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NFT: Bought an Amazon Fire Stick...What Next?

Larry in Pencilvania : 7/26/2016 3:02 pm
I haven't signed up for Prime or Netflix yet. I have downloaded some of the available apps that come with it. What do you all recommend?


Thanks
Prime and Netflix  
NoPeanutz : 7/26/2016 3:06 pm : link
. You can also go deeper and get Hulu Plus, HBONOW/Go and Showtime's app.
Also, don't forget to cancel your cable.
And what's the best way to watch NFL games...  
Dunedin81 : 7/26/2016 3:06 pm : link
after cord-cutting.
apps are apps  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 3:08 pm : link
essentially duplicates of your phone or gaming device. I use mine for Netflix/HBO Go so I don't have to fire up the XBox all the time, but its essentially the same thing features wise. I do use Kodi on occasion.
RE: Prime and Netflix  
Larry in Pencilvania : 7/26/2016 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13045790 NoPeanutz said:
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. You can also go deeper and get Hulu Plus, HBONOW/Go and Showtime's app.
Also, don't forget to cancel your cable.


I actually don't pay for cable as my roommate has DTV for the Sunday Ticket. I'm looking to max out the quality of entertainment not cut the cord. That will be an option in the future
UConn and others  
Larry in Pencilvania : 7/26/2016 3:15 pm : link
I hear Kodi often but what is it and why do I need it? Speaking of apps is there a way to download apps that aren't shown like dailymotion?
install  
showmedaway : 7/26/2016 3:15 pm : link
Kodi!
RE: And what's the best way to watch NFL games...  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/26/2016 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13045791 Dunedin81 said:
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after cord-cutting.

Hook up an antenna.
RE: UConn and others  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/26/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13045810 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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I hear Kodi often but what is it and why do I need it? Speaking of apps is there a way to download apps that aren't shown like dailymotion?

Kodi allows you to access channels from overseas that are illegally broadcasting movies, TV and sports.
RE: RE: And what's the best way to watch NFL games...  
NoPeanutz : 7/26/2016 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13045813 Jim in Fairfax said:
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after cord-cutting.


Hook up an antenna.
This. If anybody is in the NY area by the way and wants to take my antennas off my hands, Im upgrading to an aerial so no longer need them.
RE: UConn and others  
NYG27 : 7/26/2016 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13045810 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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I hear Kodi often but what is it and why do I need it? Speaking of apps is there a way to download apps that aren't shown like dailymotion?


Kodi is an easy install for your Amazon Fire Stick and there are several YouTube videos that take you step by step on what you need to do.

As for what it is, Kodi itself is not illegal but installing it allows you install add-ons and channels that can get you illegal streams of movies, live sports and live TV channels.

It's really up to you if you want it or just stick with it's basic setup.
Firesticks confused me, too, until I took a class on how to use them.  
Klaatu : 7/26/2016 3:23 pm : link
We cut cable  
Randy in CT : 7/26/2016 3:54 pm : link
and purchased apple TV, already had Netflix and have had Amazon Prime for a while. We have one antenna upstairs but I'm trying to match which channels games are going to be on this season, with what channels I can access. I have a to experiment and get this project going.

Any other input from folks watching games after cutting cable?
All games in the local market are supposed to be broadcast  
NoPeanutz : 7/26/2016 4:00 pm : link
over the air. So if you're downstate NY or norther NJ, you should have no problem getting every single Giants game in HD. Not sure about CT though. If you get the NYC channels, you'll get every game.
RE: All games in the local market are supposed to be broadcast  
Randy in CT : 7/26/2016 4:01 pm : link
In comment 13045886 NoPeanutz said:
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over the air. So if you're downstate NY or norther NJ, you should have no problem getting every single Giants game in HD. Not sure about CT though. If you get the NYC channels, you'll get every game.
If you help me get the channels, I'll give you peanuts?
I bought a fire stick on Prime Day  
Bill L : 7/26/2016 4:03 pm : link
but I only have 2 tv and one already has the full Amazon Fire unit and the other has Apple tv. I got the fire stick because I heard, I think from amazon, that you can just plug it into a hotel tv and you're good to go. I tried doing that with the Fire unit and it wouldn't let me access the hotel wifi.

Will the fire stick really work on a hotel tv? Do I need to do anything special to set it up in different hotels? Can I just leave it in the box until I travel or do I need to do set-up at home before I go? It's shrink-wrapped right now.
for the Kodi folks  
Mighty : 7/26/2016 4:07 pm : link
I got a full fire tv and fire stick on primeday. Over the weekend i setup the fire stick and installed the Genesis, Exodus, and Phoenix add ons. They all seem to have pretty much the same things. What are some of the other addons that you guys have put on? One thing i noticed right away were the movies had chinese/japanese?? subtitles. Can i get english subtitles?

