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NFT: More Famous/Popular - Bruce or Billy Joel

bhill410 : 7/25/2016 2:35 pm
Was having a couple pops last weekend and somehow the conversation dovetailed into whether Bruce or Billy Joel was more famous or popular (I suppose those are two different criteria). Being from NJ, I thought the clear cut answer was Bruce and frankly didnt even think it was that close. However, all of the NYers present thought I was crazy.

So like all great debates in life, I look to BBI for the final resolution. And this isnt about who you happen to like better (personally I lean Bruce but am a big fan of both), but who is more famous.
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Bruce....  
Chris in Philly : 7/25/2016 2:38 pm : link
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I think nationally it may be Joel  
steve in ky : 7/25/2016 2:39 pm : link
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i'm going Joel  
UConn4523 : 7/25/2016 2:39 pm : link
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I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 2:40 pm : link
Joel's more famous nationally and abroad. I think Bruce wins by a landslide in Asbury Park, though...
RE: I think..  
Chef : 7/25/2016 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13044448 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Joel's more famous nationally and abroad. I think Bruce wins by a landslide in Asbury Park, though...


This is perfect lol..
I am a big fan of both.  
johnnyb : 7/25/2016 2:46 pm : link
Both are touring and both are selling out stadiums. Internationally, Bruce is much more popular than Billy- the crowds he continues to attract in Europe is amazing. Nationally, maybe Billy because he appeals to a wider audience.
Simple math...  
LarmerTJR : 7/25/2016 2:50 pm : link
Billy has 102 million albums sold (certified) and 150 claimed.

Bruce has 100 million (certified) and 120 claimed.

AC/DC wins. 112.4 million (certified), 200 claimed.
Joel  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/25/2016 2:50 pm : link
has sold more albums, but not by much. Billy Joel's greatest hits album went 23x Platinum (third best ever).

Bruce has far more Grammy Awards as well as an Oscar.

Both are in songwriters and RnR HOF.

Bruce has a more obsessive following.

Both are awesome.
Don't sell Joel..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 2:52 pm : link
short internationally. He is beloved in Russia and eastern Europe. He also has a huge following in Asia.
the real question is  
UConn4523 : 7/25/2016 2:57 pm : link
who's more talented...
I think Joel has had a few songs that hit #1  
steve in ky : 7/25/2016 2:58 pm : link
Where I don't think Bruce ever has. Not that it really matters but that could indicate that at least at one point in time he was more "popular".
Both are in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame...  
Chris in Philly : 7/25/2016 3:00 pm : link
inducted in the same year. Both have been given Kennedy Center Honors (Bruce was first).

Joel has sold 81.5 million albums and has had 23 grammy nominations.

Bruce has sold 64.5 million albums and has had 20 Grammy wins out of 49 nomination. Bruce also has an Oscar and two Golden Globes.

Bruce is 3rd overall in #1 albums behind the Beatles and Jay-Z. He is also 4th overall in #1 albums in the UK. Wikipedia doesn't have Joel's info but he's clearly behind in both.

Joel definitely has more hits, but I think Bruce is the bigger name worldwide.
I feel like peak Joel  
Deej : 7/25/2016 3:01 pm : link
was bigger than Bruce by a country mile, but Bruce has stayed steadier and more relevant.
Billy  
Sec 103 : 7/25/2016 3:11 pm : link
Hands down
Billy in every way.  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:12 pm : link
.........
I like both  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2016 3:13 pm : link
Billy Joel is more pop and Bruce is more rock.

So Billy Joel would have a wider audience to appeal to.

For example my mother like Billy Joel.

she never listened to Bruce Springsteen, he just wasn't played o her easy listening stations.

I will say this though Billy Joel played in Hawaii at my company "President's Club" event for a couple thousand people (maybe less). And it was incredible to see him in such a unique setting.

I can't see Bruce doing that, since I assumed it was purely financial why Joel did it), financially I think Bruce has done much better. Just my opinion on that though.
You think Joel has more hits than Bruce?  
bhill410 : 7/25/2016 3:14 pm : link
To me I would say Bruce but I will have to go through and look at that.
Bruce played..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:15 pm : link
at a private birthday party for someone I used to work with - for free as a favor.

