for next season.
Indians  
DanMetroMan : 7/26/2016 10:29 am : link
could be a great trade partner for the Yankees. They have quite a few nice minor league pieces and just missed out on Chapman. If I'm Cleveland I deal for Miller AND Lucroy. They can win the WS this season.
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