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spot-starter in front of sell-out crowd when Piazza's number gets retired but can't be helped here...

In comment 13045244 Metnut said:

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spot-starter in front of sell-out crowd when Piazza's number gets retired but can't be helped here...

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In comment 13045285 Gmen1982 said:

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Lugo

back end starter. I keep mentioning Cashner but really we just need a body. We are getting dangerously thin. Lugo starting this Saturday(if he does) is a perfect example of this.

but not sure that he's a player that would put the Mets over the top.

I liked both of those RP's from the brewers wonder if there is life there.

I'm starting to lean in the direction that this is just not the year to go all in.

IMO Its all about Wheeler and Cesp

the Mets not trying to make a splash? Fiscal or baseball reasons?

In comment 13045350 Josh in the City said:

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the Mets not trying to make a splash? Fiscal or baseball reasons?

There aren't really a lot of positions that make sense. They have a catcher who is hitting and a glut of players both in the outfield and infield. Unless benching guys like Conforto, Granderson, Reyes, act. sound like a good idea there isn't much we can do barring a trade for a true star and we aren't gutting our system for one. Trading for a TOR starter doesn't make a lot of sense either as we will still have a postseason rotation of Thor, deGrom, Matz, and Wheeler/Colon.

In comment 13045349 Rory said:

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but not sure that he's a player that would put the Mets over the top. I liked both of those RP's from the brewers wonder if there is life there. I'm starting to lean in the direction that this is just not the year to go all in. IMO Its all about Wheeler and Cesp

Lucroy probably helps us a little but not if you are giving up big pieces. TDA's been over a wRC+ of 100 since he's been back (130s last year). Going from that to Lucroy's whopping 121 currently(111 career) certainly isn't transforming this team.

The problem with the Mets lineup is mediocrity across the board. There is nobody who "sucks" . Everyone is ok except maybe for Walker, who is in a deep slump.

I don't see Lucroy significantly out producing TDA the next two months--at least not enough to trade big prospects for him

about how cheap the mets are. But I dont think their passive approach this trading deadline is the result of finances. Frankly, I think it was quite apparent from the jump of the season that we would not be getting reinforcements via the trade outside of a bench guy or a bull pen guy. We got lucky (assuming you like him) with reyes for free, and really could have gotten lucky if we opened up the wallets for a reasonable contract with Guriel. There arent any impact center fielders out there and they would rather hold onto prospects and roll the dice with Looney until Duda gets back. We made our bed with Walker and Cabrera so there is little to no chance they deviate from that path now. Yes our offense is mediocre, but there arent many obvious spots where you can upgrade.

That this might be the year to stay the course. Mets have the talent to play better. They need Thor Matz and Degrom to go on a run and they need to have a lineup that plays the best hitters.

If those two things happen, Mets can take the division or at least make the playoffs as a wildcard. SF Giants won the WS as a wildcard. If season ended today, Mets ARE the wildcard. So all they have to do is not lose ground

although the offense "shouldn't be as mediocre" as they have been. Conforto doesn't have "mediocre" upside" . Granderson was our MVP last year. Walker has been much better than he's shown this year in his career. Loney's been a fine placeholder but we need some scary thunder back in the middle of the lineup protecting Ces. We need Duda and we need the rest of the lineup to start playing up to the back of their baseball cards. That and a little luck to start going our way. We are still very high in hard hit % and our overall BABIP is low. This should start to average out more over the next couple months.

That our pen might actually be the strength of the team but it's the only really spot that makes sense to add an upgrade.

I want both games.

Anthony DiComo 2 minutes ago
#Mets are calling up Josh Smoker as their extra man for Game 2 of today's doubleheader. It would be his big league debut. Great story.

enough there was a Smoker feature just today. 31st overall pick in the 2007 draft
Link - ( New Window )

Mark Simon 2 minutes ago
Terry Collins said P Josh Smoker will be the 26th man for Game 2 "if he gets here."