I have setup the full fire tv yet but what are the advantages of that over the firestick?
RE: for the Kodi folks  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13045906 Mighty said:
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I got a full fire tv and fire stick on primeday. Over the weekend i setup the fire stick and installed the Genesis, Exodus, and Phoenix add ons. They all seem to have pretty much the same things. What are some of the other addons that you guys have put on? One thing i noticed right away were the movies had chinese/japanese?? subtitles. Can i get english subtitles?

I have setup the full fire tv yet but what are the advantages of that over the firestick?


There's an add-on for subtitles which is in the kodi menus. You basically install that then whatever movie you are watching you can pull up a subtitle search and download the subtitles on the spot (takes 5 seconds). The subtitle files are named so you can match subtitles from a DVD with the DVD or vice versa with Blu Ray. They are rated as well so you know which work and which dont.

All in all it takes 2 minutes to set up, just google Kodi subtitles.
Bill L  
NYG27 : 7/26/2016 4:16 pm : link
Once your Firestick is setup with all your account information\passwords for Netflix, MLB.tv, HBO Go or what ever apps you want to access. After that you should be good to go.

It's just a matter of adding your hotel's WiFi and finding an open HDMI port on your room's TV.

Problems are some hotels have outdated TVs with either one HDMI port or none. Another problem is the hotel room remote for the TV does not have a feature to allow to the change the different modes on the TV like HDMI1, HDMI2 and so forth. I heard some people who travel alot bring their own universal remotes with them to program the TV and have access to those settings.

Another issue, some hotels put a ton of restrictions on their WiFi devices. Or the signal near your room is not close to one of their access points. Best way around that is to enable your smartphone with your carrier to allow you to connect devices to your phones WiFi.
,  
Danny Kanell : 7/26/2016 4:49 pm : link
I'd love to cut cable but this is all so fucking confusing.

I agree  
Larry in Pencilvania : 7/26/2016 5:18 pm : link
This is very confusing
Are there any setups that include Kodi installed that you can get?  
montanagiant : 7/26/2016 5:27 pm : link
Like an all-inclusive plug and go set up?
Danny and Larry  
NYG27 : 7/26/2016 5:45 pm : link
Let me simplify it for you guys....

Step One - Get high speed internet access. Base internet only packages cost around $35-90 depending on the higher speeds you want. Some companies will also charge you $10 per month to "rent" their router.

Step Two - Get a device that allows you to watch programming form the internet like the Amazon Fire Stick, Roku, Apple TV and many others. Newer smartTVs have this built in, so you won't need to buy a device.

Step Three - Decide on what Movies and TV content you actually want to pay for? Netflix for example is $10, Sling TV is $20. What is sling TV? It's a way to stream live TV legally, channels like ESPN, CNN and many more. You can get more channels like HBO and Cinemax if you add them on top of their basic $20 service. I've linked their site and pricing information below.

Step Four - Buy a HD antenna from a local Walmart or Target. This antenna will allow you to watch your local ABC, NBC, FOX, WB, CBS, PBS and many other channels your antenna picks up.

That's basically it for the basic step by step process on how to cut cable. Don't worry about Kodi or add-ons if you don't want to get too much into this topic and keep it simple.
Sling TV - ( New Window )
RE: Are there any setups that include Kodi installed that you can get?  
NYG27 : 7/26/2016 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13046015 montanagiant said:
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Like an all-inclusive plug and go set up?


Installing Kodi on the Amazon Fire Stick is pretty simple and easy.

Although if you don't want to mess around with the process, you could just do google search for them. I've linked a pretty basic one that is on sale from ebay below that already has Kodi installed. It costs only $23 and another $10 for shipping. Although this would be just the basic Kodi installed on the device, you would have to add the channels and Add-ons yourself.

The higher end models, that have all the illegal add-ons already pre-installed and with a nice keyboard remote control run closer to $80 to $100. You can google those to find them.
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Actually this one on ebay is better  
NYG27 : 7/26/2016 6:01 pm : link
It's just $25 and has free shipping. Also has Kodi and several add-ons like genesis and navi setup on it already.
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If you are a fan of live sports why cut the cord?  
RDJR : 7/26/2016 7:10 pm : link
Makes no sense at this point.
Tons of people sell firesticks  
UConn4523 : 7/26/2016 7:50 pm : link
on eBay with Kodi installed, it's $20 extra and it's worth it if you don't want the hassle.

