Tell fanatic Cowboys' fanboy we are dying to hear more from him and Dallas Nation about how their draft "steal" Gregory is going to tear up our franchise LT Flowers bwahaha.
I did not like his loss of self composure and how it reflected on him, the team, the coach and the Giants as an organization. He should have been pulled from the game after the second flare up, long before the attempted head ramming. Norman got inside his head and Odell lost self control and retaliated for whatever provoked him.
I do not appreciate Odell's off field style at all - same with other flamboyant players. I guess it is a cultural and age gap thing. But I don't care for it at all and have less respect for the person with that behavior. Simple truth. Some won't like that open honesty, but, there it is.
I will cheer for him on the field and appreciate his physical talents. But his flamboyant arrogance I can do without.
on from the like/dislike childlike threads...pretty juvenile. The big question is if he is going to use his talent in a "team oriented" manner and win football games to present opportunities to capture championships. Right now he is just a talented guy who can't control himself in games. Let's see the maturity and professional behavior this season and less of the little bitch and kid antics...yeah he's young, time to grow up. Guess he has to if he wants to get paid.
Needs to admittedly tone his ego down. And keep his yap closed.
He should study Jerry rice's off field demeanor and style if he wants to be like him.
And yes Odell behaved badly against Carolina. That was beyond self defense.
I do think sir Charles got this one right.......
BUT, I don't see a guy like Owens or Moss here. Not yet at least. He's not criminal. He's not hurting his team for the most part. He's famous and he's tabloid fodder.
is a little too self-promoting and needs to mature.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
these threads are so damn lame. It's so damn funny how alike even grown assed adults are like teenage girls and bored housewives they complain about with regards to how the lives and actions of celebrities have even a sliver of impact on their lives.
OBJ has put up numbers and production level unseen by any players in their first two years. He (along with Eli) has basically been the only thing worth much on this team. Yes, he's had a few moments that are forgettable on the field but none off the field, yet all these grown adults complain about his lifestyle like how teenage girls complain about their favorite popstars. Grow up, girls.
showboating has invited headhunting before and he has been affected by it. He went whacky in Carolina, but he brings it on himself.
I was already hoping Coughlin was going to be replaced, but that game was a pathetic show of a head coach and I liked him a lot less after. it was already obvious about Odell prior to that game
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on from the like/dislike childlike threads...pretty juvenile. The big question is if he is going to use his talent in a "team oriented" manner and win football games to present opportunities to capture championships. Right now he is just a talented guy who can't control himself in games. Let's see the maturity and professional behavior this season and less of the little bitch and kid antics...yeah he's young, time to grow up. Guess he has to if he wants to get paid.
Other than the meltdown against Carolina, please tell me about the other games in which OBJ couldn't control himself? Please tell me about all of the other times he showed a lack of maturity and professional behavior? Please tell me about the other times he acted like a little bitch and put his kid antics on display?
Personally, I don't care what he does in the offseason as long as he doesn't break the law. He's a bona fide celebrity in an age where celebrity can come way too easily, but as long as he continues to produce on the field he can go full-on "Instant Face" for all I care.
As a fan make your choice you're not picking strawberries.
I don't like his hair, I don't like some of his comments.
I WOULD HATE HIM IF HE CHANGED BECAUSE OF MY OR YOUR COMMENTS!!!
OD..as the saying goes about these negative commentors..."F--k'em and feed 'em beans" Just do your thing and play. The coaches will aim you in the right direction....on the filed!
for his actions in the Carolina game, but the more than came out about the Panthers wielding a bat on the field pregame and having one of their practice squad players taunting the Giants while they were doing warmups, and then the general dickiness Norman showed the entire year and I became less angry at Odell and more bewildered at how the league allowed the Panthers to bring a bat on the field for multiple games last year.
No doubt Odell needs to mature, but that game was the perfect storm of having ridiculous taunts, the defender opposite you body slam you on the 2nd play of the game, and playing an undefeated team.
Who is remembered more fondly, Jerry Rice or Randy Moss?
Yes I believe in the responsibility of a Pro Athlete, a role model, etc to be better than that. We expect it from our military, our policemen/policewomen, etc and they don't have the fame or the money that pro athletes do.
It may just be his kryptonite. Norman can't compete with him physically so he got in his head. It's sad that is part of the game but it is. It could very well be the one thing that stops him from being the best ever. Can OBJ mature out of it?
