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NFT: Removing Negative People from you life: thief

SGMen : 7/25/2016 1:29 pm
I have a "friend" that is a bit of a "bully / alpha dog" type, always in "sales" mode. His father is an extremely successful man, worth maybe $50 million in total and he never went to college even.

I've known for awhile that he is selfish but we do a lot of things together, including some business, and I allowed thing to go.

But one thing I didn't think he was capable of was stealing. He took some $2,000 worth of items from my home. I don't have footage of him doing it but he was the only person in my home and then BAM things that were there the day before were gone. It happened over TWO occasions. I was hoping I was wrong but I'm not, I just don't have "camera footage" of him taking said items.

So what do I do here? I politely remove him from my life by not bothering to communicate with him. Calling him out won't work as he has already expressed "I don't know ?" to me (bullshit, I read body language and tone). I like his wife and 3 kids and we have many common friends but the entire group overall is something I'm going to move away from and change up my relationships.

I feel good about this decision. In truth, by not setting boundaries, I hurt myself BUT because of the investments in education and business we all made together I was timid in moving on. Now I have the strength to learn from this so this type of thing doesn't happen to me in the future.

If your GUT tells you something is wrong about someone or something, trust it. My GUT is never wrong, I just make the wrong decision to look past things. Lesson learned.

Anyone else have negative people they must remove? How did you do it?
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Bullets  
Joey in VA : 7/25/2016 1:33 pm : link
Shovel, lime and a 50 mile drive.
You really think people buy boats to go fishing?  
jcn56 : 7/25/2016 1:36 pm : link
Some of the larger Dexter Russel filet knives, a good supply of 4 mil black plastic bags, and patio blocks.
what did he take?  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2016 1:37 pm : link
might help with my reply.
Cut him off  
spike : 7/25/2016 1:37 pm : link
Slowly
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steve in ky : 7/25/2016 1:43 pm : link
If you had proof of the theft I would confront him but since you don't and also have a lot of mutual friends I would just withdraw from dealing or socializing with him. No point or benefit in making it a larger issue.
I think someone who steals from you  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/25/2016 1:45 pm : link
Is more than just negative. Why would anyone have a friend who would steal from them? That assumes you're correct
Con front him..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 1:46 pm : link
and get him to apologize.

Once he does that, say "I accept your apology" and shoot him in the head at point blank range....
Your friend is sick  
mrvax : 7/25/2016 1:47 pm : link
My wife and I had a similar thing happen when I lived on base housing. This case was a female. There is something wrong with your pal that would take willing counseling to cure.

If there is anyway to secure your property or not let the sick fuck out of your sight maybe...
Else, move on slowly but surely. Don't bother leaking that the guy's a thief. It will come back to haunt you.
RE: Con front him..  
mrvax : 7/25/2016 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13044339 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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and get him to apologize.

Once he does that, say "I accept your apology" and shoot him in the head at point blank range....


LOL! My wife and I just saw that last night!
It's impossible to remove all negative people...  
BamaBlue : 7/25/2016 1:55 pm : link
from your life. Especially with family and close friends, sometimes it's important to help affect change in these peoples lives. Sometimes, you don't have the desire or the ability to handle the negative effects on your life.

You should do what you believe is the right thing for you. Don't worry about your 'friends' feelings. Apparently, he's used to marching to the beat of his own drummer. If you can just wash your hands and move-on, you should do that. If you feel you need closure by presenting your belief to the guy and put a nail in the coffin of your friendship, you should do that. I've had experiences with both options for different reasons and in different stages of my life. There's no right answer, it's about your ability to have closure.
SGMen  
EricJ : 7/25/2016 1:57 pm : link
I would absolutely do this. File a police report. Be extremely detailed about what was taken. You need to get this out there now.

Then, you can let the cops know of your situation and they can drop by his place without notice. You may get lucky.

You can just tell the guy that the cops wanted a list of people who have been to the home during that time and they took it upon themselves to go over there.