Smoker has 67 K in 45 2/3 IP with Las Vegas this season

nthony DiComo 53 seconds ago
Josh Smoker's overall numbers at Las Vegas aren't pretty. But over his last seven appearances, he owns a 0.90 ERA with a 15/3 K/BB in 10 IP.

In Vegas this season. That's pretty damn impressive.

Anthony DiComo
ESPN has added Sunday, Sept. 4 #Mets-Nationals to its Sunday Night Baseball schedule. Tough for Mets, with a day game in CIN the next day.

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This is BS and since the league (owners) have no problem with it, the union should get involved

In comment 13045769 sphinx said:

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Anthony DiComo ESPN has added Sunday, Sept. 4 #Mets-Nationals to its Sunday Night Baseball schedule. Tough for Mets, with a day game in CIN the next day. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX This is BS and since the league (owners) have no problem with it, the union should get involved

Shit I have tix to this game and was going to drop off the kids with the grandparents.

#Mets Game 98 of 162, vs. STL:

Reyes 3B
Granderson RF
Cespedes LF
Loney 1B
Johnson 2B
Cabrera SS
Conforto CF
Rivera C
Syndergaard RHP

Cards had bases loaded 1 out and scored on a force error by Syndergaard

4 innings at this pace. Not good on a DH day with Colon pitching the back end.

on top 3rd

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has only reached the 7th inning 3 times in his last 10 starts and today will probably be out 11 starts.

RISP key at bat!

need a knock so bad right now.

can't afford shitty starts from Noah.

reeks

I don't know why we have to keep starting Johnson. He's a decent role player. Let him play a role.

as the #5 hitter and James Loney batting cleanup is not a contending lineup.

And that allows for the fact Loney has been much better than I expected.

than KJ

but Flores is our best 2nd baseman right now on roster

why can't Reyes score on that Cespedes double?

so Thor can finish the 5th inning

This pitch count is painful and how slow he is working makes it even worse

why Kelly Johnson is starting. Especially with Rivera in the lineup too. Seems like almost no room for error in these games when you start lineups like this.

Losing this game with Colon going tonight would not be good.

In comment 13046019 Metnut said:

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why Kelly Johnson is starting. Especially with Rivera in the lineup too. Seems like almost no room for error in these games when you start lineups like this. Losing this game with Colon going tonight would not be good.

and Verrett tomorrow. Redbirds might sweep

Terry regularly ran out some awful lineups. I wonder if it is his subtle way of trying to light a fire under Sandy by displaying how thin their bench is. Maybe he is sending the front office a message.

1-run game in the 5th inning. LGM.

In comment 13046026 steve in ky said:

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Terry regularly ran out some awful lineups. I wonder if it is his subtle way of trying to light a fire under Sandy by displaying how thin their bench is. Maybe he is sending the front office a message.

he's running out the guys he has ..... Willie Mays is not waiting on that bench

tying run on 1st, no out, Cespedes up.

See if he can walk it off.

In comment 13046115 pjcas18 said:

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tying run on 1st, no out, Cespedes up. See if he can walk it off.

of course not, unconventional double play.

Can't get a hit with runners in scoring position and stranding runners over and over and over again.

Even kept it to a 1 run game without using Reed or Familia. Robles, Blevins, Goeddel and Bastardo all did a really good job and we couldn't do shit offensively outside of a HR yet again.

This team is so frustrating. It seems impossible for them to continue to be this bad with RISP but it just never seems to get any better and it's almost August now. Maybe this is just what the Mets are. Ugh.

With a real crappy lineup

Go Flo!

but I just don't think the Mets are going to hit enough to make the playoffs this season.

and I hope Sandy doesn't feel pressured to make a move.

I'd roll with what they have or do minor tinkering with major league parts, not prospects other than guys I don't think fit long-term like Cecchini or even Nimmo. Starting to think Nimmo might be Kirk N part 2.

they do have the starting pitching to stay in the race, so you never know, I just wouldn't force anything (maybe it's the Kazmir scars still there).

