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According to Newsweek most criminals have CTE.........

Dry Lightning : 7/26/2016 10:22 pm
Fascinating article. Says a huge percentage of the inmates have CTE. Even OJ Simpson has it. Instead of being pathological sociopaths, greedy pieces of shit, lowdown junkies, and psychotic maniacs- they are simply afflicted with this terrible disease. Now the scam the lawyers have used to destroy the NFL is going to be used to take prisoners out of where they belong, behind bars. Who is stupid enough to fall for this shit........oh I forgot, this is BBI. Once again, people knew head trauma caused injuries from boxing over a hundred years ago. Will Smith didn't discover it, nor did that fraud he played in that moronic movie.
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christian : 7/26/2016 10:30 pm : link
You tell em. No way a brain injury could ever contribute to someone's brain not working right. That would be ridiculous.
I don't know about all this, it has some merit to it  
SGMen : 7/26/2016 10:30 pm : link
I do know that about 60% of recividism (2 or more time offenders) in prison, well, there is a correlation between their mothers drinking during pregnancy and a smaller frontal lobe. Brain scans prove this out and there is really no physical medical treatment to "fix" the issue.

I was knocked cold during an Army Airborne operation when I was about 19. For over a week my head was hazy and I was in a mild vertigo like state. Has it carried over and caused me issues? Maybe.
I can't with this CTE  
ThatLimerickGuy : 7/26/2016 10:51 pm : link
Yes head injuries fuck you up. It is wise to make life choices that decrease the risk of head injuries so as to not get fucked up. This isn't a breakthrough. Your great great grandfather's great great grandfather knew this.

Feel bad for someone who gets scrambled from a terrible accident not someone who failed to exercise common sense and engaged in a sport or activity which basically revolves around using your head as a point of contact repeatedly.
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christian : 7/26/2016 11:08 pm : link
So just to be clear, if someone gets hurt playing football you can't feel bad for them, and if it happens to be a brain injury and impacts their brain, that's not possible.
Yeah, football players are like smokers.  
manh george : 7/26/2016 11:51 pm : link
Exposed to a massive conspiracy of lies, they believed the damned lies. Shame on them.
Does sporting a Dallas Cowboys logo  
Giants2012 : 7/26/2016 11:59 pm : link
cause CTE b/c a lot of evidence suggests criminal activity.

they don't make the claim that most criminals have CTE  
chris r : 7/27/2016 12:07 am : link
why did you make that up?
How many people in the total population  
madgiantscow009 : 7/27/2016 12:19 am : link
have CTE? Everybody has been hit before.
I'm not surprised  
Montreal Man : 7/27/2016 1:23 am : link
Many, many years ago I read a New Yorker article about two psychologists
who did intensive interviews with a large sample of death row inmates. They gave them the full monty -- mir, cat scans, x-rays, medical records from childhood, you name it. And they discovered that almost all of them suffered from some kind of brain injury, either from being dropped as a kid, pounded in the head for some reason or sustaining a number of (I think) frontal lobe disturbances.

I don't think this is a coincidence and points to the sad truth that some people can't control their impulses because of brain injury or brain chemistry.

I had been a big proponent of the death penalty until I read this piece and subsequent stories about D.A.'s making their bones on the afflictions of such people, the tampering of evidence by some police forces or totally inadequate legal representation.

Add to that the burden of serious brain injury and we have a tragic confluence of negative factors that damage the perps and, of course, their victims.

I don't know what one can do about this, but it's a cause worth pursuing.
RE: I'm not surprised  
SGMen : 7/27/2016 1:45 am : link
In comment 13046333 Montreal Man said:
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Many, many years ago I read a New Yorker article about two psychologists
who did intensive interviews with a large sample of death row inmates. They gave them the full monty -- mir, cat scans, x-rays, medical records from childhood, you name it. And they discovered that almost all of them suffered from some kind of brain injury, either from being dropped as a kid, pounded in the head for some reason or sustaining a number of (I think) frontal lobe disturbances.

I don't think this is a coincidence and points to the sad truth that some people can't control their impulses because of brain injury or brain chemistry.

I had been a big proponent of the death penalty until I read this piece and subsequent stories about D.A.'s making their bones on the afflictions of such people, the tampering of evidence by some police forces or totally inadequate legal representation.

Add to that the burden of serious brain injury and we have a tragic confluence of negative factors that damage the perps and, of course, their victims.

I don't know what one can do about this, but it's a cause worth pursuing.
"Psychiatrists are the only MD's that often don't look at the organ they are treating - the brain." I think within 10 years much of the stigma of "mental health" will be removed and more and more folks will be treated medically and not by the judicial system which helps really no one.

