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NFT: WWE Raw

KWhite2250 : 7/25/2016 8:53 pm
Ok havent seen a wrestling thread in a while. Last nights PPVwas pretty awesome. And tonights start of the new era Raw has been pretty good also. Finn Balor winning a fatal four way and jobbers are back(female jobber) And corey graves is sooo much better than JBL

Maybe WWE will actually do things right.
The new title is so stupid  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/25/2016 8:59 pm : link
Basically minimizing the existing belt. Which just makes Smackdown more of the little brother. The WWE Universe Title. Are you fucking kidding me. Give me the Raw Champion and Smackdown Champion and maybe a floating overall champion.
Roman wins  
KWhite2250 : 7/25/2016 9:17 pm : link
The 2nd fatal fourway. Maybe nothing has fucking changed
Fin Balor  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/25/2016 9:34 pm : link
Is pretty bad ass though.
Maybe they are finally turning Roman heel?  
jlukes : 7/25/2016 9:41 pm : link
Pretty clear Balor is a fan favorite and the crowd will be behind him and against Roman.
RE: Maybe they are finally turning Roman heel?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/25/2016 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13044968 jlukes said:
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Pretty clear Balor is a fan favorite and the crowd will be behind him and against Roman.


You need to turn Rollins face to make that work since Balor is not winning against Rollins.
I mean he's not beating  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/25/2016 9:47 pm : link
Reigns
So then they try to turn Balor heel by having Gallows and Anderson  
jlukes : 7/25/2016 9:51 pm : link
help him tonight?
RE: So then they try to turn Balor heel by having Gallows and Anderson  
nygiants16 : 7/25/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13044978 jlukes said:
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help him tonight?


I think this is what happens
Wow  
KWhite2250 : 7/25/2016 10:17 pm : link
That was an amazing womens match
RE: So then they try to turn Balor heel by having Gallows and Anderson  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/25/2016 10:32 pm : link
In comment 13044978 jlukes said:
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help him tonight?


I think they do the opposite, and that would be pretty fucking cool.

Wonder if fin comes out painted up.
Balor vs Rollins  
KWhite2250 : 7/25/2016 11:07 pm : link
Wow!
Can't believe the  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/25/2016 11:09 pm : link
Are pushing Fin so quickly. I mean he is over, but you think they would push KO or Cesaro or SZ.

No Balor Club and it looks like they are going face with Reigns and the way they are doing it probably will work alright.
RE: The new title is so stupid  
Kulish29 : 7/25/2016 11:17 pm : link
In comment 13044935 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Basically minimizing the existing belt. Which just makes Smackdown more of the little brother. The WWE Universe Title. Are you fucking kidding me. Give me the Raw Champion and Smackdown Champion and maybe a floating overall champion.


This is the belt that should be brought back

I perfer  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/25/2016 11:28 pm : link
The big gold belt. Best belt in the business.
RE: I perfer  
Kulish29 : 7/25/2016 11:31 pm : link
In comment 13045033 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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The big gold belt. Best belt in the business.


Oh god. Not that POS monstrosity from WCW? That thing was an epic, ugly piece of shit.
This is the logo that should be brought back  
Vin R : 7/25/2016 11:32 pm : link
Well, i guess Rollins wins the belt at SS. No way they put it on Balor  
PhiPsi125 : 7/25/2016 11:46 pm : link
Boring.
RE: This is the logo that should be brought back  
Kulish29 : 7/25/2016 11:47 pm : link
In comment 13045036 Vin R said:
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Or bring back the logo that brought back their popularity and made the company interesting again. The one that won the Monday Night Wars.


This is the belt I would bring back:  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/26/2016 12:38 am : link


Nothing more prestigous looking than that, IMO.
RE: RE: I perfer  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/26/2016 6:19 am : link
In comment 13045035 Kulish29 said:
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In comment 13045033 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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The big gold belt. Best belt in the business.



Oh god. Not that POS monstrosity from WCW? That thing was an epic, ugly piece of shit.


