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NFT: Mets Let's play two! Mets and Cardinals

ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 9:39 am
-Syndergaard Vs Carlos Martinez

-Colon VS Jaime Garcia

-Mets will need a spot starter Saturday due to the doubleheader

-Gilmartin to DL. Not an option

-Sandy says no big deals (1. This lets teams know we are not desperate. 2.) Prevents fans from being let down IMO)
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Sucks to have  
Metnut : 7/26/2016 9:55 am : link
spot-starter in front of sell-out crowd when Piazza's number gets retired but can't be helped here...
RE: Sucks to have  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 10:03 am : link
In comment 13045244 Metnut said:
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spot-starter in front of sell-out crowd when Piazza's number gets retired but can't be helped here...


+1
Any idea who it is going to be?  
Gmen1982 : 7/26/2016 10:27 am : link
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RE: Any idea who it is going to be?  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 10:30 am : link
In comment 13045285 Gmen1982 said:
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Lugo
I actually really do hope the Mets bring in "some"  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 10:45 am : link
back end starter. I keep mentioning Cashner but really we just need a body. We are getting dangerously thin. Lugo starting this Saturday(if he does) is a perfect example of this.
Kept hearing that Lucroy was a potential fit  
Rory : 7/26/2016 11:21 am : link
but not sure that he's a player that would put the Mets over the top.

I liked both of those RP's from the brewers wonder if there is life there.

I'm starting to lean in the direction that this is just not the year to go all in.

IMO Its all about Wheeler and Cesp
Why are  
Josh in the City : 7/26/2016 11:21 am : link
the Mets not trying to make a splash? Fiscal or baseball reasons?
RE: Why are  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 11:27 am : link
In comment 13045350 Josh in the City said:
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the Mets not trying to make a splash? Fiscal or baseball reasons?


There aren't really a lot of positions that make sense. They have a catcher who is hitting and a glut of players both in the outfield and infield. Unless benching guys like Conforto, Granderson, Reyes, act. sound like a good idea there isn't much we can do barring a trade for a true star and we aren't gutting our system for one. Trading for a TOR starter doesn't make a lot of sense either as we will still have a postseason rotation of Thor, deGrom, Matz, and Wheeler/Colon.
RE: Kept hearing that Lucroy was a potential fit  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 11:30 am : link
In comment 13045349 Rory said:
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but not sure that he's a player that would put the Mets over the top.

I liked both of those RP's from the brewers wonder if there is life there.

I'm starting to lean in the direction that this is just not the year to go all in.

IMO Its all about Wheeler and Cesp


Lucroy probably helps us a little but not if you are giving up big pieces. TDA's been over a wRC+ of 100 since he's been back (130s last year). Going from that to Lucroy's whopping 121 currently(111 career) certainly isn't transforming this team.
Definitely hard to see a quick fix  
Vanzetti : 7/26/2016 11:40 am : link
The problem with the Mets lineup is mediocrity across the board. There is nobody who "sucks" . Everyone is ok except maybe for Walker, who is in a deep slump.

I don't see Lucroy significantly out producing TDA the next two months--at least not enough to trade big prospects for him
I am the first one to scream from the rafters  
bhill410 : 7/26/2016 11:41 am : link
about how cheap the mets are. But I dont think their passive approach this trading deadline is the result of finances. Frankly, I think it was quite apparent from the jump of the season that we would not be getting reinforcements via the trade outside of a bench guy or a bull pen guy. We got lucky (assuming you like him) with reyes for free, and really could have gotten lucky if we opened up the wallets for a reasonable contract with Guriel. There arent any impact center fielders out there and they would rather hold onto prospects and roll the dice with Looney until Duda gets back. We made our bed with Walker and Cabrera so there is little to no chance they deviate from that path now. Yes our offense is mediocre, but there arent many obvious spots where you can upgrade.
I agree with Rory and others  
Vanzetti : 7/26/2016 11:47 am : link
That this might be the year to stay the course. Mets have the talent to play better. They need Thor Matz and Degrom to go on a run and they need to have a lineup that plays the best hitters.