SGMEN  
Montreal Man : 7/27/2016 2:02 am : link
Amen.
RE: I'm not surprised  
madgiantscow009 : 7/27/2016 2:12 am : link
In comment 13046333 Montreal Man said:
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I don't think this is a coincidence and points to the sad truth that some people can't control their impulses because of brain injury or brain chemistry.


the brain injury part is interesting about its effects to brain chemistry, but brain chemistry itself dictates everything everyone does.
that sounds like a premise for a future legal defense  
Gross Blau Oberst : 7/27/2016 7:08 am : link
I can't be held accountable for my actions because I have CTE.

Well, since there is now way to test for CTE  
Emil : 7/27/2016 7:15 am : link
When someone is alive, this article sounds like quite a bit of theory being printed as fact.

Perhaps it is true, but there is no way to know if current incarcerated criminals have CTE or not.
RE: that sounds like a premise for a future legal defense  
Beer Man : 7/27/2016 7:18 am : link
In comment 13046367 Gross Blau Oberst said:
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I can't be held accountable for my actions because I have CTE.
I was thinking just the opposite. It will be like the movie 'Minority Report' where we lock people up before they commit a crime.
Those poor inmates  
ZogZerg : 7/27/2016 7:19 am : link
you should feel sorry for them when they are raping your mother, killing your family members, and stealing from you.
ONE MORE DAY BEFORE THE GIANTS REPORT TO CAMP!  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/27/2016 7:26 am : link
Just saying...
What is the percentage...  
BamaBlue : 7/27/2016 8:32 am : link
of ALL people with CTE? The percentage of prison population with CTE is only relevant if you know the percentage in the general population. I can't believe this correlation hasn't been brought up in the discussion about brain injury...
RE: I'm not surprised  
chuckydee9 : 7/27/2016 8:34 am : link
In comment 13046333 Montreal Man said:
Quote:
Many, many years ago I read a New Yorker article about two psychologists
who did intensive interviews with a large sample of death row inmates. They gave them the full monty -- mir, cat scans, x-rays, medical records from childhood, you name it. And they discovered that almost all of them suffered from some kind of brain injury, either from being dropped as a kid, pounded in the head for some reason or sustaining a number of (I think) frontal lobe disturbances.

I don't think this is a coincidence and points to the sad truth that some people can't control their impulses because of brain injury or brain chemistry.

I had been a big proponent of the death penalty until I read this piece and subsequent stories about D.A.'s making their bones on the afflictions of such people, the tampering of evidence by some police forces or totally inadequate legal representation.

Add to that the burden of serious brain injury and we have a tragic confluence of negative factors that damage the perps and, of course, their victims.

I don't know what one can do about this, but it's a cause worth pursuing.


I agree with most your other points for not exercising the death penalty. I am a big supporter of having the death penalty but rarely ever using it.. However the disease factor doesn't play for me. if the disease is not curable then there is no real reason for someone who has done a heinous crime to live.. I don't think of it as punishment but rather from a society perspective there is no need for someone who cannot participate in a society and cannot be rehabilitated..
I thought you can only diagnose CTE by looking at the brain at autopsy  
Bill L : 7/27/2016 8:38 am : link
Can you do it to a living person? Other wise, how can you say anything about OJ Simpson or any other living criminal?
Excellent. It's always good to have  
rebel yell : 7/27/2016 8:45 am : link
a documented medical diagnosis before you go out and slaughter innocent humans. I feel better about this already.
Did anyone  
Rob in CT/NYC : 7/27/2016 9:21 am : link
actually read the article? I mean, I get that it was a lot of words, but....
Speaking of llcriminals  
Big Al : 7/27/2016 9:34 am : link
P
:Breaking news  
Big Al : 7/27/2016 9:35 am : link
John Hinckley to be freed.
RE: Does sporting a Dallas Cowboys logo  
mrvax : 7/27/2016 10:32 am : link
In comment 13046321 Giants2012 said:
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cause CTE b/c a lot of evidence suggests criminal activity.


Think about this: when someone gets hit hard in the head what do they momentarily see? Yup. Stars. There's your answer.
Bamablue  
mikeygiants : 7/27/2016 10:32 am : link
Gorgens’s team found that inmates had a brain injury rate of 96 percent; the rate for the general population is just 6 percent.
Thanks Mikey...  
BamaBlue : 7/27/2016 10:46 am : link
that delta between the general population and inmates indicates there statistical significance.
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