The big gold belt was around long before WCW. That thing is an icon.
RE: Well, i guess Rollins wins the belt at SS. No way they put it on Balor  
Old Dirty Beckham : 7/26/2016 7:17 am : link
In comment 13045047 PhiPsi125 said:
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Boring.


They just out a guy who has two matches in his career over one of the top named in the company and in the main event of summerslam and youre complaining? Youre the kind of wrestling fan thay watches just to complain.
If they let Fin win  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/26/2016 8:05 am : link
Then it's not boring, but the way WWE is, the basically telegraph who is going to win. We all knew Triple H was going to win the Championship at the Rumble and we all knew Reigns would win it back at Mania.

That's what makes it boring. If they give us a swerve and Balor wins that' would not be boring, but in reality it probably won't happen.
FINN F'N BALOR !!!!  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/26/2016 8:20 am : link
He is the man ,I have not marked out like that in awhile as i was not surprised he won the 4 way but for him to go over on Reigns was awesome and it may look like HHH is in charge of the pencil on Raw at least iam hoping anyways .Good to see Sasha win the strap from Charlotte too but Charlotte is great and maybe tonight we will see where Bayley ends up .Love the 2 squash matches.That's the way to get talent over and it gives some local wrestlers some tv time
Reigns is paying his punishment  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/26/2016 8:26 am : link
for the wellness exception. 2 straight jobs + Stephanie running him down in the opening as a loser.

That women's match sure was something, though.
RE: RE: Well, i guess Rollins wins the belt at SS. No way they put it on Balor  
PhiPsi125 : 7/26/2016 8:52 am : link
In comment 13045079 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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In comment 13045047 PhiPsi125 said:


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Boring.



They just out a guy who has two matches in his career over one of the top named in the company and in the main event of summerslam and youre complaining? Youre the kind of wrestling fan thay watches just to complain.


Lol, okay dude. Whatever you want to believe. I guess completely predictable storylines and the same old shit is exciting for you. More power to you.

Having a repeat of a Rollins run as champ for a year + with he and Stephanie licking each other's balls every week will be excruciating.

If Balor wins? Game changer. But it'll never happen.
what would make it unpredictable?  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 9:12 am : link
watching it as a grownup as opposed to a 12 year old without internet rumors has shown me how incredibly difficult it is to keep things under wraps and a surprise. As much as we want to see heel turns and shocking winners, i'm not sure that's the solution. WWE needs health, first and foremost. They need to phase out Lesnar, Cena, HHH, The Rock, and all others who can't/won't wrestle close to full time. It isn't any fun at all watching a guy wrestle a few times a year, then disappear to MMA, then wrestle again. Wrestlemania was nothing but retired vets giving a jolt to one of the worst cards the sport ever featured. And its still bleeding into RAW/Smackdown.

I'm new to NXT but the talent is there, they just need to be featured and marketed. I think this is infinitely more important than any surprises to the story lines.
I was down at the  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/26/2016 9:20 am : link
Cruiserweight tournament 2 weeks ago @ Full sail .All I have to say is WOW ,There is a ton of talent in the tournament .The Cedric Alexander vs Kota Ibushi match is a match of the year candidate ,Both are signed to NXT so after the tournament they will be the next to be pushed to the moon down in NXT ,Lots of good talent down there with Nakamura and now with Kenta Kobayashi coming back from injury we may get a 3 way dance with Soma Joe for the NXT title @ NXT Brooklyn
Finn winning last night  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/26/2016 9:22 am : link
Was unpredictable. Him beating Rollins would be unpredictable, but I doubt it will happen. They are probably doing this just so everyone can see his entrance on the second biggest wrestling event of the year.

I correct myself. The only way to top that would to do a double turn, and having the Club come out and helping Finn win. I would be behind that.
Don't get me wrong  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/26/2016 10:48 am : link
Sometimes predictability is ok. Like when a Champ wins the belt for the first time, the next match PPV he should win and maybe until the next main PPV.

The maIn PPV events should not always be as predictable as they are.
The women's match was great  
Anakim : 7/26/2016 11:46 am : link
I think they're going to keep Bayley in NXT for the foreseeable future because there seems to be a dearth of talent, especially star power, there.