I could never cut the cord. Between sports and channel surfing, I have no desire to wait for streams to load or browse through library content.
Fwiw  
Modus Operandi : 7/26/2016 9:03 pm : link
The Genesis app within kodi is dead and hasn't been updated. The new one made by the same people, lambda, is called Exodus. Google it on youtube. It's fairly easy to set up and get all the repositories going.

I haven't watched network TV in close to a year.
Thanks for the advice NYG27  
montanagiant : 7/26/2016 10:44 pm : link
I just ordered this one which comes fully programmed and is plug and play ready :
Matricom Android G-Box Q2
So Sling  
Randy in CT : 7/27/2016 8:58 am : link
is a nice option depending on your area?
RE: And what's the best way to watch NFL games...  
Vin R : 7/27/2016 9:00 am : link
In comment 13045791 Dunedin81 said:
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after cord-cutting.


HD antenna
Vin as I compare  
Randy in CT : 7/27/2016 9:09 am : link
which channels I'm picking up on my antenna with the Giants schedule/channels, I'm still not certain which games I'll get this way. I may try the Sling free 7 day trial which apparently ends 8/3
you guys using Kodi don't get crap from your ISPs over it?  
Heisenberg : 7/27/2016 9:53 am : link
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Next?  
Beezer : 7/27/2016 9:54 am : link

I recommend shoving your fire stick directly up your ass?

:)
doesn't all this stuff  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/27/2016 10:11 am : link
eat up internet service data allowances at an alarming rate leading to overcharges or using up the allowance before the end of the month thus blacking you out?

RE: doesn't all this stuff  
Randy in CT : 7/27/2016 10:27 am : link
In comment 13046608 gidiefor said:
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eat up internet service data allowances at an alarming rate leading to overcharges or using up the allowance before the end of the month thus blacking you out?
Doesn't everyone (most?) have internet plans which are unlimited? This isn't streaming off your phone or anything.
RE: Vin as I compare  
Vin R : 7/27/2016 10:30 am : link
In comment 13046458 Randy in CT said:
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which channels I'm picking up on my antenna with the Giants schedule/channels, I'm still not certain which games I'll get this way. I may try the Sling free 7 day trial which apparently ends 8/3


When I was living in Wallingford I canceled Comcast and bought an HD antenna for like $30 from Best Buy, I got all of the Giants games and watched whatever game was on MNF on my Apple TV
RE: Next?  
Vin R : 7/27/2016 10:31 am : link
In comment 13046552 Beezer said:
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I recommend shoving your fire stick directly up your ass?

:)


Directly.. or blast?
Larry's call.  
Beezer : 7/27/2016 10:58 am : link

I hear he likes all of it, Vin!
RE: RE: doesn't all this stuff  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/27/2016 11:01 am : link
In comment 13046659 Randy in CT said:
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eat up internet service data allowances at an alarming rate leading to overcharges or using up the allowance before the end of the month thus blacking you out?


Doesn't everyone (most?) have internet plans which are unlimited? This isn't streaming off your phone or anything.


I don't
RE: RE: doesn't all this stuff  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/27/2016 12:53 pm : link
In comment 13046659 Randy in CT said:
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eat up internet service data allowances at an alarming rate leading to overcharges or using up the allowance before the end of the month thus blacking you out?


Doesn't everyone (most?) have internet plans which are unlimited? This isn't streaming off your phone or anything.

If you dig into the terms of your service agreement with your cable company, you'll almost certainly find that you do not have unlimited internet. Most don't call attention to it and only enforce for those who egregiously surpass the limit. But companies are beginning to take limits more seriously as cord cutting accelerates.
What are the benefits and drawbacks of  
Larry in Pencilvania : 7/28/2016 3:13 pm : link
Prime vs Netflix
Buncha thieves.  
GiantFilthy : 7/28/2016 3:16 pm : link
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RE: What are the benefits and drawbacks of  
UConn4523 : 7/28/2016 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13048691 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Prime vs Netflix


The only redeeming quality of Prime is 2 day shipping on Amazon. I think its a terrible streaming service and doesn't have a fraction of the content Netflix does.
RE: RE: What are the benefits and drawbacks of  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/28/2016 8:04 pm : link
In comment 13048704 UConn4523 said:
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The only redeeming quality of Prime is 2 day shipping on Amazon. I think its a terrible streaming service and doesn't have a fraction of the content Netflix does.

That's a vast overstatement. The service itself is excellent, functionally speaking. And it has a lot of very good content, including original programs. It is certainly correct to say that Netflix is significantly superior to Prime in terms of the overall breadth and quality of their available programming. So based solely on video offerings, Netflix is an easy choice.