I think both guys are fine with doing intimate settings on occasion.
No question Billy Joel  
FranknWeezer : 7/25/2016 3:20 pm : link
Especially b/c of international appeal.
It's really close  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/25/2016 3:21 pm : link
Billy Joel has the more recognizable individual songs, but Bruce has a higher pedigree.

I'd give the slightest of slight edges to Bruce.
And for the record I can't stand Bruce and enjoy Billy Joel  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/25/2016 3:21 pm : link
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Bruce was hugely popular ....  
ed90631 : 7/25/2016 3:22 pm : link
but IMHO Billy Joel was far more entertaining.

Neither makes my top ten list of pop/rock acts from the seventies.

pink floyd
Eric Clapton
Allman Bros
Jimi..(he died in 1970)
Dead
Jefferson Airplane/Hot Tuna
Stones
Led Zepp (meh)
oops...back to work
I think Billy Joel.  
TheBigBlueOne : 7/25/2016 3:24 pm : link
He was on that motorcycle building show where the father and son yelled at each other.
RE: You think Joel has more hits than Bruce?  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13044524 bhill410 said:
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To me I would say Bruce but I will have to go through and look at that.


way more.

42 Bill Board Top 100 for Billy Joel, 3 #1s
(http://www.billboard.com/artist/284376/billy-joel/chart?f=379)

26 for Bruce, never a #1
(http://www.billboard.com/artist/298448/bruce-springsteen/chart)
RE: You think Joel has more hits than Bruce?  
Chris in Philly : 7/25/2016 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13044524 bhill410 said:
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To me I would say Bruce but I will have to go through and look at that.


According to Wiki, Joel has had 32 top 40 singles and 3 at #1 overall.

Bruce has had 18 top 40 singles and the highest he ever got was the #2 spot.

Bruce does more album rock and Joel does a lot more singles...
Bruce has more Facebook and Twitter followers  
Lopes1984 : 7/25/2016 3:26 pm : link
For whatever that's worth.
We only play 80s Joel  
robbieballs2003 : 7/25/2016 3:27 pm : link
!
RE: I think..  
Section331 : 7/25/2016 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13044448 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Joel's more famous nationally and abroad. I think Bruce wins by a landslide in Asbury Park, though...


I disagree. Bruce sells out stadiums worldwide, Joel has to play MSG once a month to get sellouts, and has to perform with Elton John to sell out stadiums.

It's Bruce, and it's not close.
it's a tough call  
Enzo : 7/25/2016 3:32 pm : link
In terms of fame, it would seemingly be difficult to find someone who's heard of one but not the other (excluding young people). Springsteen has the reputation for the epic stadium shows, but Billy just recently played baseball stadiums in Seattle, San Diego, Pittsburgh, Philly, etc. If I had to guess I'd go with Billy. I bet I can find more people that have heard of/can sing every word to Piano Man vs. Bruce's most popular songs (Born to Run? Born in the USA?). That's not a knock on Bruce. He's simply more rock than pop. Bottom line: both are awesome.
and Billy doesn't spit when he sings  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:35 pm : link
:-)
Joe Piscopo/Bruce Springsteen - ( New Window )
It makes me cringe when Bruce and Billy are mentioned together...  
x meadowlander : 7/25/2016 3:35 pm : link
...as though there is any similarity between them, aside from being white and banging supermodels.

What about Sinatra? Was he more popular?

They aren't in the same category.

RE: We only play 80s Joel  
x meadowlander : 7/25/2016 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13044559 robbieballs2003 said:
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BOATS & HO'S!!!
RE: I think Joel has had a few songs that hit #1  
johnnyb : 7/25/2016 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13044492 steve in ky said:
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Where I don't think Bruce ever has. Not that it really matters but that could indicate that at least at one point in time he was more "popular".


Bruce is different in that he does not look for commercial success. He certainly is capable of writing top 20 hits, but it is not his goal. Look at the hits he gave away! Billy is a bit more commercial in my opinion but please do not take that as underestimating his talent.
Well..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:38 pm : link
From 2014 to 2016, Joel sold out 74 consecutive shows and that included a lot of venues on the West Coast, Wembley Stadium and Frankfurt. It isn't like he only sells out at MSG.
Bruce  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2016 3:39 pm : link
has a net worth of 300M


Billy has a net worth of 180M


Bruce has been more frugal? - not saying it makes him more famous or popular

(this is through 2014, at which time Bruce had another tour to probably add another $10M or so).


per therichest.com
RE: No question Billy Joel  
johnnyb : 7/25/2016 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13044540 FranknWeezer said:
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Especially b/c of international appeal.