If those two things happen, Mets can take the division or at least make the playoffs as a wildcard. SF Giants won the WS as a wildcard. If season ended today, Mets ARE the wildcard. So all they have to do is not lose ground
I agree with both of you  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 11:50 am : link
although the offense "shouldn't be as mediocre" as they have been. Conforto doesn't have "mediocre" upside" . Granderson was our MVP last year. Walker has been much better than he's shown this year in his career. Loney's been a fine placeholder but we need some scary thunder back in the middle of the lineup protecting Ces. We need Duda and we need the rest of the lineup to start playing up to the back of their baseball cards. That and a little luck to start going our way. We are still very high in hard hit % and our overall BABIP is low. This should start to average out more over the next couple months.
Kind of strange  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 11:58 am : link
That our pen might actually be the strength of the team but it's the only really spot that makes sense to add an upgrade.
Sweeping the double header today would be huge  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 12:04 pm : link
I want both games.
Josh Smoker  
sphinx : 7/26/2016 1:07 pm : link
Anthony DiComo 2 minutes ago
#Mets are calling up Josh Smoker as their extra man for Game 2 of today's doubleheader. It would be his big league debut. Great story.

Oddly  
DanMetroMan : 7/26/2016 1:15 pm : link
enough there was a Smoker feature just today. 31st overall pick in the 2007 draft
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sphinx : 7/26/2016 1:18 pm : link
Mark Simon 2 minutes ago
Terry Collins said P Josh Smoker will be the 26th man for Game 2 "if he gets here."

Smoker has 67 K in 45 2/3 IP with Las Vegas this season

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sphinx : 7/26/2016 1:53 pm : link
nthony DiComo 53 seconds ago
Josh Smoker's overall numbers at Las Vegas aren't pretty. But over his last seven appearances, he owns a 0.90 ERA with a 15/3 K/BB in 10 IP.

Smoker has a 2.88 FIP  
ZGiants98 : 7/26/2016 2:12 pm : link
In Vegas this season. That's pretty damn impressive.
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sphinx : 7/26/2016 2:54 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
ESPN has added Sunday, Sept. 4 #Mets-Nationals to its Sunday Night Baseball schedule. Tough for Mets, with a day game in CIN the next day.

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This is BS and since the league (owners) have no problem with it, the union should get involved

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spike : 7/26/2016 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13045769 sphinx said:
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Anthony DiComo
ESPN has added Sunday, Sept. 4 #Mets-Nationals to its Sunday Night Baseball schedule. Tough for Mets, with a day game in CIN the next day.

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This is BS and since the league (owners) have no problem with it, the union should get involved


Shit I have tix to this game and was going to drop off the kids with the grandparents.
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sphinx : 7/26/2016 3:21 pm : link
#Mets Game 98 of 162, vs. STL:

Reyes 3B
Granderson RF
Cespedes LF
Loney 1B
Johnson 2B
Cabrera SS
Conforto CF
Rivera C
Syndergaard RHP

Cards up 1-0 bot 2nd  
spike : 7/26/2016 4:55 pm : link
Cards had bases loaded 1 out and scored on a force error by Syndergaard
Thor might make it through about  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2016 4:57 pm : link
4 innings at this pace. Not good on a DH day with Colon pitching the back end.
52 pitchhes already  
spike : 7/26/2016 4:59 pm : link
on top 3rd
definitely not a good day for thor  
spike : 7/26/2016 5:02 pm : link
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Noah  
sphinx : 7/26/2016 5:08 pm : link
has only reached the 7th inning 3 times in his last 10 starts and today will probably be out 11 starts.

lets go Loney!  
spike : 7/26/2016 5:11 pm : link
RISP key at bat!
Bases Drunk  
Rob in Rockaway : 7/26/2016 5:14 pm : link
need a knock so bad right now.
This team  
Rflairr : 7/26/2016 5:14 pm : link
can't afford shitty starts from Noah.
Kelly johnson  
Rflairr : 7/26/2016 5:15 pm : link
reeks
Brutal AB  
Rob in Rockaway : 7/26/2016 5:15 pm : link
I don't know why we have to keep starting Johnson. He's a decent role player. Let him play a role.
Kelly Johnson  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2016 5:16 pm : link
as the #5 hitter and James Loney batting cleanup is not a contending lineup.