Meanwhile, check craigslist and ebay for the stuff you are missing. He is going to unload it somewhere.
RE: what did he take?  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13044320 pjcas18 said:
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might help with my reply.
$1200 worth of prescriptions was the big one. Glutathione which isn't covered by insurance.
RE: Con front him..  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13044339 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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and get him to apologize.

Once he does that, say "I accept your apology" and shoot him in the head at point blank range....
I have already "indirectly" confronted him with the "It is gone out of my refrigerator (glutathione Rx and other Rx - main expensive items he took) and no one comes down here...but you??" and got "I don't know, maybe you accidentally threw it in the garbage and didn't realize or something?" - I was like REALLY? He knows I know but won't admit it. Happened not once but twice because people that steal or take advantage (he is selfish personified) can't help themselves.

Time for me to move on, cut bait, and even our group of friends that travel together to events and take some educational classes together (Neuro Linguistic Programming class, Hypnosis class, Entrepreneurial classes, etc., well I'm just going to move on from that "world" as it hasn't blessed me).
Hypnosis class?  
steve in ky : 7/25/2016 2:05 pm : link
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I'd have zero qualms with cutting someone out of my life  
UConn4523 : 7/25/2016 2:07 pm : link
that you 100% know did something they won't own up to. Life it to short to be around people like him and while you may like his family, your family is infinitely more important. I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep for never speaking or seeing someone who stole from me again.
RE: Hypnosis class?  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13044379 steve in ky said:
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We do a lot of "life coaching" and "health coaching" business together. Ericksonian hypnosis is an approach you can use with individual clients. It isn't the ridiculous "you will now stand on one leg and bark like a dog" non-sense you sometimes see. It is more about getting someone into the right STATE to be open to suggestion of positive change.

It was a class, 6 weekend days over 3 months plus a simple final exam.
steve..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 2:10 pm : link
I was more caught up in wondering about Neuro Linguistic Programming class:)
RE: RE: what did he take?  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2016 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13044360 SGMen said:
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In comment 13044320 pjcas18 said:


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might help with my reply.

$1200 worth of prescriptions was the big one. Glutathione which isn't covered by insurance.


two options - one confrontational - but succinct and explanatory - gives closure and the other more passive.

1. Confront him and see his response and explain you want nothing to do with him, and see what he has to say for himself

2. just don't return any communications (texts, calls, etc. and don't allow him in your house) and don't include him in any gatherings. He'll get the hint. People drift apart all the time.

I'd do #1, but if you like to avoid confrontation #2 also works. With #2 though he may not know that you know and things could be weird for a while, but eventually he'll get the hint.
Glutathione is $20 a bottle  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/25/2016 2:13 pm : link
...no that that makes it OK
I had a friend of many years that I walked away from  
Larry in Pencilvania : 7/25/2016 2:15 pm : link
This friend was someone I worked with, spent holidays with his family. We eventually did business together and I worked for him. Little did I know he was taking money from clients and not providing the contacted services. He was using the money to find his business. These clients would contact me for a status report and I had no answers plus he stopped taking my calls as well as theirs. Eventually I got an email saying he could no longer afford my services. I never spoke to him or any mutual friends who were in business with him again .

I found some much better friends
RE: Glutathione is $20 a bottle  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13044398 I Love Clams Casino said:
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...no that that makes it OK
maybe those useless OTC pills but RX injectables (using same needle a diabetic uses) costs a heck of a lot more.
RE: I had a friend of many years that I walked away from  
steve in ky : 7/25/2016 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13044405 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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This friend was someone I worked with, spent holidays with his family. We eventually did business together and I worked for him. Little did I know he was taking money from clients and not providing the contacted services. He was using the money to find his business. These clients would contact me for a status report and I had no answers plus he stopped taking my calls as well as theirs. Eventually I got an email saying he could no longer afford my services. I never spoke to him or any mutual friends who were in business with him again .