All that being said there is no reason he can't fix this. It can very easily be looked back on as immaturity. OBJ vs Norman twice a year will be interesting to watch and will hopefully do great things for both of their career. If OBJ can fix that part of his game, which I believe is his biggest hurdle, he could be the best ever and Norman would end up an afterthought.
is a little too self-promoting and needs to mature.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
Nice overreaction, football is a team sport, the guys more concerned with themselves over the team, ala the Carolina game don't win!
Who is remembered more fondly, Jerry Rice or Randy Moss?
Yes I believe in the responsibility of a Pro Athlete, a role model, etc to be better than that. We expect it from our military, our policemen/policewomen, etc and they don't have the fame or the money that pro athletes do.
It may just be his kryptonite. Norman can't compete with him physically so he got in his head. It's sad that is part of the game but it is. It could very well be the one thing that stops him from being the best ever. Can OBJ mature out of it?
All that being said there is no reason he can't fix this. It can very easily be looked back on as immaturity. OBJ vs Norman twice a year will be interesting to watch and will hopefully do great things for both of their career. If OBJ can fix that part of his game, which I believe is his biggest hurdle, he could be the best ever and Norman would end up an afterthought.
I respected Rice, but felt like Moss was a more physically gifted player.
He is a young player who was fighting back, I admit he lost it, and I would have benched him, but I guess I'd rather have him fight back than just take it and become invisible. To me it showed that he wants to win bad, and considers himself the best. His ego got the best of him, but ego is what sets players apart. To sulk away and take it would have sent an equally bad signal, almost a defeatist thing.
He learned his lesson and won't do it again. At lest the experience happened in a meaningless game. This year he will just bear down quietly and burn Norma's butt.
I think the competitive nature of OBJ got the better of him. I think he'll mature this year and if we have Cruz around, he'll also be a positive impact on him, as well. The refs won't let that escalate again this year. It will be interesting to see how the Washington contests go down this year. OBJ needs to learn how to keep Norman's hands off of him, because he's also a grabber. I think OBJ will let his play speak for him this year. We'll see how mature he is after the first game with him, win or lose.
Yes I believe in the responsibility of a Pro Athlete, a role model, etc to be better than that. We expect it from our military, our policemen/policewomen, etc and they don't have the fame or the money that pro athletes do.
is a little too self-promoting and needs to mature.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
Nice overreaction, football is a team sport, the guys more concerned with themselves over the team, ala the Carolina game don't win!
Sure thing, bro. Because he was the cause of the Carolina loss and the other losses. Do you even watch our games?
I felt like that game specifically was a time where better coaching would have taken him out of the game and taught him a lesson. He didn't get that coaching, but I think it would have avoided a lot of the "get off my lawn" stuff he's had to deal with. and it could have helped avoid the suspension.
I had no dislike of Coughlin, but I cannot imagine, even remotely, Belichick or Parcells (for example) not noticing that feud escalating and removing the player for a few plays.
Anyway, my affinity is toward more firey emotional players. It's part of the reason I liked LT so much and why I loved guys like Armstead, Shockey, Jacobs, Rolle, etc.
is a little too self-promoting and needs to mature.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
Nice overreaction, football is a team sport, the guys more concerned with themselves over the team, ala the Carolina game don't win!
Haha come on bro! The guy was practically in tears when he thought the team quit during that Carolina game. He may be flamboyant and a little immature, but for fucks sake, he obviously cares a TON about winning and losing. He's all heart and busts his tail for himself and the team. Stop questioning that.
What kind of Giant fan dislikes this guy? Are you guys crazy!!?
Here's a quote from Odell in article about his camp Â
“I wanted to do one back home [in New Orleans] as well, but this is my first one so New York’s gonna be my home for a long time, so I felt like might as well start here and then go back home,’’ Beckham said. “Kinda see how this went and obviously it turned out great, so looking forward to doing many more.’’
Sounds to me like a guy who loves his team and city.
I felt like that game specifically was a time where better coaching would have taken him out of the game and taught him a lesson. He didn't get that coaching, but I think it would have avoided a lot of the "get off my lawn" stuff he's had to deal with. and it could have helped avoid the suspension.
I had no dislike of Coughlin, but I cannot imagine, even remotely, Belichick or Parcells (for example) not noticing that feud escalating and removing the player for a few plays.
Anyway, my affinity is toward more firey emotional players. It's part of the reason I liked LT so much and why I loved guys like Armstead, Shockey, Jacobs, Rolle, etc.