7 HRs in April (23 RBIs)

8 in May (14 RBIs)

4 in June (9 RBIs)

2 in July, 0 since July 5 (10 RBIs)

to them not making it to the post season. We've seen too much evidence of them not being disciplined enough, focused enough or just plain good enough when it comes to doing the little things especially in big spots. I know there will be plenty of talk of injuries but any way you slice it they're just not getting it done and it's been beyond disappointing.

But I just had a bad feeling about this doubleheader all day. I'm in London And I left my phone at the hotel so I wouldn't ruin my night checking the score.

Let's win the second game!

And right in the WC mix.

But I keep waiting for this team to get hot and go on a bit of a run and they just continue to struggle hitting. I really thought that series against CHC before the break was it. Apparently not....

The Cardinals and even the Marlins are better than us this season. Our pitching is inconsistent and our hitting is nonexistent.

At least our competitors can lean on their hitting most of the time

De Aza still have a job?

He hasn't been dreadful. I know he has sucked for the most part but I honestly think if he played more regularly he'd be better. Some guys just can't play so sparingly and produce.

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they kick you in the balls on the way to the plate.

Cespedes cannot play every day to maintain his production

Sandy should tell TC he's fired if he puts out a lineup that doesn't have Flores in it. Don't care where, have him play every single IF spot.

this lineup is so weak need to maximize every shred of offense.

An average manager that I cant wait to see him gone

Matt Bowman on the mound for the Cards.

With Granderson with the bases loaded TC

You can only hope to contain him. Greatest signing in the history of any sports franchise.

I'd see if they have any interest in two months of Colon.

We dont even have a starter from AAA for Saturday.

Seth Lugo? Yuck. Montero wouldve been more intriguing

In comment 13046231 pjcas18 said:

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I'd see if they have any interest in two months of Colon.

We are too thin. We actually need another "Colon" IMO.

Gotta think that's a pretty big adjustment going from Thor to Colon in the same day.

Instead of being in the bullpen

blows the save, Indians tie it, 0 outs, winning run on 2nd

He may be better than Familia.

Mark Simon @msimonespn
Addison Reed has 20 K and 1 BB in his last 13 IP

In comment 13046254 pjcas18 said:

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blows the save, Indians tie it, 0 outs, winning run on 2nd

Bases loaded no outs for the indians.

Papelbon out. Rizzo must be calling the Yanks right now

Mets will moonwalk into the postseason again this year.

Nats are sweating now.

Time to trade for storen

In comment 13046265 spike said:

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Nats are sweating now. Time to trade for storen

This will make the Nats more desperate to trade for a big closer. lol. I smell OVERPAY! ;)

Sitting at the expensive seats behind home
Plate

are pure filth.

Great outing by Colon and RF!

Hope it continues with Logan tomorrow

and we'll be set up pretty nicely heading into trading deadline weekend.

100% the Mets will be trading for a good reliever.

60% the Mets will be trading for a good reliever and a filler back end starter.

20 % the Mets get a big bat.

Andrew Simon @AndrewSimonMLB
In his last two appearances, Jonathan Papelbon's ERA has gone from 2.56 to 4.45.

Could have easily won both games.

Plenty of games left to keep pace

In comment 13046281 ZGiants98 said:

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100% the Mets will be trading for a good reliever. 60% the Mets will be trading for a good reliever and a filler back end starter. 20 % the Mets get a big bat.

How bout just Jim Henderson returning to health?

In comment 13046290 spike said:

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In comment 13046281 ZGiants98 said: Quote: 100% the Mets will be trading for a good reliever. 60% the Mets will be trading for a good reliever and a filler back end starter. 20 % the Mets get a big bat. How bout just Jim Henderson returning to health?

Well, he pitched about 3-4 games in a row in Vegas with good results and then tweaked a hammy. He'll be back eventually. Still think Sandy brings in a vet. In fact, Id be shocked if he didn't.