BTW, I can't wait until Bayley turns heel and lets down all of those fans, especially Izzy. Little kids should NOT be watching wrestling. #ATTITUDEERA


Then again, my guess is Bayley will be a face for life ala Cena
how is Chris Benoit still  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 12:17 pm : link
a feature wrestler in the WWE? I was never a fan of his but watching him last night was awful. He can barely pull off a bump anymore and he seems to go half speed when guys like Zayn are going full speed. It's bad.
RE: how is Chris Benoit still  
Joe in Cambridge : 7/26/2016 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13045441 UConn4523 said:
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a feature wrestler in the WWE? I was never a fan of his but watching him last night was awful. He can barely pull off a bump anymore and he seems to go half speed when guys like Zayn are going full speed. It's bad.
I think he move pretty well for an undead zombie. Let's see how agile you are nine years after you die.
RE: how is Chris Benoit still  
Anakim : 7/26/2016 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13045441 UConn4523 said:
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a feature wrestler in the WWE? I was never a fan of his but watching him last night was awful. He can barely pull off a bump anymore and he seems to go half speed when guys like Zayn are going full speed. It's bad.


Jericho?
RE: The women's match was great  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/26/2016 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13045387 Anakim said:
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I think they're going to keep Bayley in NXT for the foreseeable future because there seems to be a dearth of talent, especially star power, there.


BTW, I can't wait until Bayley turns heel and lets down all of those fans, especially Izzy. Little kids should NOT be watching wrestling. #ATTITUDEERA


Then again, my guess is Bayley will be a face for life ala Cena


Bailey is going to Smackdown. They need a top women competitor and she is never going heel. She is a draw for little girls and that's tough to duplicate.
haha  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 12:53 pm : link
yes, Jericho. No idea how I made that mistake, i should crippler crossface myself for that.
so yeah  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 12:54 pm : link
how does Jericho still wrestle what I assume is full time? He's awful.
RE: RE: The women's match was great  
Anakim : 7/26/2016 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13045504 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 13045387 Anakim said:


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I think they're going to keep Bayley in NXT for the foreseeable future because there seems to be a dearth of talent, especially star power, there.


BTW, I can't wait until Bayley turns heel and lets down all of those fans, especially Izzy. Little kids should NOT be watching wrestling. #ATTITUDEERA


Then again, my guess is Bayley will be a face for life ala Cena



Bailey is going to Smackdown. They need a top women competitor and she is never going heel. She is a draw for little girls and that's tough to duplicate.


But can you teach that?
RE: so yeah  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/26/2016 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13045523 UConn4523 said:
[quote] how does Jericho still wrestle what I assume is full time? He's awful. [/quote Y2J has a lifetime job with the wwe ,he doesn't even need to wrestle anymore but he is doing it to help some of the younger guys get over ,same with the Dudley's .That's why I was shocked Y2J beat AJ a few months ago even though AJ is not a young wrestler he is young by wwe standards since he never really worked there before except for some Sunday night heat matches over 10 years ago .
They are actually missing the boat  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/26/2016 3:28 pm : link
not adding Carmella to Enzo & Cass. Could get a real Lita-esque vibe, albeit without the wrestling part...
RE: They are actually missing the boat  
Anakim : 7/26/2016 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13045837 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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not adding Carmella to Enzo & Cass. Could get a real Lita-esque vibe, albeit without the wrestling part...


Cass better milk this tag team for all its worth because when they inevitably split up, Cass will not amount to much. He'll be essentially a jobber.
Enzo is the man  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 4:08 pm : link
easily the most entertaining character for me.
RE: RE: They are actually missing the boat  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/26/2016 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13045840 Anakim said:
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In comment 13045837 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:


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not adding Carmella to Enzo & Cass. Could get a real Lita-esque vibe, albeit without the wrestling part...



Cass better milk this tag team for all its worth because when they inevitably split up, Cass will not amount to much. He'll be essentially a jobber.


Vince loves Cass and he'll get a singles run when they split up. What he does with that is up to him.
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