The value in Prime is the whole package: the free express shipping benefits, the shopping discounts, the music streaming, free kindle library, etc. Bought for the video alone, it's not a good value.
Is there a list of programming for these  
Larry in Pencilvania : 7/28/2016 9:55 pm : link
Services?
Jim  
UConn4523 : 7/28/2016 10:28 pm : link
I respectfully disagree. The movie selection is terrible and the original content is just starting out and has years to go before it's even in the same ballpark, possibly more. I already alluded to the whole package with the big selling point of it being free for people who use it for shipping, primarily.

And Netflix is like $12 a month, IMO it's incredibly cheap for what you get. That's 4 coffees a month. Netflix would need to triple in price to get me to think about another streaming service.
RE: Is there a list of programming for these  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/29/2016 12:18 am : link
In comment 13049118 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Services?

There are a few places you can find them. Here's a link to one website that you can view what's available to stream on various services.
JustWatch - ( New Window )
Trying out the 7 day  
Randy in CT : 7/29/2016 9:01 am : link
trial for Sling. So far, not the easiest browsing but certainly access to decent channels. Not sure if it solves my football watching issues.
RE: Jim  
Larry in Pencilvania : 7/29/2016 11:15 am : link
In comment 13049135 UConn4523 said:
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I respectfully disagree. The movie selection is terrible and the original content is just starting out and has years to go before it's even in the same ballpark, possibly more. I already alluded to the whole package with the big selling point of it being free for people who use it for shipping, primarily.

And Netflix is like $12 a month, IMO it's incredibly cheap for what you get. That's 4 coffees a month. Netflix would need to triple in price to get me to think about another streaming service.


Uconn...where do you get coffee? From the feedback I'm going to sign up for Netflix and skip prime as I don't but much stuff through Amazon and I have music through Spotify
haha  
UConn4523 : 7/29/2016 11:31 am : link
well, maybe 5 coffees. The good stuff in Stamford is $3 even per cup and its worth it. Otherwise $2 gets you shit from Dunkin Donuts.

All these services you can cancel so there's really no wrong route to take. If you have to pick one and only one, I can't see not going with Netflix if its content you are after. If you use Amazon a lot and really need 2 day shipping, then maybe you can see Prime as an added bonus (I personally don't, just not enough as of yet).

I would stay away from Hulu though, complete garbage. They came in to pitch to my company earlier this year and they are building out their own network, apparently. Haven't had any updates since they came in, but i guess it isn't going so well otherwise we would have.
RE: RE: All games in the local market are supposed to be broadcast  
River Mike : 7/29/2016 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13045890 Randy in CT said:
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over the air. So if you're downstate NY or norther NJ, you should have no problem getting every single Giants game in HD. Not sure about CT though. If you get the NYC channels, you'll get every game.

If you help me get the channels, I'll give you peanuts?


If there's a Giants game you can't get, c'mon up my house
RE: RE: RE: All games in the local market are supposed to be broadcast  
Randy in CT : 7/29/2016 1:09 pm : link
In comment 13049597 River Mike said:
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over the air. So if you're downstate NY or norther NJ, you should have no problem getting every single Giants game in HD. Not sure about CT though. If you get the NYC channels, you'll get every game.

If you help me get the channels, I'll give you peanuts?



If there's a Giants game you can't get, c'mon up my house
Thanks, Mike--appreciate it!
I haven't had any issues with my ISP yet  
Modus Operandi : 7/29/2016 1:16 pm : link
And we use Kodi pretty much every day.
RE: I haven't had any issues with my ISP yet  
montanagiant : 7/29/2016 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13049614 Modus Operandi said:
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And we use Kodi pretty much every day.

I get the machine i ordered today with it pre-loaded, may have some questions for you if that is ok?
Course  
Modus Operandi : 7/29/2016 2:03 pm : link
Shoot me an email at Rshlyakh@aim.com.
RE: Course  
montanagiant : 7/29/2016 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13049679 Modus Operandi said:
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Shoot me an email at Rshlyakh@aim.com.

Got it, very easy to plug in and set up. Added Exodus as an app and am currently watching the new tarzan movie. Should have done this months ago

Any other app suggestions?
I cut the cable back in December  
Bramton1 : 7/29/2016 3:40 pm : link
Only time I miss it was when Monmouth University men's basketball was on ESPN and the sports streams weren't any good.

I have Netflix, Hulu, and Prime. We added HBO Now for a few months while Game of Thrones was on, but we'll cancel before the next monthly renewal date.

Also have Kodi, but don't use it extensively. I was worried about getting in trouble, so I got a deal for IPVanish for $45 for a year. However, all the streams Kodi accesses are just streams, no torrents. So you're not distributing like with torrents, so the risk falls on the site hosting the stream.
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