I found some much better friends


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"plus he stopped taking my calls"


So he cut you out of his life (gin)
RE: RE: RE: what did he take?  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13044393 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13044360 SGMen said:


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In comment 13044320 pjcas18 said:


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might help with my reply.

$1200 worth of prescriptions was the big one. Glutathione which isn't covered by insurance.



two options - one confrontational - but succinct and explanatory - gives closure and the other more passive.

1. Confront him and see his response and explain you want nothing to do with him, and see what he has to say for himself

2. just don't return any communications (texts, calls, etc. and don't allow him in your house) and don't include him in any gatherings. He'll get the hint. People drift apart all the time.

I'd do #1, but if you like to avoid confrontation #2 also works. With #2 though he may not know that you know and things could be weird for a while, but eventually he'll get the hint.
Oh, with #2 which is my tact he'll know, for sure, why I disconnected. He isn't stupid and I already have "indirectly" confronted him. He is just a liar, not just with me here but with other things. He glorifies himself a lot and embellishes a lot. When he helps someone out he makes sure everyone knows. LOL. I've known this about him for a long time. I've also watched him bully others and have had his childhood friends, some who I know, sort of look down when I asked them about him. Their reply was "he is a character" - I just didn't think he'd be a thief, brazen at that.
RE: SGMen  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13044358 EricJ said:
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I would absolutely do this. File a police report. Be extremely detailed about what was taken. You need to get this out there now.

Then, you can let the cops know of your situation and they can drop by his place without notice. You may get lucky.

You can just tell the guy that the cops wanted a list of people who have been to the home during that time and they took it upon themselves to go over there.

Meanwhile, check craigslist and ebay for the stuff you are missing. He is going to unload it somewhere.
If I was 100% certain it was him, had footage, I'd do it. Problem, to be honest, is that I was chilling drinking when he was over and hence he took advantage of my being onthe couch buzzed. That is the truth. Also, the glutathione is obtained from a Dr. in FL via bloodwork and mail. Not even sure how "legal" it technically is and the item must be refrigerated.

The guy deal steroids for a living. I'd be lying if I said I hadn't used some though not to the level he does. I have an Rx for testosterone, legit, but he took the bag with that in it as well. My point is that in all honesty I'm not totally clean here and don't need the trouble / headaches.
Blast his wife in the butt  
pmmanning : 7/25/2016 2:34 pm : link
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RE: Blast his wife in the butt  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13044432 pmmanning said:
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LOL. She homeschools 3 beautiful, very lovable boys ages 1, 5 and 7. I met her before I met him.

The first day I actually spent real time with him, he came to my house, and asked me if I'd mind if he used my stove to cook his steak. I said sure. He cooked it, ate, and left the pan and a grease mess as he didn't cover the pan up. I was just stunned when he left without consideration. That same day, he wanted to try some goji berries that I had as he had never ate them before.

He ate the whole $10 bag. I didn't even realize as we were going back n forth on things. He is ADD, Selfish and is always in "sales" mode (aka not real) and I knew it but looked past it as I also saw someone I could work out with; learn from; travel with to conferences; hang with at times (I'm new to the area I live in) and so forth. A mistake I will never make again!

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck it is a fucking DUCK. Period.
If someone stole from me, they are GONE  
schnitzie : 7/25/2016 2:40 pm : link
Fuck that to even giving them an opportunity to explain. I'd regard any attempt at explanation by them as sociopath bullshit. Stealing alone is the line that was crossed, from which there is no return.

Fatman in Charlotte can attest to my attitude about a "friend" who stiffs you on a loan and refuses to be accountable for something you both openly know he took. That person is a friendship-killing lowlife.

Someone who actually steals from you? DEAD TO ME, and no need for being polite about it.

Shake the dust from your feet.
RE: If someone stole from me, they are GONE  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13044451 schnitzie said:
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Fuck that to even giving them an opportunity to explain. I'd regard any attempt at explanation by them as sociopath bullshit. Stealing alone is the line that was crossed, from which there is no return.