I think Coughlin helped seal his fate that day. A guy who claims to be in complete control claims not to have known that his best player is losing it to the point that he can't make plays or focus on the game. Time to go Tom.
but as a fan I defended him and still do. He was goaded the entire game, pre-game the other team had practice players on the field with baseball bats talking shit, and they effectively got into his head.
It was a big learning day for OBJ.
I doubt it happens again.
Yuuuuuuuge TC fan here and he didn't do his job that day, step in, take OBJ out and talk to him/bench him.
wasn't a good day for anyone, especially OBJ. OBJ lost it and our disciplinarian coach didn't do his job, and I'm not even going to get into the refs.
And oh how the years make people forget things. Jerry Rice was known to be selfish and pretty immature himself on the field, so I'm not sure where this idea that he was the consummate professional comes from. To use him as an example of what OBJ should be, come on now.
As far as people talking about his off the field life, who gives a flying fuck how he lives his life as long as he's a law abiding citizen, who is there for the team on game days?
He needs to grow up a little but he's hardly worn any act thin....
That wasn't an act in the sense you mean. It was an act of self-defense.
From a rehab clinic.
I don t know The kid other than as a player for the team I root for. In that Arena the total picture has been much more good than bad.
Your post has a lot in common with today s talking heads. Create an invalid story line then spen time trying to discuss it as if it s balid
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
I do not appreciate Odell's off field style at all - same with other flamboyant players. I guess it is a cultural and age gap thing. But I don't care for it at all and have less respect for the person with that behavior. Simple truth. Some won't like that open honesty, but, there it is.
I will cheer for him on the field and appreciate his physical talents. But his flamboyant arrogance I can do without.
GO GIANTS.
He has time to change my mind, lets see how he handles himself facing this guy twice this year.
I'm just not sure about Odell at this point, can he conduct himself like an adult NFL player? Or is he going to be a bipolar diva...
this. I wish he'd just shut up and play.
He should study Jerry rice's off field demeanor and style if he wants to be like him.
And yes Odell behaved badly against Carolina. That was beyond self defense.
I do think sir Charles got this one right.......
BUT, I don't see a guy like Owens or Moss here. Not yet at least. He's not criminal. He's not hurting his team for the most part. He's famous and he's tabloid fodder.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
OBJ has put up numbers and production level unseen by any players in their first two years. He (along with Eli) has basically been the only thing worth much on this team. Yes, he's had a few moments that are forgettable on the field but none off the field, yet all these grown adults complain about his lifestyle like how teenage girls complain about their favorite popstars. Grow up, girls.
I was already hoping Coughlin was going to be replaced, but that game was a pathetic show of a head coach and I liked him a lot less after. it was already obvious about Odell prior to that game
He needs to clean up SOME onfield stuff that could cost us, but he's a talent I can easily root for
"I don't like the way he lives his life because I don't live like that..."
Just think about that line of thinking...bahahaha...talk about lame.
Other than the meltdown against Carolina, please tell me about the other games in which OBJ couldn't control himself? Please tell me about all of the other times he showed a lack of maturity and professional behavior? Please tell me about the other times he acted like a little bitch and put his kid antics on display?
Personally, I don't care what he does in the offseason as long as he doesn't break the law. He's a bona fide celebrity in an age where celebrity can come way too easily, but as long as he continues to produce on the field he can go full-on "Instant Face" for all I care.
This is his package!
Balls to the wall, putting it all out there.
As a fan make your choice you're not picking strawberries.
I don't like his hair, I don't like some of his comments.
I WOULD HATE HIM IF HE CHANGED BECAUSE OF MY OR YOUR COMMENTS!!!
OD..as the saying goes about these negative commentors..."F--k'em and feed 'em beans" Just do your thing and play. The coaches will aim you in the right direction....on the filed!
Where it counts.
No doubt Odell needs to mature, but that game was the perfect storm of having ridiculous taunts, the defender opposite you body slam you on the 2nd play of the game, and playing an undefeated team.
Yes I believe in the responsibility of a Pro Athlete, a role model, etc to be better than that. We expect it from our military, our policemen/policewomen, etc and they don't have the fame or the money that pro athletes do.
It may just be his kryptonite. Norman can't compete with him physically so he got in his head. It's sad that is part of the game but it is. It could very well be the one thing that stops him from being the best ever. Can OBJ mature out of it?