In comment 13046288 spike said:

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Plenty of games left to keep pace

August 8th our schedule eases up some. Hopefully, Duda is close to back around that time.

Anthony DiComo Verified account
Jose Reyes went to the hospital for testing. He has a Grade 1 intercostal strain and is "out for a couple days," per Terry Collins.

In comment 13046297 sphinx said:

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Anthony DiComo Verified account Jose Reyes went to the hospital for testing. He has a Grade 1 intercostal strain and is "out for a couple days," per Terry Collins.

sounds like a DL stint. Time for Flores to get hot again!

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Nats are sweating now. Time to trade for storen

The Mariners announced tonight that they have acquired right-hander Drew Storen and cash considerations from the Blue Jays in exchange for right-hander Joaquin Benoit. Storen was designated for assignment by the Blue Jays over the weekend.

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In comment 13046297 sphinx said: Quote: Anthony DiComo Verified account Jose Reyes went to the hospital for testing. He has a Grade 1 intercostal strain and is "out for a couple days," per Terry Collins. sounds like a DL stint. Time for Flores to get hot again!

Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
The #Mets will bring Bartolo Colon back on short rest Saturday, rather than use a spot starter like Seth Lugo or Gabriel Ynoa.
10:50 PM - 26 Jul 2016

When Bartolo came up there were 4 man rotations. No es problema

and then removed tonight at the start. Trade??

In comment 13046312 ZGiants98 said:

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and then removed tonight at the start. Trade??

Reyes

didn't play because of a sore shoulder

In comment 13046284 ZGiants98 said:

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Could have easily won both games.

Think he would've been out by five steps.

but if the Mets were willing to absord the entire Joey Votto contract, what else would they need to offer Cinci to bring him to Citi Field?

He basically gets paid $22.5M until 2023. I doubt the Mets would want to take on the entire contract, but talk about adding some juice to the offense...

That runs til hes 40!

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That runs til hes 40!

Yea it's rough, maybe Reds would eat some of it?

Guy is the OBP king. Best overall year of his career was in 2015. Bad start to this year but absolutely on fire lately. Aside from 2014, when he was injured, can almost pencil him in for 6.0+ War each year.

I understand trade is unrealistic for many reasons, but if you want to maximize the Mets chances of winning a ring in the next three years, he'd really help.

Big win to get the split. The Nationals are in trouble with Papelbon and the Yankees keep winning so they may not even get to a point where they make Miller available. If they do, the price is going to be incredibly steep.

Hard to believe we're only 4.5 back right now.. the Nats really have missed some prime opportunities to run away with this thing. I love that we're still on their tails but we can't let up. We have to take advantage of the schedule we have coming up and go on a serious run.

Familia's sinker was as good as I've ever seen it last night. Absolute filth. And what else can you say about Reed? The guy has been incredible. 0.00 ERA in his last 13+ innings. Has like 20 K's and 1 BB in that span. He and Jeurys are one hell of a 1-2 punch right now and I love Robles as the 7th inning guy.

Gotta hit and score more runs, though. Was nice to see Droobie finally break that skid. And we really need to take this series. Hopefully the offense can get to Wainwright and Verrett can keep us in it.

but at this point it's hard to figure out what it's going to take for that to happen. The BP, like the first half of last year has been our team MVP. We get just enough SP and hitting, then they continue to not create self inflicted wounds. Glad the FO isn't taking them for granted though because there's a real risk of wearing these guys out, especially once the race gets tighter.

In comment 13046471 Metnut said:

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but if the Mets were willing to absord the entire Joey Votto contract, what else would they need to offer Cinci to bring him to Citi Field? He basically gets paid $22.5M until 2023. I doubt the Mets would want to take on the entire contract, but talk about adding some juice to the offense...

Wild prediction... I predict Votto is traded to the Blue Jays this off-season.

He will need a day off soon ..