Fatman in Charlotte can attest to my attitude about a "friend" who stiffs you on a loan and refuses to be accountable for something you both openly know he took. That person is a friendship-killing lowlife.

Someone who actually steals from you? DEAD TO ME, and no need for being polite about it.

Shake the dust from your feet.
Oh, I've shaked. The only reason I didn't post on facebook is he'd know I was talking about him and I figure let it go there where we have many mutual friends.

Just venting and seeing how others have handled.
If he took them to sell  
montanagiant : 7/25/2016 2:44 pm : link
Check with your local pawnshops. If you find the items they will have a record of who stole them
RE: SGMen  
montanagiant : 7/25/2016 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13044358 EricJ said:
[quote] I would absolutely do this. File a police report. Be extremely detailed about what was taken. You need to get this out there now.

Then, you can let the cops know of your situation and they can drop by his place without notice. You may get lucky.

You can just tell the guy that the cops wanted a list of people who have been to the home during that time and they took it upon themselves to go over there.

Meanwhile, check craigslist and ebay for the stuff you are missing. He is going to unload it somewhere. [/quote
Good idea
I would advise against posting about it or him on Facebook  
schnitzie : 7/25/2016 2:46 pm : link
Such a post can only come to no good. It creates drama you don't need, and the POS could even sue you for libel.

Just make the break complete and final. I wouldn't even tell other friends privately, unless it's someone you absolutely trust 100%.
Just to clear up..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 2:50 pm : link
any misconception for newer posters here - it wasn't me schnitzie was talking about as ripping her off. I don't do that to family!!
So, to recap,  
MSanchez : 7/25/2016 2:55 pm : link
your steroids dealer stole 2gs worth of possibly illegal supplements from you while you were lit on the couch and you've come to the good people of BBI for advice/confirmation that you should no longer associate with him? I love these advice threads.
Why does he need to deal  
spike : 7/25/2016 2:58 pm : link
When his dad is worth 50 mil?
juicehead scammer steals from juicehead scammer shocker  
DinDC : 7/25/2016 3:02 pm : link
neuro linguistic programming = snake oil bullshit
suggestive hypnosis?? really?

good luck in your career of peddling pseudo science horseshit to marks
RE: Just to clear up..  
steve in ky : 7/25/2016 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13044476 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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any misconception for newer posters here - it wasn't me schnitzie was talking about as ripping her off. I don't do that to family!!

The first step is admitting it.
I do find it ironic..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:06 pm : link
that somebody specializing in "life coaching" or "health coaching" is basically asking BBI how to deal with a situation and is admitting to having some interesting materials in his fridge.

Seems sort of a fail on both ends there.
RE: Bullets  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2016 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13044312 Joey in VA said:
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Shovel, lime and a 50 mile drive.


This is an appropriate comment, since you've stolen my line :(
Well  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/25/2016 3:08 pm : link
This is going well
RE: Bullets  
ed90631 : 7/25/2016 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13044312 Joey in VA said:
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Shovel, lime and a 50 mile drive.
Boom! end of discussion. well done, sir.
Assuming you're not making assumptions  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/25/2016 3:29 pm : link
and have real, tangible reason for believing he did this... you call the cops.

$1200 in medication is no joke. But if this is all hearsay based on your read of his body language, then perhaps you need to consider whether or not you're connecting dots that aren't there. Weigh all possible scenarios against the one you believe to be true. Then, even if you still conclude that him stealing is the most likely scenario, you have to consider whether or not "the field" of other possibilities has a greater likelihood of occurring than him being a thief.

You said yourself he never stole from you. Think it through... really think it through.

Then when you've done so, if you still think he stole your medication... call the police.
Wait a minute!!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:32 pm : link
Maybe he did hypnosis on you and you actually stole your own medicine!

Mind..........