All that being said there is no reason he can't fix this. It can very easily be looked back on as immaturity. OBJ vs Norman twice a year will be interesting to watch and will hopefully do great things for both of their career. If OBJ can fix that part of his game, which I believe is his biggest hurdle, he could be the best ever and Norman would end up an afterthought.
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is a little too self-promoting and needs to mature.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
Nice overreaction, football is a team sport, the guys more concerned with themselves over the team, ala the Carolina game don't win!
Yes I believe in the responsibility of a Pro Athlete, a role model, etc to be better than that. We expect it from our military, our policemen/policewomen, etc and they don't have the fame or the money that pro athletes do.
It may just be his kryptonite. Norman can't compete with him physically so he got in his head. It's sad that is part of the game but it is. It could very well be the one thing that stops him from being the best ever. Can OBJ mature out of it?
All that being said there is no reason he can't fix this. It can very easily be looked back on as immaturity. OBJ vs Norman twice a year will be interesting to watch and will hopefully do great things for both of their career. If OBJ can fix that part of his game, which I believe is his biggest hurdle, he could be the best ever and Norman would end up an afterthought.
I respected Rice, but felt like Moss was a more physically gifted player.
Rather face Rice than Moss in their primes.
Point?
Setting aside the Carolina game, give me another on-field example of OBJ putting himself above the team?
The only thing I regret is that he was a small figure (due to the Carolina meltdown) in the train of thought that led to Coughlin's firing.
He learned his lesson and won't do it again. At lest the experience happened in a meaningless game. This year he will just bear down quietly and burn Norma's butt.
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is a little too self-promoting and needs to mature.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
Nice overreaction, football is a team sport, the guys more concerned with themselves over the team, ala the Carolina game don't win!
Sure thing, bro. Because he was the cause of the Carolina loss and the other losses. Do you even watch our games?
He talked about that guy once in the interview and had been pretty quiet about it. Not sure where he kept talking about him.
I had no dislike of Coughlin, but I cannot imagine, even remotely, Belichick or Parcells (for example) not noticing that feud escalating and removing the player for a few plays.
Anyway, my affinity is toward more firey emotional players. It's part of the reason I liked LT so much and why I loved guys like Armstead, Shockey, Jacobs, Rolle, etc.
The list of players who put themselves above the team but still win is pretty long, including Josh Norman last year.
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is a little too self-promoting and needs to mature.
Self-defense c'mon, I mean norman started it and the refs didn't help but he tried to take the guy's head off!
OMG! A celebrity professional athlete is too self-promoting? Oh no! How dare he try to continue to brand himself to reap the benefit of his popularity.
Nice overreaction, football is a team sport, the guys more concerned with themselves over the team, ala the Carolina game don't win!
Haha come on bro! The guy was practically in tears when he thought the team quit during that Carolina game. He may be flamboyant and a little immature, but for fucks sake, he obviously cares a TON about winning and losing. He's all heart and busts his tail for himself and the team. Stop questioning that.
What kind of Giant fan dislikes this guy? Are you guys crazy!!?
“I wanted to do one back home [in New Orleans] as well, but this is my first one so New York’s gonna be my home for a long time, so I felt like might as well start here and then go back home,’’ Beckham said. “Kinda see how this went and obviously it turned out great, so looking forward to doing many more.’’
Sounds to me like a guy who loves his team and city.
I had no dislike of Coughlin, but I cannot imagine, even remotely, Belichick or Parcells (for example) not noticing that feud escalating and removing the player for a few plays.
Anyway, my affinity is toward more firey emotional players. It's part of the reason I liked LT so much and why I loved guys like Armstead, Shockey, Jacobs, Rolle, etc.
I think Coughlin helped seal his fate that day. A guy who claims to be in complete control claims not to have known that his best player is losing it to the point that he can't make plays or focus on the game. Time to go Tom.
It was a big learning day for OBJ.
I doubt it happens again.
Yuuuuuuuge TC fan here and he didn't do his job that day, step in, take OBJ out and talk to him/bench him.
And oh how the years make people forget things. Jerry Rice was known to be selfish and pretty immature himself on the field, so I'm not sure where this idea that he was the consummate professional comes from. To use him as an example of what OBJ should be, come on now.
As far as people talking about his off the field life, who gives a flying fuck how he lives his life as long as he's a law abiding citizen, who is there for the team on game days?