Check out Bruce's concerts in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa in 2014 and his European gigs over the last three months. All or parts are on youtube. Bruce is extremely popular internationally. Not sure Billy has played internationally in recent years.
Joel was more popular at his zenith  
Heisenberg : 7/25/2016 3:40 pm : link
but Bruce has simply kept going and still puts out good records. Joel hasn't released anything in years. Bruce is more prolific for sure. But Billy Joel wrote a lot bigger hits.
RE: Well..  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13044594 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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From 2014 to 2016, Joel sold out 74 consecutive shows and that included a lot of venues on the West Coast, Wembley Stadium and Frankfurt. It isn't like he only sells out at MSG.


And he's been doing a ballpark tour this summer as well that has consistently sold out.
RE: Bruce  
YAJ2112 : 7/25/2016 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13044597 pjcas18 said:
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has a net worth of 300M


Billy has a net worth of 180M


Bruce has been more frugal? - not saying it makes him more famous or popular

(this is through 2014, at which time Bruce had another tour to probably add another $10M or so).


per therichest.com


Billy's been divorced more
RE: It makes me cringe when Bruce and Billy are mentioned together...  
steve in ky : 7/25/2016 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13044586 x meadowlander said:
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...as though there is any similarity between them, aside from being white and banging supermodels.

What about Sinatra? Was he more popular?

They aren't in the same category.


They are both from the same region of the country and with careers that began in a similar time period of the early 70's. I can see why people from the NY metropolitan area would sometimes link them.

I don't think they are so much elsewhere in the country.
Billy Joel recorded uptown girl  
weeg in the bronx : 7/25/2016 3:41 pm : link
Sorry, that loses him the argument.
Joel hasn't written any new material....  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:42 pm : link
since 1993 and the "River of Dreams" album.
RE: Bruce  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13044597 pjcas18 said:
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has a net worth of 300M


Billy has a net worth of 180M


Bruce has been more frugal? - not saying it makes him more famous or popular

(this is through 2014, at which time Bruce had another tour to probably add another $10M or so).


per therichest.com


Billy was bankrupted at least once, his ex-wife and brother in law were managing him/robbing him blind in the late 70s early 80s, cost him lots of $$.
Billy probably had to pay Christie  
timintey : 7/25/2016 3:45 pm : link
more than Bruce paid Julianne... just a hunch
RE: Bruce  
steve in ky : 7/25/2016 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13044597 pjcas18 said:
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has a net worth of 300M


Billy has a net worth of 180M


Bruce has been more frugal? - not saying it makes him more famous or popular

(this is through 2014, at which time Bruce had another tour to probably add another $10M or so).


per therichest.com




Even if we are to even believe net worth figures published from online sources which likley aren't truly accurate possibly it is nothing more than more money lost in divorces or different spending/investing habits.
RE: RE: Bruce  
BillKo : 7/25/2016 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13044603 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13044597 pjcas18 said:


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has a net worth of 300M


Billy has a net worth of 180M


Bruce has been more frugal? - not saying it makes him more famous or popular

(this is through 2014, at which time Bruce had another tour to probably add another $10M or so).


per therichest.com



Billy's been divorced more


And didn't Brinkley basically steal everything right from out under him???
Bruce:  
manh george : 7/25/2016 3:46 pm : link
Net worth of $350 million, twenty Grammy Awards, four American Music Awards, two Golden Globe Award and an Academy Award. In 1999, Bruce Springsteen was inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 120 million record sales.


Billy Joel: . He has received 23 Grammy nominations {not awards), is a member of the Songwriter Hall of Fame and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as well. 100 million record sales, so it's close.

Interestingly, they were born 4 months apart.

I give it to Bruce, by a fair amount. Joel probably could have done even more than his illustrious career if he stayed sober, longer.
you mean Bruce doesn't still live in a share house in Asbury Park  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2016 3:47 pm : link
like the propaganda says? :-)

Although he looks like he does
Joel..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/25/2016 3:47 pm : link
admits that he's been too trusting with people and his money and that he's been taken to the cleaners a few times.
Has Joel ever played the Superbowl  
bhill410 : 7/25/2016 3:48 pm : link
and if he hasnt why not?
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