Blown! BOOM!
RE: If someone stole from me, they are GONE  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2016 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13044451 schnitzie said:
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Fuck that to even giving them an opportunity to explain. I'd regard any attempt at explanation by them as sociopath bullshit. Stealing alone is the line that was crossed, from which there is no return.

Fatman in Charlotte can attest to my attitude about a "friend" who stiffs you on a loan and refuses to be accountable for something you both openly know he took. That person is a friendship-killing lowlife.

Someone who actually steals from you? DEAD TO ME, and no need for being polite about it.

Shake the dust from your feet.


Maybe give him a chance to explain because he doesn't have any proof it was this guy who stole the stuff.

No one likes to be falsely accused of something and it makes you look like an ass.
RE: Why does he need to deal  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13044491 spike said:
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When his dad is worth 50 mil?
My dad never gae me a dime. Even during the darkest moment of my life, when I needed all of $25k to keep my house after a divorce he said not only "NO" but even more disparaging things. My dad could easily have helped me but he's to selfish and cheap, not just with me but with everything. I worked from 10 to 18 so I never took an allowance. I joined the Army at 17, full-time at 18. Served 20 years, Special Forces, Airborne, tours in the Middle East (Gulf War) and so forth. My dad never once said he was proud of me or even offered to help me out. His dad is no different with exception that he paid 100% for his college and when he and his wife had a problem his wife lived with his dad for some 9 months with a kid.

My point: his dad is tough, doesn't believe in just giving money to kids but rather seeing them earn it. Old school.
RE: So, to recap,  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 3:41 pm : link
In comment 13044486 MSanchez said:
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your steroids dealer stole 2gs worth of possibly illegal supplements from you while you were lit on the couch and you've come to the good people of BBI for advice/confirmation that you should no longer associate with him? I love these advice threads.
Glutathione isn't "illegal" in the eyes of the law. I mean, you just need to do a blood test and order from a place in FL where a Dr. reviews. It is expensive and a pain in the ass. But how "legal" it is I am actually not sure. Testosterone I have an Rx for but it only cost like $75 so no big deal. He stole other shit too like cash but how do you prove cash that was in a drawer?
Perhaps you can use your military training  
mrvax : 7/25/2016 3:44 pm : link
to find a way to break into his house when no one is home. Then just swipe his stash of steroids. He'll get the message.
Holy shit  
AP in Halfmoon : 7/25/2016 3:44 pm : link
There are some weird people here.
RE: RE: If someone stole from me, they are GONE  
SGMen : 7/25/2016 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13044580 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13044451 schnitzie said:


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Fuck that to even giving them an opportunity to explain. I'd regard any attempt at explanation by them as sociopath bullshit. Stealing alone is the line that was crossed, from which there is no return.

Fatman in Charlotte can attest to my attitude about a "friend" who stiffs you on a loan and refuses to be accountable for something you both openly know he took. That person is a friendship-killing lowlife.

Someone who actually steals from you? DEAD TO ME, and no need for being polite about it.

Shake the dust from your feet.



Maybe give him a chance to explain because he doesn't have any proof it was this guy who stole the stuff.

No one likes to be falsely accused of something and it makes you look like an ass.
The main reason I haven't directly accused him and gone off on him is that I didn't "see him" take it; I don't have a surveillance camera with footage, etc. I put myself in a bad spot by chilling with wine on my couch while he was in my home. I didn't even know he was over right away. But never imagined he'd steal. Never.

I let my guard down, not paying attention, because I didn't think I'd ever need to.
I have to give some props here...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:46 pm : link
I would've figured somebody dealing with Low-T might end up crying like a bitch.

So there's a silver lining in every cloud...
RE: I have to give some props here...  
mrvax : 7/25/2016 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13044622 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I would've figured somebody dealing with Low-T might end up crying like a bitch.

So there's a silver lining in every cloud...


Behind every BBI post, there is a flucking cry baby.
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