And that allows for the fact Loney has been much better than I expected.
must bat Conforto higher  
spike : 7/26/2016 5:17 pm : link
than KJ
sorry  
spike : 7/26/2016 5:18 pm : link
but Flores is our best 2nd baseman right now on roster
also  
spike : 7/26/2016 5:19 pm : link
why can't Reyes score on that Cespedes double?
plaese get a DP  
spike : 7/26/2016 5:27 pm : link
so Thor can finish the 5th inning
noah  
koty124 : 7/26/2016 5:29 pm : link
This pitch count is painful and how slow he is working makes it even worse
Don't understand  
Metnut : 7/26/2016 5:33 pm : link
why Kelly Johnson is starting. Especially with Rivera in the lineup too. Seems like almost no room for error in these games when you start lineups like this.

Losing this game with Colon going tonight would not be good.
RE: Don't understand  
spike : 7/26/2016 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13046019 Metnut said:
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why Kelly Johnson is starting. Especially with Rivera in the lineup too. Seems like almost no room for error in these games when you start lineups like this.

Losing this game with Colon going tonight would not be good.


and Verrett tomorrow. Redbirds might sweep
Last season as the trading deadline loomed closer  
steve in ky : 7/26/2016 5:39 pm : link
Terry regularly ran out some awful lineups. I wonder if it is his subtle way of trying to light a fire under Sandy by displaying how thin their bench is. Maybe he is sending the front office a message.

WTG Rivera...  
Metnut : 7/26/2016 5:51 pm : link
1-run game in the 5th inning. LGM.
RE: Last season as the trading deadline loomed closer  
Ron Johnson : 7/26/2016 6:29 pm : link
In comment 13046026 steve in ky said:
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Terry regularly ran out some awful lineups. I wonder if it is his subtle way of trying to light a fire under Sandy by displaying how thin their bench is. Maybe he is sending the front office a message.


he's running out the guys he has ..... Willie Mays is not waiting on that bench
Bottom 9  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2016 7:26 pm : link
tying run on 1st, no out, Cespedes up.

See if he can walk it off.
RE: Bottom 9  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2016 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13046115 pjcas18 said:
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tying run on 1st, no out, Cespedes up.

See if he can walk it off.


of course not, unconventional double play.
Same old story...  
arcarsenal : 7/26/2016 7:47 pm : link
Can't get a hit with runners in scoring position and stranding runners over and over and over again.

Even kept it to a 1 run game without using Reed or Familia. Robles, Blevins, Goeddel and Bastardo all did a really good job and we couldn't do shit offensively outside of a HR yet again.

This team is so frustrating. It seems impossible for them to continue to be this bad with RISP but it just never seems to get any better and it's almost August now. Maybe this is just what the Mets are. Ugh.
Must win  
spike : 7/26/2016 7:53 pm : link
With a real crappy lineup

Go Flo!
Hate to say it  
Rflairr : 7/26/2016 7:55 pm : link
but I just don't think the Mets are going to hit enough to make the playoffs this season.
Same here  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2016 8:00 pm : link
and I hope Sandy doesn't feel pressured to make a move.

I'd roll with what they have or do minor tinkering with major league parts, not prospects other than guys I don't think fit long-term like Cecchini or even Nimmo. Starting to think Nimmo might be Kirk N part 2.

they do have the starting pitching to stay in the race, so you never know, I just wouldn't force anything (maybe it's the Kazmir scars still there).
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